Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Richard S. Hall
> On Dec 1, 2015, at 19:14, Benson Margulies wrote: > > On Dec 1, 2015 6:43 PM, "Richard S. Hall" wrote: >> >> >>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 17:50, Benson Margulies > wrote: >>> >>> >

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Richard S. Hall
> On Dec 1, 2015, at 17:50, Benson Margulies wrote: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~bimargul...@gmail.com/Felix+and+Git > > ? Seems like a good start, although is that editable by others? It seems like other technical issues were raised about the

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
On Dec 1, 2015 6:43 PM, "Richard S. Hall" wrote: > > > > On Dec 1, 2015, at 17:50, Benson Margulies wrote: > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~bimargul...@gmail.com/Felix+and+Git > > > > ? > > Seems like a good start, although is that

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/~bimargul...@gmail.com/Felix+and+Git ? On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote: > On 12/1/15 13:40 , Carsten Ziegeler wrote: >> >> Richard S. Hall wrote >>> >>> Well, the argument to the contrary is perhaps that is

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:50 PM, David Jencks wrote: > I also see no way to edit your page, and I have no idea who might be a > confluence space administrator who could change permissions. > > I was going to add to the pro-single-git-repo the point that you can check >

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread David Jencks
I also see no way to edit your page, and I have no idea who might be a confluence space administrator who could change permissions. I was going to add to the pro-single-git-repo the point that you can check out exactly the parts you want using git sparse-checkout. I don’t think the decision to

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
I believe that everyone in the felix-users confluence group now has access to edit pages in my 'personal space'. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:50 PM, David Jencks wrote: >> I also see no way to

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Nick Baker
We at Pentaho made the migration to Git and GitHub from Subversion and Perforce a few years ago now. At the time we decided to go with multiple repositories (we're at around 100 right now). In retrospect this was a large mistake. Development often spans multiple repositories creating dependent

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Marcel Offermans
Hello Benson, There is, at least, substantial apathy about git on the part of the  sub-communities that work on some of the sub-projects. In my view,  this apathy, including perhaps a bit of antipathy, sunk the discussion  of just converting as one big repo. As I see it, Felix is a bit of a 

Fwd: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Marcel Offermans wrote: > Hello Benson, > > There is, at least, substantial apathy about git on the part of the > sub-communities that work on some of the sub-projects. In my view, > this apathy, including perhaps a bit of antipathy,

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Marcel Offermans wrote > > Let me speak for myself here, I don’t see compelling arguments for moving to > Git. What problem are we solving here? Why is moving to Git the right > solution? > That’s where my lack of enthusiasm comes from. Nobody has yet explained that > to me. And splitting

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 12/1/15 12:57 , Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Marcel Offermans wrote Let me speak for myself here, I don’t see compelling arguments for moving to Git. What problem are we solving here? Why is moving to Git the right solution? That’s where my lack of enthusiasm comes from. Nobody has yet

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 12/1/15 13:40 , Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Richard S. Hall wrote Well, the argument to the contrary is perhaps that is makes it more difficult for us as a community to have oversight into releases. It almost assures us that some/many community members will never checkout subprojects that aren't

[jira] [Created] (FELIX-5125) NPE in ConfigInstaller

2015-12-01 Thread Alexandre Roman (JIRA)
Alexandre Roman created FELIX-5125: -- Summary: NPE in ConfigInstaller Key: FELIX-5125 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5125 Project: Felix Issue Type: Bug

[jira] [Resolved] (FELIX-5124) maven-bundle-plugin interferes with installAtEnd setting of maven-install-bundle

2015-12-01 Thread Oliver Heger (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5124?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Oliver Heger resolved FELIX-5124. - Resolution: Invalid In the mean time I did some more tests and found other plug-ins and scenarios

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
I will write a VOTE thread with a description. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Benson Margulies wrote >> I would like to peel the bundle plugin. Does any pmc member sympathize >> sufficiently to start a vote to test consensus to do that? > > I

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Benson Margulies wrote > I would like to peel the bundle plugin. Does any pmc member sympathize > sufficiently to start a vote to test consensus to do that? I don't want to be a PITA, but would you care about writing a more detailed description of what that would mean? (git repo name, how it is

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
Here's how I'd call the vote: This is a vote to move the reference source of the maven-bundle-plugin to git. To be specific, - http://git.apache.org/ will list the repository as 'felix-maven-bundle-plugin.git' (because all repo names start with their project name). - all existing history will

[jira] [Commented] (FELIX-5112) ClassCastException when deploying an OBR Resource already present in the runtime

2015-12-01 Thread David Bosschaert (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-5112?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15033905#comment-15033905 ] David Bosschaert commented on FELIX-5112: - An updated pull request has been provided here:

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread David Jencks
I apologize for losing track of this whole discussion. I don’t recall seeing a convincing to me reason to have, at least initially, more than one git repo. Wasn’t there even a new git feature that let you check out only part of a project? However many repos we decide on, I’m in favor of git

Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
It sure seems as if there are no PMC members fond enough of the git idea to call a vote. I'm treating this as a dead topic for now.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Felix JAAS Support 0.0.4

2015-12-01 Thread Pierre De Rop
+1 regards /Pierre On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > +1 > > > > -- > Carsten Ziegeler > Adobe Research Switzerland > cziege...@apache.org >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Felix Script Console Plugin 1.0.2

2015-12-01 Thread Jamie G.
+1 (non-binding) On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 2:59 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > +1 > > > -- > Carsten Ziegeler > Adobe Research Switzerland > cziege...@apache.org

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Raymond Auge
U ok.. let me see if I can belatedly recapture the brilliance.. I think it was simply the observation that if the end result was to have many repos, couldn't each subproject just start pealing itself off into a git repo as it sees fit? Call it lazy migration if you will. The side effects

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
I would like to peel the bundle plugin. Does any pmc member sympathize sufficiently to start a vote to test consensus to do that? On Dec 1, 2015 9:38 AM, "Raymond Auge" wrote: > U ok.. let me see if I can belatedly recapture the brilliance.. > > I think it was

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Benson Margulies wrote > It sure seems as if there are no PMC members fond enough of the git > idea to call a vote. I'm treating this as a dead topic for now. > Looks like :( I had a brief discussion two weeks ago with Ray, and he had an interesting idea. @Ray do you want to bring it up?

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
David Jencks wrote > I apologize for losing track of this whole discussion. I don’t recall seeing > a convincing to me reason to have, at least initially, more than one git > repo. Wasn’t there even a new git feature that let you check out only part > of a project? > > However many repos we

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
David, There is, at least, substantial apathy about git on the part of the sub-communities that work on some of the sub-projects. In my view, this apathy, including perhaps a bit of antipathy, sunk the discussion of just converting as one big repo. As I see it, Felix is a bit of a loose

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Benson Margulies wrote > Here's how I'd call the vote: > > This is a vote to move the reference source of the maven-bundle-plugin to git. > > To be specific, > > - http://git.apache.org/ will list the repository as > 'felix-maven-bundle-plugin.git' (because all repo names start with > their

Re: Git dies of lack of interest?

2015-12-01 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: > Benson Margulies wrote >> Here's how I'd call the vote: >> >> This is a vote to move the reference source of the maven-bundle-plugin to >> git. >> >> To be specific, >> >> - http://git.apache.org/ will list the

[jira] [Resolved] (FELIX-4816) bndtools-ify Dependency Manager

2015-12-01 Thread Pierre De Rop (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-4816?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierre De Rop resolved FELIX-4816. -- Resolution: Fixed Fix Version/s: org.apache.felix.dependencymanager-r1 forgot to close