Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-09-03 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote: Anything more than 6 to 8 groupings could cause chaos (just like at our current release process which takes weeks to get everything voted and released...) After cleanup of server to move the samples to /samples and ApacheDS to /plugins, we

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-09-03 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 6, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Donald Woods wrote: Another thought (now that I had some lunch) What if we create a builders/deployers grouping, which contained the modules and configs needed for each builder, like - deployers myfaces modules

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-09-03 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 6, 2007, at 8:03 PM, David Blevins wrote: On Aug 6, 2007, at 8:12 AM, David Jencks wrote: I certainly agree with your goal but am less sure about your proposed naming and organization. Also from looking at your list it took me a couple minutes to figure out what is removed from

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-09-03 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 29, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Prasad Kashyap wrote: Scenario 1: server/support/trunk server/framework/trunk server/plugins/trunk/ --- jee5, non-jee5, samples etc are all here together. I'm not really convinced we need to have this intermediate server tree right now. IMO

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-30 Thread Paul McMahan
On Aug 29, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Prasad Kashyap wrote: 2. We have to split the current build tree into support, framework, and plugins sub-trees. Other than support and framework, everything else should be plugins. This includes jee5, non-jee5, samples etc. which could go in their own subtrees or

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-29 Thread Prasad Kashyap
I'm trying to understand what we have discussed/decided so far. Please let me know if my summary is on track and help me correct course. We haven't discussed the actual maven groupIds/artifactIds/directory names yet. So all names used in this summary are just as examples. Summary:

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-29 Thread Jason Dillon
I think we don't really need svn, lets just mail around patches we make to the list and get rid of this scm crapo... too much work for too little benifit lol :-P --jason On Aug 29, 2007, at 10:12 AM, Prasad Kashyap wrote: I'm trying to understand what we have discussed/decided so

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-08 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Paul McMahan wrote: On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:59 PM, Donald Woods wrote: we should consider the more drastic changes, like moving the base Admin Console support (via Pluto 1.2) out to /plugins I really like that idea for a couple of reasons - - it allows us to keep

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-08 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 6, 2007, at 8:03 PM, David Blevins wrote: On Aug 6, 2007, at 8:12 AM, David Jencks wrote: I certainly agree with your goal but am less sure about your proposed naming and organization. Also from looking at your list it took me a couple minutes to figure out what is removed from

Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread Jason Dillon
Hiya, I've mentioned this before... and now that we have a 2.0 branch and trunk has moved on to 2.1 work, I think its time we really make a decision on this and implement it. Before, I had been thinking of keeping all of the modules in the server/trunk tree just in better locations

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread David Jencks
I certainly agree with your goal but am less sure about your proposed naming and organization. Also from looking at your list it took me a couple minutes to figure out what is removed from server I've been thinking that we could proceed by turning bits of the server into plugins. For

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread Jason Dillon
Um, I just took a blind stab in the dark... But, what I was thinking was that we have the core modules which are the bare minimum to boot up a functional Geronimo server w/o any JavaEE muck, then slice up the other components into plugins, though they don't really need to be G plugins,

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread Donald Woods
Anything more than 6 to 8 groupings could cause chaos (just like at our current release process which takes weeks to get everything voted and released...) We already have 5 groupings created - - devtools (Eclipse, Netbeans, J2G) - plugins (non-JEE5 required server add-ons) - samples (should

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread Donald Woods
Another thought (now that I had some lunch) What if we create a builders/deployers grouping, which contained the modules and configs needed for each builder, like - deployers myfaces modules geronimo-myfaces

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:59 AM, Donald Woods wrote: Anything more than 6 to 8 groupings could cause chaos (just like at our current release process which takes weeks to get everything voted and released...) Yes, it has to be done very carefully, though if you look a Maven, Plexus and the

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread Jason Dillon
I'd rather not have another level to simply separate code jars from config jars... I think they should all live together, and if needed we suffix the config bits with -config, so you'd have: activemq-broker activemq-broker-config activemq-ra activemq-ra-config IMO, no need for

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread Paul McMahan
On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:59 PM, Donald Woods wrote: we should consider the more drastic changes, like moving the base Admin Console support (via Pluto 1.2) out to /plugins I really like that idea for a couple of reasons - - it allows us to keep the admin console that's currently at server/

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread David Jencks
On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:43 PM, Paul McMahan wrote: On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:59 PM, Donald Woods wrote: we should consider the more drastic changes, like moving the base Admin Console support (via Pluto 1.2) out to /plugins I really like that idea for a couple of reasons - - it allows us to

Re: Splitting up the server into a few more chunks

2007-08-06 Thread David Blevins
On Aug 6, 2007, at 8:12 AM, David Jencks wrote: I certainly agree with your goal but am less sure about your proposed naming and organization. Also from looking at your list it took me a couple minutes to figure out what is removed from server I've been thinking that we could proceed