Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-10-09 Thread Tharsan Thavarajah
Unsubscribe pls Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 10.10.2023 um 01:46 schrieb Tharsan Thavarajah > : > > No subscribe pls this i want this no more > Von meinem iPhone gesendet > >> Am 02.10.2023 um 09:20 schrieb Christofer Dutz : >> >> Ok … changes have been merged … now let’s see ;-) >> >>

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-10-09 Thread Tharsan Thavarajah
No subscribe pls this i want this no more Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 02.10.2023 um 09:20 schrieb Christofer Dutz : > > Ok … changes have been merged … now let’s see ;-) > > Chris > > Von: Christofer Dutz > Datum: Samstag, 30. September 2023 um 08:39 > An: dev@community.apache.org >

AW: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-10-02 Thread Christofer Dutz
Ok … changes have been merged … now let’s see ;-) Chris Von: Christofer Dutz Datum: Samstag, 30. September 2023 um 08:39 An: dev@community.apache.org Betreff: Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs? Well it wouldn't be you,

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-09-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
Well it wouldn't be you, who's getting the beer... You would need ask sebb to share that beer with you ;-) Chris Gesendet von Outlook für Android From: Christopher Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2023 1:57:02 AM To: ComDev Subject: Re:

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-09-29 Thread Christopher
Loophole question: can we start a campaign to complain just to get free beer? On Fri, Sep 29, 2023, 15:25 Craig Russell wrote: > I thought that a few folks responded to sebb earlier in the thread. > Repeating an earlier post does not make it a new post. > > Changing defaults will not affect

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-09-29 Thread Craig Russell
I thought that a few folks responded to sebb earlier in the thread. Repeating an earlier post does not make it a new post. Changing defaults will not affect people who have changed their own project settings. And if they are happy with the defaults to the extent that they complain about the

AW: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-09-29 Thread Christofer Dutz
As it was pointed out that nobody responded to this, let me do so: We have provided docs for quite some time … nothing really has changed as many projects are on a steep decline on using their lists. These proposes changes have seen a very dominant support by most people who expressed their

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2023-08-04 16:02, rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: But the current setting is objectively awful, and so far I have not heard even one person saying that it's better. I'm perplexed as to why we'd want to even suggest, much less encourage, remaining with the current setting. The current defaults

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread rbowen
On Fri, 2023-08-04 at 06:46 -0700, Craig Russell wrote: > I agree with Mark. > > > On Aug 4, 2023, at 02:36, Mark Thomas wrote: > > > > I suggest the following: > > > > - announce to projects that the default is changing in X days / > > weeks > >  (or even months) time > > - provide

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread Craig Russell
I agree with Mark. > On Aug 4, 2023, at 02:36, Mark Thomas wrote: > > I suggest the following: > > - announce to projects that the default is changing in X days / weeks > (or even months) time > - provide instructions for what projects need to do before then to keep > the existing format

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi Sebb. Le ven. 4 août 2023 à 11:29, sebb a écrit : > > This was not a fair poll Sure. [But suggestions to organize a fair (thus official?) poll are usually ignored.] > - it was not open long enough. > Also it is not representative; participation on this list is not > required of projects. >

AW: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, and thanks Mark and Jarek. I fully agree with what you said. And regarding the email: Tthat’s why I proposed in the draft email a time a few weeks in the future (but not too many) and added links to what a project would need to do to keep things the way they are. If a project deeply

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread Jarek Potiuk
I personally think if it is super easy to change back, I see no problem with making the change. "Ask for forgiveness not for permission". It already happened in the past that someone in the past "forced" the projects to use previous defaults by the fact of defining it. What was the process when

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread Mark Thomas
On 04/08/2023 10:28, sebb wrote: This was not a fair poll - it was not open long enough. Also it is not representative; participation on this list is not required of projects. And people participating in the discussion are likely to be in favour. I don't think Comdev should be making decisions

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread sebb
This was not a fair poll - it was not open long enough. Also it is not representative; participation on this list is not required of projects. And people participating in the discussion are likely to be in favour. I don't think Comdev should be making decisions on behalf of other projects. Note:

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-04 Thread sebb
NAK - I don't think the defaults should be changed; instead provide docs on how to do so Don't force projects to change if they don't want to On Wed, 2 Aug 2023 at 07:46, Christofer Dutz wrote: > > Well, > > stating the obvious, I’ll add my +1 ;-) > > And yes Craig, I said the defaults … if you

AW: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-03 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, as there seems to be general consent on this, I have taken the liberty to prepare the PRs for this: https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-github-event-notifier/pull/12 https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-github-discussions-notifier/pull/2 However, have I marked them as DRAFT so

AW: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-02 Thread Christofer Dutz
Well, stating the obvious, I’ll add my +1 ;-) And yes Craig, I said the defaults … if you have explicitly configured your .asf.yaml subjects, they are left unchanged. Chris Von: Richard Zowalla Datum: Mittwoch, 2. August 2023 um 08:10 An: dev@community.apache.org Betreff: Re: [POLL] Should

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-02 Thread Richard Zowalla
+1 Am 2. August 2023 07:47:25 MESZ schrieb Jarek Potiuk : >+1 > >On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 2:15 AM Craig Russell wrote: >> >> Hi Christofer, >> >> As long as projects with their own settings can continue to use them, I'm >> >> +1 >> >> to change the defaults for all projects. If the projects don't

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Jarek Potiuk
+1 On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 2:15 AM Craig Russell wrote: > > Hi Christofer, > > As long as projects with their own settings can continue to use them, I'm > > +1 > > to change the defaults for all projects. If the projects don't like being > able to use their lists again, they can always go back

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Christofer, As long as projects with their own settings can continue to use them, I'm +1 to change the defaults for all projects. If the projects don't like being able to use their lists again, they can always go back to what they had before. Thanks, Craig > On Aug 1, 2023, at 05:16,

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Ayush Saxena
+1, Looks Good!!! -Ayush On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 19:08, Johan Corveleyn wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:29 PM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > > @Gary, see the date range in the URLs. > > You might need to manually perform an empty search in those ranges. > > It seems those date ranges in the query

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Johan Corveleyn
On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 3:29 PM Volkan Yazıcı wrote: > @Gary, see the date range in the URLs. > You might need to manually perform an empty search in those ranges. It seems those date ranges in the query string are only taken into account after a refresh. Perhaps on first request, if you have no

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Volkan Yazıcı
+1 @Christofer, thanks for taking care of this. The improvement is undeniable. @Gary, see the date range in the URLs. You might need to manually perform an empty search in those ranges. On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 2:16 PM Christofer Dutz wrote: > Starting a new thread as the last one sort of dried

AW: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Christofer Dutz
Try this: https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@streampipes.apache.org:dfr=2023-1-1|dto=2023-1-15: Not sure why it didn’t work … if it doesn’t again, just select the date range on that list from 01.01.2023 to 15.01.2023 Chris Von: Gary Gregory Datum: Dienstag, 1. August 2023 um 14:55 An:

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread hans . van . akelyen
+1 for making this change, it will make the mailinglists a lot more readable for humans. @Gary: For example you have multiple mails around a single PR that are not consolidated into a single thread because the username of who commented is in the subject. Cheers, Hans On 1 Aug 2023 at 15:06

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. Le mar. 1 août 2023 à 14:17, Christofer Dutz a écrit : > > Starting a new thread as the last one sort of dried up and didn’t quite form > anything actionable. > > Being subscribed to many of our mailing-lists and most recently looking into > every project, dev-lists when reviewing board

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Gary Gregory
I can't tell the difference between https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@streampipes.apache.org:dfr=2023-1-9|dto=2023-1-15 and https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@streampipes.apache.org:dfr=2023-6-12|dto=2023-6-18 They both use "[PR]". What am I missing? Gary On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 8:17 AM

Re: [POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread rbowen
+1 to making this change. It would immediately make our mailing lists more consumable and welcoming to actual humans. Coupled with a page explaining how this works (Oh! Look! There's already one at https://community.apache.org/contributors/mailing-lists.html ) this would be a great service to our

[POLL] Should we ask Infra to change the defaults used to generate GitHub integration email subjecs?

2023-08-01 Thread Christofer Dutz
Starting a new thread as the last one sort of dried up and didn’t quite form anything actionable. Being subscribed to many of our mailing-lists and most recently looking into every project, dev-lists when reviewing board reports, I have seen many of our lists literally being rendered useless.