Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-25 Thread Angela Schreiber
-1 for having the security-manager optional. the security section has been completely reworked and the security-manager is a key functionality. up to know the access-manager was the only mandatory element in the security section. with the new security code it could even be the other way round:

Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-25 Thread Thomas Müller
Why is that? If we want to be backward compatible, that means if Jackrabbit 1.5 should 'just work' with old repository.xml files, then we need to 'make it work' if no SecurityManager is configured. That means we need to define what is the default security manager. Once we say 'use the default

Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-25 Thread Marcel Reutegger
Alexander Klimetschek wrote: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jukka Zitting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is, should the 1.5 upgrade changes in configuration files or not? I would rather opt for a smoother upgrade with more backwards compatibility, but I acknowledge that there are good

Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-25 Thread Angela Schreiber
-1 for having the security-manager optional. If it is not optional, we are obviously not backward compatible. someone having an 1.4 configuration with a custom access manager would be forced to change it anyway. I believe most users use the default settings. so, the question is

Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-25 Thread Michael Wechner
Angela Schreiber schrieb: -1 for having the security-manager optional. If it is not optional, we are obviously not backward compatible. someone having an 1.4 configuration with a custom access manager would be forced to change it anyway. I believe most users use the default settings.

Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-25 Thread Angela Schreiber
thomas and myself had a private conversation on that issue and found a compromise: have everything in the security configuration optional would avoid any misconception regarding the relation between security-manager and access-manager. i.e. change dtd from !ELEMENT Security (SecurityManager,

Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-24 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Thomas Mueller (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compatibility: Jackrabbit 1.5 will not work with 1.4 repository.xml files because of JCR-1472 (SecurityManager). If we want to make the repository.xml backward compatible, we should have a look at that as

Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-24 Thread Alexander Klimetschek
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jukka Zitting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question is, should the 1.5 upgrade changes in configuration files or not? I would rather opt for a smoother upgrade with more backwards compatibility, but I acknowledge that there are good reasons why we might want

Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-24 Thread Thomas Müller
+1 for being backwards compatible in a minor 1.x release In that case the SecurityManager setting should be truly optional: no warning should be logged if it is missing.

Re: Backwards compatibility of configuration files (Was: [jira] Commented: (JCR-1462) repository.xml: throw an exception on error)

2008-09-24 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Thomas Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In that case the SecurityManager setting should be truly optional: no warning should be logged if it is missing. Why is that? We can (and should) deprecate old configurations like ones with no SecurityManager or no