Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
Am 08.03.2014 01:38, schrieb Noel Butler: This will be dealt with off list with the words below which are only a part of the off-list reply and this person is allowed to maintain a RBL in australia and so anybody using bl.alt-backspace.org should re-consider that Noel Butler: listen you cock sucking little fucking faggot cunt, fuclk off with your fucking hollier than though fucking shit ok cuntface you are a nobody on any list depsite the fact you think you are, you have no fucknig right to ask anyone to type the way you want ok cunt eyes, just fuck off and spew your fucking shit is a psychopathic reaction to the the simple question post in plaintext and was the direct repsone to that off-list reply to Noel On 08/03/2014 10:49, Reindl Harald wrote: if you fail to heed that warning your the only one who will regret it stop your personal vendetta - the only one playing internet cop is you i have asked in a nice way to not post HTML and explained why the other person had no problem with my question / hin Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes Datum: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 18:24:26 +0100 Von: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net Antwort an: dev@httpd.apache.org An: dev@httpd.apache.org Am 07.03.2014 18:07, schrieb Yann Ylavic can you please post plaintext instead HTML to lists for me such messages are unreadable after medical operations on both eyes because you override my MUA font settings On 08/03/2014 09:51, Reindl Harald wrote: what exactly is your personal problem? can you please post plaintext instead HTML to lists you did see the word please? for me such messages are unreadable after medical operations on both eyes because you override my MUA font settings you understood that reason? i follow that thread longer honestly interested there where a few HTML respones and *all* oft hem left unread because they contained a lot of content he has been warned about playing net cop who do you think you are calling others net cop because they ask for easier readable posts while you are the one proven to playing net cop due maintaining a RBL? Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list is the response you should have been attacking Am 08.03.2014 00:39, schrieb Noel Butler: Harry, you have been warned before, dont bring your antics onto this list, this is about the only list you have been most well behaved on, unlike others, please remember our previous conversations. If you think a posters post violates some RFC, ignore it, or take it up with him in private, do not pollute this list with your bullshit. Thank you :) On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 19:13 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.03.2014 18:58, schrieb Mikhail T.: On 07.03.2014 12:28, Yann Ylavic wrote: Sorry, this was posted from gmail... Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list that use of HTML is something to apologize for? nearly any mailing-list has it written clear, some even reject HTML and on some others you get warned by the owner (postfix as example) https://www.google.com/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+plaintext+only https://www.google.at/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+no+html _ http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.htmlNote: Spam filters don't like messages with empty Subjects; just use e.g. subscribe or unsubscribe. Spam filters are also more likely to reject HTML-formatted messages; please use plain text With all due sympathies to Reindl's medical condition, why must we -- in the second decade of the 21st century -- deny ourselves the means of expression afforded by HTML on this list? because the message had no single HTML formatting and was written in plain but as HTML may be a godd reason it hardly makes sense to write email in HTML, they just explode after some replies/quotes and forwardings with different clients while a conversation in plaintext survises thousands of replies without lose a sane quoting signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 08.03.2014 01:38, schrieb Noel Butler: This will be dealt with off list with the words below which are only a part of the off-list reply It should be kept off-list. Just stop.
Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
Truer words were never spoken about Harald Reindl, this person brings trouble to every mailing list he joins postfix - banned fedora - moderation centos - moderation/banned roundcube - moderation dovecot - final warnings and they are just the lists I know of, and when moderated he is known to send direct abuse and threats to people (this is why on roundcube he will never be post status again) removing the content of such deserved vulgar (about time somebody gave him a dose of his own medicine for once) I do not find his hostname in bl.alt-backspace.org so, if thats a fabrication, well, I'll leave it to your imaginations. I suggest this list moderates him as well else this is just the start of things to come going by his very poor track record. Most people (myself included) have him filtered out anyway- now he's found his way onto this list, I no longer whitelist this list.
Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
the next one with his vendetta i just *asked* consider post plain text nothing more Am 10.03.2014 00:32, schrieb Nick Edwards: Truer words were never spoken about Harald Reindl, this person brings trouble to every mailing list he joins postfix - banned read the history fedora - moderation no longer true for good reasons centos - moderation/banned because *one* posting years ago roundcube - moderation caused by Noel Butler and nobody else dovecot - final warnings in a thread flamed by Noel Butler and youself interesing that i am still there, Noel not and he had his vendetta against Timo long ago I do not find his hostname in bl.alt-backspace.org because it was removed months ago after even Noel Butler realized that it is the wrong way to blacklist whole networks because personal problems with a single person and if people like Noel and you just shut up many problems you list abvoe simply would not exist __ frankly who do you and Noel think that you are to rule the world? did i do anyhting bad on this list? if yes show me if no just shut up with your persnal justice trying to rule the world there is not much left to say than that reject message below noel.but...@ausics.net: host mail.ausics.net[27.33.160.23] said: 554 5.7.1 Sender address rejected: faggots not allowed signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
On 07.03.2014 12:28, Yann Ylavic wrote: Sorry, this was posted from gmail... Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list, that use of HTML is something to apologize for? With all due sympathies to Reindl's medical condition, why must we -- in the second decade of the 21st century -- deny ourselves the means of expression afforded by HTML on this list? He can -- ought to be able to -- adjust his MUA to use his font-preferences over whatever may be specified in the incoming email. I'd ask this question on /any/ mailing list, but it seems especially ironic among developers of Apache httpd -- software meant to distribute content, that is most often written in HTML... Granted, some HTML can be offensive even to the healthy eyes -- and ought to be viewed as impolite (not that Yann's was anything of the kind). But to request, as Reindl did, that /all/ postings -- from all participants -- be in plain text, seems rather overbearing... Here is the plain text. Wouldn't it be better to send such a duplication to Reindl /personally/? To avoid this becoming a list-wide flame war, I ask for the powers running this list to convene and hand us the law: either HTML is acceptable (my own preference), or it is not (in which case it should be bounced back by the mailing list software with an appropriate message). -mi
Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
Am 07.03.2014 18:58, schrieb Mikhail T.: On 07.03.2014 12:28, Yann Ylavic wrote: Sorry, this was posted from gmail... Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list that use of HTML is something to apologize for? nearly any mailing-list has it written clear, some even reject HTML and on some others you get warned by the owner (postfix as example) https://www.google.com/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+plaintext+only https://www.google.at/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+no+html _ http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html Note: Spam filters don't like messages with empty Subjects; just use e.g. subscribe or unsubscribe. Spam filters are also more likely to reject HTML-formatted messages; please use plain text With all due sympathies to Reindl's medical condition, why must we -- in the second decade of the 21st century -- deny ourselves the means of expression afforded by HTML on this list? because the message had no single HTML formatting and was written in plain but as HTML may be a godd reason it hardly makes sense to write email in HTML, they just explode after some replies/quotes and forwardings with different clients while a conversation in plaintext survises thousands of replies without lose a sane quoting signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 12:58 -0500, Mikhail T. wrote: On 07.03.2014 12:28, Yann Ylavic wrote: Sorry, this was posted from gmail... Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list, that use of HTML is something to apologize for? With all due sympathies to Reindl's medical Absolutely no apology required Harald is just a system admin subscribed to this http developer list, he has no association with Apache Software Foundation, he has been warned about playing net cop where he has no authority to do so before, ignore him. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
Harry, you have been warned before, dont bring your antics onto this list, this is about the only list you have been most well behaved on, unlike others, please remember our previous conversations. If you think a posters post violates some RFC, ignore it, or take it up with him in private, do not pollute this list with your bullshit. Thank you :) On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 19:13 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.03.2014 18:58, schrieb Mikhail T.: On 07.03.2014 12:28, Yann Ylavic wrote: Sorry, this was posted from gmail... Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list that use of HTML is something to apologize for? nearly any mailing-list has it written clear, some even reject HTML and on some others you get warned by the owner (postfix as example) https://www.google.com/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+plaintext+only https://www.google.at/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+no+html _ http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html Note: Spam filters don't like messages with empty Subjects; just use e.g. subscribe or unsubscribe. Spam filters are also more likely to reject HTML-formatted messages; please use plain text With all due sympathies to Reindl's medical condition, why must we -- in the second decade of the 21st century -- deny ourselves the means of expression afforded by HTML on this list? because the message had no single HTML formatting and was written in plain but as HTML may be a godd reason it hardly makes sense to write email in HTML, they just explode after some replies/quotes and forwardings with different clients while a conversation in plaintext survises thousands of replies without lose a sane quoting attachment: face-smile.png signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
what exactly is your personal problem? can you please post plaintext instead HTML to lists you did see the word please? for me such messages are unreadable after medical operations on both eyes because you override my MUA font settings you understood that reason? i follow that thread longer honestly interested there where a few HTML respones and *all* oft hem left unread because they contained a lot of content he has been warned about playing net cop who do you think you are calling others net cop because they ask for easier readable posts while you are the one proven to playing net cop due maintaining a RBL? Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list is the response you should have been attacking Am 08.03.2014 00:39, schrieb Noel Butler: Harry, you have been warned before, dont bring your antics onto this list, this is about the only list you have been most well behaved on, unlike others, please remember our previous conversations. If you think a posters post violates some RFC, ignore it, or take it up with him in private, do not pollute this list with your bullshit. Thank you :) On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 19:13 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.03.2014 18:58, schrieb Mikhail T.: On 07.03.2014 12:28, Yann Ylavic wrote: Sorry, this was posted from gmail... Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list that use of HTML is something to apologize for? nearly any mailing-list has it written clear, some even reject HTML and on some others you get warned by the owner (postfix as example) https://www.google.com/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+plaintext+only https://www.google.at/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+no+html _ http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html Note: Spam filters don't like messages with empty Subjects; just use e.g. subscribe or unsubscribe. Spam filters are also more likely to reject HTML-formatted messages; please use plain text With all due sympathies to Reindl's medical condition, why must we -- in the second decade of the 21st century -- deny ourselves the means of expression afforded by HTML on this list? because the message had no single HTML formatting and was written in plain but as HTML may be a godd reason it hardly makes sense to write email in HTML, they just explode after some replies/quotes and forwardings with different clients while a conversation in plaintext survises thousands of replies without lose a sane quoting signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Use of HTML on mailing lists (Re: SO_REUSEPORT in the children processes)
This will be dealt with off list On 08/03/2014 09:51, Reindl Harald wrote: what exactly is your personal problem? can you please post plaintext instead HTML to lists you did see the word please? for me such messages are unreadable after medical operations on both eyes because you override my MUA font settings you understood that reason? i follow that thread longer honestly interested there where a few HTML respones and *all* oft hem left unread because they contained a lot of content he has been warned about playing net cop who do you think you are calling others net cop because they ask for easier readable posts while you are the one proven to playing net cop due maintaining a RBL? Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list is the response you should have been attacking Am 08.03.2014 00:39, schrieb Noel Butler: Harry, you have been warned before, dont bring your antics onto this list, this is about the only list you have been most well behaved on, unlike others, please remember our previous conversations. If you think a posters post violates some RFC, ignore it, or take it up with him in private, do not pollute this list with your bullshit. Thank you :) On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 19:13 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 07.03.2014 18:58, schrieb Mikhail T.: On 07.03.2014 12:28, Yann Ylavic wrote: Sorry, this was posted from gmail... Is it written anywhere in the bylaws of this mailing list that use of HTML is something to apologize for? nearly any mailing-list has it written clear, some even reject HTML and on some others you get warned by the owner (postfix as example) https://www.google.com/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+plaintext+only [1] https://www.google.at/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+no+html [2] _ http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html [3]Note: Spam filters don't like messages with empty Subjects; just use e.g. subscribe or unsubscribe. Spam filters are also more likely to reject HTML-formatted messages; please use plain text With all due sympathies to Reindl's medical condition, why must we -- in the second decade of the 21st century -- deny ourselves the means of expression afforded by HTML on this list? because the message had no single HTML formatting and was written in plain but as HTML may be a godd reason it hardly makes sense to write email in HTML, they just explode after some replies/quotes and forwardings with different clients while a conversation in plaintext survises thousands of replies without lose a sane quoting Links: -- [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+plaintext+only [2] https://www.google.at/search?q=mailing+list+etiquette+no+html [3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html