Re: httpd 1.3 running processes mem usage
Thanks so much. We've got much less confusion about this now. Good link, btw. On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 13:07, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: [...] Linux uses optimistic memory allocation. Therefore, vmSize will be what has been asked for, but may not be allocated (or is swapped to disk). vmEXE will most likely be shared across all of the httpd processes (copy on write). I'd be most concerned about vmRSS which is the resident memory size - it is how much is in physical memory. I Feel Lucky on RSS memory size yields: https://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2002-February/msg01128.html That has a bit more information. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coremetrics, Inc.
httpd 1.3 running processes mem usage
If I have a Linux server using httpd 1.3 and has 1GB ram and has 1012 httpd processes. When I look at that process's ram stats, I have a vmSize of say 7032KB, vmRSS of 2056KB, and vmEXE of 2072KB. Is the size I'm most concerned with when looking at per/process memory utilization going to be vmSize? We're trying to tune our servers a bit better until we're ready to move to httpd2, which will sometime at the beginning of 2004. But help around this diagnosis would be appreciated. TIA. -- Austin Gonyou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coremetrics, Inc.
Quick question.
Anyone ever seen a browser report Error -12263 when connecting to apache via SSL? I've never seen this error, and we've never gotten it before, so I was curious. TIA. -- Austin Gonyou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coremetrics, Inc.
Re: mod_rewrite improved?
Should mod_include/mod_rewrite become a merge at some point or are they too different? On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 09:01, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Fri, 3 May 2002, Tahiry Ramanamampanoharana wrote: With with APR's optional functions, it's possible to create my own mod_rewrite optional function. All I have to do is write an optional function and have mod_rewrite look in the optional functions' hash table for it. I was wondering if this feature can be added as a standard to mod_rewrite in the next releases of Apache 2. Right now, each time I switch to a new version, I have to remake the modifications. +1... that sounds like a fabulous idea!! :) It would be very similar to what mod_include is now capable of in both design and implementation, I think. --Cliff -- Cliff Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charlottesville, VA -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: mod_rewrite improved?
AhhhI took your comparison to mean that much of the underlying bits were similar, thus my query. I've looked at both modules and wasn't quite sure how they could be *that* similar, so I had to ask. :) On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 09:42, Cliff Woolley wrote: On 3 May 2002, Austin Gonyou wrote: Should mod_include/mod_rewrite become a merge at some point or are they too different? Whoa... totally different. mod_include parses documents, mod_rewrite manipulates URLs. When I said it was similar, what I meant was that they . NP! So mod_include already does this, mod_rewrite should as well. Right now mod_rewrite does a big if/elseif/elseif/.../ set of strcmps. If it just did a hash table lookup instead, we'd be set! --Cliff -- Cliff Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charlottesville, VA -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: mod_rewrite improved?
I could see a benefit here if the functions themselves were likenable, but they don't appear to be anyway, since the modules perform very different operations for use within Apache. The thing that could be gained though, by say, mod_include having the ability is to enable mod_include to do the parsing itself, instead of employing another module. This is really futile to do anyway though since Apache works just great the way it is with mod_rewrite and mod_include doing their own things. :) On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 10:24, Jim Jagielski wrote: Austin Gonyou wrote: Should mod_include/mod_rewrite become a merge at some point or are they too different? I would hope not. I cannot see having to bother with the nasty overhead of mod_rewrite to do some simple mod_include functionality. I'd -1 this. -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both and deserve neither - T.Jefferson -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Patch] Concept: have MPM identify itself in Server header
Damn...that's a bonk on the head. It probably should do that huh?
On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 16:30, Sander Temme wrote:
All,
The following patch, inline and attached because of possible
line-wrapping,
has the prefork MPM announce itself in the Server: header of all
responses.
Having the MPM identify itself would provide insight in who is using
Apache
in which configuration. It would allow groups like netstat to provide
statistics on MPM usage. The patch changes the Server string of the
server
to Server: Apache/2.0.37-dev (Unix) Prefork MPM.
I considered adding the ap_add_version_component to the
prefork_pre_config
function rather than register another hook, but that would put the MPM
string before the base server component which may interfere with statics
gathering parsers. For the same reason, I didn't put it inside the base
server string.
Finally, adding this on a per-MPM basis rather than centrally provides
the
flexibility for MPMs to identify themselves in their own way or not at
all.
For instance, on platforms that have only one MPM, like Win32, it
wouldn't
make a lot of sense to do so. It also keeps core.c free from
contamination
as it doesn't have to know about human-readable MPM names.
Any thoughts on this? Good/bad idea, good/bad place/way to put it?
S.
Index: server/mpm/prefork/prefork.c
===
RCS file: /home/cvspublic/httpd-2.0/server/mpm/prefork/prefork.c,v
retrieving revision 1.262
diff -u -r1.262 prefork.c
--- server/mpm/prefork/prefork.c8 Apr 2002 16:57:05 -
1.262
+++ server/mpm/prefork/prefork.c3 May 2002 19:50:02 -
@@ -1244,6 +1244,13 @@
return OK;
}
+static int prefork_post_config(apr_pool_t *p, apr_pool_t *plog,
apr_pool_t
*ptemp)
+{
+ap_add_version_component(p, Prefork MPM);
+
+return OK;
+}
+
static void prefork_hooks(apr_pool_t *p)
{
/* The prefork open_logs phase must run before the core's, or
stderr
@@ -1258,6 +1265,7 @@
ap_hook_open_logs(prefork_open_logs, NULL, aszSucc,
APR_HOOK_MIDDLE);
ap_hook_pre_config(prefork_pre_config, NULL, NULL,
APR_HOOK_MIDDLE);
+ap_hook_post_config(prefork_post_config, NULL, NULL,
APR_HOOK_MIDDLE);
}
static const char *set_daemons_to_start(cmd_parms *cmd, void *dummy,
const
char *arg)
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Does AB support SSL ATM?
TIA -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: updated worker, threadpool, and leader/follower performance comparisons
Damn...this is getting close. It's getting there it looks like. I can't help but think the final outcome might be a choice of worker OR leader/follower. I'll take a hit in the CPU to have closer avg load between worker and leader/follower as well as the requests/sec being what they are. Ohh..if only.. :) On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 23:02, Brian Pane wrote: With a single listener port (I'll run multi-listener tests later today), MPM RequestsMean resp. CPU CPU typeper second time (ms) load utilization -- worker 125037.4 6.1 65% leader 117540.0 5.6 61% threadpool 101247.1 4.2 47% with two listeners, MPM RequestsMean resp. CPU CPU typeper second time (ms) load utilization -- worker 107144.3 4.1 51% leader 96449.4 3.9 46% threadpool 99747.8 3.9 46% -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Does AB support SSL ATM?
I'm sorry for the seemingly *dumb* question to the dev list..but as I see that there are ssl bits in ab.c, and after compiling apache2 with SSL, and *it* has ssl support, ab is reporting that it doesn't TIA. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Does AB support SSL ATM?
Please..is anyone seeing this? I need to do some comparison testing..and I need some info here. TIA. On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 12:04, Austin Gonyou wrote: I'm sorry for the seemingly *dumb* question to the dev list..but as I see that there are ssl bits in ab.c, and after compiling apache2 with SSL, and *it* has ssl support, ab is reporting that it doesn't TIA. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Can AB actually work with ssl?
yes, I read ab.c darnit! I get the following when trying to run ab from httpd-2.0.35: SSL not compiled in; no https support Here is what it's compiled with: /bin/sh /home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/srclib/apr/libtool --silent --mode=link gcc -g -O2 -pthread-DLINUX=2 -D_REENTRANT -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_SVID_SOURCE -DAP_HAVE_DESIGNATED_INITIALIZER -DUSE_SSL -I/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/openssl-0.9.6c/ -I. -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/os/unix -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/server/mpm/worker -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/modules/http -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/modules/proxy -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/include -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/srclib/apr/include -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/srclib/apr-util/include -I/usr/include/openssl -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/modules/dav/main -I/home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/srclib/apr-util/include -export-dynamic-o ab ab.lo /home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/srclib/apr-util/libaprutil.la /home/austin/data/build/CoreApache/2.0/testing/httpd-2.0.35/srclib/apr/libapr.la -lm -lcrypt -lnsl -ldl -lssl -lcrypto -lgdbm -ldb /usr/lib/libexpat.la Is that not right? -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: worker MPM bugs (was Re: [PATCH] Possible fix for worker MPMperf ormance problem)
Is it possible, maybe already done, to *tag* the request in some way as it is pushed into the stack(queue) and maintain some kind of hash or other mechanism, based on time(age of request), to pull the oldest first back out, perform service then discard? I suppose that's essentially a FIFO though, isn't it? Well, that methodology, with possible parallel stacks, one per child, could result in rather quick servicing of oldest new requests that were receieved during child spawn time. Just curious. On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 11:57, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 11:30:54AM -0400, Bill Stoddard wrote: Would someone care to see if this fixes the worker MPM performance problem reported earlier on the list (request-per-second dropping when clients exceeded threadsperchild)? This patch defers starting the listener untill -all- the workers have started. I'm not really sure how this would fix the performance problems, and given the current theory it might even exacerbate it. The current hypothesis is that when we run out of available workers in all available children, and we are waiting for a new child to be spawned, connections continue to be accepted and placed in a queue*, and as such aren't able to be immediately serviced as soon as the new child is started. A simple fix would be to prevent the queue* from accepting more connections until there is an idle worker thread available. The reason I have hesitated to make this change is because it would alter the places where the listener thread may enter blocking calls, and would probably break graceful/non-graceful restarts. If I get a little time I will try to look in to this again this weekend. * When I say queue I really mean stack. In thinking about this problem over the last few days I realized that we should convert back to a true LIFO, otherwise it is possible for a request to sit at the back of the stack for a long time before it is serviced. Summary of worker bugs that need to be fixed: - convert fd_queue back into a LIFO - add a counter that blocks ap_queue_pop() until there are available workers (without breaking restarts/shutdown). - add a way to track open socket descriptors; when we get the signal to do a hard shutdown of the server, walk down this set and close the fds so we can halt any long-running requests. -aaron -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Performance comparison for worker, leader/follower, and threadpool MPMs
Sorry for the late response. On Sat, 2002-04-20 at 18:05, Brian Pane wrote: Austin Gonyou wrote: ... Given that info, is there a way to do: ... Since the switch from mutexes to atomic ops on leader/follower, I'm seeing slightly lower mean response times (on par with worker and prefork). The CPU utilization hasn't dropped, but it's still competitive with prefork. The main reason I'm asking is that if worker is to be replaced, then how much longer will it be till Apache 2.0, on *nix is really ready to rock with a threaded model? Performance-wise, I think leader/follower might be there already (based on its performance compared to prefork). But it needs more testing. On this point, what is the possibility of leader/follower having another issue like worker. 25 is ok, 26 is not? (max threads) I'm only curious because I never ran into it, wasn't trying to, but I also run about 50 forks with 20-25 threads max. So I probably never would've hit the problem to begin with. Anyway..TIA. --Brian -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Performance comparison for worker, leader/follower, and threadpool MPMs
On Thu, 2002-04-18 at 21:28, Brian Pane wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Also, while I'm not terribly sure how valuable this might be to you, ... Here are the prefork numbers... ...I'm going to refocus my efforts on turning leader/follower into production-quality code. --Brian httpd listening on one port: Requests/ Mean request CPU CPU MPM second time (ms)loadutilization --- Threadpool854 55.5 4.8 52% Leader/follower 957 39.5 6.8 72% Worker892 31.4 7.0 70% Prefork 899 32.9 7.3 76% Given these numbers, it seems that Threadpool is not too shabby, though the Request Time(ms) is much higher than the others, the CPU utilization is not and load is not. In terms of increasing capacity without replacing hardware, over time, that's pretty important. Given that info, is there a way to do: 1. tweak threadpool so that it uses slightly more CPU, but takes less time, not to exceed 60% cpu. 2. Tweak leader/follower to use less CPU, sub 60%, generate less load ,sub 5, and maintain or lower it's response time? The main reason I'm asking is that if worker is to be replaced, then how much longer will it be till Apache 2.0, on *nix is really ready to rock with a threaded model? TIA. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: leader/follower MPM
I will test this weekend. On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 23:40, Brian Pane wrote: The leader/follower code is now in server/mpm/experimental. The shutdown code needs some work, but otherwise I think it's ready for some testing and review. If you want to try it, ./buildconf; ./configure --with-mpm=leader --Brian -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: slow apache 2.0
Have you tried not using su-exec? On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 11:51, Nick De Decker wrote: Hello again, These are my current worker settings (defaults from standard httpd.conf) StartServers 2 MaxClients 150 MinSpareThreads 25 MaxSpareThreads 75 ThreadsPerChild 25 MaxRequestsPerChild 0 = With these settings apache 2.0 kicks ass, but only if concurrent requests is lower then 26 26 = 1000 per second 27 = 50 per second I still have to install flood but haven't installed cvs for the moment, can i find tarballs somewhere ? Ab wont be the best benchmark test, but one must admit that the performance drop between 26 en 27 concurrent connections is horrible. System : linux 2.4.18 / duron 1000 / 512 mb sdram / udma100 hd Apache got compiled with following settings : ./configure \ --enable-layout=Apache \ --enable-so \ --with-mpm=worker \ --enable-ssl \ --with-ssl=/usr/include/openssl \ --enable-mime-magic \ --enable-expires \ --enable-headers \ --enable-usertrack \ --enable-http \ --enable-dav \ --enable-info \ --enable-rewrite \ --enable-speling \ --enable-auth-anon \ --enable-cgi \ --enable-cgid \ --enable-suexec \ --with-suexec-caller=apache \ --with-suexec-docroot=/iVision/users \ --with-suexec-uidmin=1000 \ --with-suexec-gidmin=1000 \ --with-suexec-safepath=/usr/bin:/bin:/iVision/bin:/usr/local/bin Nick - Original Message - From: Aaron Bannert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: Re: slow apache 2.0 On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:47:02PM +0200, Nick De Decker wrote: I'm testing apache 2.0 but i'm having trouble with it. Benchmarks show very slow results when the number of concurrent users get high. i tested the prefork/worker settings but nothing seems to help. tested with ab : ab -n 1 -c 1000 http://192.168.1.253/index.html (978 bytes page) Ab is not very good for testing concurrency. Check out flood for somewhat better concurrency (http://httpd.apache.org/test/flood/). Also, keep in mind that although you'll see better scalability with the worker MPM over the classic prefork MPM, the biggest improvement will be in memory requirements. I've run 300+ threads on my solaris 8 box while only consuming around 20MB. -aaron -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
what replaced --activate-module?
Is there something that replaced this configure option, or does it still exist? I don't see it. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: what replaced --activate-module?
so for say php 4.1.2, when I do --with-apache2(instead of apxs2) I shouldn't have to activate the module in apache2 ./configure anymore? Is that correct? On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 13:48, Ryan Bloom wrote: To the best of my knowledge, that option has been removed and not replaced. It doesn't really make sense anymore. Ryan -- Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 645 Howard St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: Austin Gonyou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: what replaced --activate-module? Is there something that replaced this configure option, or does it still exist? I don't see it. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: what replaced --activate-module?
Thanks much! On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 13:37, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: There is no static library support for PHP with Apache 2 at this point. ie. you can only build using --with-apxs2 (if you are lucky) Sometime down the road we will probably add this, but it definitely will not be in 4.2. Perhaps 4.3. -Rasmus On 9 Apr 2002, Austin Gonyou wrote: so for say php 4.1.2, when I do --with-apache2(instead of apxs2) I shouldn't have to activate the module in apache2 ./configure anymore? Is that correct? On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 13:48, Ryan Bloom wrote: To the best of my knowledge, that option has been removed and not replaced. It doesn't really make sense anymore. Ryan -- Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 645 Howard St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Francisco, CA -Original Message- From: Austin Gonyou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: what replaced --activate-module? Is there something that replaced this configure option, or does it still exist? I don't see it. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 1.3.24...
Just FMI, If I'm on 1.3.23 now, would it behove me to go to this release for any major reasons? On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 08:52, Jim Jagielski wrote: I'm looking to tag-and-roll 1.3.24 within the hour (11am Eastern)... -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both and deserve neither - T.Jefferson -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: 1.3.24...
NP. Sorry for the bother. On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 11:43, Jim Jagielski wrote: CHANGES is your friend :) Austin Gonyou wrote: Just FMI, If I'm on 1.3.23 now, would it behove me to go to this release for any major reasons? On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 08:52, Jim Jagielski wrote: I'm looking to tag-and-roll 1.3.24 within the hour (11am Eastern)... -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both and deserve neither - T.Jefferson -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both and deserve neither - T.Jefferson -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: Compiling apache2 against glibc 2.2.5
On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 01:14, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 05:52:15PM -0600, Austin Gonyou wrote: My binaries are portable, and that doesn't seem to be a problem. I'm trying to gather information as I continue to try to chase down the php4.2-dev + apache2 issue on this target platform. What's your problem again? -- justin The problem is using PHP on glibc2.2.5 compiled by gcc3 with apache2.0.32. I can use PHP as a cgi, no problem, but trying to use it as .so, is where I have problems. I've also sent another request to the PHP list in the realm of glibc compiled by gcc3, and if I need to explicitly specify the libgcc_s info. I think that may be part of the issue. I've found that PHP 4.2-dev works just fine, with apache 2.0.32, just not my target. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: Compiling apache2 against glibc 2.2.5
Right. I read that as well. There's info in the glibc docs about that. Anyway, I've found that as LONG as you are using glibc 3.0.3 or 3.0.4, with glibc 2.2.5, then the compatibility problem goes away. (per the glibc changelog from 2.2.5) This is specifically in the realm of 2.2.x, not previous. On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 04:03, Sascha Schumann wrote: My binaries are portable, and that doesn't seem to be a problem. I'm trying to gather information as I continue to try to chase down the php4.2-dev + apache2 issue on this target platform. Note that portable (as in can be used on various Linux distributions) programs should be built with a glibc-2.1 (or even 2.0). Programs which are built with glibc-2.2.x don't necessarily work with older versions, e.g. there is no guarantee that a build against 2.2.5 will work with 2.2.4. - Sascha Experience IRCG http://schumann.cx/http://schumann.cx/ircg -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Compiling apache2 against glibc 2.2.5
Glibc 2.2.5 was compiled with gcc3. This is supposed to be allowable with glibc 2.2.5, since it was unsupported prior. Does anyone know of any issues doing this? My binaries are portable, and that doesn't seem to be a problem. I'm trying to gather information as I continue to try to chase down the php4.2-dev + apache2 issue on this target platform. TIA. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: How filters work
Wow. Thanks! On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 10:14, Ryan Bloom wrote: Sander asked me to send an e-mail about how filters are supposed to work in the new model, so here it is. ... If there are any questions about any of this, please let me know. Ryan -- Ryan Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 645 Howard St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] San Francisco, CA -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
RE: 2.0.32 + PHP 4 CVS
I don't know if you saw the further description of this, but it seems it's a glibc/gcc problem. The issue only comes when compbining PHP with apache2 though as a .so. this is MPM independant so far. On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 16:05, NAIK,ROSHAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1) wrote: what is the issue exactly ? -Original Message- From: Austin Gonyou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 4:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2.0.32 + PHP 4 CVS There may be some issue with PHP Apache2 SAPI and the worker MPM. Since that's what I'm using, and was using before too(fyi). I'm going to change the MPM and see what that does. Just wanted to give an update. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/server core.c
I agree that documentation should cover this, but it should also be displayed in the ./configure if someone chooses that, to say, display a warning at the end of the configure or some such thing. At least there'd be an I told you so in there. On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 19:31, Joshua Slive wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 04:58:50PM -0800, Brian Pane wrote: ...or declaring perchild experimental-use-only (and thus not critical path for GA) and then doing a rewrite at any time. When we voted on whether perchild was a showstopper or not I considered that to be equivalent to perchild is experimental, use at your own risk. The real question is: How do we make it very obvious that perchild is experimental? A big red WARNING somewhere? Perhaps some code in configure.in to detect --with-mpm=perchild? That's what documentation is for. If people are going to switch to non-default mpms without reading the documentation, they get what is coming to them. And by the way, +1 on fixing perchild now. I think Ryan should feel free to do anything he wants to improve the mpm, as long as it doesn't involve major mucking with non-mpm code. The only thing that could break is perchild, and perchild is broken anyway. Joshua. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: compiling apache2.0.32 with gcc 3.0.3 [was PHP4-cvs + 2.0.32]
Ok..found something interesting. PHP + Apache 2.0.32 does not run on glibc 2.2.5. (fyi 2.2.5 was compiled with 3.0.3 and my kernel, and binutils, and openssl) I tarred up an installation of Apache 2.0.32 I made from a different machine running 2.2.4, compiled from 2.96, as well as the php module I installed there too. I found that both modules I have(one compiled using gcc3 and one with gcc2), do not let httpd start. I'm not sure where to go from here to find out which half it is, but I'm going to do the following: 1. not use ssl(which I did on my test setup as well as the glibc 2.2.5 system) 2. minimal configuration and installs of both php and apache2. e.g. ./configure --prefix=/web/2.0 --enable-so (for apache2) then ./configure --with-apxs2=/web/2.0/bin/apxs (for php4-cvs) If that works, then something in the middle is mucking things up, and I'll try to see what I can do there. On Fri, 2002-02-22 at 18:32, Austin Gonyou wrote: This works everything is happy, until introducing PHP. Mind you PHP has been compiled by gcc3 as well. I suspect PHP is having a problem being compiled with gcc3. I compiled PHP and Apache 2.0.32 with 2.96-85(RH 7.1 update) and all is well. I'll figure out what the deal is then contact the appropriate parties. Just fyi. -- -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: PHP4 was Re: has anybody seen worker segfaults?
NP. I am using the CVS as of last night. That's why I'm writing, and that's why I said 4.1.1, I guess it should've been 4.1.1 :) On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 12:19, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 10:16:03AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 12:03:00PM -0600, Austin Gonyou wrote: PHP4.1.1 or not working? You have to have the version from CVS in order to get it to compile. -- justin Err, just to make it clear, you need the latest version of PHP from their CVS repository. We made changes in the .31 timeframe to our input filters and they haven't done a release since then. DougM committed the relevant fixes to PHP's repository right after we changed it here. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: PHP4 was Re: has anybody seen worker segfaults?
FYI. Not an compilation problem, HTTPD just doesn't do anything, but doesn't write a log either, and only 1 process is started. On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 12:19, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 10:16:03AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 12:03:00PM -0600, Austin Gonyou wrote: PHP4.1.1 or not working? You have to have the version from CVS in order to get it to compile. -- justin Err, just to make it clear, you need the latest version of PHP from their CVS repository. We made changes in the .31 timeframe to our input filters and they haven't done a release since then. DougM committed the relevant fixes to PHP's repository right after we changed it here. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
RE: PHP4 was Re: has anybody seen worker segfaults?
NP. I'll move it over to that list then. I just wanted to bring it up
here first since I've no output from apache at all. Strace didn't help
much either(no this time).
Thanks for the info Madhu. If I get an actual fix/resolution for this,
I'll be sure to let everyone know, so we've closure.
On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 16:13, MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
wrote:
Austin,
I was working on this some time back, and I don't believe it's a
Apache problem (it might be a better idea to move it to the PHP mailing
list)
The problem occurs because of the way the PHP context is handled in
php_output_filter (sapi_apache2.c).. Here's something that I observed :
The function php_output_filter() is called 2 times because of the way
the
output data is handled by the filter..
- the first time around some sort of initialization is done.
- during the second round, the data is sent out
- then i don't know what happens (possibly wrong termination of the o/p
brigade), and the php_output_filter is called for the third time.. The
filter knows about such a thing happening, but the code is not written
properly to handle the situation.. The PHP context (ctx) is corrupted,
and
the PHP module bombs - you end up seeing only the parent apache process.
(Due to my limited PHP knowledge) I introduced the following snippet
just
before the ap_save_brigade(...) block, and it seems to bring up apache
if ((ctx-state 0) || (ctx-state 2)) {
ap_log_error(APLOG_MARK, APLOG_DEBUG,
0, NULL, PHP : Unrecognized state!);
return 0;
}
This is a workaround and not a resolution/fix.. I'd appreciate if
anybody
could post a fix for this..
Thanks,
-Madhu
-Original Message-
From: Austin Gonyou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PHP4 was Re: has anybody seen worker segfaults?
FYI. Not an compilation problem, HTTPD just doesn't do anything, but
doesn't write a log either, and only 1 process is started.
On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 12:19, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 10:16:03AM -0800, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 12:03:00PM -0600, Austin Gonyou wrote:
PHP4.1.1 or not working?
You have to have the version from CVS in order to get it to
compile. -- justin
Err, just to make it clear, you need the latest version of PHP
from their CVS repository. We made changes in the .31 timeframe
to our input filters and they haven't done a release since then.
DougM committed the relevant fixes to PHP's repository right after
we changed it here. -- justin
--
Austin Gonyou
Systems Architect, CCNA
Coremetrics, Inc.
Phone: 512-698-7250
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it.
Latin Proverb
--
Austin Gonyou
Systems Architect, CCNA
Coremetrics, Inc.
Phone: 512-698-7250
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it.
Latin Proverb
Re: gone sailing
Have a good trip! BTW- digitalroadkill.net will be on 2.0.32 this evening around 10PM CST. Had a lot of issues with timing yesterday, so my apologies. digitalroadkill.net:8080, or 443, if you wish to test. RH 7.2-XFS kernel 2.4.17-xfs-aa glibc-2.2.5 gcc-3.0.3 openssl-0.9.6c PHP 4.1.1 or HTTPD 2.0.32 with SSL support, worker MPM. Drupal(may or may not be installed tonight) AMD 1.333Ghz IDE disk subsystem 256MB PC 133SDRAM On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 16:04, Greg Ames wrote: ...for about a week and a half, taking a 42' catamaran from Miami to the British Virgin Islands. httpd on daedalus shouldn't need much attention in the mean time. I have a lot of confidence in 2.0.32. Greg -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: 2.0.32 is a beta!
I'm going to rebuild digitalroadkill.net starting tomorrow night up to RH 7.2 + my own kernel patches + purified gcc/glibc/binutils, etc. I'm also going to move drk to Drupal, instead of PHPNuke. So hopefully, for testing, I'll have everything up late tomorrow night, or the next, Feb 18 GMT -0600. Please feel free to post test stories, etc. I run worker MPM + ssl + PHP 4.1.1 or . Good job, and I can't wait to test it! On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 13:13, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I have updated /dist/httpd to reflect that 2.0.32 is now a beta. 2.0.28 files have been moved to old. Once we have the zip files available, I will wait 24 hours for the mirrors to catch up and then the formal announcements will be posted. (For the love of all that is good and sane, please don't post to /. until we have the zip files and our mirrors can catch up.) Enjoy and congrats to everyone! While I'm not sold on this as a GA (mainly due to some forthcoming API changes rather than the stability of the server), I believe we're really close. If we choose to focus on making the next release a GA, I think we can do that. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: 2.0.32 as GA candidate? Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.0.32 beta announceme nt
is that worker mpm? Just curious On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 13:47, Eli Marmor wrote: Ryan Bloom wrote: ... Being slashdotted, will be also a good heavy-load test for daedalus, which runs 2.0.32... ;-) -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: 2.0.32 as GA candidate? Re: [PROPOSAL] 2.0.32 beta announceme nt
Ahh..yes..now it's clear. Thx! Well, I'll whack a couple of boxen with ab or httperf and see what I can get out of it on Linux. :) On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 01:28, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:34:31AM -0600, Austin Gonyou wrote: is that worker mpm? Just curious Daedalus (aka www.apache.org) runs FreeBSD. And, FreeBSD's thread support sucks to the point where they are not usable. So, it's running prefork. We had a concerted effort a few months ago by Aaron, David, and myself to see what we could do, and we made some progress, but not enough to make it usable. We dropped it because we each had better things to do with our lives. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb
Re: suexec and apache2.0
So then a detection of something like PAM or other authentication facility or a lookup of the UID against /etc/passwd and group to resolve UID to UNAME might be in order? Is there a way around that? On Fri, 2002-01-04 at 19:59, GUMMALAM,MOHAN (HP-Cupertino,ex2) wrote: Currently suexec does not seem to work with apache2.0.. well atleast not completely. The problem I seem to run into is with ~user situations. Looks like the suexec code (suexec.c) expects to make a distinction between ~user calls from others by inspecting for the ~ character. However, in os/unix/unixd.c, the userid passed to suexec program is a numerical string (string of numbers, corresponding to uid_t of the ~user). As a result, suexec always bails out for every ~user calls with the following error message in suexec_log file: command (/home/user/public_html/showuser.cgi) not in docroot (/usr/local/apache2) I have made some fix and it works. I could post the patch(es) if required. The files changed for this are: os/unix/unixd.c os/unix/unixd.h modules/generators/mod_suexec.c modules/generators/mod_suexec.h 1. Change the return type of get_suexec_id_doer to unixd_config_rec (originally ap_unix_identity_t). 2. Modify get_suexec_id_doer to return user string in the cfg-ugid.user_name structure, if the URI contains ~. 3. Call the suexec program with ~user string if required, otherwise call it with uid_t of the user specified in the SuexecUserGroup directive in httpd.conf (the original behaviour). If someone has a better solution, please post it. Thanks, M -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Directory completion?
Thanks for everyone's suggestions, but it's just not working. I recently installed the new 2.0.30-dev with PHP and ssl. All working nicely. And I tried again. http://digitalroadkill.net:8080/Galleries versus http://digitalroadkill.net:8080/Gallieries/ One produces a timeout, the other doesn't. I'll turn my logs up to debug and see if I can see anything. I haven't been able to so far. I'm using worker MPM on Linux. glibc 2.2.4, gcc 3.0.2 compiled. Thanks again. On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 17:53, Aaron Bannert wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 05:36:22PM -0600, Austin Gonyou wrote: If I add a directory to my httpd.conf and restart apache, or I add a directory to htdocs, then point my browser as such: http://127.0.0.1/somedir It hangs until the browser times out. If I do the following though, without restarting apache, etc: My guess is your ServerName is set to something that doesn't exist from the perspective of your browser. When you request http://127.0.0.1/somedir it generates a 301 Moved Permanently to whatever was in your ServerName (plus the path and some other stuff), at which point your browser tries to resolve that new host. If it cannot it will hang until timeout. http://127.0.0.1/somedir/ This one doesn't generate a 301 since it is a properly formed URL (it references a real resource). it works. Why is that, and what am I missing. It seems so simple, yet I don't understand what option I'm missing. -aaron -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Directory completion?
Thanks for all the work. I just couldn't see that happening. I don't care if it doesn't work for me, as long as it works for everyone else. Now I've got a more serious issue though. I can't even get /Galleries/ or / to parse php now it seems. I think my ouput filters are wrong. I used to be able to use the following: FilesMatch *.php,*.html SetInputFilter php SetOutputFilter php /FilesMatch Now I have to use: FilesMatch \.php SetInputFilter php SetOutputFilter php /FilesMatch and likewise with html. What am I doing wrong? -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Directory completion?
Ok..Sorry for the craziness. There seems to be something happening with Galeon. I tried links, again, and Mozilla and everything is working as it should. Thanks again for all the help. It even seems as though my filters are working correctly. On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 16:03, Austin Gonyou wrote: Thanks for all the work. I just couldn't see that happening. I don't care if it doesn't work for me, as long as it works for everyone else. Now I've got a more serious issue though. I can't even get /Galleries/ or / to parse php now it seems. I think my ouput filters are wrong. I used to be able to use the following: FilesMatch *.php,*.html SetInputFilter php SetOutputFilter php /FilesMatch Now I have to use: FilesMatch \.php SetInputFilter php SetOutputFilter php /FilesMatch and likewise with html. What am I doing wrong? -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Directory completion?
I'm really confused about Galeon. It seems that when I go to: http://digitalroadkill.net:8080/Galleries/ Galeon reports that: 'The PHP Filter did not receive suitable input data' Does anyone know why I *might* receive this in one browser and not in another? When I telnet to port 8080 and request /Galleries/ it works like a champ. What am I missing? (besides a few screws...) On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 16:03, Austin Gonyou wrote: Thanks for all the work. I just couldn't see that happening. I don't care if it doesn't work for me, as long as it works for everyone else. Now I've got a more serious issue though. I can't even get /Galleries/ or / to parse php now it seems. I think my ouput filters are wrong. I used to be able to use the following: FilesMatch *.php,*.html SetInputFilter php SetOutputFilter php /FilesMatch Now I have to use: FilesMatch \.php SetInputFilter php SetOutputFilter php /FilesMatch and likewise with html. What am I doing wrong? -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Directory completion?
Ok. I found the source of the error. For some reason the default 404 server message isn't getting displayed and this other message is instead. If I can find the bottom of it, I'll post with answers so it at least goes into to archive. Thanks for those who've looked. Woops. I just figured it out. Since I've got a html ouput filter redirecting to php to handle the output, when error/HTTP_NOT_FOUND.html.var is called and it's trying to parse top.html and bottom.html, it isn't. So, if I can get php to parse the html correctly, then this message will go away. If you go to http://digitalroadkill.net:8080/as;dljfsad you'll see the error message I'm talking about. This get's generated on every 404, since PHP isn't parsing the html properly. Whew. I thought I was couldn't figure it out. I'm happy now thanks for the time. On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 16:13, Austin Gonyou wrote: Ok..Sorry for the craziness. There seems to be something happening with Galeon. I tried links, again, and Mozilla and everything is working as it should. Thanks again for all the help. It even seems as though my filters are working correctly. On Wed, 2002-01-02 at 16:03, Austin Gonyou wrote: Thanks for all the work. I just couldn't see that happening. I don't care if it doesn't work for me, as long as it works for everyone else. Now I've got a more serious issue though. I can't even get /Galleries/ or / to parse php now it seems. I think my ouput filters are wrong. I used to be able to use the following: FilesMatch *.php,*.html SetInputFilter php SetOutputFilter php /FilesMatch Now I have to use: FilesMatch \.php SetInputFilter php SetOutputFilter php /FilesMatch and likewise with html. What am I doing wrong? -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Directory completion?
If I add a directory to my httpd.conf and restart apache, or I add a directory to htdocs, then point my browser as such: http://127.0.0.1/somedir It hangs until the browser times out. If I do the following though, without restarting apache, etc: http://127.0.0.1/somedir/ it works. Why is that, and what am I missing. It seems so simple, yet I don't understand what option I'm missing. Thanks for the time, and happy new-year! -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Directory completion?
In my case it has to point to itself for testing purposes. I don't use proxies. On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 18:13, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 06:09:56PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Yes... definately the problem [it bit me just today.] What would the group think about validating that the ServerName/ServerAlias directives resolve to a valid Listen'er of this server? What about proxies? It is valid to have it not point directly to itself. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the part of a good shepherd to shear his flock, not to skin it. Latin Proverb signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: how to listen on multiple interfaces?
Do all interfaces have a route available? On Mon, 2001-12-17 at 01:37, Danny Karpati wrote: Hi, Who knows how to configure httpd.conf to listen on all the interfaces? (netstat will show *.80) My httpd.conf looks like: Listen 80 Listen 44460 VirtualHost _default_:44460 ... ... /VirtualHost It doesn't work on machines with more then one interface, httpd is stucked at loading! -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have regard for your name, since it will remain for you longer than a great store of gold. Ecclesiastes, Aprocrypha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
threaded and pthread
I do daily builds of the httpd-2.0 cvs tree automatically with some scripts I wrote. Recently I decided to try to just compile it and see what's changed since several weeks ago. I noticed that help reports that there is no threaded or pthread in the MPM list. Is it just out, or did my buildconf break? Please advise. -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have regard for your name, since it will remain for you longer than a great store of gold. Ecclesiastes, Aprocrypha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: threaded and pthread
Will it ever come back? Say it ain't so pa'. Say it ain't so! :) On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 20:08, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 02:03:06PM +, Austin Gonyou wrote: I do daily builds of the httpd-2.0 cvs tree automatically with some scripts I wrote. Recently I decided to try to just compile it and see what's changed since several weeks ago. I noticed that help reports that there is no threaded or pthread in the MPM list. Is it just out, or did my buildconf break? Please advise. Long gone. Please use worker. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have regard for your name, since it will remain for you longer than a great store of gold. Ecclesiastes, Aprocrypha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: threaded and pthread
After looking into it I discovered this as well, but thanks for replying about it anyway. Sorry for the bother, I was just so surprised! Thanks again. On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 21:46, Aaron Bannert wrote: The worker MPM is a hybrid multi-threaded/multi-process MPM and is the replacement for the threaded MPM. -aaron On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 03:20:42PM +, Austin Gonyou wrote: Will it ever come back? Say it ain't so pa'. Say it ain't so! :) On Fri, 2001-12-14 at 20:08, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 02:03:06PM +, Austin Gonyou wrote: I do daily builds of the httpd-2.0 cvs tree automatically with some scripts I wrote. Recently I decided to try to just compile it and see what's changed since several weeks ago. I noticed that help reports that there is no threaded or pthread in the MPM list. Is it just out, or did my buildconf break? Please advise. Long gone. Please use worker. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-698-7250 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have regard for your name, since it will remain for you longer than a great store of gold. Ecclesiastes, Aprocrypha signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Please help with this Snake Oil problem
Unless someone is willing to provide official Entrust, Thawte, VeriSign, etc Certs, I doubt Apache coming from apache.org will EVER have proper certs. They do cost money and all. Not to mention, Thawte, VeriSign, and Entrust all have docs on how to create certificates using OpenSSL. On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 21:32, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 09:24:36PM -0600, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: this is a perception problem for end users [much like the It Worked! Apache is successfully installed. message] that should be avoided when Apache 2.0's final SSL components are put in place. Which is why we don't enable SSL by default and instead point them at the docs for mod_ssl. However, I believe this runs contrary to how httpd-2.0 will be packaged by third-parties - I think Henri mentioned that he is enabling mod_ssl by default in his RPM builds. I'm not sure if he is including a Snake Oil certificate or not. -- justin -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-796-9023 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg03635/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FW: 2_0_28 tarballs rolled and available
NP. At 130 pm CST -5GMT, I'll re-build 2.0.28 from scratch and test again. Will then post and announce. On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 11:44, MATHIHALLI,MADHUSUDAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1) wrote: Whoops.. I had missed out this mail. hmmn..:-(.. -Madhu -Original Message- From: Austin Gonyou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 2_0_28 tarballs rolled and available I got a build error using my old config last night. Sorry for the delay. I'm going to try again this after noon for those who want to bang on digitalroadkill. On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 10:26, sterling wrote: Thanks Cliff - Yeah, was mentioned before they are technically the same functionality as the server works today - the while loop is to mimic ap_finalize_request's logic before it fires up the filter chain etc. As far as the assert - there are so many assumptions in this server another one probably won't hurt much :) - but it would be nice. thanks - sterling On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Cliff Woolley wrote: On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, sterling wrote: As far as your suggested patch - why is that better (and don't say performance wise - with all the string comparisons going on in a request a small while loop in an error case won't affect that much)? I personally just think it's more clear what's going on without the loop than with it. Anyway, they both passed the httpd-test suite. (Not that the test suite actually catches this problem right now, but that's another matter. I verified this fix by hand with the test case you provided, and httpd-test tells me it didn't break anything else.) I just committed Justin's version because I think it's more clear. If somebody wants to stick in an AP_DEBUG_ASSERT to make sure r-next is NULL when we enter the function, that's fine by me. Thanks! --Cliff -- Cliff Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charlottesville, VA -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-796-9023 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-796-9023 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2_0_28 tarballs rolled and available
I didnt' realize but I was using 2.0.29-dev. My apologies. I'll go get the tarball and just compile that. 2.0.29 as of today though, works with NO problems! On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 13:45, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: From: Sander Temme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:39 PM I say Advisory +1 For Beta provided a release note entry that DSO currently doesn't work on Darwin/MacOSX. Nor is HFS secure until someone goes in and hacks the case-insenstive define plus the APR_FILEINFO_TRUENAME gook for that platform's filesystem. Given the samba shares and other nightmares, I'm thinking that this becomes a Directory scoped option, either inferred at config time, or specified by the admin. If someone _really_ wants to skip all canonicalization on a given tree, that's fine [as long as they know what they are in for ;] Bill -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-796-9023 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.0.28-beta release?
Beta means bugs, but as few bugs as you can manage. Also bugs which are out in the release should be known to a certain degree and bugs from the previous release being fixed in the subsequent release/releases. That said, As far as I can tell, 2.0.28 is beta material. Just my simple minded $0.02 On Tue, 2001-11-13 at 17:02, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 12:00:31PM -0800, Ryan Bloom wrote: On Tuesday 13 November 2001 11:28 am, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: From: Greg Ames [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:56 PM ... that file, do the PITA dance with the CHANGES file, probably do a little testing, re-roll, rename the tarballs as beta. What do others think? I could note that this happened in the CHANGES file since I have to mess with it anyway. I'd suggest that you checkout on APACHE-2_0_28, tag as APACHE-2_0_28_ALPHA for historical reasons, then we can add APACHE-2_0_28_BETA, etc. No, there is 2.0.28, period. There isn't a 2.0.28-alpha and 2.0.28-beta code base. There is one 2.0.28 codebase. You could have different versions if the alpha/beta distinction was in the code, but it isn't. It is only in the tarball name. I'm with Ryan. 2.0.28 is exactly that. alpha and beta are *designations*. They are not code changes. 2.0.28 should be buildable from the label. If the CHANGES file was modified *outside* of that, then we have a problem. Ship the damned code. This is a BETA for crying out loud. We don't need to weasel patches in. oh, just this one little fix. Fuck that. Beta means bugs. Beta means that we have a list of issues for people to be concerned with. Beta means people may have platform-specific problems. Beta is not GA. +1 on beta. Get a release out the door. Christ almighty... what's it take around here? The new release process was intended to get tarballs *out* to people. Not to be held up in a bunch of snippy little bug fix this, bug fix that. Ship it out with bugs. Call it alpha if it doesn't feel right. Call it beta if it feels good. If an ErrorDocument doesn't work in one case, then tell people too bad. don't do that. If the server dies with a particular subrequest executed from some wonky CGI-provided SSI document, then say get this patch. But we gotta get more releases out into the public's hands. 2.0.16 was crap. Should people really be using that? Not a chance. Give them 2.0.28. -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ -- Austin Gonyou Systems Architect, CCNA Coremetrics, Inc. Phone: 512-796-9023 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
