Re: 2.0.37-dev/Solaris-8/sparc-v9

2002-06-06 Thread jean-frederic clere
Jeff Trawick wrote: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to attempt to build Apache 2.0.37-dev at 64 bits with the Sun C compiler (kindly donated by Sun), on Nagoya (worker MPM). Anything I should be aware of? I'll report back on how the baby flies (if it does)... There is

server start's warnings on stop?

2002-06-06 Thread Stas Bekman
Hmm, why do I get this warning on stop: WARNING: MaxClients (10) is not an integer multiple of ThreadsPerChild (3), lowering MaxClients to 9 for a maximum of 3 child processes, httpd (no pid file) not running I do get it on start as well, which is expected, but why on stop?

Re: 2.0.37-dev/Solaris-8/sparc-v9

2002-06-06 Thread jean-frederic clere
Ian Holsman wrote: jean-frederic clere wrote: Jeff Trawick wrote: Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm about to attempt to build Apache 2.0.37-dev at 64 bits with the Sun C compiler (kindly donated by Sun), on Nagoya (worker MPM). Anything I should be aware of? I'll report

Re: 2.0.37-dev/Solaris-8/sparc-v9

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Bannert
BTW.. you do know that 64bit programs take a ~10% hit in performance don't you? Why's this? -aaron

Re: server start's warnings on stop?

2002-06-06 Thread Stas Bekman
Jeff Trawick wrote: Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm, why do I get this warning on stop: WARNING: MaxClients (10) is not an integer multiple of ThreadsPerChild (3), lowering MaxClients to 9 for a maximum of 3 child processes, httpd (no pid file) not running I do get it on

Performance of Apache 2.0 Filter

2002-06-06 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
A user posted [1] a benchmark today in the German PHP Newsgroup [2] stating that Apache 2.0 and PHP (current HEAD) are about 20% slower than Apache 1.3. Are there any official benchmarks out there? I can't quite believe this... -- [1] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2]

Re: 2.0.37-dev/Solaris-8/sparc-v9

2002-06-06 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Ian Holsman wrote: BTW.. you do know that 64bit programs take a ~10% hit in performance don't you? The JVM seems a lot faster (perceived performance, no actual data on hand) at 64 bits rather than 32... Pier

Re: Performance of Apache 2.0 Filter

2002-06-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: A user posted [1] a benchmark today in the German PHP Newsgroup [2] stating that Apache 2.0 and PHP (current HEAD) are about 20% slower than Apache 1.3. Are there any official benchmarks out there? I can't quite believe this... None

Re: Performance of Apache 2.0 Filter

2002-06-06 Thread Brian Pane
Cliff Woolley wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: A user posted [1] a benchmark today in the German PHP Newsgroup [2] stating that Apache 2.0 and PHP (current HEAD) are about 20% slower than Apache 1.3. Are there any official benchmarks out there? I can't quite

Re: 2.0.37-dev/Solaris-8/sparc-v9

2002-06-06 Thread Eli Marmor
Aaron Bannert wrote: BTW.. you do know that 64bit programs take a ~10% hit in performance don't you? Why's this? Because of various reasons. Maybe the major of them, is the size of used memory: Memory usage is higher, because of default sizes of various types, alignments, etc. I/O is

Conditional GET handling with filters.

2002-06-06 Thread Joshua Slive
I got myself into a bug that is way over my head: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9673 It seems that conditional GET (If-Modified-Since) is not working at all correctly with output filters. If someone wants to take a look, please have at it. Joshua.

Re: Conditional GET handling with filters.

2002-06-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 05:15:33PM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Joshua Slive wrote: I got myself into a bug that is way over my head: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9673 It seems that conditional GET (If-Modified-Since) is not working at all

Re: Conditional GET handling with filters.

2002-06-06 Thread Joshua Slive
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Joshua Slive wrote: I got myself into a bug that is way over my head: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9673 It seems that conditional GET (If-Modified-Since) is not working at all correctly with output

Re: performance results apache 1.3 vs 2.0

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 03:25:01PM -0600, Jean-Jacques Clar wrote: Here are results done on a 4 x 450Mhz server with 1 Gb of RAM, 1 SysKonnect Gb LAN. The tests were done using WebBench with 26 clients and 1 controller running the default static test. The OS is Linux RH 7.3 and Apache 2.0 is

Re: performance results apache 1.3 vs 2.0

2002-06-06 Thread Jean-Jacques Clar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/06/02 03:33PM On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 03:25:01PM -0600, Jean-Jacques Clar wrote: Here are results done on a 4 x 450Mhz server with 1 Gb of RAM, 1 SysKonnect Gb LAN. The tests were done using WebBench with 26 clients and 1 controller running the default static test. The

Re: performance results apache 1.3 vs 2.0

2002-06-06 Thread Brian Pane
Jean-Jacques Clar wrote: I tried to build 2.0 with the worker and the perchild model but it seg faults all the time. Is anyone as RH7.3 working binaries of 2.0.36 I could use to run the same suite of tests? Maybe I could make more pretty neat graphs. I recommend using 2.0.37 (either one

[PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Thom May
Mostly because I've been running threadpool for a while and the lack of this support was getting annoying. Cheers, -Thom -- Thom May - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICANN has been making all their meetings closed door so nobody can see that they've been spending the majority of their budget on crack...

RE: Conditional GET handling with filters.

2002-06-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 05:15:33PM -0400, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Joshua Slive wrote: I got myself into a bug that is way over my head: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9673 It seems that

Re: [PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Brian Pane
Thom May wrote: Mostly because I've been running threadpool for a while and the lack of this support was getting annoying. Cheers, -Thom I've actually been thinking that it's time to remove threadpool and leader/follower, because all the improvements that we developed in those experimental

Re: [PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:23:05PM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: I've actually been thinking that it's time to remove threadpool and leader/follower, because all the improvements that we developed in those experimental MPMs have been incorporated into worker as of 2.0.37. But if you have a setup

Re: [PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Aaron Bannert wrote: I think it's useful to have these alternative designs in our experimental category, and I'm willing to maintain the threadpool MPM. If anything I'd like to keep them around to help foster ideas about other potential MPMs. +1 to hanging onto them for

Re: [PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Brian Pane
Cliff Woolley wrote: On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Aaron Bannert wrote: I think it's useful to have these alternative designs in our experimental category, and I'm willing to maintain the threadpool MPM. If anything I'd like to keep them around to help foster ideas about other potential MPMs.

Re: [PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:44:15PM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: Fair enough; I'll commit the -k patch. If the goal is to encourage thinking about other potential MPMs, though, then IMHO the right solution is to add an empty server/mpm/experimental/event-loop directory :-) I'd *love* to see

Re: [PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:51:10PM -0700, Aaron Bannert wrote: I'd *love* to see progress on something like this, but whenver I start thinking about this kind of a MPM I run into the problem where brigades (or filter chains) can't be multiplexed over. Is this what you have in mind? (Let's get

Re: Conditional GET handling with filters.

2002-06-06 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:11:12PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: If you delay calling ap_meets_conditions, then you are going to slow down the server. Think about the easiest case, default_handler and mod_deflate. The default_handler grabs a file from the disk and sends it to mod_deflate, which

ap_discard_request_body Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2002-06-06 Thread Brian Pane
Ryan Bloom wrote: For the limits stuff, we need to decide if we want to return 413 if the server doesn't care about the request. For example, default_handler always just discards the request body, so is it an error if the user sends 100 Meg of data with a request that is just going to ignore

RE: [PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:44:15PM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: Fair enough; I'll commit the -k patch. If the goal is to encourage thinking about other potential MPMs, though, then IMHO the right solution is to add an empty server/mpm/experimental/event-loop directory :-) I'd *love* to

RE: [PATCH] Enable -k for threadpool MPM

2002-06-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:51:10PM -0700, Aaron Bannert wrote: I'd *love* to see progress on something like this, but whenver I start thinking about this kind of a MPM I run into the problem where brigades (or filter chains) can't be

Re: ap_discard_request_body

2002-06-06 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 05:10:58PM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: Ryan Bloom wrote: For the limits stuff, we need to decide if we want to return 413 if the server doesn't care about the request. For example, default_handler always just discards the request body, so is it an error if the user

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2002-06-06 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 12:59:03AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jerenkrantz2002/06/06 17:59:03 Modified:.STATUS Log: Clarify note on ap_discard_request_body(). If we want to change it, we should do it before .37 - hence its remaining as a showstopper. Why

Re: ap_discard_request_body

2002-06-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Greg Stein wrote: On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 05:10:58PM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: Ryan Bloom wrote: For the limits stuff, we need to decide if we want to return 413 if the server doesn't care about the request. For example, default_handler always just discards the

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2002-06-06 Thread Ryan Bloom
++1 to everthing in this e-mail. Thank you Greg, you have just stated everything that I have been thinking for sometime. Remember when I tagged 2.0.33? I did that without any notice to prove that it could be done without a four week discussion on-list. Granted, we didn't release that

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2002-06-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Ryan Bloom wrote: So... why a showstopper? Why hold up .37? Let's hear it. Guys, chill. If I could have released .37 last week, don't you think I would have? But the damned thing wouldn't even work on Windows until mere days ago. So now it's tidy up a few issues and .37

httpd HEAD running on icarus

2002-06-06 Thread Cliff Woolley
As of 12:15am or so EDT as 2.0.37-dev4. I'll keep an eye on it, but please let me know if you see any unusual behavior. --Cliff

[STATUS] (flood) Wed Jun 5 23:45:26 EDT 2002

2002-06-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
flood STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2002/01/17 01:09:45 $] Release: milestone-04: In development milestone-03: Tagged January 16, 2002 ASF-transfer: Released July 17, 2001 milestone-02: Tagged August 13, 2001

[STATUS] (perl-framework) Wed Jun 5 23:45:27 EDT 2002

2002-06-06 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
httpd-test/perl-framework STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2002/03/09 05:22:48 $] Stuff to do: * finish the t/TEST exit code issue (ORed with 0x2C if framework failed) * change existing tests that frob the DocumentRoot (e.g.,