Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-10-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... > BTW forrest is for me as well only hobby. Same here. > It seems anything that I say is taken differently then I indented, I am > quite tiered of this and will try not to get involved in any such > discussions anymore. It is to frustrating. Same here. PS: I have no

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-10-01 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > I never tried to produce pressure! I only said (with other words then > Ross) if it is your itch to release then scratch it by helping to do the > work involved. > > BTW forrest is for me as well only hobby. > > It seems anything that I say is taken differently then I i

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-10-01 Thread Gav....
- Original Message - From: "Ferdinand Soethe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback) | What is different about a feature development in a branch | that I (for lack of time or interest)

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-10-01 Thread Gav....
- Original Message - From: "Thorsten Scherler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback) |I never tried to produce pressure! I only said (with other words then | Ross) if it is your itch

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-10-01 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I never tried to produce pressure! I only said (with other words then Ross) if it is your itch to release then scratch it by helping to do the work involved. BTW forrest is for me as well only hobby. It seems anything that I say is taken differently then I indented, I am quite tiered of this and

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Thorsten Scherler wrote: >> This was confirmed in response to my recent suggestions to create all >> new features in separate branches that can be integrated (and >> released) as soon as they are stable. > Merging different branches that are have to go to the core are *not* > possible, merging

Re: devs do what we can (Was: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback))

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
You are correct. People need to do the work if they have the energy to initiate a release. Other people will follow and help. Same in every open source project. And no-one needs to feel guilty for not helping. When it happens it happens. If not then we will continue on until the momentum gains. -D

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > Ross Gardler escribi??: > > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > > Why do we want to release 0.8, now? > > > > release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or > > so ago. > > +1 > > e.g. views reached their first stable version as prototype. Everything >

devs do what we can (Was: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback))

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > I am making no cuts and no inline comments, it would be a crime to mess > with the message Diwaker is sending here. Thank you, Diwaker, you are > right on target. > > Ross > > > Diwaker Gupta wrote: > >>No offense to anyone but if s

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
I am making no cuts and no inline comments, it would be a crime to mess with the message Diwaker is sending here. Thank you, Diwaker, you are right on target. Ross Diwaker Gupta wrote: No offense to anyone but if somebody wants to release 0.8 as - refactored sitemaps to utilise locationmap, t

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Diwaker Gupta
> No offense to anyone but if somebody wants to release 0.8 as - > refactored sitemaps to utilise locationmap, then we (or better this > somebody) has to put some more work into it. It cannot be that we expect > from the usual suspects that they now as well put more work into that > part of forrest

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
El vie, 30-09-2005 a las 16:40 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe escribió: ... > This was confirmed in response to my recent suggestions to create all > new features in separate branches that can be integrated (and > released) as soon as they are stable. Merging different branches that are have to go to the

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: El vie, 30-09-2005 a las 17:08 +0100, Ross Gardler escribió: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Why do we want to release 0.8, now? release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or so ago. +1 ... Besides, the locationmap is, in itself, a very powe

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
El vie, 30-09-2005 a las 17:08 +0100, Ross Gardler escribió: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > Why do we want to release 0.8, now? > > release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or > so ago. +1 e.g. views reached their first stable version as prototype. Everything that is c

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Why do we want to release 0.8, now? release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or so ago. I thought we said we need to refactor the whole lot but now we want again release partial work? Refactor the whole lot for a 1.0 release, yes, but the

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I agree with everything you say re release early, release often (I have a mail in my drafts folder I will send in a moment, I wanted to hear a couple of other opinions before sending it). Btw: Please also re-consider Tim's excellent mail about doing the refactori

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > Why do we want to release 0.8, now? One reason is that we agreed a while ago that we should release more often. We also have an improved Cocoon underneath. Features are easier for users to grasp in small stages. > I thought we said we need to refactor the whole lot bu

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: ... We should do parallel development on the 0.8/0.9 releases and the views/xhtml2 work (done in plugins, yes I changed my mind). What caused you to change your mind? You almost had me convinced that doing the work in a development branch was the

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > Ferdinand Soethe wrote: > >Ross Gardler wrote: > > > >>>Are you gonna suggest the new release or should I? > > > >>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=111986901417286&w=2 > > > >Sorry, I was a bit terse. > > > >What I meant to say is exactly along the lines that Ross

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > Why do we want to release 0.8, now? > I thought we said we need to refactor the whole lot but now we want > again release partial work? We have ongoing discussions about opening > new branches, doing the work in plugins, ... We already have an agreement to do small re

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Why do we want to release 0.8, now? I thought we said we need to refactor the whole lot but now we want again release partial work? We have ongoing discussions about opening new branches, doing the work in plugins, ... Sorry, but it is starting to get real confusing. We need a final decision ba

A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Are you gonna suggest the new release or should I? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=111986901417286&w=2 Sorry, I was a bit terse. What I meant to say is exactly along the lines that Ross quoted here (thanks, I'll add the title of