Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-06-01 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
David Crossley wrote: > If we give people too much rope, then they can hang > themselves. ... and we'll get caught in their noose trying to maintain the code base ... -- Ferdinand Soethe

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-31 Thread David Crossley
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > > >I'm sorry that you took my original mail as being criticism of your > >excellent work. It was not intended as personal comment, only > >reassurance to Gregor that his concerns were, in my opinion, unfounded. > > it seems the community is now

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-31 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Ross Gardler wrote: Again, this is not meant as a criticism, it is an observation. I made the observation because Gregor had clearly found himself in the middle of one of these *seemingly* complex examples and it was ringing alarm bells for him. He was quite rightly asking should he turn them

Re: [OT] Come on Preston!!! (Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language))

2005-05-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 10:04 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 21:33 -0500, Antonio Gallardo wrote: > > > >>On Dom, 29 de Mayo de 2005, 21:15, David Crossley dijo: > >> > >>>Well said Ross, you express yourself well even when drunk. > >> > >>+1 > >> > >

[OT] Come on Preston!!! (Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language))

2005-05-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 21:33 -0500, Antonio Gallardo wrote: On Dom, 29 de Mayo de 2005, 21:15, David Crossley dijo: Well said Ross, you express yourself well even when drunk. +1 Perhaps we need to send him more beers? ;-) Seriously, it was a very nice answer! I lik

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Sorry! On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 11:16 +1000, David Crossley wrote: > Thorsten, stop! We already said a while ago that we love your work > with views. We also said that we cannot afford for our attention > to be distracted at this stage. We agreed to work towards getting > the 0.7 release finished bef

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 21:33 -0500, Antonio Gallardo wrote: > On Dom, 29 de Mayo de 2005, 21:15, David Crossley dijo: > > Well said Ross, you express yourself well even when drunk. > > +1 > > Perhaps we need to send him more beers? ;-) > > Seriously, it was a very nice answer! I liked it much. >

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Dom, 29 de Mayo de 2005, 21:15, David Crossley dijo: > Well said Ross, you express yourself well even when drunk. +1 Perhaps we need to send him more beers? ;-) Seriously, it was a very nice answer! I liked it much. Best Regards, Antonio Gallardo

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread David Crossley
Well said Ross, you express yourself well even when drunk. Would the next poster please start a new thread for any design issues that spring from this. --David

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: I really thought whether or not to answer this thread. Well I said I was going to answer this tomorrow, but there is no way I will sleep thinking that I have left this unaddressed so here goes (I hope the alcohol doesn't make things worse ;-)... On Fri, 2005-05-27

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten, stop! We already said a while ago that we love your work with views. We also said that we cannot afford for our attention to be distracted at this stage. We agreed to work towards getting the 0.7 release finished before we can concentrate on views. The problem is that only a few committer

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 16:02 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 11:39 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: ... So in conclusion, I agree with Gregors concerns, but I also agree with the direction Thorsten is trying to go in.

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Ross Gardler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 11:39 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: ... So in conclusion, I agree with Gregors concerns, but I also agree with the direction Thorsten is trying to go in. Actually that is the reason why I am proposing that forrest

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 10:25 -0500, Antonio Gallardo wrote: > On Dom, 29 de Mayo de 2005, 8:22, Thorsten Scherler dijo: > > > > >> So in conclusion, I agree with Gregors concerns, but I also agree with > >> the direction Thorsten is trying to go in. > >> > > > > Actually that is the reason why I

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 16:02 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > ... > > On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 11:39 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > ... > >>So in conclusion, I agree with Gregors concerns, but I also agree with > >>the direction Thorsten is trying to go in. > > > > Actually

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Diwaker Gupta
> ¿? Are you talking about Diwaker Gupta? If so then what you wrote is not > true! I added CSS support to then decide to get rid of it again. Perfectly correct! I *was* working on another skin using views, but I've stopped work on that since I find that problem with the id generation for anchor ta

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Antonio Gallardo
On Dom, 29 de Mayo de 2005, 8:22, Thorsten Scherler dijo: >> So in conclusion, I agree with Gregors concerns, but I also agree with >> the direction Thorsten is trying to go in. >> > > Actually that is the reason why I am proposing that forrest is *not* > officially developing views anymore. I d

Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 11:39 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: ... So in conclusion, I agree with Gregors concerns, but I also agree with the direction Thorsten is trying to go in. Actually that is the reason why I am proposing that forrest is *not* officially developing

[Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I really thought whether or not to answer this thread. On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 11:39 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 18:20 -0400, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: > > ... > > >>are you suggesting that it is easier to learn and use a DSL than to use > >>ja