Re: [opencontrail-dev] Dev Digest, Vol 51, Issue 31

2017-11-28 Thread Valentine Sinitsyn 

Hi all,

On 29.11.2017 06:24, Sukhdev Kapur wrote:

How about the following names:

- OpenController
- OpenSDN

+1 Also thought of this name.


- OpenSDNController


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1. Re: We need a new name (Gregory Elkinbard)

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 Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:22:36 +
 From: Gregory Elkinbard 
 To: Foucault de Bonneval 
 Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
 Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
 Message-ID: <3294f545-2242-4d69-ac62-15b918dc3...@juniper.net>
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 Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign his rights.
 
 I will add One0six the list
 
 Thanks

 Greg
 
 
 From: Foucault de Bonneval 

 Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
 To: Gregory Elkinbard 
 Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
 Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
 
 Hi there,
 
 Got a couple of ideas :

 - "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
 - "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few 
of us
 
 'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.
 
 
 Enjoy,

 Foucault
 
 Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" > a ?crit :

 Dear Community Members.
 Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the 
project as Juniper has Contrail product line.
 We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But 
I am hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.
 
 Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the summit.

 Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
 If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.
 
 Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but will require a new name after a short transition period.
 
 Thanks

 Greg
 
 
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

2017-11-28 Thread Gregory Elkinbard 
Not quite.
Zoom will record presentations and audio. But I do not think we opted for a 
full video set up.
Greg


From:  on behalf of Aniket Daptari 

Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 10:05 PM
To: Sukhdev Kapur 
Cc: "CARVER, PAUL" , Edward Ting , 
"Gasparakis, Joseph" , "Yang, Yi Y" 
, Gregory Elkinbard , 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" , Rudra Rugge 

Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Hi Greg,

Do we plan to video record these sessions?

Thanks,
Aniket


On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Sukhdev Kapur 
> wrote:
+1
Thank you, Paul

-Sukhdev


From: "CARVER, PAUL" >
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 6:12 AM
To: Edward Ting >, "Gasparakis, 
Joseph" >, 
Sukhdev Kapur >, "Yang, Yi Y" 
>, Gregory Elkinbard 
>, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>, Rudra Rugge 
>

Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

I’d like to propose the following in relation to the email chain below and the 
discussions that took place on the TSC call yesterday. I’ve created an Etherpad 
(hoping OpenStack doesn’t mind us using their Etherpad server for 
collaboration) with a copy of README.md from the contrail-installer repo. I 
suggest that everyone who feels inclined to help should go through the Etherpad 
and update it with any corrections they’ve found in getting their environment 
set up. I’ve also created a companion Etherpad for questions/problems that 
people were not able to solve.

After the developer meeting next Wednesday I will take the contents of the 
Etherpad and merge them back into the contrail-installer repo as a hopefully 
more complete and more accurate procedure that people can follow with more 
success and less guesswork. The URLs are:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer-QandA

If/when you edit the first Etherpad, please use Markdown syntax if you need 
formatting, don’t use Etherpad’s formatting toolbar. I would like to just copy 
and paste it back into the Git repo where GitHub will automatically render the 
Markdown formatting. For the second Etherpad, you can use the formatting 
toolbar if you want to. I don’t plan for that second Etherpad to be long lived, 
it’s just to gather questions and discussion topics aimed at fixing the 
README.md file.

--
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From: Edward Ting [mailto:lti...@lenovo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 23:04
To: Gasparakis, Joseph 
>; Sukhdev 
Kapur >; Yang, Yi Y 
>; Gregory Elkinbard 
>; CARVER, PAUL 
>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
>
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda


Sounds good to me.  Let’s work on the fix together next week. In the meantime, 
Yi, feel free to unicast me if you’d like to see my notes earlier than that.

Cheers,

Edward

From: Gasparakis, Joseph [mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:40 PM
To: Sukhdev Kapur; Edward Ting; Yang, Yi Y; Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER, PAUL; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Sure, we can discuss but more importantly it is better

Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

2017-11-28 Thread Aniket Daptari 
Hi Greg,

Do we plan to video record these sessions?

Thanks,
Aniket


On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Sukhdev Kapur  wrote:

> +1
>
> Thank you, Paul
>
>
>
> -Sukhdev
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *"CARVER, PAUL" 
> *Date: *Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 6:12 AM
> *To: *Edward Ting , "Gasparakis, Joseph" <
> joseph.gaspara...@intel.com>, Sukhdev Kapur , "Yang,
> Yi Y" , Gregory Elkinbard , "
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org" , Rudra Rugge <
> rru...@juniper.net>
>
> *Subject: *RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> I’d like to propose the following in relation to the email chain below and
> the discussions that took place on the TSC call yesterday. I’ve created an
> Etherpad (hoping OpenStack doesn’t mind us using their Etherpad server for
> collaboration) with a copy of README.md from the contrail-installer repo. I
> suggest that everyone who feels inclined to help should go through the
> Etherpad and update it with any corrections they’ve found in getting their
> environment set up. I’ve also created a companion Etherpad for
> questions/problems that people were not able to solve.
>
>
>
> After the developer meeting next Wednesday I will take the contents of the
> Etherpad and merge them back into the contrail-installer repo as a
> hopefully more complete and more accurate procedure that people can follow
> with more success and less guesswork. The URLs are:
>
>
>
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer
> 
>
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer-QandA
> 
>
>
>
> If/when you edit the first Etherpad, please use Markdown syntax if you
> need formatting, don’t use Etherpad’s formatting toolbar. I would like to
> just copy and paste it back into the Git repo where GitHub will
> automatically render the Markdown formatting. For the second Etherpad, you
> can use the formatting toolbar if you want to. I don’t plan for that second
> Etherpad to be long lived, it’s just to gather questions and discussion
> topics aimed at fixing the README.md file.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Paul Carver
>
> VoIP: 732-545-7377 <(732)%20545-7377>
>
> Cell: 908-803-1656 <(908)%20803-1656>
>
> E: pcar...@att.com
>
> Q Instant Message
>
> It is difficult to make predictions. Especially about the future.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Edward Ting [mailto:lti...@lenovo.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2017 23:04
> *To:* Gasparakis, Joseph ; Sukhdev Kapur <
> sukh...@juniper.net>; Yang, Yi Y ; Gregory Elkinbard
> ; CARVER, PAUL ;
> dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
> *Subject:* RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
>
>
> Sounds good to me.  Let’s work on the fix together next week. In the
> meantime, Yi, feel free to unicast me if you’d like to see my notes earlier
> than that.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Edward
>
>
>
> *From:* Gasparakis, Joseph [mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:40 PM
> *To:* Sukhdev Kapur; Edward Ting; Yang, Yi Y; Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER,
> PAUL; dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge
> *Subject:* RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda
>
>
>
> Sure, we can discuss but more importantly it is better to put together a
> taskforce to get this done:
>
>
>
> -  Edward said they have some fixes
>
> -  Valentine during the TSC call also mentioned that probably
> they can contribute their process to build and deploy
>
> -  Paul with the rest of Infrastructure group are also putting
> the CI/CD in place
>
> -  I have mentioned in the past have a way to build OpenContrail
> (but not deploy)
>
>
>
> Combining all the above we should be able to fix the issue sooner rather
> than later. I can pull the above people together and start working on this.
> Output will be documentation (worse case) or chef/pupper/ansible manifests
> at best…
>
>
>
> And Yi: I think you are recently started catching with the community up.
> This issue has been identified long ago, we all know about it, people
> (especially Infrastructure committee and other outside) work on a fix. It
> doesn’t happen overnight and it is up to all of us to put “our house in
> order”. So let’s see how we can do

Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

2017-11-28 Thread Sukhdev Kapur 
+1
Thank you, Paul

-Sukhdev


From: "CARVER, PAUL" 
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 6:12 AM
To: Edward Ting , "Gasparakis, Joseph" 
, Sukhdev Kapur , "Yang, Yi 
Y" , Gregory Elkinbard , 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" , Rudra Rugge 

Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

I’d like to propose the following in relation to the email chain below and the 
discussions that took place on the TSC call yesterday. I’ve created an Etherpad 
(hoping OpenStack doesn’t mind us using their Etherpad server for 
collaboration) with a copy of README.md from the contrail-installer repo. I 
suggest that everyone who feels inclined to help should go through the Etherpad 
and update it with any corrections they’ve found in getting their environment 
set up. I’ve also created a companion Etherpad for questions/problems that 
people were not able to solve.

After the developer meeting next Wednesday I will take the contents of the 
Etherpad and merge them back into the contrail-installer repo as a hopefully 
more complete and more accurate procedure that people can follow with more 
success and less guesswork. The URLs are:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer-QandA

If/when you edit the first Etherpad, please use Markdown syntax if you need 
formatting, don’t use Etherpad’s formatting toolbar. I would like to just copy 
and paste it back into the Git repo where GitHub will automatically render the 
Markdown formatting. For the second Etherpad, you can use the formatting 
toolbar if you want to. I don’t plan for that second Etherpad to be long lived, 
it’s just to gather questions and discussion topics aimed at fixing the 
README.md file.

--
Paul Carver
VoIP: 732-545-7377
Cell: 908-803-1656
E: pcar...@att.com
Q Instant Message
It is difficult to make predictions. Especially about the future.


From: Edward Ting [mailto:lti...@lenovo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 23:04
To: Gasparakis, Joseph ; Sukhdev Kapur 
; Yang, Yi Y ; Gregory Elkinbard 
; CARVER, PAUL ; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda


Sounds good to me.  Let’s work on the fix together next week. In the meantime, 
Yi, feel free to unicast me if you’d like to see my notes earlier than that.

Cheers,

Edward

From: Gasparakis, Joseph [mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:40 PM
To: Sukhdev Kapur; Edward Ting; Yang, Yi Y; Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER, PAUL; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Sure, we can discuss but more importantly it is better to put together a 
taskforce to get this done:


-  Edward said they have some fixes

-  Valentine during the TSC call also mentioned that probably they can 
contribute their process to build and deploy

-  Paul with the rest of Infrastructure group are also putting the 
CI/CD in place

-  I have mentioned in the past have a way to build OpenContrail (but 
not deploy)

Combining all the above we should be able to fix the issue sooner rather than 
later. I can pull the above people together and start working on this. Output 
will be documentation (worse case) or chef/pupper/ansible manifests at best…

And Yi: I think you are recently started catching with the community up. This 
issue has been identified long ago, we all know about it, people (especially 
Infrastructure committee and other outside) work on a fix. It doesn’t happen 
overnight and it is up to all of us to put “our house in order”. So let’s see 
how we can do our share moving forward ;-)

So, any volunteers to put some sort of OpenContrail installation together 
(single or multi node) to start with please let us know and I will pull 
everyone together next week.

Regards,

Joseph



From: Sukhdev Kapur [mailto:sukh...@juniper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:58 PM
To: Edward Ting >; Yang, Yi Y

Re: [opencontrail-dev] Dev Digest, Vol 51, Issue 31

2017-11-28 Thread Sukhdev Kapur 
How about the following names:

- OpenController
- OpenSDN
- OpenSDNController


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   1. Re: We need a new name (Gregory Elkinbard)
   2. Re: We need a new name (Gregory Elkinbard)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:22:36 +
From: Gregory Elkinbard 
To: Foucault de Bonneval 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
Message-ID: <3294f545-2242-4d69-ac62-15b918dc3...@juniper.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is 
unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign 
his rights.

I will add One0six the list

Thanks
Greg


From: Foucault de Bonneval 
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of 
us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
> a ?crit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the 
project as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But 
I am hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during 
the summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg


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From: Gregory Elkinbard 
To: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
Message-ID: <29074623-1870-4e19-a2c0-66709361e...@juniper.net>
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List of names proposed is here

Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Randy Bias 
I respectfully request we avoid lawyering while discussing a new name.  Let’s 
focus on something that we love and are proud of.  Something that gets people 
excited about the project.

Hopefully we will wind up with 5-10 great choices.  At that point we’ll get 
some legal opinions and then shortlist and vote on it.


Thank you,


--Randy

Vice President, Technology & Strategy, Cloud Software
Juniper Networks
+1 (415) 787-2253 [Google Voice]
ASSISTANT: Stephanie Concepcion, 
sconcepc...@juniper.net
TWITTER: @randybias
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From:  on behalf of Robert Raszuk 
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 2:06 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard 
Cc: Randy Bias , Ankur Singla , 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

While I suggested DCV before to Greg offline the real question here is if you 
want this to be a new name independent from Juniper's parent or something which 
is still seen as maintaining this relation going forward.

If the latter how about simply: Kontrail ?

Legally different - product wise quite similar :)

Best,
R.


On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Gregory Elkinbard 
> wrote:
Registered by Hitachi.
Unrelated to computers, but they can still sue.
Strimmor – which is contrail in Swedish is still open.

Greg



From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Randy Bias >
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:38 PM
To: Ankur Singla >, 
"dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>

Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

This is pretty good.  +1



--Randy

Vice President, Technology & Strategy, Cloud Software
Juniper Networks
+1 (415) 787-2253 [Google Voice]
ASSISTANT: Stephanie Concepcion, 
sconcepc...@juniper.net
TWITTER: @randybias
LINKEDIN: 
linkedin.com/in/randybias


From: Dev 
> 
on behalf of Ankur Singla >
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:04 PM
To: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name


I would nominate “Hikoki” - it means Contrail in Japanese.




Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:22:36 +
From: Gregory Elkinbard >
To: Foucault de Bonneval >
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
Message-ID: 
<3294f545-2242-4d69-ac62-15b918dc3...@juniper.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is 
unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign 
his rights.

I will add One0six the list

Thanks
Greg


From: Foucault de Bonneval 
>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard >
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
>
 a ?crit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not

Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Gregory Elkinbard 
Registered by Hitachi.
Unrelated to computers, but they can still sue.
Strimmor – which is contrail in Swedish is still open.

Greg



From: Dev  on behalf of Randy Bias 

Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:38 PM
To: Ankur Singla , "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 

Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

This is pretty good.  +1



--Randy

Vice President, Technology & Strategy, Cloud Software
Juniper Networks
+1 (415) 787-2253 [Google Voice]
ASSISTANT: Stephanie Concepcion, 
sconcepc...@juniper.net
TWITTER: @randybias
LINKEDIN: linkedin.com/in/randybias


From: Dev  on behalf of Ankur Singla 

Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 1:04 PM
To: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name


I would nominate “Hikoki” - it means Contrail in Japanese.




Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:22:36 +
From: Gregory Elkinbard >
To: Foucault de Bonneval >
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name
Message-ID: 
<3294f545-2242-4d69-ac62-15b918dc3...@juniper.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is 
unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign 
his rights.

I will add One0six the list

Thanks
Greg


From: Foucault de Bonneval 
>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard >
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
>
 a ?crit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Randy Bias 
I’m going to recommend we avoid anything with “vapor” in it due to the possible 
negative connotations.


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From: Dev  on behalf of Saim Khan 

Reply-To: "saim.k...@colorado.edu" 
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:46 PM
To: "ext-edgar.mag...@workday.com" 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi All,

How about Open-VaporTrail. Meaning remains the same.

On 28-Nov-2017 12:25 PM, "Edgar Magana" 
> wrote:
What about keeping the Open with something like “OpenVRouter”?
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Rob Hirschfeld 
> wrote:
 from the school of less change is better... "ComRail"  
http://comrail.com/
 is actually available.

sort of like the Food Lion vs Food Town history, but may be enough.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM Foucault de Bonneval 
> wrote:
Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
> a écrit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg


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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Ankur Singla 

I would nominate “Hikoki” - it means Contrail in Japanese.




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Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is 
unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign 
his rights.

I will add One0six the list

Thanks
Greg


From: Foucault de Bonneval 
>
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard >
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
>
 a ?crit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Saim Khan 
Hi All,

How about Open-VaporTrail. Meaning remains the same.

On 28-Nov-2017 12:25 PM, "Edgar Magana"  wrote:

> What about keeping the Open with something like “OpenVRouter”?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Rob Hirschfeld  wrote:
>
>  from the school of less change is better... "ComRail"
> http://comrail.com/
> 
>  is
> actually available.
>
> sort of like the Food Lion vs Food Town history, but may be enough.
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM Foucault de Bonneval <
> fouca...@thaumiers.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Got a couple of ideas :
>> - "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
>> - "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few
>> of us
>>
>> 'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.
>>
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Foucault
>>
>> Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard"  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Dear Community Members.
>>>
>>> Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the
>>> project as Juniper has Contrail product line.
>>>
>>> We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail.
>>> But I am hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it
>>> during the summit.
>>>
>>> Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently
>>> trademarked.
>>>
>>> If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked
>>> by another entity.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name,
>>> but will require a new name after a short transition period.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Gregory Elkinbard 
List of names proposed is here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tSx3PLQbyojqJZHStl6fetDU3lX5774mItajbFWOccc/edit



From: Dev  on behalf of Gregory Elkinbard 

Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:23 PM
To: Foucault de Bonneval 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is 
unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign 
his rights.

I will add One0six the list

Thanks
Greg


From: Foucault de Bonneval 
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
> a écrit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Gregory Elkinbard 
Personal names cannot be trademarked in general in USA, unless the name is 
unique and the person doing the trademarking owns the name or choses to assign 
his rights.

I will add One0six the list

Thanks
Greg


From: Foucault de Bonneval 
Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM
To: Gregory Elkinbard 
Cc: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
> a écrit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
Greg


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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Gregory Elkinbard 
Hey folks,
As you get your creative hats on, please remember that the name will serve to 
advertise our community and attract new users. Ideally, we would want to evoke 
what we do in the name, such as network and security.

Thanks
Greg


From: Dev  on behalf of Gregory Elkinbard 

Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM
To: "dev@lists.opencontrail.org" 
Subject: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Edgar Magana 
What about keeping the Open with something like “OpenVRouter”?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 28, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Rob Hirschfeld 
> wrote:

 from the school of less change is better... "ComRail"  
http://comrail.com/
 is actually available.

sort of like the Food Lion vs Food Town history, but may be enough.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM Foucault de Bonneval 
> wrote:
Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard" 
> a écrit :
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Rob Hirschfeld 
 from the school of less change is better... "ComRail"  http://comrail.com/ is
actually available.

sort of like the Food Lion vs Food Town history, but may be enough.

On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:07 PM Foucault de Bonneval <
fouca...@thaumiers.com> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Got a couple of ideas :
> - "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
> - "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few
> of us
>
> 'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.
>
>
> Enjoy,
> Foucault
>
> Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard"  a
> écrit :
>
>> Dear Community Members.
>>
>> Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the
>> project as Juniper has Contrail product line.
>>
>> We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail.
>> But I am hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it
>> during the summit.
>>
>> Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently
>> trademarked.
>>
>> If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked
>> by another entity.
>>
>>
>>
>> Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name,
>> but will require a new name after a short transition period.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Foucault de Bonneval 
Hi there,

Got a couple of ideas :
- "Ankur" as a mark of respect to Contrail System's CEO
- "One0six" as the first version release deployed in production by a few of
us

'Am no marketing guy as could have guessed from my proposals.


Enjoy,
Foucault

Le 28 nov. 2017 8:27 PM, "Gregory Elkinbard"  a
écrit :

> Dear Community Members.
>
> Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the
> project as Juniper has Contrail product line.
>
> We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But
> I am hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.
>
>
>
> Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during
> the summit.
>
> Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently
> trademarked.
>
> If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by
> another entity.
>
>
>
> Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name,
> but will require a new name after a short transition period.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
>
>
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[opencontrail-dev] We need a new name

2017-11-28 Thread Gregory Elkinbard 
Dear Community Members.
Linux Foundation is unable to accept OpenContrail as a trademark to the project 
as Juniper has Contrail product line.
We need to select a different name. Legal team has offered OpenVTrail. But I am 
hoping that folks can come up with something cooler.

Please send in your name proposals, by Dec 4th and lets discuss it during the 
summit.
Requirements for the name. Full name must be unique and not currently 
trademarked.
If the name is a composite, no part of the composite can be trademarked by 
another entity.

Linux foundation can temporarily accept us under the OpenContrail name, but 
will require a new name after a short transition period.

Thanks
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Re: [opencontrail-dev] Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

2017-11-28 Thread CARVER, PAUL 
I’d like to propose the following in relation to the email chain below and the 
discussions that took place on the TSC call yesterday. I’ve created an Etherpad 
(hoping OpenStack doesn’t mind us using their Etherpad server for 
collaboration) with a copy of README.md from the contrail-installer repo. I 
suggest that everyone who feels inclined to help should go through the Etherpad 
and update it with any corrections they’ve found in getting their environment 
set up. I’ve also created a companion Etherpad for questions/problems that 
people were not able to solve.

After the developer meeting next Wednesday I will take the contents of the 
Etherpad and merge them back into the contrail-installer repo as a hopefully 
more complete and more accurate procedure that people can follow with more 
success and less guesswork. The URLs are:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/oc-tscwg-installer-QandA

If/when you edit the first Etherpad, please use Markdown syntax if you need 
formatting, don’t use Etherpad’s formatting toolbar. I would like to just copy 
and paste it back into the Git repo where GitHub will automatically render the 
Markdown formatting. For the second Etherpad, you can use the formatting 
toolbar if you want to. I don’t plan for that second Etherpad to be long lived, 
it’s just to gather questions and discussion topics aimed at fixing the 
README.md file.

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From: Edward Ting [mailto:lti...@lenovo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 23:04
To: Gasparakis, Joseph ; Sukhdev Kapur 
; Yang, Yi Y ; Gregory Elkinbard 
; CARVER, PAUL ; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda


Sounds good to me.  Let’s work on the fix together next week. In the meantime, 
Yi, feel free to unicast me if you’d like to see my notes earlier than that.

Cheers,

Edward

From: Gasparakis, Joseph [mailto:joseph.gaspara...@intel.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 6:40 PM
To: Sukhdev Kapur; Edward Ting; Yang, Yi Y; Gregory Elkinbard; CARVER, PAUL; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge
Subject: RE: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Sure, we can discuss but more importantly it is better to put together a 
taskforce to get this done:


-  Edward said they have some fixes

-  Valentine during the TSC call also mentioned that probably they can 
contribute their process to build and deploy

-  Paul with the rest of Infrastructure group are also putting the 
CI/CD in place

-  I have mentioned in the past have a way to build OpenContrail (but 
not deploy)

Combining all the above we should be able to fix the issue sooner rather than 
later. I can pull the above people together and start working on this. Output 
will be documentation (worse case) or chef/pupper/ansible manifests at best…

And Yi: I think you are recently started catching with the community up. This 
issue has been identified long ago, we all know about it, people (especially 
Infrastructure committee and other outside) work on a fix. It doesn’t happen 
overnight and it is up to all of us to put “our house in order”. So let’s see 
how we can do our share moving forward ;-)

So, any volunteers to put some sort of OpenContrail installation together 
(single or multi node) to start with please let us know and I will pull 
everyone together next week.

Regards,

Joseph



From: Sukhdev Kapur [mailto:sukh...@juniper.net]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 4:58 PM
To: Edward Ting >; Yang, Yi Y 
>; Gregory Elkinbard 
>; CARVER, PAUL 
>; Gasparakis, Joseph 
>; 
dev@lists.opencontrail.org; Rudra Rugge 
>
Subject: Re: Proposed OpenContrail @ KubeCon agenda

Edward, Yi, et. all,

I am the newest member of the OpenContrail team and have had my share of issues 
trying to install OpenContrail. Therefore, I do appreciate what you are saying. 
I am all for documenting the issues and solutions so that, as a community, we 
can all leverage from each other’s pain points and solutions.
Having said that, why don’t we come up with a place “OpenContrail User Central” 
(or something like that) where we can start to post these kinds of 
solutions/fixes so that other can leverage from each other’s work.

Joseph, shall we discuss this in our next TSC meeting?

-Sukhdev




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