RE: Trouble child OpenOffice

2017-04-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Andy Wenk [mailto:andyw...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 14:26 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Trouble child OpenOffice > > Hi Raphael, > > this is really sad to hear. The gap between so many users and a > vanishing community

RE: Vetoes for New Committers??

2017-03-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Marvin Humphrey [mailto:mar...@rectangular.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 05:13 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Vetoes for New Committers?? > [ ... ] > > Most PMCs do not draft their own rules, and just use "at least 3 +1 > with no

RE: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think, if you look at the DRAT diagrams that Chris Mattmann provided up-thread, there is another factor that can figure into the someone asking the original question. If someone, especially a student or recent-graduate, has skills in a particular development and language approach, and is

RE: What happened to the Apache Labs

2017-01-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapa...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 13:01 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: What happened to the to the Apache Labs > > Hi all > > I looked at the apache Labs from time to time, and I see nearly no >

RE: ASF Committers Diversity Survey in Progress

2016-11-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
My one concern was providing credentials to a non-Apache site. Should I be worried about that? (I just changed my Apache password just in case.) - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Sharan Foga [mailto:sha...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 03:19 > To:

RE: Task #5c18cd0e: Create Twitter list of all projects

2016-08-16 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm not certain what I am responding to here. Can we see what is on the list now and what information is being asked for? Meanwhile, there is . - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Alexander Bezzubov [mailto:b...@apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 16,

RE: Where to report outdated "Welcome to ASF" email template?

2016-08-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
> -Original Message- > From: Alexandre Rafalovitch [mailto:arafa...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 20:48 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Where to report outdated "Welcome to ASF" email template? > > Hello, > > I just got accepted as a committer to an ASF project

RE: Unsubscribe trailers

2016-06-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Tail-gating on this so I mention it somewhere at least. One problem that I have noticed, and I don't know how systematic it is, is that when a post uses HTML formatting, the list robot may not provide the trailer in a form that actually has it be visible to a recipient. This has led, in the

RE: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

2016-05-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Sharan, You might find useful resources and contacts via as well. - Dennis > -Original Message- > From: Sharan Foga [mailto:sharan.f...@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 03:45 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Encouraging More Women to

RE: Help Wanted! (it's a title, not a request!)

2016-02-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
e > system build tools to consult on selecting one? > > OpenOffice actually have an expert at hand. LibreOffice (fork of > OpenOffice) has changed the build system into something quite handy > (even though still complex). > > rgds > jan i. > > > > > > &

RE: Help Wanted! (it's a title, not a request!)

2016-02-08 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I appreciate Ross's concern. I have a companion one. Bottom line, I would be very discouraged if manual use were excluded. - Dennis RELATED THOUGHTS The greatest source of issues and concerns and also some interest in how to help for Apache OpenOffice is end-users and some inexperienced

RE: Help Wanted! (it's a title, not a request!)

2016-02-07 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
+1, +1, etc. Apache OpenOffice is overflowing with opportunities to make use of this. I did not notice a way to indicate that a task has been "taken" or is completed/withdrawn. (I could have missed it.) I assume a potential GSoC mini-project could be identified in the title or short

RE: Guiding volunteers

2016-02-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
In the case of GSoC mentoring, one needed change is to add the search case http://s.apache.org/gsoc2016tasks or maybe a generic http://s.apache.org/gsoctasks. Then the Guide to being a mentor can be updated to match that and not continue to mention "gsoc2011". This requires adding a public

RE: Thanks for AOO

2015-12-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The PDF is filed at . > -Original Message- > From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 04:45 > To: dev@community.apache.org > Subject: Re: Thanks for AOO > > Attachment must have gotten stripped off > > > On Dec 4, 2015, at

FW: Question relating to a problem in Open Office

2015-11-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Soundaram, I have forwarded your message to dev@ openoffice.apache.org where you may find better responss. The remedy is to find the lock file in the same folder as the document that was open at the time of interruption. It will have a similar name to the one that was open. Delete that

RE: ACEU Presentation Template - OWN GOAL

2015-09-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
the least that is basically useful). - Dennis -Original Message----- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 09:18 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: ACEU Presentation Template Truly back at the same venue? <http://events.linuxfoundation.org/eve

RE: Grace Hopper talk

2015-09-17 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think Grace Hopper would have thought open-source development to be great. She had a serious populist streak that would have resonated. I'm not so certain she would admire a certain lack of discipline, but we might never know. She was not into complexification at all. This reminds me

RE: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?

2015-08-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[Failing at dealing with this cross-posted and variously-branched discussion on two lists, so I am doing it too. Also OT with respect to Ross's declaration, but it has to do with the fact that release is not so well distinguished as one might hope.] Minor nit? #1: Generally, because of what

Blank list messages (was RE: moderators?)

2015-06-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Ross, as I have mentioned to you off-list, I receive blank emails from you and a few others on certain @apache lists. I think this is a discrepancy in how HTML-formatted emails manage to get from one client to another and I suspect that it probably relates to protocol discrepancies involving

RE: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
In more-formal arrangements, do-overs must be initiated by someone whose vote was on the prevailing side of the previous deliberation. This is a way to avoid constant reconsideration in what is more like an adversarial procedure. The local government where I live is in a state of perpetual

RE: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-24 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think it is great that there are all of these views on the importance of consensus and how that ties to the nurturing of community and harmony toward a common purpose. I wouldn't even hang around ASF, after having grasped what little of that as I have, if it was not the case. And it is

RE: Veto! Veto?

2015-03-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think we should not confuse consensus with unanimity, because a -1 need not cure to a +1. The procedures are more nuanced than that, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making, and there are many ways a cooperating participant can express their concern. I do notice that there

RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch

2015-03-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. Hamilton Cc: dev@community.apache.org; 'Melissa Warnkin' Subject: RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch On Sat, 21 Mar 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I have extracted the three background images from the ACEU14 presentation. They are not possible to morph. They are JPEGs

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

2015-03-22 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Thanks Nick, those are great! I consider the problem solved. In anticipation of the next AC-anywhere, I want to help turn this (and the previous two under Linux Foundation) into a form that can be repurposed/reused/customized along with information on how to do it and the resources/skills

RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch

2015-03-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
rather fail now, though I have no great Plan B. And I love Nick's feather image. - Dennis PS: Hey, you know that simple change you wanted? It turned to be extremely simple and it is all done now. -- No software developer, ever. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton

RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch

2015-03-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-25T01:44Z) I am simply going to default on this. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 12:11 To: dev@community.apache.org Cc: 'Melissa Warnkin'; 'Nick Burch' Subject: RE: ACNA Presentation Template - Crunch

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

2015-03-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
:00 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] And this one is from ACEU 2014, http://people.apache.org/~nick/NickTemplateACEU14.odp [ ... ]

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

2015-03-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@community.apache.org; 'Melissa Warnkin' Subject: Re: ACNA Presentation Template On 03/19/2015 01:16 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Jeepers, OK, I put the request on dev-openoffice and there were no bites. Somebody, send the last one to me and I will see what I can do with it. It would help to know what

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

2015-03-19 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Just for calibration, my interpretation of the request was to update an existing previous-conference presentation template to reflect the new venue and dates for ACNA 2015. I was not expecting a big job. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil

RE: ACNA Presentation Template

2015-03-18 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Jeepers, OK, I put the request on dev-openoffice and there were no bites. Somebody, send the last one to me and I will see what I can do with it. It would help to know what is particularly liked about the last one so I don't muck it up. I figure this gives me OSCON 2015 booth-bunny pole

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
-- replying below to -- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 3, 2015 01:12 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed On Monday, February 2, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: [ ... ] Ross: Hey, you know you are

RE: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
. The opportunity to gradually organize and reconcile the dataflows into something that is possibly more coherent and direct, without throwing big switches anywhere, is even more inspiration for +1. -- Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430

RE: Proposing for Apache Member?

2014-07-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
? -- Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org+1-206-779-9430 https://keybase.io/orcmid PGP F96E 89FF D456 628A X.509 used and required for signed e-mail PS: Since it is rare, in practice, for me to make a direct commit to any project, my being a committer works out to be more about

RE: Apache@ OSCON question

2014-06-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Historically, Expo Hall passes are free. OSCON charges a $25 fee that should be pre-registered for. My sense of this is that it is simply meant to discourage walk-ins that are not in the target audience of the conference and the expo sponsors. The info is in the last entry at

RE: New Committer Orientation

2014-01-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
The only lists shown to me on that subscription page are committers-cvs concom infrastructure jobs site-cvs in category Foundation lists. Is that what is meant by your follow-up on the whimsy.../subscribe function? -Original Message- From:

RE: Some clarification needed for Apache Extra projects - Apache Extra in specific

2012-09-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Luciano's account identifies a clean, bright line between Apache Extras and any Apache project. One point of clarification, however, since I see this statement repeatedly. It is clear that an Apache Extras project should not *deliver* packages or components on any org.apache.xxx...

RE: Some clarification needed for Apache Extra projects - Apache Extra in specific

2012-09-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@opendirective.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 13:56 To: Dennis Hamilton; dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: Some clarification needed for Apache Extra projects - Apache Extra in specific Sent from my tablet On Sep 27, 2012 9:51 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote

RE: Can the one proposing a vote cast his vote?

2012-06-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
@Herbert In general, anyone should recuse themselves from voting or simply not vote if there is concern for (perception of) conflict of interest of any sort. There is no reason for someone calling a vote not to vote. It happens in governments and it happens in standard structures for

RE: Apache Extras Question

2011-12-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think this situation is very clear-cut. The only two ways an Apache namespace should show up in an Apache Extras project is (1) for something of Apache that the project depends on: an external dependency, and (2) for a conforming implementation of a type that is defined by an Apache

RE: Teams and Leads - where leadership lives (sermonette warning)

2011-06-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
found it educational, I hope you appreciate it too. Ross -- Forwarded message -- From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org Date: 16 June 2011 19:27 Subject: RE: Teams and Leads - where leadership lives (sermonette warning) To: ooo-...@incubator.apache.org I think we

RE: Apache project guidelines docs += independence?

2011-06-01 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
In the proposed Committers page, http://community.staging.apache.org/committers/index.html, 1. There must be a better title than New Committer Handling. I think Assessing New Committers would be better. Anything would be better. 2. In the last paragraph on Project Independence, The goal is