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Le dim. 7 avr. 2024 à 08:49, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a
écrit :
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm preparing the Karaf 4.4.6 release using Java 11+. It will provide
> Spring 6.x features requiring Java 17. As Karaf 4.4.x still uses Camel
> 3.2.x (Java 11+), it will be up to the user to choose Java 11 (with
>
+1
Le mer. 13 sept. 2023 à 01:53, Jakub Herkel a écrit :
> +1 (non binding)
>
> best regards
>
> Jakub
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 5:06 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > After long weeks of wait, I submit Apache Karaf OSGi runtime 4.4.4
> > release to your vote.
> >
> >
Hi Mark,
Doesn't https://github.com/apache/karaf/pull/1723 solves it?
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+1
Side note: will cave and wg be kept in an "attic" page somewhere on the
website? Just wondering about people using it and not finding any data
about it anymore.
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would also be consistent with the cloud spirit - even
if the move is not actual most companies target some cloud mindset, in
particular a better dep control - which means lighter distros.
Hope it makes sense.
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Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 20:17, Andrea Cosentino a
écrit :
> Il mer 18 gen 2023, 20:06 Romain Manni-Bucau ha
> scritto:
>
> > Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 19:43, Andrea Cosentino a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The point is
Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 19:43, Andrea Cosentino a
écrit :
> Hello,
>
> The point is just one in relation to OSGi metadata. The components will be
> consumed, also, by runtimes that don't need OSGi metadata, so why all the
> components should be with OSGi metadata and packaged as bundles?
>
I'm
Any hope to evaluate the "bunch" of users which would move to this new
project and not spring-boot/quarkus/anything-hype-cause-$$?
Can be great to see if the community wants to focus on karaf or aggregation
on the long run due to available/active resources.
If we have proofs there is a need and
Hi JB,
Is there a community behind or did people already moved to Karaf so this is
just about killing smix project officially.
Trying to see if it is mainly about having really itests and enriching
features.xml (theorically nothing new) or creating a new distro and almost
a subproject.
Le mer.
Hi JB,
Got the idea but didn't see any user message about Minho not got any
feedback from the enterprise project it comes from it would still be used
so thought it was still just a PoC and therefore was not worth a release.
If there are real users let's do it!
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+1, makes sense since the adoption here leads to some issues which does not
look like trivial to solve community wise.
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Hi
Did you test antora which supports multiversion and repo to build a
consistent website? Sounds like a better plan than docusaurus to me.
Otherwise +1
Le mar. 1 nov. 2022 à 14:57, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a
écrit :
> Hi Maurice,
>
> Yes, that's also my view on cloud: "any computing exposed to
+1
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; with karaf binaries (shell and client command as well as a karaf cli).
>
> I haven’t tried how compatible it would be with Karaf/Gogo commands yet.
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
>
>
> --
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> Von: Romain Manni-Bucau
>
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tay IMHO even wih karaf 5 (said this way the
naming is obviously wrong :D).
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, no?
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world when dev are writing the
prod files directly in the project itself so think are good and already
cover that, it is just not a karaf native thing IMHO but more a build
helper which would sit in log4j2 project (thinking out loud).
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heterogeneous too or more complex at least which is not worth it in almost
all cases.
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+1
Le dim. 19 déc. 2021 à 22:34, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a
écrit :
> Hi everyone,
>
> I submit Apache Karaf runtime 4.3.5 to your vote.
> This release includes Pax Logging 2.0.13 update:
> - with logback 1.2.9 upgrade, fixing CVE-2021-42550
> - with log4j 2.17.0 upgrade, fixing CVE-2021-45105
>
>
+1
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ve forward than keeping postponing which can delay
for more than 1 month the adoption (keep in mind we are in the last work
week in a lot of country since Xmas is coming ;)).
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+1 (to release), in terms of actual security 2.15 or 2.16 does not change
much and karaf has some expected changes so let it go and redo one after if
wished IMHO
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+1 looks good on my apps.
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Hi Steven,
Maybe force jaxb version to an earlier one in karag pluhin dependencies in
your pom.
Le sam. 27 nov. 2021 à 20:05, Steven Huypens a
écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I tried to create my custom Karaf distribution (using karaf-maven-plugin
> 4.3.2) with Java 11 for the first time, and I
The gc is way better on modern jdk, even 11 (post update 6x IIRC for
openjdk but not oracle jdk which was more conservative).
There was also quite a bunch of optim in common operations - like some
String ones.
Can be a way to explain why it is faster.
Le lun. 13 sept. 2021 à 08:05, Grzegorz
+1
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(it is the same on
other repos I reviewed, mainly noise warnings).
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ike that.
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Hi
Le mer. 19 mai 2021 à 11:31, Bernd a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> I noticed that Karaf provides quite useful principals for Roles, Groups and
> Client. But if I want to consume or create those principals in my own code,
> I have to depend on the karaf-boot bundle.
>
> I wonder:
>
> a) would it
Hi Paul,
Did you use the last 4.3 release? Startup bundles shouldn't be randomized
anymore. For features it is a bit more complicated since it is a tree so
guess order can't really be assumed without side effects (whereas it can
for a flat list of bundles).
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Hi
Do you use eclipse or some IDE visiting target/ during the test? Can make
it happen.
Le dim. 18 avr. 2021 à 17:48, Jean-Baptiste Onofre a
écrit :
> Hi Vassil,
>
> Don’t you have two tests running ?
>
> I never had this issue (but I’m not using Windows), and Jenkins works fine.
>
> Do you
+1
(small side note/workaround: the resolver fix is needed on k8s only if the
allocated cpu are not enough = it generally works in prod since you
allocate enough ;))
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Le jeu. 25 mars 2021 à 09:35, Grzegorz Grzybek a
écrit :
> Thanks Romain for the details! (see inline)
>
> czw., 25 mar 2021 o 08:31 Romain Manni-Bucau
> napisał(a):
>
> > Le jeu. 25 mars 2021 à 07:13, Grzegorz Grzybek a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > Good mor
just have
a ServiceLoader kind of SPI for "module service" impls and order them as
needed. a ModuleService { setModuleServiceRegistry(Registry); } would then
do the trick probably, no need of fancy IoC for such low level framework
IMHO.
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Ok :(
Le lun. 15 mars 2021 à 07:49, Jean-Baptiste Onofre a
écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> I created a Jira for infra to rename master branch as main:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21576
>
> Thanks,
> Regards
> JB
>
+1 (non binding)
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+1 for a runtime (or immutable) distribution, makes a lot of sense
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ult option fits better ops IMHO).
Can't it enable to get the best of both worlds somehow?
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Guess it is a long night ;). Any blocker?
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but don't know about the site to be concrete) but it can be
neat to let them go out when some PMC has some cycles.
Wdyt?
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res mainly), it does not have
to leave that space, it will just leave the scope of this space IMHO.
Hope it makes sense.
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ices in a single JVM, financial department will love it and dev will
keep doing what they want, everybody will be happy ;).
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+1, thanks a lot!
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+1, thanks a lot JB
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Great news, R7 really makes OSGi fresher compared to R6!
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Thought that as well but camel, cxf, jaxrs whiteboard etc are other
examples where order is importantbut the symbolic names should be
sufficient to guarantee a good order in most cases too
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at the end I think the order is a requirement of the features - but
still amazed it didnt pop up before.
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it to make it more natural and controlled for end users.
Hope it makes sense.
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makes some sense.
Just my 2cts indeed.
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Up?
Know you didnt write which monday but think it is time ;)
Le mer. 1 juil. 2020 à 10:10, Francois Papon
a écrit :
> +1
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpa...@apache.org
>
> Le 01/07/2020 à 10:08, Romain Manni-Bucau a écrit :
> > +1
> >
> > Romain Manni-B
Looks good to me
@Steinar: it is in the PR (see System.getenv part ;))
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/repo/1.0/xml/features,${featuresRepositories.original}
ORG_APACHE_KARAF_FEATURES_FEATURESBOOT=${featuresBoot.original},my-feature
Guess it just needs to
call org.apache.felix.utils.properties.InterpolationHelper#performSubstitution
on the new properties then drop the additional ones.
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LGTM now, thanks for the work!
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ots are not
accepted in env var IIRC. Since it is not the case for system props, no
reason to apply that transformation IMHO.
Last small note is that env should win over system properties so second
"if" should be preceeded by an "else" IMHO.
Hope it makes sense.
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configuration plugin?
sounds less invasive and better on the long run? Did you give it a try?
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d decision!
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o have all the desired features. Indeed, pax
wouldnt 1-1 delegate to the servlet container but it would be http
whiteboard compatible and still support JSF, JSP, etc..
Hope it makes sense.
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+0, it will make some people feel better (not sure but what i read) and
some other feel worse since it is 1-1 in terms of meaning and
positive/negative sense.
However it is a breaking change to be useful which hurts everyone so maybe
an user vote is better than a dev one?
Le lun. 27 juil. 2020 à
with comments (not even
the Johnzon built-in flavor - C-style - but a spec version) so good to stay
aligned on the spec and felix IMO
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+1 (non binding)
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of making servlet
containers OSGi friendly (think tomcat is, jetty too, not sure for
undertow).
Hope I'm not too "off".
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upgrade jetty when needed which is also a
big loss compared to not having R7 IMHO
How far is paxweb from R7? Not being 100% compliant is fine IMO while:
a. it can be manually switched to a compliant impl if required
b. there is no regression from previous version
Indeed just my 2cts,
Romain Manni
+1
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with a native OSGi
container) so I think it makes sense to let it go out with a "not yet
final" flag.
wdyt?
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+1 (sanity checks mainly and a small app test)
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should likely impact the underlying OSGi framework too.
If this last concept is reached with a state (OSGi state) computed at build
time then Karaf would become a real cloud killer option IMHO.
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cker which are other things IMHO
;)).
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+1 (non binding)
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+1 (NON non binging)
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+1, jdk9plus should disappear to make karaf frictionless IMHO
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layout (OS installation for ex).
It also logs a warning for nothing in several cases:
> karaf: Ignoring predefined value for KARAF_HOME
Wonder if there is any issue to drop the unset block if it is set? Was it
to avoid versions issues? If so, can't we check the major through a lib
file check?
Romai
a "resolver" but we enable to
use some capability based extender with such PR. Guess it will need some
more refinements (only getRequiredWires is impl but not getProvidedWires
for ex) but I think it is enough for a first PR.
Hope it makes sense.
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau <https:
This is a one way choice so then bouncycastle becomes a jre provided lib
(as jaxb was) for consumers and bundles are no more working or use other
actual instances making it potentially corrupted if bundles and part of the
boot - potentially not just karaf jars -must share bc. Also note it would
+1 and thanks a lot for this effort!
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Side note: dropping javax.annotation and its declaration in jre-9 i managed
to move forward and no issue since jre part of karaf uses the jre
automatically and other parts use the bundle i deployed.
So likely some work to do but kind of confirm it is a good option.
Romain Manni-Bucau
to vendors doing custom karaf distros and on this side
they must be able to be secured and use the same distro on multiple JRE and
this is one issue which shouldn't require properties customizations IMHO.
Hope it makes sense.
Romain Manni-Bucau
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proposal is to remove jdk9plus and "force" use of
> spec bundles, right ?
>
> It makes sense to me, but it means that any spec has to be a bundle and
> started in early stage of the boot process.
> If it's possible, it makes sense.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 27/01
Hi all,
Playing with the r7 branch i tried to build an osgi-cdi distro but stumbled
upon the fact jdk9plus folder breaks resolution chain quite easily when
switching of jdk.
Long story short, having annotation, activation (and potentially jaxb but i
didnt need this one ;)) does not enable to
Awesome, this will already be big and enable to use aries osgi-cdi which is
a big step for osgi ecosystem imho.
Thanks a lot JB.
Le ven. 24 janv. 2020 à 05:38, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a
écrit :
> Hi guys,
>
> Just to let you know that the first OSGi R7 support is done:
>
>
+1 (non binding) - for some asf itests and "simple" apps (no multipart in
them ;))
Le dim. 19 janv. 2020 à 22:49, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a
écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I submit Apache Karaf runtime 4.2.8 to your vote. This is a
> maintenance release on the 4.2.x series, bringing updates, improvements
>
+1 a temp classloader using local resolution or plain reimpl of pem read
does not sound terrible to me
Le mer. 15 janv. 2020 à 16:25, Benjamin Graf a
écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I'm actually playing around with the latest 4.3.0-SNAPSHOT. I recognize
> that the ssh bundle is using bouncycastle for reading
Hmm, it is required by spec (104.12.1 of
https://osgi.org/specification/osgi.cmpn/7.0.0/service.cm.html) and used by
consumers like osgi-cdi since it is in the API through
@RequireConfigurationAdmin.
So not sure there is a choice to support it on karaf side.
wdyt?
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau
Hi all,
Is it normal master staticcm module does not exposes osgi.implementation?
([1])
It breaks its usage in several frameworks on top of it.
[1] https://github.com/jbonofre/karaf/pull/25
Romain Manni-Bucau
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+1 (non binding)
Le dim. 12 janv. 2020 à 12:34, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a
écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I submit Apache Karaf runtime 4.2.8 to your vote. This is a
> maintenance release on the 4.2.x series, bringing updates, improvements
> and fixes.
>
> Release Notes:
>
>
Happy new year everyone, may karaf be with you ;)
Le mer. 1 janv. 2020 à 12:52, Grzegorz Grzybek a
écrit :
> Happy new year to everyone!
>
> regards
> Grzegorz Grzybek
>
> śr., 1 sty 2020 o 07:23 Jean-Baptiste Onofré napisał(a):
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > on behalf of the Karaf team, I wish
Hi
Since each instance will get its own port the name is pointless IMO until
all instances are shown in the same jmx tree but here the name would be a
jmx properties so +1 to not have the name in the url (probably with a
comment in the cfg to get back current behavior for users relying on it).
+1 makes sense to give it a try, in particular on an OSGi runtime
Le dim. 17 nov. 2019 à 06:59, Jean-Baptiste Onofré a
écrit :
> Ping ?
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 07/11/2019 09:34, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > As Thanksgiving and Christmas times are coming, we have a new "gift"
ste Onofré
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:38 AM
> >> To: dev@karaf.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [PR/DISCUSS] Interceptor module?
> >>
> >> I think we have two options:
> >>
> >> 1. Explicit name: Karaf IoC
> >> 2. Fan
o (I
> can
> > >>> create it for you) or a new aries repo (again I can create it) or the
> > >> aries
> > >>> main repo. So all options should be pretty quick to do.
> > >>> (Of course if you decide for aries we need an approval from the pmc
karaf will always be changing.
>
> Christian
>
> Am Di., 12. Nov. 2019 um 11:23 Uhr schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Updated the code, last changes are mainly:
> >
> > 1. moving the module in the right parent (I put it in ser
looks almost 100% bound to blueprint so
didn't see it as an option but I don't have a really strong blocker there,
I'll fully trust the OSGi@apache community on that.
[1]
https://github.com/apache/karaf/pull/993/files#diff-6aaf055d932f602b06135e6446ee6c2eR15
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau <ht
ove to
> Karaf IoC later. Up to you.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 11/11/2019 20:49, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> > Guess it is true for all project and I assume "submodule" means
> > "subproject" right?
> > Not sure what it means in practise (new git?) b
Guess it is true for all project and I assume "submodule" means
"subproject" right?
Not sure what it means in practise (new git?) but it is not shocking. Any
proposal karaf-ioc (we could add more feature later this way)? Is it what
you meant?
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau
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