Geronimo and OpenEJB relationship (was Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo)
Hi Jeremy, Sorry for the confusion, I probably should have started a new thread for this mail as the mail I replied to was a mail I missed from months back from a vote thread. The vote is actually over ( see dblevins mail at http://www.mail-archive.com/dev%40geronimo.apache.org/msg26078.html ). Jeremy Whitlock wrote: Hi all, I am an OpenEJB developer and although I'm not as well known as many of the others, I have been with the team for about 3 years. I am a big fan of Geronimo but ever since OpenEJB became the EJB container for Geronimo, things have been a little less clear for OpenEJB users. For example, a lot of people only know OpenEJB via Geronimo. Most don't know that OpenEJB is a standalone EJB container with more than 7 years under its belt. While this is a tragedy this is not the point I am wishing to make so lets continue. OpenEJB began life a long time ago. When Geronimo came along, things took a turn for the worst for OpenEJB. Not only did the mainstream development of the non-Geronimo version of OpenEJB suffer and nearly stop but the users of OpenEJB also began to backlash about this feeling of neglect. Geronimo took the best developers from OpenEJB to build a better version of OpenEJB but it only builds and runs inside of Geronimo. This again is a tragedy. I could go on but I need to make a point. It is my understanding that OpenEJB will be moving back to one development stream (OpenEJB version 3) that will be used by Geronimo and OpenEJB standalone, so the future should be much brighter as development will all be focused in the one stream. Is this correct? My point is that OpenEJB is a mature EJB container with many devoted developers. It is not tied to Geronimo. The fact that the version within Geronimo is pretty Geronimo-specific is a planning problem and should not be taken out on the OpenEJB developers. Many of the developers, like myself, would love to see the Apache Software Foundation open its doors to a mature and well-known EJB container to call its own. The concerns about OpenEJB ties to Geronimo should not keep a great product from being sponsored at the ASF. Thanks for taking the time to explain what the concerns were, as I wasn't sure if they were technical or project management concerns. I look forward to seeing OpenEJB in the incubator. Regards, John Take care, Jeremy P.S. - I'm a +1 on this if my vote isn't seen as biased. ;) On 7/4/06, *John Sisson* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, What type of concerns do they have regarding its close association with Geronimo? Regards, John Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I also am leaning towards the idea that it's good for OpenEJB to be separate from Geronimo. Whenever I talk w/ users of OpenEJB, they are always concerned about its close association w/ Geronimo. However, it is my understanding that Dain is working hard on decoupling OpenEJB's strong reliance on Geronimo code. Regards, Alan Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, *David Blevins* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
Hi All Jeremy I agree with, and this current close relation to Geronimo delayed the development on OpenEJB, specially when the build of Geronimo is not going well as OpenEJB now required APIs from Geronimo which I don't know why they don't separate it as a common JEE code which can be used into either Geronimo or OpenEJB or any other JEE related stuff. Thanks and best regards... Mohammad Nour El-Din On 7/5/06, Jeremy Whitlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I am an OpenEJB developer and although I'm not as well known as many of the others, I have been with the team for about 3 years. I am a big fan of Geronimo but ever since OpenEJB became the EJB container for Geronimo, things have been a little less clear for OpenEJB users. For example, a lot of people only know OpenEJB via Geronimo. Most don't know that OpenEJB is a standalone EJB container with more than 7 years under its belt. While this is a tragedy this is not the point I am wishing to make so lets continue. OpenEJB began life a long time ago. When Geronimo came along, things took a turn for the worst for OpenEJB. Not only did the mainstream development of the non-Geronimo version of OpenEJB suffer and nearly stop but the users of OpenEJB also began to backlash about this feeling of neglect. Geronimo took the best developers from OpenEJB to build a better version of OpenEJB but it only builds and runs inside of Geronimo. This again is a tragedy. I could go on but I need to make a point. My point is that OpenEJB is a mature EJB container with many devoted developers. It is not tied to Geronimo. The fact that the version within Geronimo is pretty Geronimo-specific is a planning problem and should not be taken out on the OpenEJB developers. Many of the developers, like myself, would love to see the Apache Software Foundation open its doors to a mature and well-known EJB container to call its own. The concerns about OpenEJB ties to Geronimo should not keep a great product from being sponsored at the ASF. Take care, Jeremy P.S. - I'm a +1 on this if my vote isn't seen as biased. ;) On 7/4/06, John Sisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan,What type of concerns do they have regarding its close association with Geronimo? Regards,JohnAlan D. Cabrera wrote: I also am leaning towards the idea that it's good for OpenEJB to be separate from Geronimo.Whenever I talk w/ users of OpenEJB, they are always concerned about its close association w/ Geronimo.However, it is my understanding that Dain is working hard on decoupling OpenEJB's strong reliance on Geronimo code. Regards, Alan Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, *David Blevins* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project.The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
Nothing with the actual association itself. Die hard OpenEJB fans want to use OpenEJB w/out the usual Geronimo accoutrements. As I mentioned below, Dain is working on this. Regards, Alan John Sisson wrote: Alan, What type of concerns do they have regarding its close association with Geronimo? Regards, John Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I also am leaning towards the idea that it's good for OpenEJB to be separate from Geronimo. Whenever I talk w/ users of OpenEJB, they are always concerned about its close association w/ Geronimo. However, it is my understanding that Dain is working hard on decoupling OpenEJB's strong reliance on Geronimo code. Regards, Alan Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, *David Blevins* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
These seem to be good points to me. Regards, Alan Jeremy Whitlock wrote: Hi all, I am an OpenEJB developer and although I'm not as well known as many of the others, I have been with the team for about 3 years. I am a big fan of Geronimo but ever since OpenEJB became the EJB container for Geronimo, things have been a little less clear for OpenEJB users. For example, a lot of people only know OpenEJB via Geronimo. Most don't know that OpenEJB is a standalone EJB container with more than 7 years under its belt. While this is a tragedy this is not the point I am wishing to make so lets continue. OpenEJB began life a long time ago. When Geronimo came along, things took a turn for the worst for OpenEJB. Not only did the mainstream development of the non-Geronimo version of OpenEJB suffer and nearly stop but the users of OpenEJB also began to backlash about this feeling of neglect. Geronimo took the best developers from OpenEJB to build a better version of OpenEJB but it only builds and runs inside of Geronimo. This again is a tragedy. I could go on but I need to make a point. My point is that OpenEJB is a mature EJB container with many devoted developers. It is not tied to Geronimo. The fact that the version within Geronimo is pretty Geronimo-specific is a planning problem and should not be taken out on the OpenEJB developers. Many of the developers, like myself, would love to see the Apache Software Foundation open its doors to a mature and well-known EJB container to call its own. The concerns about OpenEJB ties to Geronimo should not keep a great product from being sponsored at the ASF. Take care, Jeremy P.S. - I'm a +1 on this if my vote isn't seen as biased. ;) On 7/4/06, John Sisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, What type of concerns do they have regarding its close association with Geronimo? Regards, John Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I also am leaning towards the idea that it's good for OpenEJB to be separate from Geronimo.Whenever I talk w/ users of OpenEJB, they are always concerned about its close association w/ Geronimo.However, it is my understanding that Dain is working hard on decoupling OpenEJB's strong reliance on Geronimo code. Regards, Alan Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, *David Blevins* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project.The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
Alan, What type of concerns do they have regarding its close association with Geronimo? Regards, John Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I also am leaning towards the idea that it's good for OpenEJB to be separate from Geronimo. Whenever I talk w/ users of OpenEJB, they are always concerned about its close association w/ Geronimo. However, it is my understanding that Dain is working hard on decoupling OpenEJB's strong reliance on Geronimo code. Regards, Alan Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, *David Blevins* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
Hi all, I am an OpenEJB developer and although I'm not as well known as many of the others, I have been with the team for about 3 years. I am a big fan of Geronimo but ever since OpenEJB became the EJB container for Geronimo, things have been a little less clear for OpenEJB users. For example, a lot of people only know OpenEJB via Geronimo. Most don't know that OpenEJB is a standalone EJB container with more than 7 years under its belt. While this is a tragedy this is not the point I am wishing to make so lets continue. OpenEJB began life a long time ago. When Geronimo came along, things took a turn for the worst for OpenEJB. Not only did the mainstream development of the non-Geronimo version of OpenEJB suffer and nearly stop but the users of OpenEJB also began to backlash about this feeling of neglect. Geronimo took the best developers from OpenEJB to build a better version of OpenEJB but it only builds and runs inside of Geronimo. This again is a tragedy. I could go on but I need to make a point. My point is that OpenEJB is a mature EJB container with many devoted developers. It is not tied to Geronimo. The fact that the version within Geronimo is pretty Geronimo-specific is a planning problem and should not be taken out on the OpenEJB developers. Many of the developers, like myself, would love to see the Apache Software Foundation open its doors to a mature and well-known EJB container to call its own. The concerns about OpenEJB ties to Geronimo should not keep a great product from being sponsored at the ASF. Take care,JeremyP.S. - I'm a +1 on this if my vote isn't seen as biased. ;)On 7/4/06, John Sisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Alan,What type of concerns do they have regarding its close association with Geronimo?Regards,JohnAlan D. Cabrera wrote: I also am leaning towards the idea that it's good for OpenEJB to be separate from Geronimo.Whenever I talk w/ users of OpenEJB, they are always concerned about its close association w/ Geronimo.However, it is my understanding that Dain is working hard on decoupling OpenEJB's strong reliance on Geronimo code. Regards, Alan Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, *David Blevins* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project.The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1Most of the OpenEJB developers are Geronimo developers, so it really makes sense to bring these two codebases together.I don't see any problem with OpenEJB coming together with Geronimo regarding to allow others to use the OpenEJB core w/o the rest of Geronimo. I believe that one of the key drives within Geronimo is to make it highly flexible and pluggable. Many components are already in use by other projects (and OpenEJB) itself) with out requiring the entire server.There merger of these two groups will almost certainly result in a more functional OpenEJB, which means a more functional Geronimo.--jasonOn Jul 2, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Mohammed Nour wrote:Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become aGeronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposalPlease vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJBduring incubation[ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo[ ] +0 = I don't mind either way[ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___+1 from me--David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
On 7/2/06, Mohammed Nour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? It is and it will end up as such. It's an independent project, and once it became a ASF project it will conceptually get Geronimo PMC support and thus become an subproject of Apache Geronimo. That's the only linkage between them. Technical stuff is and will be discussed within a OpenEJB community and it's up to it to decide what steps are to be taken - be more focus on Geronimo or EJB 3 spec itself with no strings attached (to Geronimo). (Strange, I wonder whether I've already voted for it). Jacek -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.laskowski.net.pl
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 - Don't think my vote counts...but I am showing my support anyways ;-) Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, *David Blevins* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
Ok, +1 from me as I don't remember I have already voted. Dave, when will the tally taken? Jacek On 7/2/06, Jeff Genender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 - Don't think my vote counts...but I am showing my support anyways ;-) Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, *David Blevins* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David -- Jacek Laskowski http://www.laskowski.net.pl
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
Jason, IIUC, Mohammed is asking if it is not better to have OpenEJB separate from Geronimo, not together. Your plus one seems to be at odds w/ your subsequent statements. Am I misunderstanding something? Regards, Alan Jason Dillon wrote: +1 Most of the OpenEJB developers are Geronimo developers, so it really makes sense to bring these two codebases together. I don't see any problem with OpenEJB coming together with Geronimoregarding to allow others to use the OpenEJB core w/o the rest of Geronimo. I believe that one of the key drives within Geronimo is to make it highly flexible and pluggable. Many components are already in use by other projects (and OpenEJB) itself) with out requiring the entire server. There merger of these two groups will almost certainly result in a more functional OpenEJB, which means a more functional Geronimo. --jason On Jul 2, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project.The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
Jacek Laskowski wrote: On 7/2/06, Mohammed Nour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? It is and it will end up as such. IIUC, it is up to the Incubator PMC where it ultimately ends up. Regards, Alan It's an independent project, and once it became a ASF project it will conceptually get Geronimo PMC support and thus become an subproject of Apache Geronimo. That's the only linkage between them. Technical stuff is and will be discussed within a OpenEJB community and it's up to it to decide what steps are to be taken - be more focus on Geronimo or EJB 3 spec itself with no strings attached (to Geronimo). (Strange, I wonder whether I've already voted for it). Jacek
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
I also am leaning towards the idea that it's good for OpenEJB to be separate from Geronimo. Whenever I talk w/ users of OpenEJB, they are always concerned about its close association w/ Geronimo. However, it is my understanding that Dain is working hard on decoupling OpenEJB's strong reliance on Geronimo code. Regards, Alan Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project.The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
[ATTENTION] Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
Everyone, please note that Mohammed is responding to an email from December 3, 2005. The vote is *over*. Here is that thread for reference: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/? t=11335933571r=1w=2 If there are questions on the status of OpenEJB's move to the incubator, the following thread would be an excellent place to post them. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.java.openejb.devel/3228/focus=3228 Thanks, David On Jul 2, 2006, at 2:03 AM, Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
On Jul 2, 2006, at 11:49 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: Jason, IIUC, Mohammed is asking if it is not better to have OpenEJB separate from Geronimo, not together. Your plus one seems to be at odds w/ your subsequent statements. Am I misunderstanding something?Sorry... my +1 is for the proposal.I've snipped out any confusing bits below...--jasonJason Dillon wrote: +1 Most of the OpenEJB developers are Geronimo developers, so it really makes sense to bring these two codebases together. I don't see any problem with OpenEJB coming together with Geronimo regarding to allow others to use the OpenEJB core w/o the rest of Geronimo. I believe that one of the key drives within Geronimo is to make it highly flexible and pluggable. Many components are already in use by other projects (and OpenEJB) itself) with out requiring the entire server. There merger of these two groups will almost certainly result in a more functional OpenEJB, which means a more functional Geronimo. On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
It should be more than possible to have a decoupled OpenEJB codebase that plugs into Geronimo while at the same time have these projects exists in the same community.--jasonOn Jul 2, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I also am leaning towards the idea that it's good for OpenEJB to be separate from Geronimo. Whenever I talk w/ users of OpenEJB, they are always concerned about its close association w/ Geronimo. However, it is my understanding that Dain is working hard on decoupling OpenEJB's strong reliance on Geronimo code. Regards, Alan Mohammed Nour wrote: Hi All... +1, but I have a question. Isn't it better to have OEJB as a separate project, as we have the intention to make it independent from Geronimo, as to have it work inside or outside Geronimo? On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here:http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
with whom? Sun? On Dec 5, 2005, at 2:09 PM, David Blevins wrote: We'd still like to have them, obviously. I'm optimistic something could be worked out. -David On Dec 4, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I'm for this, but quick question - what would you do with the standalone server distros? IIRC, you can't distribute anything called EJB outside of the full tested container stack as per the spec license... geir On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:00 AM, David Blevins wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
We'd still like to have them, obviously. I'm optimistic something could be worked out. -David On Dec 4, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I'm for this, but quick question - what would you do with the standalone server distros? IIRC, you can't distribute anything called EJB outside of the full tested container stack as per the spec license... geir On Dec 3, 2005, at 2:00 AM, David Blevins wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David -- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 -dain On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:00 PM, David Blevins wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
David Blevins wrote: [X] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo Jacek
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 from me. On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David -- Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 On 12/3/05 2:00 AM, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become aGeronimo sub-project.The incubator proposl is here:http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJBduring incubation[ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as asub-project of Geronimo[ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___+1 from me--David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 Regards, Alan David Blevins wrote, On 12/2/2005 11:00 PM: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 David Blevins wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 John David Blevins wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 Gianny David Blevins wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me
[VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 Sounds very reasonable to me. --jason On Dec 2, 2005, at 11:00 PM, David Blevins wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me -- David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
+1 David Blevins wrote: The OpenEJB committers have discussed it and voted to be become a Geronimo sub-project. The incubator proposl is here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenEjbProposal Please vote if you'd like Geronimo to be the sponsor of OpenEJB during incubation [ ] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo [ ] +0 = I don't mind either way [ ] -1 = I don't support this move because: ___ +1 from me --David
Re: [VOTE] Sponsor OpenEJB to become sub-project of Geronimo
On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [X] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of Geronimo Bruce -- perl -e 'print unpack(u30,D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]5R\F)R=6-E+G-N61ED\!G;6%I;\YC;VT* );' The Castor Project http://www.castor.org/ Apache Geronimo http://geronimo.apache.org/
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+ 1 - I can't wait for my apache.org email. ;)On 12/3/05, Bruce Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On 12/3/05, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [X] +1 = I support the move to sponsor OpenEJB during incubation as a sub-project of GeronimoBruce--perl -e 'print unpack(u30,D0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]5R\F)R=6-E+G-N61ED\!G;6%I;\YC;VT* );'The Castor Projecthttp://www.castor.org/Apache Geronimohttp://geronimo.apache.org/
