Re: RFC for a Perchild-like-MPM

2004-11-18 Thread Andrew Stribblehill
Quoting Ivan Ristic [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-11-17 17:31:39 GMT): Paul Querna wrote: I have had an idea for replacing the perchild MPM boggling around inside my head for awhile now. This is an idea for a different architecture to allowing different UIDs to serve httpd requests. I am

Re: RFC for a Perchild-like-MPM

2004-11-18 Thread Ivan Ristic
Andrew Stribblehill wrote: Quoting Ivan Ristic [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2004-11-17 17:31:39 GMT): Paul Querna wrote: I have had an idea for replacing the perchild MPM boggling around inside my head for awhile now. This is an idea for a different architecture to allowing different UIDs to serve

Re: Fwd: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-18 Thread Brad Nicholes
Taking a snapshot look at the STATUS file at any given point in time does not show the actual problem. The problem is the delay in getting from point A (submitting a proposal) to point B (approval for backport). For a hot issue with many interested parties (who actually hold voting rights),

People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Graham Leggett
Hi all, I've been keen to do some digging for reasons why someone might need to install httpd v1.3 instead of v2.0 or later. Support for mod_backhand seems to be a significant reason (and getting backhand ported to v2.0 would be a win): Apart from backhand, are there in the experience of the

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Nathanael Noblet
On Nov 18, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: Hi all, I've been keen to do some digging for reasons why someone might need to install httpd v1.3 instead of v2.0 or later. Support for mod_backhand seems to be a significant reason (and getting backhand ported to v2.0 would be a win): Apart

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Amaury Jacquot
On Thu, 2004-11-18 at 13:43 -0600, Graham Leggett wrote: Hi all, I've been keen to do some digging for reasons why someone might need to install httpd v1.3 instead of v2.0 or later. Support for mod_backhand seems to be a significant reason (and getting backhand ported to v2.0 would be a

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Ivan Ristic
Nathanael Noblet wrote: On Nov 18, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: Hi all, I've been keen to do some digging for reasons why someone might need to install httpd v1.3 instead of v2.0 or later. Support for mod_backhand seems to be a significant reason (and getting backhand

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Jeffrey Burgoyne
Interesting question. I have just done a large scale review of our web server architecture and have recommended a move to 2.0. There were a number of factors for not moving, both specific to our installation as well as in general. In general : Remeber the old adage If it is not broke, do not fix

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
A can think of 4 big reasons, two from a developer standpoint and two from an admin. developer: 1. Builds and compiles in a minute, rather than several. This means you can play around and develop more and compile less. 2. More streamlined design; for some filters,

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Ivan Ristic
Jim Jagielski wrote: A can think of 4 big reasons, two from a developer standpoint and two from an admin. developer: 1. Builds and compiles in a minute, rather than several. This means you can play around and develop more and compile less. 2. More streamlined

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Nathanael Noblet
On Nov 18, 2004, at 12:16 PM, Ivan Ristic wrote: Jim Jagielski wrote: A can think of 4 big reasons, two from a developer standpoint and two from an admin. developer: 1. Builds and compiles in a minute, rather than several. This means you can play around and develop more and compile

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Matthieu Estrade
I think people rely on apache 1.3 stability and security. many people consider httpd-2.0 as too young and don't try to understand why it's better. Does somebody have some percentage about 1.3 use and 2.0 ? I don't think 1.3 is still here because of modules, there is too many modules and too

RE: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Brett Lentz \(Excell Data Corporation\)
Please don't forget: 1. Solaris 10 is shipping with 1.3.31 2. OpenBSD's fork of 1.3 --Brett. Systems Administrator, RHCE -Original Message- From: Graham Leggett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: People still using v1.3

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Matthieu Estrade
Brett Lentz (Excell Data Corporation) wrote: Please don't forget: 1. Solaris 10 is shipping with 1.3.31 Redhat is shipping 2.0 for long time now 2. OpenBSD's fork of 1.3 openbsd and the theocracy ?? hahaha cool let them continue with 1.3 --Brett. Systems Administrator, RHCE -Original

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Ian Holsman
Matthieu Estrade wrote: I think people rely on apache 1.3 stability and security. many people consider httpd-2.0 as too young and don't try to understand why it's better. Does somebody have some percentage about 1.3 use and 2.0 ? I don't think 1.3 is still here because of modules, there is too

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:53 PM 11/18/2004, Nathanael Noblet wrote: On Nov 18, 2004, at 11:43 AM, Graham Leggett wrote: I've been keen to do some digging for reasons why someone might need to install httpd v1.3 instead of v2.0 or later. I think there is still a thought that php isn't mature on 2.x. (I'm using it)

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Jeff White
From: Graham Leggett are there in the experience of the people on this list any other significant apps out there that are keeping people from deploying httpd v2.x? Because there can only be one number one! ASF told them over and over again that it is number one. (rightly or not) The

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Wayne S. Frazee
Personally, I have seen some hosting providers which I have talked to (and worked with) hold back because existing client's htaccess scripts sometimes experience quirks under 2.0. In one case I have been privvy to, a test implementation was done with a server that was practically a replica of

Re: Fwd: Re: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-18 Thread Astrid Keßler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, November 16, 2004 4:29:31 PM * Brad Nicholes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During ApacheCon several httpd PMC members got together to discuss current issues with the httpd project and to try to find better ways to manage the project. One of the issues that was

Re: Fwd: Re: [PROPOSAL-VOTE] Adopt lazy consensus for backports...

2004-11-18 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Friday, November 19, 2004 12:41 AM +0100 Astrid Keßler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Additionally, let's do 2.1 tarballs to bring the current development branch to a wider group of devs and testers. I plan to roll 2.1.1 as soon as the final import finishes: roughly a few hours from now. ;-)

Re: RFC for a Perchild-like-MPM

2004-11-18 Thread Max Bowsher
Quoting Ivan Ristic ivanr webkreator com (2004-11-17 17:31:39 GMT): I've used FastCGI to give individual users their own PHP engines (since PHP now comes with FastCGI protocol support built-in). This sounds useful - would you be willing to share some config file samples? Max.

Re: People still using v1.3 - finding out why

2004-11-18 Thread Leif W
Graham Leggett , Thursday, November 18, 2004 14:43Hi all, I've been keen to do some digging for reasons why someone might need to install httpd v1.3 instead of v2.0 or later. I have no idea. Stupidity, laziness, fear of change. Maybe it's modules. The bandwidth throttling module might be a

RE: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

2004-11-18 Thread Larry Toppi
Title: RE: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion Sweet! I would vote to move it up one level. Thanks, Larry. -Original Message- From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:37 PM To: CLI Dev Subject: Re: [NOTICE] Subversion conversion

Re: httpmodule bug

2004-11-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 04:52 PM 11/18/2004, Yussef Alkhamrichi wrote: I've gone into the code and the only thing I can image that occurs is that the web.config of one virtual directory is configured twice for the same AppDomain. Again, I'm curious, is one a child directory of another mount? Either physical or

[STATUS] (flood) Wed Nov 17 23:46:17 EST 2004

2004-11-18 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
flood STATUS: -*-text-*- Last modified at [$Date: 2003/07/01 20:55:12 $] Release: 1.0: Released July 23, 2002 milestone-03: Tagged January 16, 2002 ASF-transfer: Released July 17, 2001 milestone-02: Tagged August 13,