Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-14 Thread Sean Busbey
Responses to several threads below, sorry in advance to folks that with mail readers this will mess up. On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 7:35 PM Andrew Purtell wrote: > > > Some time ago we talked about trying to get back on track for a more > regular cadence of minor releases rather than maintenance

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-14 Thread Andrew Purtell
> Some time ago we talked about trying to get back on track for a more regular cadence of minor releases rather than maintenance releases (like how we did back pre-1.0). That never quite worked out for the HBase 1.y line, This is a bit premature to say never. I've been making steady releases of

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-14 Thread Misty Linville
I’ll start another thread about metrics gathering. On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 8:15 AM Stack wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 8:18 PM Misty Linville wrote: > > > It's not great to guess about things like this. > > We're making a big assumption that our users actually pay attention to > >

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-13 Thread Stack
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 8:18 PM Misty Linville wrote: > It's not great to guess about things like this. > We're making a big assumption that our users actually pay attention to > user@ > or more often dev@ in order to complain about a branch being retired too > quickly in time for us to

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-11 Thread Misty Linville
This makes me wonder if we have, or have a way to get, analytics about the version people are running? It's not great to guess about things like this. We're making a big assumption that our users actually pay attention to user@ or more often dev@ in order to complain about a branch being retired

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-11 Thread Stack
Yes. Was suggesting retiring branch-2.0 and suggesting that we throw the troops against the branch-2.2 flank. Agree though that if there are folks who want more releases, lets do them (please speak up if this is so). 2.0.3 will be good since it close to 2.1.1. Unless demand, 2.0.4 will likely

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-11 Thread Allan Yang
But, since that some users may already have their production system on HBase-2.0.x, maybe we should consider their feelings, they are the 'first movers'. If we retire branch-2.0 so quickly, IIRC, the branch-2.0 will be the shortest life branch ever. I think it will hurt the feeling of those 'first

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-11 Thread Allan Yang
Stack, are you suggest about retiring branch-2.0? I think it is OK, since branch-2.0 is almost the same with branch-2.1 now(except some new feature on replication). Yes, agree that we should help out on branch-2.2. AMv2 changed a lot in branch-2, there may still have some work to do to make

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-11 Thread Stack
Agree w/ Duo that the 2.x releases have been gated on stability watersheds rather than features. What else do we need to add to HBCK2 Duo (apart from a release)? Related, I was going to work on a 2.0.3 release. It has been a while and a bunch of good stability work has made it into branch-2.0.

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-09 Thread Josh Elser
Yes, agreed. My comment was more aimed at getting someone to "sign-up" to do the work, regardless or what branch they're watching. I'd be in favor of trying it out, see how it works. What's the worst that happens, we re-evaluate in three months? :shruggie: On 11/8/18 8:45 PM, Sean Busbey

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-08 Thread Duo Zhang
Oh, typo, 'the make_rc.sh can do everything for you' 张铎(Duo Zhang) 于2018年11月9日周五 上午10:09写道: > I think for the 2.x release the problem is that we are still busy on > making the code stable, or speak more clearly, to make the procedure v2 > framework stable... And another big problem is lacking

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-08 Thread Duo Zhang
I think for the 2.x release the problem is that we are still busy on making the code stable, or speak more clearly, to make the procedure v2 framework stable... And another big problem is lacking of HBCK2 support. These things are all big issues which prevent people to upgrade to 2.x. Once these

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-08 Thread Sean Busbey
I think it just shifts the RM burden, no? Like instead of watching e.g. branch-2.2 I instead need to watch branch-2. On Thu, Nov 8, 2018, 17:28 Josh Elser I think what I'd be concerned about WRT time-based releases is the > burden on RM to keep the branch in a good state. Perhaps we need to not

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-08 Thread Nick Dimiduk
This is an important topic. Thanks for bringing it up. For what it’s worth, I found the “release train” to work pretty well for patch releases from 1.1. That was only possible because of the stability of that branch. After the first couple releases, devs were pretty good about honoring the “bug

Re: [DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-08 Thread Josh Elser
I think what I'd be concerned about WRT time-based releases is the burden on RM to keep the branch in a good state. Perhaps we need to not push that onto an RM and do better about sharing that load (looking in the mirror). However, I do like time-based releases as a means to avoid "hurt

[DISCUSS] Release cadence for HBase 2.y

2018-11-07 Thread Sean Busbey
Hi folks! Some time ago we talked about trying to get back on track for a more regular cadence of minor releases rather than maintenance releases (like how we did back pre-1.0). That never quite worked out for the HBase 1.y line, but is still something we could make happen for HBase 2. We're