Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Hi, As company making a SDN Controller, it makes sense to me that the Analytics and UI to be proprietary when Juniper decides to do so. IMHO OpenContrail, to Juniper/Contrail’s credit, provides a more mature UI than ODL/ONOS, that we are able to deliver a reasonably production-ready SDN

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Robert V., It may be better to examine this from the eco system point of view, since building a comprehensive suite from scratch is not trivial. We have 2 ecosystems: Telco and Enterprise. Telco is moving towards an ETSi like implementation. So, lets place our bets. I am going to bet that AT

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Sorry about the previous empty message. Keyboard-shortcut booboo. > To your comment on analytics it is a mistake to think of Contrail or Nuage or > Calico as detached solutions. > They are part of entire end to end network and just like it is today with WAN > routers, with DC underlay, > with

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Hello, It's clear that OC would be colloaborate with other SDN controllers, the high level OSS should collect metrics or somthing like from OC and other SDN controllers. Analyzer REST API has supplied a way currtently, without it it would be a nightmare. Regards Gengliang Guo From: Robert

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Well good thing that you are actually not an operator then :) I am happy about that too ;) > [rest of the words] I agree - with a couple "buts": - IMO it would require a new standard for existing and new solutions to

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Łukasz, > as a network operator, when looking for moving my datacenter to > SDN solution, I am not going to consider OpenContrail as viable > product on the market if analytics is gone. Well good thing that you are actually not an operator then :) To your comment on analytics it is a mistake to

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Hi Greg, On 21.09.2017 22:59, Gregory Elkinbard wrote: Lukasz, Couple of notes. 1. Nobody is ripping out analytics. If the community considers them important the project can continue under community leadership. Lets talk to Mirantis or ENEA, maybe they will be willing to contribute

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Lukasz, Couple of notes. 1. Nobody is ripping out analytics. If the community considers them important the project can continue under community leadership. Lets talk to Mirantis or ENEA, maybe they will be willing to contribute some resources to get this going. 1. OpenContrail just

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Harshad Nakil wrote: > I don’t agree with your assertion that contrail is viable product without > contrail analytics shutdown (operational status) > I am not sure if I verbalized properly what I meant - as a network operator, when looking for

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

For the APIs, do not expect to change existing APIs. The protocol will NOT be changed in any way that is not backward-compatible. This has not been an issue for us in practice either – the only changes we have done over the last several years is to add annotations, and this does not break

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

> On Sep 21, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Łukasz Łukasiewicz > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Harshad Nakil > wrote: > 1. Contrail analytics is sigle repository of all the operational state of the >

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

1. Contrail analytics is sigle repository of all the operational state of the system. Think of analytics API as “show commands on the router” Over a period with different requirements from customers, this design has evolved and may have become complicated. Many operators want streaming API for

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Hi Robert, On 21.09.2017 19:13, Van Leeuwen, Robert wrote: 3. Hidden dependencies on analytics in OC AFAIK, svc-monitor relies (or used to rely) on analytics data to learn which vRouters are live and able to receive a service instance. Chances are, there are other places like

Re: [opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Valentine, You have raised some really good points. Analytics is critical and making sure we have a clear road-map is essential. Let's brainstorm on one of the upcoming calls and we should be able to flesh it out together. Regards, Nabeel -Original Message- From: Dev

[opencontrail-dev] [TSC] Analytics and web ui on OC 5.0 and beyond

Hi all, On the yesterday's OpenContrail Summit, it was announced that Juniper will move for proprietary advanced analytics and web ui in CC 5.0+. Current contrail-analytics and contrail-web-ui will remain open, yet their development will be a purely community-based effort. After having some