Re: Bug report for Apache httpd-2 [2006/10/08]

2006-10-09 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-09-10 at 09:24 +0100, Nick Kew wrote: On Monday 09 October 2006 07:53, Boyle Owen wrote: Hi all, Speaking as an apache user (not developer) who merely lurks on this list, is it appropriate for me to question the formatting (and hence usefulness) of this periodic report?

Re: [Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Killing apache child processes and logging (how to stop serving request?)]

2006-10-11 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2006-11-10 at 13:51 +0300, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote: Sometimes I need to kill an apache child process serving large file before request is completed. I run kill -SIGTERM HTTPD_PID, the child dies and transfer is stopped but nothing is written in access log. I don't know the answer

Re: mod_disk_cache summarization

2006-10-27 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Fri, 2006-27-10 at 23:33 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: Different VHosts meaning different URLs/directories, pointing to the same files... Hmm... Two thoughts come into my head over this one. One way to approach this is to treat this as a general problem of how do we stop people

Re: How the PHP works?

2006-11-13 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-13-11 at 22:54 +0100, Joachim Zobel wrote: Am Montag, den 13.11.2006, 21:39 +0100 schrieb Toni Pizà: I will try to read the code of mod_php in ordrer to understand how the CGI relates the server web and the php interpreter! If you want to look at a webservers source code to

Re: Eliminating absolute paths on installation

2006-12-13 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2006-13-12 at 13:16 +0100, Paul Fee wrote: This is a problem for me as the install location is not always known at build time. Also, if I give someone a built version of httpd, they can not install it multiple times on one host due to the absolute paths. Why do they need more than

Re: Eliminating absolute paths on installation

2006-12-13 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2006-13-12 at 17:30 +0100, Paul Fee wrote: - Original Message - From: Guy Hulbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Why do they need more than one ? snip Hi Guy, The main motivation is that I don't want to dictate install location to people that are using my builds of httpd

Re: process the request

2007-01-09 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2007-09-01 at 13:40 +, 张 臻博 wrote: hello I am reading the code of apache. Is there anybody who knows whether ap_run_pre_connection() and ap_run_process_connection() are functions or macro? and where is the definition for those two , as i can not find any detailed code for

Re: process the request

2007-01-09 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Tue, 2007-09-01 at 14:03 +, 张 臻博 wrote: hi, Acturally, from APR, you can not find any hint for those two. As you search from this place: http://docx.itscales.com/annotated.html you can not find the link for those two anyone knows where can find the source code or some

perchild

2006-07-09 Thread Guy Hulbert
I'm looking at perchild with the aim of getting it working. In STATUS I see: Get perchild to work on platforms other than Linux. This will require a portable mechanism to pass data and file/socket descriptors between vhost child groups. But I am lead to believe (from the users list) that it

Re: perchild

2006-07-10 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2006-09-07 at 19:30 -0700, Paul Querna wrote: Guy Hulbert wrote: I'm looking at perchild with the aim of getting it working. snip Yes. It could be broken on linux and all other platforms. If someone else is working on it then I will focus on testing it. No one is working

Re: how to unsubscribe from here

2006-07-17 Thread Guy Hulbert
To remove your address from the list, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 2006-17-07 at 20:07 -0400, sarvothaman vittal wrote: snip --gh

Re: urgent need ur help!!

2006-07-26 Thread Guy Hulbert
Sridevi. This is entirely the wrong place to post this. This is what you want: http://httpd.apache.org/userslist.html Here is the central page which describes which lists to use: http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html If you speak better German than English, there is a German version of the

Re: [Vote] product name - for shipping versions

2006-07-29 Thread Guy Hulbert
I don't think I'm eligible to vote but I would point out that in the third name the 'd' in 'httpd' is redundant if you append 'Server'. On Sat, 2006-29-07 at 13:54 -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: [ ] httpd [ ] Apache httpd [ ] Apache httpd Server [ ] Apache HTTP Server [ ]

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 10:08 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: I'm trying to figure out which impl of the the LB cluster set makes the most sense and would appreciate the feedback. snip Comments? Are you implementing load balancing/clustering in Apache HTTP Server ? Why ? -- --gh

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 11:18 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: Why ? People want it. Thought so :-( -- --gh

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 16:54 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: Why ? Because it's useful? Nope. Load balancing really belongs at the network layer. IBM released free load-balancing software for linux and windows about 1997. My former employer's integration group (about 3 people) got a fully

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 17:42 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: On Mon, July 31, 2006 5:32 pm, Guy Hulbert wrote: People want it. Thought so :-( Why the :-(...? httpd tries to deliver what people will find useful, and load balancing is a very useful part of a multi tier webserver

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 12:04 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: Nope. Load balancing really belongs at the network layer. snip But, I suppose, if people want it ... People want to simplify things. The simple solution is to buy a bigger piece of hardware or outsource the problem to the

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
/clustering to software projects seems to be popular (i know of others :-) lately ... it seems like the idea that every end-user application adds features until it can do email. On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 18:26 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: On Mon, July 31, 2006 6:16 pm, Guy Hulbert wrote: At the network

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
I didn't read this very carefully. On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 18:26 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: I'm sure they can. This doesn't make them the right solution for all cases. In a multi tier architecture, you already have front end servers implementing URL strategies, common logging, all sorts of

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 18:31 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: I get the sense that you would rather the developers scratch your itch Their itch is not a problem for me ... and it isn't something I would necessarily use apache for ... though for a small to medium scale setup it might be very useful.

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 12:50 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: My only interest in this is you are putting all the additional complexity into the Apache server. Considering the very common usage of Apache being used as a reverse proxy and the need for URL-specific forwarding, adding a

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 17:30 +0100, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Either way, the more options and the more flexibility, the better. This is not true. There is always a limit. The difficult part is to know when you've reached it, of course. Also, it is a design choice. For example, perl (TMOWTDI)

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 19:00 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: On Mon, July 31, 2006 6:39 pm, Guy Hulbert wrote: I already accept that this seems to fait-accomplis. So I am just arguing for entertainment purposes. Which in turn means you're just wasting people's time. It's your choice

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 13:05 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: One reason for a generic scoreboard would be to help make perchild easier, since we could store the passed fd's in this location alleviating some of the current problems. Thanks. I've seen all the traffic on the scoreboard and this is

Re: Scoreboard was Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 13:21 -0400, Brian Akins wrote: I've seen all the traffic on the scoreboard and this is very useful context ... Also, I am using a similar scoreboard mechanism to collect lots of per worker stats without the extendedstatus overhead. I've been following discussion

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 19:34 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: On Mon, July 31, 2006 6:43 pm, Guy Hulbert wrote: This seems reasonable. Given paragraph 2 (URL strategies etc) Not for the reasons I've omitted (and responded to separately). However, I still don't think this will scale the way

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 19:34 +0200, Graham Leggett wrote: Users of mod_backhand (for httpd v1.3) would disagree, it's a similar Greenspun: http://philip.greenspun.com/scratch/scaling.adp Asks the right question: How are load balancers actually built? and suggests: zeus, mod_backhand,

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 13:54 -0400, Brian Akins wrote: Guy Hulbert wrote: That's the ultimate case, after all :-) Not necessarily. Google's answer is to throw tons of hardware at stuff. The point of contention was scalability ... from a human point of view it is really annoying to have

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 14:02 -0400, Garrett Rooney wrote: On 7/31/06, Guy Hulbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 13:54 -0400, Brian Akins wrote: Guy Hulbert wrote: That's the ultimate case, after all :-) Not necessarily. Google's answer is to throw tons of hardware

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 20:15 +0200, Rainer Jung wrote: So in principle most can be done on both sides, but often it's the experience of the people, that decides on where to actually build the solution. Yup. I did both solutions successfully and even had companies move from on to the

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-07-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
FWIW, this seems much more likely: http://www.ultramonkey.org/about.shtml In particular: http://www.ultramonkey.org/3/installation-debian.sarge.html On Mon, 2006-31-07 at 14:29 -0400, Guy Hulbert wrote: It seems that linux router is the wrong name. Here is the correct project: http

Re: load balancer cluster set

2006-08-07 Thread Guy Hulbert
[ I had given up this thread but since I started it ... ] Apart from minor details I agree with this comment anyway. On Mon, 2006-07-08 at 13:48 +0200, Klaus Wagner wrote: snip on Cisco gear (and others) within about 6 months. I'm sure the price for proprietary hardware has dropped

Re: Tracking CGI Exec Calls

2006-08-11 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Fri, 2006-11-08 at 13:15 +0200, Silvio Mazzaro wrote: Hi all, I'm searching for a method to track calls to other programs by Perl Scripts (or other CGI) in a Virtual Host Environment. What is the problem you are trying to solve ? For example I'd like to know what script is calling

Re: Tracking CGI Exec Calls

2006-08-11 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Fri, 2006-11-08 at 09:47 -0400, Joshua Slive wrote: On 8/11/06, Silvio Mazzaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guy Hulbert wrote: What is the problem you are trying to solve ? I'd like to know who's using sendmail from the Web. snip Perhaps It is possible to track system calls from

Re: How to detect the mpm used via apxs?

2006-08-19 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sat, 2006-19-08 at 10:18 -0300, Davi Arnaut wrote: Em 19/08/2006, às 07:55, Mladen Turk escreveu: Hi, Anyone knows how to detect the mpm used so that module can be build with/without threading code depending if the mpm is prefork or any other threaded one like worker by using

Re: CGI Script Source Code Disclosure Vulnerability in Apache for Windows

2006-08-20 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Sun, 2006-20-08 at 08:36 -0400, Joshua Slive wrote: But why is there the Directive ScriptAlias? -- This Directive should then better be removed. It could easily be removed. It is a convenience directive for the Not if you don't want to annoy your users ... -- --gh

Documentation

2006-08-26 Thread Guy Hulbert
Hi all. I am getting a little more serious about working on the perchild mpm. Before I start, I would like some documentation at the level of the example below but with a more global perspective. If none exists, then I will put something together. I understand there are lists for apr and for

Re: perchild

2006-08-30 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Wed, 2006-30-08 at 23:02 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Guy Hulbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-30-08 at 12:59 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Guy Hulbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm looking at perchild with the aim of getting it working. maybe you're

Re: perchild

2006-08-31 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Thu, 2006-31-08 at 13:37 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Guy Hulbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok. I have the patch against 2.0.48 ... I will see what I can do with it. Yeah, it's quite old. But perhaps you can get it into current 2.2. Please give us feedback. It is not clear

Re: perchild

2006-09-02 Thread Guy Hulbert
On Thu, 2006-31-08 at 16:21 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Guy Hulbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It is not clear to me yet whether I should work on metux or perchild. Unless I missed some major redesign in perchild, you should drop it. It has some design flaws which make