Re: network byte ordering in ContentDigest?

2009-12-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Deepak Nagaraj n.dee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The ContentDigest option does not seem to convert the MD5 to network byte order before doing base64 encoding.  The RFC says: It's 16 bytes, what reordering did you want to do? Byte order only applies to stuff larger

Re: network byte ordering in ContentDigest?

2009-12-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Deepak Nagaraj n.dee...@gmail.com wrote: It's 16 bytes, what reordering did you want to do? Byte order only applies to stuff larger than individual bytes. The RFC considers it as a 128-bit digest (=number).  It can be divided into 16 bytes in either host order

Re: network byte ordering in ContentDigest?

2009-12-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Deepak Nagaraj n.dee...@gmail.com wrote: AFAIK that really doesn't apply. It's not an int, it's a 16-byte 'array' that shouldn't be reordered. You're right about MD5.  I checked the MD5-algorithm RFC (1321).  It specifies that the digest is generated in

Re: network byte ordering in ContentDigest?

2009-12-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Deepak Nagaraj n.dee...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Olaf van der Spek olafvds...@gmail.com wrote: But on the other hand, HTTP Content-MD5 header RFC (1864) explicitly mentions network byte ordering as I originally quoted.  Being

Re: svn commit: r885606 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/build/rpm/httpd.init

2009-12-01 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Gregg L. Smith li...@glewis.com wrote: And what is passing for an excuse for a local PCRE install these days probably doesn't look like 7.8 or later, with various fixes we are vulnerable to. Isn't that the responsibility of the distributor? This does not leave

Re: [mod_fcgid] Feedback / Suggestions

2009-11-26 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Edgar Frank ef-li...@email.de wrote: I'd much rather see effort put into mod_proxy_fcgi to support this use case.  I wish somebody, perhaps myself, had time to work on it.  It doesn't seem that hard a task. Just an idea, I though about - what would you think

Re: [mod_fcgid] Feedback / Suggestions

2009-11-25 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Edgar Frank ef-li...@email.de wrote: Maybe, in implementing this in mod_fcgid and making it configurable, Apache can serve more intelligent backends better. Wouldn't it be better to have the backend tell the frontend that it supports this feature? Manual

Re: [mod_fcgid] Feedback / Suggestions

2009-11-25 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Edgar Frank ef-li...@email.de wrote: Wouldn't it be better to have the backend tell the frontend that it supports this feature? Manual configuration should be avoided if possible. Yes, you're right. In a FCGI_GET_VALUES request, the backend can send

Re: [mod_fcgid] Feedback / Suggestions

2009-11-25 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Edgar Frank ef-li...@email.de wrote: 2009/11/25 Olaf van der Spek olafvds...@gmail.com Yes, you're right. In a FCGI_GET_VALUES request, the backend can send arbitrary name-value-pairs. Unfortunately there is no standard way to tell the frontend

Re: [mod_fcgid] Feedback / Suggestions

2009-11-24 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: (1) mod_fcgid should be capable of specifying an external FCGI server. (2) In conjunction with (1), mod_fcgid should be able to select the backend server based on request data. I'd much rather see effort put into

Re: [mod_fcgid] Feedback / Suggestions

2009-11-24 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: What was the reason to import mod_fcgi again? Wasn't the ETA of mod_proxy_fcgi too high? mod_fcgid was imported because it was * widely used * not actively maintained * httpd developers were willing to adopt it I felt

Re: [mod_fcgid] Feedback / Suggestions

2009-11-24 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM, pqf p...@mailtech.cn wrote: In this case, one httpd thread(process) will have to bind to one FastCGI process. I don't think connect() to a local pipe/unix domain socket is the bottle-neck, so let it be? Doesn't it require an extra round trip? It's probably

Re: [mod_fcgid] Feedback / Suggestions

2009-11-24 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Jeff Trawick traw...@gmail.com wrote: What advantages does fcgid have over proxy_fcgi (except being ready)? integrated, on-demand process management How valuable is that? In most cases a static number of backends seems fine. mod_fcgid isn't in 2.2, right?

Re: Is async the answer?

2008-01-28 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Jan 25, 2008 6:18 PM, Akins, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/08 3:14 PM, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Working on making a FastCGI based setup the recommended approach instead of mod_php is probably more important then async. Actually, it's a prerequisite. Fastcgi

Re: Is async the answer?

2008-01-28 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Jan 28, 2008 8:04 PM, Eric Covener [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 12:36 PM, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 25, 2008 6:18 PM, Akins, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/24/08 3:14 PM, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Working on making

Re: Is async the answer?

2008-01-28 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Jan 28, 2008 9:22 PM, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ faq.installation.php#faq.installation.apache2 If you feel you have to use a threaded MPM, look at a FastCGI configuration where PHP is running in its own memory space. Is that what is meant

Re: Is async the answer?

2008-01-28 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On Jan 28, 2008 9:57 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek wrote: I agree that FastCGI is the better technical solution, I'm just stating that neither the Apache documentation nor the PHP documentation seems to state that. Even worse, they hardly document

Re: Is async the answer?

2008-01-24 Thread Olaf van der Spek
We were using normal worker MPM with keepalives for this test. The current stable event would have helped with idle keepalive threads, but the system didn't seem to care. But when using mod_php, worker is not recommended, right? I doubt prefork scales as well as worker. Working on making a

Re: Large file support in 2.0.56?

2006-04-16 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 4/16/06, Joost de Heer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 10:28:10PM +0200, Joost de Heer wrote: hmmm...that doesn't help me much. I'm more interested in large files in mod_dav. Right now I can't upload anything much bigger than 700MB. IMO, that's

Re: What do you want in HTTPD 2.4/3.0/X/GREEN?

2005-12-04 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 12/4/05, Ian Holsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Garrett Rooney wrote: On 12/3/05, Ian Holsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also like to brainstorm a better solution to running Rails/Django applications inside of the httpd process than the SCGI/FastCGI solution which most people use.

Re: Directions for Win32 binary httpd

2005-12-03 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 12/3/05, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that most of the communites are still in VC 6. Remember the key reason we keep using it, MS dropped support for exporting makefiles. With no makefiles, you are roped into supporting only version x or newer Studio products.

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/30/05, Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 11:01:55AM -0500, Paul A Houle wrote: So if one uses worker and few processes (i.e. lots of threads per), then Solaris should be fine? That's what people think, but I'd like to see some numbers.

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-30 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/30/05, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:43:24PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: It was hardly nobody, I may be shoddily inexperienced with the win32 port, but I did go to the trouble of testing apr-iconv on win32

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/29/05, Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Querna wrote: These tarballs are Identical to 2.1.10 except for two changes: * include/ap_release.h Updated to be 2.2.0-release * The root directory was changed from httpd-2.1.10 to httpd-2.2.0 Okay, I lied, slightly: Shouldn't the

Re: [vote] 2.2.0 tarballs

2005-11-29 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/29/05, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:28:43AM -0500, Jim Jagielski wrote: I would agree, as long as we remove it for the What's New pages until it actually works and builds. My point, obviously, was that we can't have it both ways and say

Any 'official' Apache FastCGI-like alternative planned?

2005-11-27 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Hi, I've been wondering, do the Apache developers plan to develop and/or include an official FastCGI-like module in Apache? I know there's for example AJP but that appears to be aimed specifically at Java. An official module would be handy so that PHP can be run in separate processes without

Re: Any 'official' Apache FastCGI-like alternative planned?

2005-11-27 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/27/05, Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek wrote: Hi, I've been wondering, do the Apache developers plan to develop and/or include an official FastCGI-like module in Apache? I know there's for example AJP but that appears to be aimed specifically at Java

Re: Any 'official' Apache FastCGI-like alternative planned?

2005-11-27 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/27/05, Nick Kew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 27 November 2005 22:11, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Hi, I've been wondering, do the Apache developers plan to develop and/or include an official FastCGI-like module in Apache? Nope. There's the old mod_fastcgi and the more up

Re: Any 'official' Apache FastCGI-like alternative planned?

2005-11-27 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/28/05, Nick Kew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 27 November 2005 23:09, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Nope. There's the old mod_fastcgi and the more up-to-date mod_fcgid out there. Why does the world need another? But not in the official Apache distribution. How

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/3/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new data to provide on this front that's great and very welcome, please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bugzilla is not a discussion

Re: [VOTE] 2.1.10 as GA

2005-11-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/21/05, Brad Nicholes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +1 for beta status on NetWare. This will probably also be a +1 for GA as well as long as nothing significant turns up over the next several days of testing. Will there be (beta) Windows binaries available before it become GA? I wouldn't

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/21/05, Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 11/3/05, Olaf van der Spek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new data to provide on this front that's great

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/22/05, Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is that needed? Wouldn't changing the default configuration not affect existing sites as those keep their existing configuration? Yes. But I still have not seen a very clear statement that this configuration is no longer needed in

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-06 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/5/05, Marc Stern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a bit more complex than that. At a certain point, a fix was released for IE 6 to correct the incompatibility that needed the 'ssl-unclean-shutdown' directive (I guess it's KB 831167). At this point, we had two different flavours of IE+SSL

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-04 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/4/05, Joe Orton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 03:37:10PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new data to provide on this front that's great and very welcome

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-03 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new data to provide on this front that's great and very welcome, please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bugzilla is not a discussion or support forum, however. I've been running without

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-03 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/3/05, Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 November 2005 09:37 am, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new data to provide on this front that's great and very welcome, please

Re: How long until 2.2

2005-08-09 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 8/9/05, Ian Holsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cost of devoting a senior engineer for the next month or two to help 'field test' apache 2.2 in a high scale environment, identifying and submitting patches to 2.2 is Y. Just wondering, when will Win32 binaries of 2.1/2.2 be available for

Re: endless loop trying to create ssl_scache (2.0.54)

2005-05-23 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 5/22/05, Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stat64(/var/run/apache2/ssl_scache, 0xb8a0) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open(/var/run/apache2/__db.ssl_scache, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL| O_LARGEFILE, 0644) = -1 EEXIST (File exists) /var/run/apache2/ssl_scache

Re: Single-threaded/non-blocking frontend and multi-threaded/processed backend

2005-05-10 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 4/13/05, Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek wrote: Hi, I originally posted this feature request to the bug tracker, but Joe Orton suggested it'd post it here instead, so here it is. I'd like to see a new 'MPM' that basically works like this: A single or few

Re: Single-threaded/non-blocking frontend and multi-threaded/processed backend

2005-05-10 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 5/10/05, Phillip Susi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why have a separate 'frontend' and 'backend'? Because for example PHP is not thread-safe and PHP may (easily) crash (and you don't wish to allow that to crash the entire server). Or because you wish to run one backend as user A and another

Re: Post-2.2 Thoughts

2005-05-08 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 5/8/05, Phillip Susi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this idea. I think one of the best and most important things that apache is doing these days is trying to migrate away from being a web server and towards a generic server platform. Eventually I would like to be able to run apache to

Re: mod_cache caching the 301 Moved Permanently

2005-04-21 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 4/22/05, Justin Erenkrantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 10:04:54AM +0530, Devendra Singh wrote: Hi, I am writing to the Developer List because I did not get any response on the Users List and thought that the topic might be relevant to the dev list. If a request

Re: Reading byte to byte from client request

2005-04-20 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 4/20/05, Ivan Barrera A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no chance ? Why not use the time since the start of the request instead?

Re: Reading byte to byte from client request

2005-04-20 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 4/20/05, Ivan Barrera A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 4/20/05, Ivan Barrera A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no chance ? Why not use the time since the start of the request instead? Ok.. i tought about that, but the problem arises when i need to check every

Re: Single-threaded/non-blocking frontend and multi-threaded/processed backend

2005-04-15 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 4/13/05, Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf van der Spek wrote: Hi, I originally posted this feature request to the bug tracker, but Joe Orton suggested it'd post it here instead, so here it is. I'd like to see a new 'MPM' that basically works like this: A single or few

Single-threaded/non-blocking frontend and multi-threaded/processed backend

2005-04-12 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Hi, I originally posted this feature request to the bug tracker, but Joe Orton suggested it'd post it here instead, so here it is. I'd like to see a new 'MPM' that basically works like this: A single or few-threaded, non-blocking frontend that accepts incoming connections, receives requests and