RE: How to host a successful Apache Meetup?

2014-09-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ConCom used to be the home for this kind of thing. It moved to ComDev when ConCom was disbanded. ComDev are yet to define how this support, this is a good thing as ConCom became a controlling influence that often stifled the energy behind local meetups. On thus list there are plenty of people

RE: [ApacheCon] Fallback keynote for Budapest

2014-09-24 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
As I mentioned to you in private I can reach out to UK government CTO if you want an eGovernment replacement (would likely result in the same outcome as going to Wardley) Sent from my Windows Phone From: jan imailto:j...@apache.org Sent: ‎9/‎24/‎2014 8:06 AM To:

RE: ApacheCon Austin keynotes

2014-09-24 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org (you need to send it from the subscribed email address, if that is difficult the help message you get in response will guide you) -Original Message- From: Mark Brodsky [mailto:rktsm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 12:53 PM To:

RE: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and project health reporting)

2014-10-15 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Note, we have recently been discussing how OfBiz can help with management of the fundraising activities. Melissa (our EA) is in contract with the project. It seems to me that this would be the simplest starting point (and isn't public facing, so less of a design overhead). Other than that, as

RE: The ASF and Apache OFBiz (was: Re: ASF Status website and project health reporting)

2014-10-15 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Note, we have recently been discussing how OfBiz can help with management of the fundraising activities. Melissa (our EA) is in contract with the project

RE: Consideration to Create GitHub Mirrors for Apache Extras Project

2014-10-26 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sorry here's the mail I meant to send... We are evaluating options around Apache-extras at present. I'd note that its nit the tools that create communities, its the people within. It could be argued that GitHub is the default place for folks to search but other than that the location is mostly

RE: (improving) New Committers Info

2014-11-25 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
A couple of years ago I had the same concerns. I got pushback on messing with the TLD pages (perhaps more accurately there were so many strong opinions it wasn't worth the argument, plus the task is daunting to say the least). Instead I started trying to create signposts into our dense TLD

RE: Content tracks at ApacheCon Austin

2014-11-26 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Rich, As per your blog at https://blogs.apache.org/conferences/entry/apachecon_north_america_returns_to please sign me up. I don't want to do a project specific track, I'm more interested in a cloud track. I want to create a coherent track in which each session, whilst being valuable as a

RE: [PROPOSAL] Move out release schedule by ~1 month going forward

2014-12-01 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Moving dev@community.apache.org to BCC so as not to create unnecessary traffic (I assume it was a mistake having it in the To line) Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Leif Hedstrom [mailto:zw...@apache.org] Sent: Monday,

RE: ApacheCon Austin content committee deadlines

2014-12-09 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
It's absolutely my intention to manage the track I have signed up for independently of all other tracks. It is entirely possible that I will want a talk that others have identified for their tracks. We can resolve those issues when CFP has closed. Ross -Original Message- From: jan i

RE: ApacheCon track descriptions

2014-12-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
send a few email and gauge the interest. If there's enough (which I assume to be the case), I'll volunteer. Cheers, Hadrian On 12/12/2014 04:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: If you arrange it, yes :-) Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

RE: ApacheCon Austin keynotes (and other stuff)

2014-12-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
How about Jono Bacon. He's got the open source creds but his new gig at XPrize is a fascinating demonstration that what we do here in open source is akin to the processes needed to create huge innovation leaps. If we were to pair that with some bigwig at a research org then we can do the full

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
If LF want to do it they can. It's their conference. I totally agree that we should not be a part of it. We discussed this when negotiation the contract. Buying sessions is not on the cards. However, my point is not about sales pitches or bought slots. Mine is about taking it too far. People

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
We should not explore anything. It's an LF responsibility. (I know I said this about 5 times in quick succession, sorry. I just want to make sure we don't start becoming ConCom. ApacheCon has been outsourced to LF) Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On 02/04/2015 11:21 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Sally is not part of the ACNA process. Nobody in the ASF is. This is an LF event. We can

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sally is not part of the ACNA process. Nobody in the ASF is. This is an LF event. We can (and should) make recommendations to LF but we are are not to take on responsibility for these things. That takes us back to where we were with ConCom. Sent from my Windows Phone

RE: [Proposal] Creation of Apache Zest Provisional TLP

2015-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Dropping board to BCC. Note that: If ComDev is going to host this stuff, then ComDev should have the say in what the actual requirements are. Absolutely! And right now I'm personally volunteering my cycles to help with that within the ComDev framework. Is exactly the kind of

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: I never intended to say that we should not take responsibility for content. I intended to say LF should take responsibility for defining the theme of the conference they want to market and we *help

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
@community.apache.org Subject: Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Sally the volunteer can do what she wants Sally the contractor has no responsibility for ApacheCon We are *not* responsible (by contract

RE: Why the Apachecon (was Re: ApacheCon NA CFP closed)

2015-02-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I attended Nicks sessions in Budapest - they were *excellent*. Using them as a model for Austin is to be recommended. Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Hadrian Zbarcea [mailto:hzbar...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-02 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
(work which just started today). All that said, I believe in general we should look for ways to motivate our projects a lot more to participate (not only with talks, but also getting people to come). just my opinion rgds jan i. On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH

RE: Contributing to Apache

2015-02-02 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
See http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html for I fo on GSoC and Sent from my Windows Phone From: Subham Sonimailto:subham.soni...@gmail.com Sent: ‎2/‎2/‎2015 12:43 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Contributing to Apache

RE: Contributing to Apache

2015-02-02 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
been announced. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com Sent: ‎2/‎2/‎2015 7:56 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: Contributing to Apache See http://community.apache.org

RE: Is there a wiki space for comdev?

2015-02-05 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I don't believe there is (certainly shouldn't be) a restriction on wiki access. That said as a PMC member I was completely unaware there is a ComDev wiki. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Bertrand Delacretazmailto:bdelacre...@apache.org Sent: ‎2/‎5/‎2015 1:05 AM

RE: ApacheCon Austin Reviewing

2015-02-05 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Allowing everyone to rate every session will always result in an average of accept. I recommend the individual track leads make a judgement call. They can consult with any experts they feel they should We want great content, not averaged content. The model we use in GSoC works well (the

RE: ApacheCon NA CFP closed

2015-02-03 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
). just my opinion rgds jan i. On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Great job Rich, and those who helped. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Rich Bowenmailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com Sent: ‎2/‎2/‎2015 12:19

RE: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-15 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Where are you seeing discouragement of pilot projects? Any volunteer can step up and deliver any pilot for the foundation on a voluntary basis. We are set up to do that. However, if a service stood up by a volunteer becomes a core part of the ASF then that must be maintained in an ongoing

RE: New ComDev VM

2015-01-15 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
edit you do will generate an email with the new project data and send it to dev@community.a.o, as a review measure. I hope this will make it easier for people to jump in and help with creating the site :) With regards, Daniel. On 2015-01-14 18:53, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Daniel

RE: New ComDev VM

2015-01-15 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
the site :) With regards, Daniel. On 2015-01-14 18:53, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Daniel, There is no assuming just do it :-) You have a number of ComDev PMC members saying +1, and you are a PMC member yourself. Let's have the code where we can start working on it and let's

RE: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s?

2015-01-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
) to access and contribute to ASF mailing lists. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 07:29 To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: Mailinglists - a tool from the 90s? For me any alternative

RE: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Having read the while thread, to date, I find I have nothing to add other than a hearty +1 Sent from my Windows Phone From: Daniel Grunomailto:humbed...@apache.org Sent: ‎1/‎14/‎2015 3:48 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject:

RE: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
This requires that infra maintain a running instance of OfBiz and that any ComDev member who wants to help out needs to learn OfBiz. Have you consulted with infra? Can ComDev members be expected to learn OfBiz in order to make a small tweak? It seems to me that whilst the extra functionality

RE: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal On 14 Jan 2015, at 10:36, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: As I said when you originally raised this I would recommend focusing on a committee that tracks other data, data that is not currently well structured. Trademarks, media

RE: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: This requires that infra maintain a running instance of OfBiz and that any ComDev member who wants to help out needs to learn OfBiz. Have you consulted with infra? Can ComDev members be expected to learn OfBiz

RE: projects.apache.org overhaul proposal

2015-01-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Daniel, There is no assuming just do it :-) You have a number of ComDev PMC members saying +1, and you are a PMC member yourself. Let's have the code where we can start working on it and let's get it to feature parity with projects.apache.org ASAP. I agree with Rich that there is value in

RE: Mailing lists, sites, ...

2015-01-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
There are many reasons why the ASF requires projects to use its own servers for some items. For example, we couldn't use GitHub until we had built a system that would provide adequate traceability of contributions. Failure to do that would have meant it was no longer possible to provide the

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I agree Joe, We only have a very few immutable rules. Everything else is policy. As long as policy don't break those immutable rules the they can shift and change as much as they need to in order to empower individual project communities. Coincidentally I wrote a presentation on this very

RE: Knowing which talks are already claimed by another ApacheCon track?

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Yep. I've added some such comments, but got frustrated with the only CFP so am now working in a spreadsheet you can't see (sorry). If you see my name in a owning comment drop me a mail and we can talk about which track it fits best. Sent from my Windows Phone

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
[mailto:seb...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 9:50 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Way talks On 16 February 2015 at 16:51, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: I think that's exactly it. If we write policy down it becomes a rule. Huh? Written

RE: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track. I'm putting together a larger group of cloud tracks and trying to weave a narrative through the whole thing. This includes containers. The good news is you and I mostly agree on the valuable container related talks are. I'll

RE: Knowing which talks are already claimed by another ApacheCon track?

2015-02-16 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
It's probably best we start an online doc somewhere... Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 12:29 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Knowing which

RE: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers

2015-02-17 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
] Proposed tracks Community + Containers On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 02:01 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track. I'm putting together a larger group of cloud tracks and trying to weave a narrative through the whole thing. This includes

RE: [ApacheCon] Big Data track?

2015-02-17 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:35 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Big Data track? On 02/17/2015 02:29 PM, Joe Brockmeier wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: I'll do this as part of my

RE: [ApacheCon] Big Data track?

2015-02-17 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
? Also when I might see your draft track? Thanks. On 02/17/2015 01:13 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: I'll do this as part of my Cloud tracks (see why I chose such a broad term ;-) Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From

Re: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers

2015-02-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track. I'm putting together a larger group of cloud tracks and trying to weave a narrative through the whole thing. This includes containers. The good news is you and I mostly agree on the valuable

RE: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers

2015-02-18 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon NA 2015] Proposed tracks Community + Containers On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 02:01 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Thanks Joe, if you don't mind I'd like to hold on the container track. I'm putting together a larger

RE: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
form a big part of ACNA, we really need a higher number of wait-listed tasks. just for info, adding the row# from the spreadsheet, helps the postprocess work. rgds jan i On Thursday, February 19, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Formatting is screwy, here's

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Re pushing out to PMCs. Historically this has not been a good idea. Once you have 200+ PMCs and PPMCs fighting over 200+ slots you get a horribly disjointed program with no real value. This is one reason why I want LF to set the theme. We can then create a smaller list of PMCs that fit the

RE: DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
cloud based VMs to build community -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 7:52 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: DevOps tracks Damn wrapping messed up again, here's a readable version (removed

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I just added 4 sessions. There is one more for the community track if Joe wants it (not in CFP). So there is space for a 6 session track from Hadrian. Sent from my Windows Phone From: jan imailto:j...@apache.org Sent: ‎2/‎19/‎2015 7:59 AM To:

RE: DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Zero to Test Driven Infrastructure Workflow in Six Hours Using cloud based VMs to build community -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 6:15 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: DevOps tracks Rich

RE: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks

2015-02-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Subject: Re: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks What happened with the container track? I don't see that reflected in the Cloud track. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015, at 12:23 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: I've put together three tracks (if there is space), if not then we can talk about which ones

RE: ApacheCon Poster Session?

2015-01-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Are you willing to organize this? I've never been much of a fan of poster sessions at conferences, but others will strongly disagree with me, I'm sure. It might be a good idea to have these in the hackathon space. Where folks from the involved projects are present they could locate themselves

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
talks On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new and we probably should still schedule them. However, I think we ought to do some new stuff along the lines of: How is the ASF different from other foundations? Why

RE: Apache Way talks

2015-02-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sent: ‎2/‎14/‎2015 9:48 AM To: dev@community.apache.orgmailto:dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Way talks On 14-02-2015, at 11:47, Nick Burch n...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new

RE: ApacheCon North America 2015 Call For Papers

2015-01-05 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
You can submit at any level you want. The conference tends to have very technical folk as well as some more general decision maker folks. We particularly like sessions that tell the story of how Apache software has improved things for you and your company in some way. This could be a case

RE: [IDEA] ASF Certifications

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 to What Rich says Community managed examinations are unlikely to be adequately maintained. However, someone making a living out of it whilst also respecting our marks helps to grow the community. We should leave that space open for people with the time and skills. Ross Microsoft Open

RE: DevOps tracks

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
LGTM Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 1:19 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: DevOps tracks On 02/19/2015 08:54 AM, jan i wrote: Hold on

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
need that by Sunday if possible. Thanks. On 02/19/2015 03:54 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Yep, I'll get it ASAP and share here. Ross -Original Message- From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:j...@zonker.net] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:48 PM To: dev@community.apache.org

RE: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources

2015-03-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 to lazy consensus - this is a reversible step -Original Message- From: Ulrich Stärk [mailto:u...@spielviel.de] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 10:08 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: commit rights to ComDev non-community.a.o site resources Actually I just realized how dumb

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-09 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
in the characterization, however) On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: I said the ASF not Apache Foo. I do agree with your observation with respect to Apache Foo. Any project which fails to recognize merit of any sort should reconsider

RE: GitHub Pages

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Is it really necessary for our web pages to be served from Apache hardware? If so, why? I understand why we want to control the canonical source, but do we really need to own web server? A concern, for me, would be if hosting on GitHub Pages meant that we could not easily switch to another

RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 On 03/11/2015 03:05 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with some colleagues in a number of other companies

RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I can give you a content one for mobile (Cordova) as I just confirmed that a colleague here will be at ApacheCon to organize a tooling BoF on Cordova with some colleagues in a number of other companies (Adobe currently being confirmed). I'll get an abstract out of him to consider along with any

Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2)

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
of Universal App enabler. During this session we will demonstrate what Universal App means in the context of Cordova. We will look at tooling that can be used to deliver on the Cordova vision of Universal App (and Cross Platform) paradigm. -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH

RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2

2015-03-11 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@rcbowen.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:46 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Re: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2 On 03/11/2015 04:53 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Oh, that was my case study session. That's not so easy to replace. I do have

RE: [VOTE] Replace projects.apache.org with projects-new.apache.org

2015-03-06 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
+1 Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: Rich Bowen [mailto:rbo...@redhat.com] Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 8:53 AM To: dev Subject: [VOTE] Replace projects.apache.org with projects-new.apache.org I'd like for us to go ahead and

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I'm -1 on using Apache Foo in a job title. It great confusion between the paid role and the community role. The community role is not attached to a paid role. It is connected to the individual. I see no reason why individuals can't also use ASF titles where appropriate. I see no problem with a

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Subject: Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow? On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: I'm -1 on using Apache Foo in a job title. It great confusion between the paid role and the community role

Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Given what Joe said is exactly what I said I really object to this confrontational approach. To your specific question, if someone is speaking *for* a project then they can only do so with the permission of the project (being a PMC member or committer does not automatically bestow that

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Who said we allow it for engineers? My position is the same for any community member no matter what they do. It is all over LI

Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
...@gnsa.us wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Who said we allow it for engineers? My position is the same for any community member no matter what they do

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-08 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
@community.apache.org Subject: Re: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow? On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Who said

RE: What's the ideal job title for somebody who is payed to help ASF communities grow?

2015-03-09 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
grow? Ideally and aspirationally, that is true. Practically speaking, definitely not true. On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Once again, the ASF makes no distinction between code and other contributions. Sent from Windows Mail

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
, no news since then. Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:40, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Moving board@ to BCC I am *not* working on it. I have no idea who said I was (I do hope it wasn't me!) All I know is that Jim, David and Roberto are working on it, I don't know how actively but it is now a priority. I believe

Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. We need to create a replacement for Apache-extras. Can we please make sure that progress on this is reported in the ComDev board report each quarter. I suggest the starting point should be to expand discussions with

RE: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Sally we could weave this into the diversity angle, as a reminder I intend to use the state of the feather to acknowledge that we have mostly failed to move the needle on diversity in our community, that very little works (GSoC is a good example of something that does work), accept we don’t

RE: ASF accepted as a mentoring organization for Google Summer of Code 2015

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I’m around until the end of next week Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation From: Sally Khudairi [mailto:sallykhuda...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 1:15 PM To: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH); dev@community.apache.org Cc: Sally Khudairi; pr

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: Ahhh... I see no that's just code for I don't have time, but these folks have shown interest ;-) I'm happy to help make sure we hit this deadline, but I'm not driving it. Ross -Original Message

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
This has nothing to do with the AOO downloads, it only affects apache-extras. As far as I'm aware AOO downloads have been fine for a very long time - has that changed? Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation -Original Message- From: jan i

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
facilitate the move (and hence our involvement thus far). On Thursday, March 12, 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: It seems there is confusion over who owns the decision. Happy for it to be ComDev if you are happy from infra perspective. Ross Microsoft

RE: Google Code shutting down Jan 2016

2015-03-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
in October David asked for feedback on a proof of concept, no news since then. Can you shed some light on who is driving this atm? Cheers, Uli On 2015-03-12 21:22, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: Today Google announced that Google Code will be shutting down Jan 25, 2016. We need

RE: Groovy: Great news ! Willing to help.

2015-03-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
At this point you should make your interest known on the existing Groovy lists. The project has not yet made a proposal to the incubator, I'm sure they could use help with that. Alternatively wait until the proposal hits gene...@incubator.apache.org and get involved there. Sent from my

RE: GitLab?

2015-03-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
An excellent thought, but every service adds overhead on the infra team. If there were enough projects demanding it I guess we would find a way of providing it. So how many projects demand it? Do infra feel that that is enough? What if infra provided VMs and PMCs managed the instances

RE: Cloud, Big Data and DevOps tracks

2015-02-25 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
are more represented than those that didn't. On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: I covered that in a separate mail. In the end I left your track untouched. I've recorded it in the spreadsheet as a container track for you. Ross

RE: ApacheCon Schedule

2015-02-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
trying to not be outsmarted by his Shetland sheepdog while watching British panel quiz shows. -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 12:51 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: RE: ApacheCon Schedule I can't comment on the time (I haven't

RE: Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2)

2015-03-19 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Decision on the below? -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:21 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Proposed Cordova replacement session (was RE: [ApacheCon] Scheduling help, pass 2) Here's

RE: GitLab?

2015-03-06 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Trials lead to services that need to be maintained. No trial unless we know we can maintain it. For that to happen someone needs to come up with a full proposal for the infra team to evaluate with clear justification for the approach and clarity on how ASF budgets would need to scale to

RE: Dump of entire asf repo

2015-01-13 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
I'm changing the recipient list to our infrastructure team who can better advise on this. Ross -Original Message- From: Baruch Burstein [mailto:bmburst...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 12:50 PM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: Dump of entire asf repo Hi all, I was

RE: Presentations about Apache Software Foundation

2015-04-02 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html for updated stats see https://projects-new.apache.org/ (will eventually be projects.apache.org) -Original Message- From: Krzysztof Sobkowiak [mailto:krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 1:16 PM To:

RE: Presentations about Apache Software Foundation

2015-04-03 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
exactly the Apache License mean for slides? How can the Apache licensed slides be reused? Regards Krzysztof On 02.04.2015 23:42, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: You need to look for license information in each of the files. For my own decks on there they should be considered Apache licensed

RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
ApacheCon is created by the LF. It will have a tighter focus on talks that bring people. Our community defined and selected tracks simply do not create a good conference (from the perspective of the paying attendee). What this means is that we have, moving forwards, very little say in what

RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
*we* do not have to ask it. The LF do. The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible for selecting it. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Pierre Smitsmailto:pierre.sm...@gmail.com Sent: ‎4/‎20/‎2015 8:05 AM To:

RE: Proposing tracks for ACEU15

2015-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Manufacturing, Professional Services and Retail Trade http://www.orrtiz.com On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote: *we* do not have to ask it. The LF do. The ASF are responsible for proposing (via CFP) content. We are not responsible

RE: I'm looking for State of the Feather filetype:pptx

2015-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Edward, I will send you the State of the Feather presentation offlist. Ross -Original Message- From: Edward J. Yoon [mailto:edwardy...@apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:09 AM To: dev@community.apache.org Subject: I'm looking for State of the Feather filetype:pptx Hi community,

RE: I'm looking for State of the Feather filetype:pptx

2015-05-12 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Edward, I should also have pointed you at some useful speaker materials at http://community.apache.org/speakers/slides.html (state of the feather is in you inbox). -Original Message- From: Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:ross.gard...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 12:26

RE: Thank You for Joining Pivotal at ApacheCon and Welcome Apache Geode!

2015-05-14 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Fair enough. It happens. I suspect the real concern was that the reg list might have been shared. Thanks for confirming that wasn't the case. Ross Sent from my Windows Phone From: Roman Shaposhnikmailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org Sent: ‎5/‎14/‎2015 4:12 PM To:

RE: Presentations about Apache Software Foundation

2015-04-04 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
Anyone can do whatever they want with whatever level of attribution they feel is appropriate where my decks are concerned. No need to complicate things with policies or best practice guidelines for anyone to worry about. Just do what feels right. Thank you for sharing the world of the ASF, I

RE: Events calendar

2015-04-10 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
To get people involved we need to provide value. Today, we offer no value. So, if I may, I would like to answer a slightly different question. The one I want to answer is how can we provide value so that PMCs will proactively maintain a central events calendar? Here's my starting answer, more

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