Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Hostetter
: thats the whole problem with /api: its not defined at all. it has bee nvery clearly defined since it was created: the latest javadocs ... just because we no longer explicitly link to it, doesn't mean we should stop trying to live up to the point of the link -- especially not when it's so

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Chris Hostetter
: that's not what I mean. api/ should die. but I'm ok with api-3 that points Well then you and i have radically differnet opinions about SEO and good long term URL practices. it's one thing to say that a URL like /java/2_9_0/.../Foo.html should be allowed to start 404ing once the 2.9.0

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Robert Muir
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: : that's not what I mean. api/ should die. but I'm ok with api-3 that points Well then you and i have radically differnet opinions about SEO and good long term URL practices. clearly we do: i care about

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Chris Hostetter
: Well then you and i have radically differnet opinions about SEO and good : long term URL practices. : : clearly we do: i care about documentation not having broken links. : : but linking to api/ is fucked up. Those links *will break* when the api changes. Some of the existing URLs will

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Robert Muir
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: : Well then you and i have radically differnet opinions about SEO and good : long term URL practices. : : clearly we do: i care about documentation not having broken links. : : but linking to api/ is fucked

RE: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Uwe Schindler
7:35 PM To: dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: : that's not what I mean. api/ should die. but I'm ok with api-3 that points Well then you and i have

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Chris Hostetter
: My primary concern is that as long as there are current javadocs : somewhere, then /solr/api/.* should redirect to them so that existing : linkages don't break. it's trivial to keep up to date, and it doesn't : hurt anything. : : i dont think we should have a 'current' javadocs link

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Robert Muir
-Original Message- From: Robert Muir [mailto:rcm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 7:35 PM To: dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: : that's

RE: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Chris Hostetter
: I would make a perm redirect (301) from api/ - api3/. : api3/ - api-3.6.0 would be a 302 redirect, as it is official. That assumes that anyone who linked or bookmarked /api specificly expected the 3.x links. /solr/api/... has existed since solr 1.1 and has always been updated to be the

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Robert Muir
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: : I would make a perm redirect (301) from api/ - api3/. : api3/ - api-3.6.0 would be a 302 redirect, as it is official. That assumes that anyone who linked or bookmarked /api specificly expected the 3.x links.

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com wrote: same goes for download redirect links (I will open an issue tomorrow: either we remove these download redirect llinks completely, or we fix them to take versions I don't know the details behind the download redirect links

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-04 Thread Robert Muir
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Yonik Seeley yo...@lucidimagination.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com wrote: same goes for download redirect links (I will open an issue tomorrow: either we remove these download redirect llinks completely, or we fix them to

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-03 Thread Robert Muir
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: just brought this up on #lucene-dev .. the SOlr 3.6.0 javadocs are gone from the site, and all javadoc URLs were broken as a result they aren't broken: i fixed all these api/ links across the website. where is a

RE: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-03 Thread Steven A Rowe
javadocs are missing from the site On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: just brought this up on #lucene-dev .. the SOlr 3.6.0 javadocs are gone from the site, and all javadoc URLs were broken as a result they aren't broken: i fixed all these api/ links

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Hostetter
: just brought this up on #lucene-dev .. the SOlr 3.6.0 javadocs are gone from : the site, and all javadoc URLs were broken as a result : : they aren't broken: i fixed all these api/ links across the website. : where is a broken link? Until i added the redirect in .htaccess (so they would

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-03 Thread Robert Muir
my problem is the unversioned url. with this links break, but in subtle ways. another horrible example of this is old news blurbs for previous releases, because they use an unversioned redirect url so they go to the wrong place. that's why I removed old news blurbs. these unversioned links should

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-03 Thread Chris Hostetter
: these unversioned links should die, die, die. but can we compromise here? : instead can we have api-3 and api-4, etc. we realize some external links : could still break, but given our back compat policy it should be rare... that's exactly what i'm saying .. sarowe alredy put the 3.x javadocs

Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-03 Thread Robert Muir
that's not what I mean. api/ should die. but I'm ok with api-3 that points to 3.6.0 and so on as the links should never disappear within a major release (except heavy breaks) On Jul 3, 2012 6:19 PM, Chris Hostetter hossman_luc...@fucit.org wrote: : these unversioned links should die, die, die.

RE: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site

2012-07-03 Thread Uwe Schindler
://www.thetaphi.de/ http://www.thetaphi.de eMail: u...@thetaphi.de From: Robert Muir [mailto:rcm...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:23 AM To: dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Solr 3.6.0 javadocs are missing from the site that's not what I mean. api/ should die. but I'm ok with api-3