On 7/5/06, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not to insult any pmc members, but it appears that this is an issue
on which the PMC has absolutely no input. As such, it is difficult
for me to trust comments on this issue from anyone other than Ken.
I couldn't have expressed it clearer!
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Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I do not believe the +1's need to be from PMC members but other
committers. This is a snippet from Ken's personal web page:
Consequently, acting ex officio my VP/chair of Apache Geronimo role,
yesterday (Sunday, 21 May
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David Jencks wrote:
I do not think that Ken is providing sufficient communication to the
dev list. As matt pointed out, the original edict to the dev list
and ken's blog entry clearly and unequivocally stated that committer
votes were
On 7/5/06, Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Jencks wrote:
Sometime later ken appears
to have commmented on this policy with an interpretation that is
radically different from the original very clear statement with an
comment deep in a thread. Personally I find that
I do not believe the +1's need to be from PMC members but other committers. This is a snippet from
Ken's personal web page:
Consequently, acting ex officio my VP/chair of Apache Geronimo role, yesterday (Sunday, 21 May
2006) I changed the project's development model from CTR
whew... thanks for clearing that up Matt!On 7/4/06, Matt Hogstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not believe the +1's need to be from PMC members but other committers.This is a snippet fromKen's personal web page:Consequently, acting ex officio my VP/chair of Apache Geronimo role, yesterday
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I do not believe the +1's need to be from PMC members but other
committers. This is a snippet from Ken's personal web page:
Consequently, acting ex officio my VP/chair of Apache Geronimo role,
yesterday (Sunday, 21 May 2006) I changed the project's development
model
On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:54 PM, John Sisson wrote:
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I do not believe the +1's need to be from PMC members but other
committers. This is a snippet from Ken's personal web page:
Consequently, acting ex officio my VP/chair of Apache Geronimo
role, yesterday (Sunday, 21 May
David,
I will ensure this gets followed up by Ken. CCing the PMC.
Regards,
John
David Jencks wrote:
On Jul 4, 2006, at 4:54 PM, John Sisson wrote:
Matt Hogstrom wrote:
I do not believe the +1's need to be from PMC members but other
committers. This is a snippet from Ken's personal web
If the PMC interpretation stands, does that mean the only privileges
of a committer who's not on the PMC are to commit bug fixes?
Thanks,
Aaron
On 7/2/06, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoa!
I think we have been operation under a different assumption. I know I
committed a patch
On 7/2/06, Aaron Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the PMC interpretation stands, does that mean the only privileges
of a committer who's not on the PMC are to commit bug fixes?
Yes. That's why I and other think it's so painful and *may* slow down
development, but at the same increase mailing
On 7/2/06, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoa!
I think we have been operation under a different assumption. I know I
committed a patch when 1 got 3 committer +1s... And not even 1 PMC member
looked at it. And that took over a week to garner enough votes. Imagine
how long it would
Hi Jacek,On 7/2/06, Jacek Laskowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/2/06, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa! I think we have been operation under a different assumption.I know I committed a patch when 1 got 3 committer +1s...And not even 1 PMC member
looked at it.And that took over a week
Jacek Laskowski wrote:
1/ Be more active and describe the change so that not only are
developers encouraged to test it out or even PMCers. Why is it that
only committers and PMCers vote? Is the description of the change not
easy to understand enough? I wonder what makes them unattractive for
Jacek Laskowski wrote:
On 7/2/06, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoa!
I think we have been operation under a different assumption. I know I
committed a patch when 1 got 3 committer +1s... And not even 1 PMC
member
looked at it. And that took over a week to garner enough votes.
Sadly, I think RTC is shifting Geronimo from being a meritocracy to
being a bureaucracy.
I completely agree with this statement.
And only things get done if you have friends in the PMC. I've seen
several folks say RTC Has been as success, and while yes, it has
increased communicatio, If
On Jul 2, 2006, at 12:43 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:
On 7/2/06, Hiram Chirino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Whoa!
I think we have been operation under a different assumption. I
know I
committed a patch when 1 got 3 committer +1s... And not even 1
PMC member
looked at it. And that took over
Whoa!I think we have been operation under a different assumption. I know I committed a patch when 1 got 3 committer +1s... And not even 1 PMC member looked at it. And that took over a week to garner enough votes. Imagine how long it would take if we had to get 3 PMC +1! I think we need to clear
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