Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Just catching up after a couple of weeks away here; phew there is lots going on! Re splitting the projects, there has been some project reorganization (we created a new TLP in Apache), but no real change yet. I think the idea is to get the software separated, and then people will follow their hearts/interests. For tracking the software re-org, we have this issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-14497 On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 1:41 AM Marcus Eagan wrote: > > Hi All, > > When do these projects separate into their own TLP's? What is the timeline? > Or is there documentation on the process of splitting an existing project > into two separate projects? > > Best, > > Marcus > > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:51 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: >> >> It is now Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 8:46 AM GMT. >> >> A re-spin of the vote closing/ summary. >> >> 48 votes have been posted: 37 from PMC members, 8 from committers and >> 3 from user community. >> >> From this total 8 people voted -1 and 40 people voted +1. Vote >> distribution among PMC members (binding votes): >> >> [+1]: 33 >> [-1]: 4 >> >> The vote has passed. >> >> Dawid >> >> All collected votes in a spreadsheet: >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing >> >> And in plain text: >> >> +1 >> >> PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhy...@gmail.com) >> PMC Doron Cohen (cdor...@gmail.com) >> PMC Shai Erera (ser...@gmail.com) >> PMC Ryan Ernst (r...@iernst.net) >> COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.feren...@gmail.com) >> PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodne...@gmail.com) >> PMC Dennis Gove (dpg...@gmail.com) >> PMC Adrien Grand (jpou...@gmail.com) >> PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.gronin...@gmail.com) >> PMC Mark Harwood (mharw...@apache.org) >> PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatc...@gmail.com) >> PMC Shawn Heisey (apa...@elyograg.org) >> PMC Jan Høydahl (jan@cominvent.com) >> COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0...@gmail.com) >> PMC Nicholas Knize (nkn...@gmail.com) >> PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinman...@gmail.com) >> PMC Michael McCandless (luc...@mikemccandless.com) >> PMC Christian Moen (c...@atilika.com) >> -- Gora Mohanty (g...@mimirtech.com) >> PMC Robert Muir (rcm...@gmail.com) >> PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid) >> PMC Kevin Risden (kris...@apache.org) >> PMC Steven A Rowe (sar...@gmail.com) >> PMC Uwe Schindler (u...@thetaphi.de) >> PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekigu...@rondhuit.com) >> COMMITTER Atri Sharma (a...@apache.org) >> -- Lucky Sharma (goku0...@gmail.com) >> PMC David Smiley (david.w.smi...@gmail.com) >> COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msoko...@gmail.com) >> PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teof...@gmail.com) >> PMC Varun Thacker (va...@vthacker.in) >> COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com) >> PMC Andi Vajda (o...@ovaltofu.org) >> PMC Ignacio Vera (iver...@gmail.com) >> PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.we...@gmail.com) >> PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willna...@gmail.com) >> PMC Alan Woodward (romseyg...@gmail.com) >> PMC Karl Wright (daddy...@gmail.com) >> COMMITTER Alexandre Rafalovitch (arafa...@gmail.com) >> PMC Andrzej Białecki (a...@getopt.org) >> >> -1 >> >> PMC Joel Bernstein (joels...@gmail.com) >> COMMITTER Mike Drob (md...@apache.org) >> PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowsk...@gmail.com) >> PMC Anshum Gupta (ans...@anshumgupta.net) >> COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.h...@gmail.com) >> COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_luc...@fucit.org) >> PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflo...@gmail.com) >> -- Kevin Watters (kwatt...@kmwllc.com) >> >> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: >> > >> > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! >> > >> > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> > independent entities. >> > >> > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems >> > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 >> > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and >> > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, >> > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make >> > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. >> > >> > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a >> > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The >> > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the >> > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are >> > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I >> > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- >> > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I >> > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put >> > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the >> > future (as some folks worry it may),
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Hi All, When do these projects separate into their own TLP's? What is the timeline? Or is there documentation on the process of splitting an existing project into two separate projects? Best, Marcus On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:51 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > It is now Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 8:46 AM GMT. > > A re-spin of the vote closing/ summary. > > 48 votes have been posted: 37 from PMC members, 8 from committers and > 3 from user community. > > From this total 8 people voted -1 and 40 people voted +1. Vote > distribution among PMC members (binding votes): > > [+1]: 33 > [-1]: 4 > > The vote has passed. > > Dawid > > All collected votes in a spreadsheet: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing > > And in plain text: > > +1 > > PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhy...@gmail.com) > PMC Doron Cohen (cdor...@gmail.com) > PMC Shai Erera (ser...@gmail.com) > PMC Ryan Ernst (r...@iernst.net) > COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.feren...@gmail.com) > PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodne...@gmail.com) > PMC Dennis Gove (dpg...@gmail.com) > PMC Adrien Grand (jpou...@gmail.com) > PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.gronin...@gmail.com) > PMC Mark Harwood (mharw...@apache.org) > PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatc...@gmail.com) > PMC Shawn Heisey (apa...@elyograg.org) > PMC Jan Høydahl (jan@cominvent.com) > COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0...@gmail.com) > PMC Nicholas Knize (nkn...@gmail.com) > PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinman...@gmail.com) > PMC Michael McCandless (luc...@mikemccandless.com) > PMC Christian Moen (c...@atilika.com) > -- Gora Mohanty (g...@mimirtech.com) > PMC Robert Muir (rcm...@gmail.com) > PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid) > PMC Kevin Risden (kris...@apache.org) > PMC Steven A Rowe (sar...@gmail.com) > PMC Uwe Schindler (u...@thetaphi.de) > PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekigu...@rondhuit.com) > COMMITTER Atri Sharma (a...@apache.org) > -- Lucky Sharma (goku0...@gmail.com) > PMC David Smiley (david.w.smi...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msoko...@gmail.com) > PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teof...@gmail.com) > PMC Varun Thacker (va...@vthacker.in) > COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com) > PMC Andi Vajda (o...@ovaltofu.org) > PMC Ignacio Vera (iver...@gmail.com) > PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.we...@gmail.com) > PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willna...@gmail.com) > PMC Alan Woodward (romseyg...@gmail.com) > PMC Karl Wright (daddy...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Alexandre Rafalovitch (arafa...@gmail.com) > PMC Andrzej Białecki (a...@getopt.org) > > -1 > > PMC Joel Bernstein (joels...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Mike Drob (md...@apache.org) > PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowsk...@gmail.com) > PMC Anshum Gupta (ans...@anshumgupta.net) > COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.h...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_luc...@fucit.org) > PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflo...@gmail.com) > -- Kevin Watters (kwatt...@kmwllc.com) > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > > > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > > independent entities. > > > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
It is now Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 8:46 AM GMT. A re-spin of the vote closing/ summary. 48 votes have been posted: 37 from PMC members, 8 from committers and 3 from user community. >From this total 8 people voted -1 and 40 people voted +1. Vote distribution among PMC members (binding votes): [+1]: 33 [-1]: 4 The vote has passed. Dawid All collected votes in a spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing And in plain text: +1 PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhy...@gmail.com) PMC Doron Cohen (cdor...@gmail.com) PMC Shai Erera (ser...@gmail.com) PMC Ryan Ernst (r...@iernst.net) COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.feren...@gmail.com) PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodne...@gmail.com) PMC Dennis Gove (dpg...@gmail.com) PMC Adrien Grand (jpou...@gmail.com) PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.gronin...@gmail.com) PMC Mark Harwood (mharw...@apache.org) PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatc...@gmail.com) PMC Shawn Heisey (apa...@elyograg.org) PMC Jan Høydahl (jan@cominvent.com) COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0...@gmail.com) PMC Nicholas Knize (nkn...@gmail.com) PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinman...@gmail.com) PMC Michael McCandless (luc...@mikemccandless.com) PMC Christian Moen (c...@atilika.com) -- Gora Mohanty (g...@mimirtech.com) PMC Robert Muir (rcm...@gmail.com) PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid) PMC Kevin Risden (kris...@apache.org) PMC Steven A Rowe (sar...@gmail.com) PMC Uwe Schindler (u...@thetaphi.de) PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekigu...@rondhuit.com) COMMITTER Atri Sharma (a...@apache.org) -- Lucky Sharma (goku0...@gmail.com) PMC David Smiley (david.w.smi...@gmail.com) COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msoko...@gmail.com) PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teof...@gmail.com) PMC Varun Thacker (va...@vthacker.in) COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com) PMC Andi Vajda (o...@ovaltofu.org) PMC Ignacio Vera (iver...@gmail.com) PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.we...@gmail.com) PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willna...@gmail.com) PMC Alan Woodward (romseyg...@gmail.com) PMC Karl Wright (daddy...@gmail.com) COMMITTER Alexandre Rafalovitch (arafa...@gmail.com) PMC Andrzej Białecki (a...@getopt.org) -1 PMC Joel Bernstein (joels...@gmail.com) COMMITTER Mike Drob (md...@apache.org) PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowsk...@gmail.com) PMC Anshum Gupta (ans...@anshumgupta.net) COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.h...@gmail.com) COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_luc...@fucit.org) PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflo...@gmail.com) -- Kevin Watters (kwatt...@kmwllc.com) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E - To unsubscribe, e-mail:
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) > On 18 May 2020, at 10:46, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > I am closing this vote, thank you for participating. > > 46 votes have been posted: 35 from PMC members, 8 from committers and > 3 from user community. > > From this total 8 people voted -1 and 38 people voted +1. Vote > distribution among PMC members (binding votes): > > [+1]: 31 > [-1]: 4 > > The vote has passed. I will follow-up on the process from here on in a > separate email. > > Dawid > > All collected votes in a spreadsheet: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing > > And in plain text: > > +1 > > PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhy...@gmail.com) > PMC Doron Cohen (cdor...@gmail.com) > PMC Shai Erera (ser...@gmail.com) > PMC Ryan Ernst (r...@iernst.net) > COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.feren...@gmail.com) > PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodne...@gmail.com) > PMC Dennis Gove (dpg...@gmail.com) > PMC Adrien Grand (jpou...@gmail.com) > PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.gronin...@gmail.com) > PMC Mark Harwood (mharw...@apache.org) > PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatc...@gmail.com) > PMC Shawn Heisey (apa...@elyograg.org) > PMC Jan Høydahl (jan@cominvent.com) > COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0...@gmail.com) > PMC Nicholas Knize (nkn...@gmail.com) > PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinman...@gmail.com) > PMC Michael McCandless (luc...@mikemccandless.com) > PMC Christian Moen (c...@atilika.com) > -- Gora Mohanty (g...@mimirtech.com) > PMC Robert Muir (rcm...@gmail.com) > PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid) > PMC Kevin Risden (kris...@apache.org) > PMC Steven A Rowe (sar...@gmail.com) > PMC Uwe Schindler (u...@thetaphi.de) > PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekigu...@rondhuit.com) > COMMITTER Atri Sharma (a...@apache.org) > -- Lucky Sharma (goku0...@gmail.com) > PMC David Smiley (david.w.smi...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msoko...@gmail.com) > PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teof...@gmail.com) > PMC Varun Thacker (va...@vthacker.in) > COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com) > PMC Andi Vajda (o...@ovaltofu.org) > PMC Ignacio Vera (iver...@gmail.com) > PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.we...@gmail.com) > PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willna...@gmail.com) > PMC Alan Woodward (romseyg...@gmail.com) > PMC Karl Wright (daddy...@gmail.com) > > -1 > > PMC Joel Bernstein (joels...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Mike Drob (md...@apache.org) > PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowsk...@gmail.com) > PMC Anshum Gupta (ans...@anshumgupta.net) > COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.h...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_luc...@fucit.org) > PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflo...@gmail.com) > -- Kevin Watters (kwatt...@kmwllc.com) > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Sure, I'd considered timezones before responding. The archive permalink for the original message shows a date of "Tue, 12 May 2020 07:36:57 GMT". Permalink: https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/202005.mbox/%3CCAM21Rt-PjpVYKsThzAKJbbPT3OeuVdgnVSZ3E_QEoWfpLNd0%3DQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 11:48 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > > The vote began on May 12th and the initial message said it will "be > active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > > and cast a vote". > > I thought I'd sent it on Monday, which would make a week today. Time > zones will also kick in because I live in Europe... I can wait a day > more - not a problem. > > D. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
> The vote began on May 12th and the initial message said it will "be active > for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote". I thought I'd sent it on Monday, which would make a week today. Time zones will also kick in because I live in Europe... I can wait a day more - not a problem. D. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (committer) Regards, Alex. On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 03:37, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Dawid, The vote began on May 12th and the initial message said it will "be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read and cast a vote". The vote should remain open until at least May 19th. - Dennis On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 4:55 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Correction - Jim is a PMC member (apologies, Jim; you may want to > update [1]). This means the results are updated to: > > Vote distribution among PMC members (binding votes): > > [+1]: 32 > [-1]: 4 > > D. > > [1] https://lucene.apache.org/whoweare.html > > > On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 10:46 AM Dawid Weiss > wrote: > > > > I am closing this vote, thank you for participating. > > > > 46 votes have been posted: 35 from PMC members, 8 from committers and > > 3 from user community. > > > > From this total 8 people voted -1 and 38 people voted +1. Vote > > distribution among PMC members (binding votes): > > > > [+1]: 31 > > [-1]: 4 > > > > The vote has passed. I will follow-up on the process from here on in a > > separate email. > > > > Dawid > > > > All collected votes in a spreadsheet: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing > > > > And in plain text: > > > > +1 > > > > PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhy...@gmail.com) > > PMC Doron Cohen (cdor...@gmail.com) > > PMC Shai Erera (ser...@gmail.com) > > PMC Ryan Ernst (r...@iernst.net) > > COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.feren...@gmail.com) > > PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodne...@gmail.com) > > PMC Dennis Gove (dpg...@gmail.com) > > PMC Adrien Grand (jpou...@gmail.com) > > PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.gronin...@gmail.com) > > PMC Mark Harwood (mharw...@apache.org) > > PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatc...@gmail.com) > > PMC Shawn Heisey (apa...@elyograg.org) > > PMC Jan Høydahl (jan@cominvent.com) > > COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0...@gmail.com) > > PMC Nicholas Knize (nkn...@gmail.com) > > PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinman...@gmail.com) > > PMC Michael McCandless (luc...@mikemccandless.com) > > PMC Christian Moen (c...@atilika.com) > > -- Gora Mohanty (g...@mimirtech.com) > > PMC Robert Muir (rcm...@gmail.com) > > PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid) > > PMC Kevin Risden (kris...@apache.org) > > PMC Steven A Rowe (sar...@gmail.com) > > PMC Uwe Schindler (u...@thetaphi.de) > > PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekigu...@rondhuit.com) > > COMMITTER Atri Sharma (a...@apache.org) > > -- Lucky Sharma (goku0...@gmail.com) > > PMC David Smiley (david.w.smi...@gmail.com) > > COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msoko...@gmail.com) > > PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teof...@gmail.com) > > PMC Varun Thacker (va...@vthacker.in) > > COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com) > > PMC Andi Vajda (o...@ovaltofu.org) > > PMC Ignacio Vera (iver...@gmail.com) > > PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.we...@gmail.com) > > PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willna...@gmail.com) > > PMC Alan Woodward (romseyg...@gmail.com) > > PMC Karl Wright (daddy...@gmail.com) > > > > -1 > > > > PMC Joel Bernstein (joels...@gmail.com) > > COMMITTER Mike Drob (md...@apache.org) > > PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowsk...@gmail.com) > > PMC Anshum Gupta (ans...@anshumgupta.net) > > COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.h...@gmail.com) > > COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_luc...@fucit.org) > > PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflo...@gmail.com) > > -- Kevin Watters (kwatt...@kmwllc.com) > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Correction - Jim is a PMC member (apologies, Jim; you may want to update [1]). This means the results are updated to: Vote distribution among PMC members (binding votes): [+1]: 32 [-1]: 4 D. [1] https://lucene.apache.org/whoweare.html On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 10:46 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > > I am closing this vote, thank you for participating. > > 46 votes have been posted: 35 from PMC members, 8 from committers and > 3 from user community. > > From this total 8 people voted -1 and 38 people voted +1. Vote > distribution among PMC members (binding votes): > > [+1]: 31 > [-1]: 4 > > The vote has passed. I will follow-up on the process from here on in a > separate email. > > Dawid > > All collected votes in a spreadsheet: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing > > And in plain text: > > +1 > > PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhy...@gmail.com) > PMC Doron Cohen (cdor...@gmail.com) > PMC Shai Erera (ser...@gmail.com) > PMC Ryan Ernst (r...@iernst.net) > COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.feren...@gmail.com) > PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodne...@gmail.com) > PMC Dennis Gove (dpg...@gmail.com) > PMC Adrien Grand (jpou...@gmail.com) > PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.gronin...@gmail.com) > PMC Mark Harwood (mharw...@apache.org) > PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatc...@gmail.com) > PMC Shawn Heisey (apa...@elyograg.org) > PMC Jan Høydahl (jan@cominvent.com) > COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0...@gmail.com) > PMC Nicholas Knize (nkn...@gmail.com) > PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinman...@gmail.com) > PMC Michael McCandless (luc...@mikemccandless.com) > PMC Christian Moen (c...@atilika.com) > -- Gora Mohanty (g...@mimirtech.com) > PMC Robert Muir (rcm...@gmail.com) > PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid) > PMC Kevin Risden (kris...@apache.org) > PMC Steven A Rowe (sar...@gmail.com) > PMC Uwe Schindler (u...@thetaphi.de) > PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekigu...@rondhuit.com) > COMMITTER Atri Sharma (a...@apache.org) > -- Lucky Sharma (goku0...@gmail.com) > PMC David Smiley (david.w.smi...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msoko...@gmail.com) > PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teof...@gmail.com) > PMC Varun Thacker (va...@vthacker.in) > COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com) > PMC Andi Vajda (o...@ovaltofu.org) > PMC Ignacio Vera (iver...@gmail.com) > PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.we...@gmail.com) > PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willna...@gmail.com) > PMC Alan Woodward (romseyg...@gmail.com) > PMC Karl Wright (daddy...@gmail.com) > > -1 > > PMC Joel Bernstein (joels...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Mike Drob (md...@apache.org) > PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowsk...@gmail.com) > PMC Anshum Gupta (ans...@anshumgupta.net) > COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.h...@gmail.com) > COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_luc...@fucit.org) > PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflo...@gmail.com) > -- Kevin Watters (kwatt...@kmwllc.com) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
I am closing this vote, thank you for participating. 46 votes have been posted: 35 from PMC members, 8 from committers and 3 from user community. >From this total 8 people voted -1 and 38 people voted +1. Vote distribution among PMC members (binding votes): [+1]: 31 [-1]: 4 The vote has passed. I will follow-up on the process from here on in a separate email. Dawid All collected votes in a spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZmR3C2EgA57QIeJJ3ejKCTUkHdG1lqPOU29heqybkKs/edit?usp=sharing And in plain text: +1 PMC Ishan Chattopadhyaya (ichattopadhy...@gmail.com) PMC Doron Cohen (cdor...@gmail.com) PMC Shai Erera (ser...@gmail.com) PMC Ryan Ernst (r...@iernst.net) COMMITTER Jim Ferenczi (jim.feren...@gmail.com) PMC Otis Gospodnetic (otis.gospodne...@gmail.com) PMC Dennis Gove (dpg...@gmail.com) PMC Adrien Grand (jpou...@gmail.com) PMC Martijn v Groningen (martijn.v.gronin...@gmail.com) PMC Mark Harwood (mharw...@apache.org) PMC Erik Hatcher (erik.hatc...@gmail.com) PMC Shawn Heisey (apa...@elyograg.org) PMC Jan Høydahl (jan@cominvent.com) COMMITTER Namgyu Kim (kng0...@gmail.com) PMC Nicholas Knize (nkn...@gmail.com) PMC Shalin Shekhar Mangar (shalinman...@gmail.com) PMC Michael McCandless (luc...@mikemccandless.com) PMC Christian Moen (c...@atilika.com) -- Gora Mohanty (g...@mimirtech.com) PMC Robert Muir (rcm...@gmail.com) PMC Nhat Nguyen (nhat.ngu...@elastic.co.invalid) PMC Kevin Risden (kris...@apache.org) PMC Steven A Rowe (sar...@gmail.com) PMC Uwe Schindler (u...@thetaphi.de) PMC Koji Sekiguchi (koji.sekigu...@rondhuit.com) COMMITTER Atri Sharma (a...@apache.org) -- Lucky Sharma (goku0...@gmail.com) PMC David Smiley (david.w.smi...@gmail.com) COMMITTER Michael Sokolov (msoko...@gmail.com) PMC Tommaso Teofili (tommaso.teof...@gmail.com) PMC Varun Thacker (va...@vthacker.in) COMMITTER Tomoko Uchida (tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com) PMC Andi Vajda (o...@ovaltofu.org) PMC Ignacio Vera (iver...@gmail.com) PMC Dawid Weiss (dawid.we...@gmail.com) PMC Simon Willnauer (simon.willna...@gmail.com) PMC Alan Woodward (romseyg...@gmail.com) PMC Karl Wright (daddy...@gmail.com) -1 PMC Joel Bernstein (joels...@gmail.com) COMMITTER Mike Drob (md...@apache.org) PMC Jason Gerlowski (gerlowsk...@gmail.com) PMC Anshum Gupta (ans...@anshumgupta.net) COMMITTER Gus Heck (gus.h...@gmail.com) COMMITTER Chris Hostetter (hossman_luc...@fucit.org) PMC Tomás Fernández Löbbe (tomasflo...@gmail.com) -- Kevin Watters (kwatt...@kmwllc.com) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
For the reasons I included in my message on the discussion thread ( https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/lucene-dev/202005.mbox/%3CCAPsCRSWds%3Dctvf837BFRXqyPxGLJ-5a%2B3hCa6HwrA8FFR5MQkA%40mail.gmail.com%3E) I'm voting in favor of this. I hope the actual execution of it will follow the path of a code/release split for a few versions before a more permanent project split, but if not I think the benefits of a split will still be seen, although perhaps down a bumpier road. +1 (binding) On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 9:44 PM Shalin Shekhar Mangar < shalinman...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 (binding) > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:07 PM Dawid Weiss wrote: > >> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! >> >> According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> independent entities. >> >> To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems >> like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 >> years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and >> exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, >> patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make >> development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. >> >> We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a >> chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The >> discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the >> matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are >> against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I >> don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- >> we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I >> firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put >> it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the >> future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. >> >> Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and >> make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, >> committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be >> worked out during the process if the decision passes. >> >> Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): >> >> [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal >> [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal >> >> Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to >> express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding >> votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). >> >> The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read >> and cast a vote. >> >> Dawid >> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >> [2] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> >> > > -- > Regards, > Shalin Shekhar Mangar. >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:07 PM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > -- Regards, Shalin Shekhar Mangar.
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) for Solr to become TLP (and for separating the two projects from each other) Regards, Doron -- Sent from: https://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Lucene-Java-Developer-f564358.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 Otis -- http://sematext.com > On May 15, 2020, at 15:13, kwatters wrote: > > -1 > > > > > -- > Sent from: > https://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Lucene-Java-Developer-f564358.html > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
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Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 19:20, Gora Mohanty wrote: > +1 > > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 22:42, Kevin Risden wrote: > >> +1 (binding) >> >> Kevin Risden >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:17 PM Nicholas Knize wrote: >> >>> +1 (binding) >>> >>> Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP >>> Geospatial Software Guy | Elasticsearch >>> Apache Lucene PMC Member and Committer >>> nkn...@apache.org >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:02 AM Namgyu Kim wrote: >>> +1 On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:33 PM Tommaso Teofili < tommaso.teof...@gmail.com> wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Tommaso > > On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:37, Dawid Weiss > wrote: > >> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! >> >> According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> independent entities. >> >> To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems >> like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 >> years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and >> exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, >> patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make >> development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. >> >> We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a >> chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The >> discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the >> matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are >> against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I >> don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- >> we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I >> firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put >> it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the >> future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. >> >> Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and >> make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, >> committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be >> worked out during the process if the decision passes. >> >> Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): >> >> [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal >> [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal >> >> Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to >> express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding >> votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). >> >> The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read >> and cast a vote. >> >> Dawid >> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >> [2] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> >> -- Met vriendelijke groet, Martijn van Groningen
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 22:42, Kevin Risden wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Kevin Risden > > > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:17 PM Nicholas Knize wrote: > >> +1 (binding) >> >> Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP >> Geospatial Software Guy | Elasticsearch >> Apache Lucene PMC Member and Committer >> nkn...@apache.org >> >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:02 AM Namgyu Kim wrote: >> >>> +1 >>> >>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:33 PM Tommaso Teofili < >>> tommaso.teof...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> +1 (binding) Tommaso On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:37, Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) Kevin Risden On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:17 PM Nicholas Knize wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP > Geospatial Software Guy | Elasticsearch > Apache Lucene PMC Member and Committer > nkn...@apache.org > > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:02 AM Namgyu Kim wrote: > >> +1 >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:33 PM Tommaso Teofili < >> tommaso.teof...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> +1 (binding) >>> >>> Tommaso >>> >>> On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:37, Dawid Weiss wrote: >>> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two independent entities. To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be worked out during the process if the decision passes. Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read and cast a vote. Dawid [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) Nicholas Knize, Ph.D., GISP Geospatial Software Guy | Elasticsearch Apache Lucene PMC Member and Committer nkn...@apache.org On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 11:02 AM Namgyu Kim wrote: > +1 > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:33 PM Tommaso Teofili < > tommaso.teof...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> +1 (binding) >> >> Tommaso >> >> On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:37, Dawid Weiss wrote: >> >>> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! >>> >>> According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >>> calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >>> project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >>> independent entities. >>> >>> To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems >>> like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 >>> years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and >>> exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, >>> patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make >>> development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. >>> >>> We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a >>> chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The >>> discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the >>> matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are >>> against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I >>> don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- >>> we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I >>> firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put >>> it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the >>> future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. >>> >>> Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and >>> make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, >>> committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be >>> worked out during the process if the decision passes. >>> >>> Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): >>> >>> [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal >>> [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal >>> >>> Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to >>> express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding >>> votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). >>> >>> The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read >>> and cast a vote. >>> >>> Dawid >>> >>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >>> [2] >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >>>
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:33 PM Tommaso Teofili wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Tommaso > > On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:37, Dawid Weiss wrote: > >> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! >> >> According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> independent entities. >> >> To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems >> like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 >> years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and >> exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, >> patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make >> development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. >> >> We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a >> chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The >> discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the >> matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are >> against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I >> don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- >> we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I >> firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put >> it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the >> future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. >> >> Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and >> make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, >> committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be >> worked out during the process if the decision passes. >> >> Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): >> >> [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal >> [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal >> >> Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to >> express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding >> votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). >> >> The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read >> and cast a vote. >> >> Dawid >> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >> [2] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> >>
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) Tommaso On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 09:37, Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
++1 Regards, Lucky Sharma On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 8:01 PM, Mark Harwood wrote: > +1 > > On 2020/05/12 07:36:57, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > > independent entities. > > > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > > and cast a vote. > > > > Dawid > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > -- Warm Regards, Lucky Sharma Contact No :+91 9821559918
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 On 2020/05/12 07:36:57, Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
(having not read all replies, just the message I added binding... later replies indicate that i should have said -1 (committer) On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 7:53 AM Gus Heck wrote: > -1 (binding) > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:53 AM Joel Bernstein wrote: > >> -1 (binding) >> >> >> Joel Bernstein >> http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:39 AM Tomoko Uchida < >> tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Personally, I am not particularly interested in "promoting" Solr to TLP >>> though, agree with the idea Lucene and Solr should have separate code base, >>> CI infra, contribution procedure, release cycles, etc. >>> If this proposal is the best way to do so, +1 (non binding). >>> >>> Tomoko >>> >>> >>> 2020年5月13日(水) 16:21 Dawid Weiss : >>> > I wanted to clarify that only PMC members cast binding votes and not committers. I thought it's up to the decision of the one who sends the vote thread but I stand corrected, thank you Anshum. Dawid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > -- > http://www.needhamsoftware.com (work) > http://www.the111shift.com (play) > -- http://www.needhamsoftware.com (work) http://www.the111shift.com (play)
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
-1 (binding) On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:53 AM Joel Bernstein wrote: > -1 (binding) > > > Joel Bernstein > http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/ > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:39 AM Tomoko Uchida < > tomoko.uchida.1...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Personally, I am not particularly interested in "promoting" Solr to TLP >> though, agree with the idea Lucene and Solr should have separate code base, >> CI infra, contribution procedure, release cycles, etc. >> If this proposal is the best way to do so, +1 (non binding). >> >> Tomoko >> >> >> 2020年5月13日(水) 16:21 Dawid Weiss : >> >>> > I wanted to clarify that only PMC members cast binding votes and not >>> committers. >>> >>> I thought it's up to the decision of the one who sends the vote thread >>> but I stand corrected, thank you Anshum. >>> >>> Dawid >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >>> -- http://www.needhamsoftware.com (work) http://www.the111shift.com (play)
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
-1 (binding) Joel Bernstein http://joelsolr.blogspot.com/ On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:39 AM Tomoko Uchida wrote: > Personally, I am not particularly interested in "promoting" Solr to TLP > though, agree with the idea Lucene and Solr should have separate code base, > CI infra, contribution procedure, release cycles, etc. > If this proposal is the best way to do so, +1 (non binding). > > Tomoko > > > 2020年5月13日(水) 16:21 Dawid Weiss : > >> > I wanted to clarify that only PMC members cast binding votes and not >> committers. >> >> I thought it's up to the decision of the one who sends the vote thread >> but I stand corrected, thank you Anshum. >> >> Dawid >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> >>
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Personally, I am not particularly interested in "promoting" Solr to TLP though, agree with the idea Lucene and Solr should have separate code base, CI infra, contribution procedure, release cycles, etc. If this proposal is the best way to do so, +1 (non binding). Tomoko 2020年5月13日(水) 16:21 Dawid Weiss : > > I wanted to clarify that only PMC members cast binding votes and not > committers. > > I thought it's up to the decision of the one who sends the vote thread > but I stand corrected, thank you Anshum. > > Dawid > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
> I wanted to clarify that only PMC members cast binding votes and not > committers. I thought it's up to the decision of the one who sends the vote thread but I stand corrected, thank you Anshum. Dawid - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:37 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > -- Adrien
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:18 PM Koji Sekiguchi wrote: > +1 > > Koji > > On 2020/05/12 16:36, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > > independent entities. > > > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > > and cast a vote. > > > > Dawid > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 Koji On 2020/05/12 16:36, Dawid Weiss wrote: Dear Lucene and Solr developers! According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two independent entities. To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be worked out during the process if the decision passes. Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read and cast a vote. Dawid [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
I agree this is a procedural vote. Here's my +1 for the proposal. Shai On Tue, May 12, 2020, 23:07 Simon Willnauer wrote: > I agree this is not a code change category vote. It’s a majority vote. -1s > are not vetos. > > Simon > > On 12. May 2020, at 21:17, Atri Sharma wrote: > > > I would argue against that — this is more of a project level decision with > no changes to the core code base per se — more of restructuring of it. Sort > of how a sub project becomes a TLP. > > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 00:38, Ishan Chattopadhyaya < > ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is in the code modification category, since code will be modified as >> result of this proposal. >> >> On Wed, 13 May, 2020, 12:27 am Shawn Heisey, wrote: >> >>> On 5/12/2020 1:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: >>> > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >>> > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >>> > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >>> > independent entities. >>> >>> +1 (pmc) >>> >>> We should clarify exactly what kind of vote this is. If it is in the >>> "code modification" category, then a single -1 vote would be enough to >>> defeat the proposal. There are already some -1 votes. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Shawn >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >>> -- > Regards, > > Atri > Apache Concerted > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
I agree this is not a code change category vote. It’s a majority vote. -1s are not vetos. Simon > On 12. May 2020, at 21:17, Atri Sharma wrote: > > > I would argue against that — this is more of a project level decision with no > changes to the core code base per se — more of restructuring of it. Sort of > how a sub project becomes a TLP. > >> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 00:38, Ishan Chattopadhyaya >> wrote: >> This is in the code modification category, since code will be modified as >> result of this proposal. >> >>> On Wed, 13 May, 2020, 12:27 am Shawn Heisey, wrote: >>> On 5/12/2020 1:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: >>> > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >>> > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >>> > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >>> > independent entities. >>> >>> +1 (pmc) >>> >>> We should clarify exactly what kind of vote this is. If it is in the >>> "code modification" category, then a single -1 vote would be enough to >>> defeat the proposal. There are already some -1 votes. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Shawn >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> > -- > Regards, > > Atri > Apache Concerted
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Dawid, Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). I wanted to clarify that only PMC members cast binding votes and not committers. Also, community votes are as important as it would help a lot of people also decide what is the right direction to move forward w.r.t. the community. On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:37 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > -- Anshum Gupta
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
I am about to re-read the rules here but I think this is a procedural vote. Also, considering almost all procedural changes would impact the code in some way, I don't think anything would pass if we were to put stuff in the "code modification" category as getting a single veto would stop all progress. -Anshum On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:17 PM Atri Sharma wrote: > I would argue against that — this is more of a project level decision with > no changes to the core code base per se — more of restructuring of it. Sort > of how a sub project becomes a TLP. > > On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 00:38, Ishan Chattopadhyaya < > ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is in the code modification category, since code will be modified as >> result of this proposal. >> >> On Wed, 13 May, 2020, 12:27 am Shawn Heisey, wrote: >> >>> On 5/12/2020 1:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: >>> > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >>> > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >>> > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >>> > independent entities. >>> >>> +1 (pmc) >>> >>> We should clarify exactly what kind of vote this is. If it is in the >>> "code modification" category, then a single -1 vote would be enough to >>> defeat the proposal. There are already some -1 votes. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Shawn >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >>> -- > Regards, > > Atri > Apache Concerted > -- Anshum Gupta
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
This is a procedural vote. Code is not affected. The future of each project diverges from the same git commit. Dawid On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:08 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya wrote: > > This is in the code modification category, since code will be modified as > result of this proposal. > > On Wed, 13 May, 2020, 12:27 am Shawn Heisey, wrote: >> >> On 5/12/2020 1:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: >> > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> > independent entities. >> >> +1 (pmc) >> >> We should clarify exactly what kind of vote this is. If it is in the >> "code modification" category, then a single -1 vote would be enough to >> defeat the proposal. There are already some -1 votes. >> >> Thanks, >> Shawn >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
I would argue against that — this is more of a project level decision with no changes to the core code base per se — more of restructuring of it. Sort of how a sub project becomes a TLP. On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 00:38, Ishan Chattopadhyaya < ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > This is in the code modification category, since code will be modified as > result of this proposal. > > On Wed, 13 May, 2020, 12:27 am Shawn Heisey, wrote: > >> On 5/12/2020 1:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: >> > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> > independent entities. >> >> +1 (pmc) >> >> We should clarify exactly what kind of vote this is. If it is in the >> "code modification" category, then a single -1 vote would be enough to >> defeat the proposal. There are already some -1 votes. >> >> Thanks, >> Shawn >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> >> -- Regards, Atri Apache Concerted
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
This is in the code modification category, since code will be modified as result of this proposal. On Wed, 13 May, 2020, 12:27 am Shawn Heisey, wrote: > On 5/12/2020 1:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > > independent entities. > > +1 (pmc) > > We should clarify exactly what kind of vote this is. If it is in the > "code modification" category, then a single -1 vote would be enough to > defeat the proposal. There are already some -1 votes. > > Thanks, > Shawn > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
On 5/12/2020 1:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two independent entities. +1 (pmc) We should clarify exactly what kind of vote this is. If it is in the "code modification" category, then a single -1 vote would be enough to defeat the proposal. There are already some -1 votes. Thanks, Shawn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
-1 (committer) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:14 PM Chris Hostetter wrote: > > : Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > : make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > : committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > : worked out during the process if the decision passes. > : > : Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > : > : [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > : [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > -1 > > (non-binding) > > > -Hoss > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
: Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and : make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, : committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be : worked out during the process if the decision passes. : : Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): : : [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal : [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal -1 (non-binding) -Hoss - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
-1 (binding) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:37 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > -- Anshum Gupta
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:20 AM Ryan Ernst wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:37 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: >> >> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! >> >> According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> independent entities. >> >> To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems >> like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 >> years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and >> exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, >> patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make >> development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. >> >> We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a >> chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The >> discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the >> matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are >> against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I >> don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- >> we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I >> firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put >> it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the >> future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. >> >> Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and >> make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, >> committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be >> worked out during the process if the decision passes. >> >> Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): >> >> [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal >> [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal >> >> Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to >> express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding >> votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). >> >> The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read >> and cast a vote. >> >> Dawid >> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >> [2] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 12:37 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 > On May 12, 2020, at 3:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) Andi.. > On May 12, 2020, at 00:37, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:21 PM Ignacio Vera wrote: > +1 (binding) > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:38 PM Tomás Fernández Löbbe < > tomasflo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> -1 (binding) >> >>
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:38 PM Tomás Fernández Löbbe wrote: > -1 (binding) > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
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Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
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Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 8:41 AM Steve Rowe wrote: > +1 > > -- > Steve > > > On May 12, 2020, at 3:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > > independent entities. > > > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > > and cast a vote. > > > > Dawid > > > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 -- Steve > On May 12, 2020, at 3:36 AM, Dawid Weiss wrote: > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1, this is long overdue. It will indeed be quite a bit of work to separate everything, but I think the long term benefits to both projects will be massive, making that one-time cost very much worth it. Thanks for raising this Dawid! Mike McCandless http://blog.mikemccandless.com On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:37 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:37 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) Le mar. 12 mai 2020 à 14:00, Simon Willnauer a écrit : > +1 binding > > Sent from a mobile device > > > On 12. May 2020, at 13:33, Jason Gerlowski > wrote: > > > > -1 (binding) > > > >> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:31 AM Alan Woodward > wrote: > >> > >> +1 (binding) > >> > >> Alan Woodward > >> > On 12 May 2020, at 12:06, Jan Høydahl wrote: > >>> > >>> +1 (binding) > >>> > >>> Jan Høydahl > >>> > 12. mai 2020 kl. 09:36 skrev Dawid Weiss : > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > >>> > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >>> > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 binding Sent from a mobile device > On 12. May 2020, at 13:33, Jason Gerlowski wrote: > > -1 (binding) > >> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:31 AM Alan Woodward wrote: >> >> +1 (binding) >> >> Alan Woodward >> On 12 May 2020, at 12:06, Jan Høydahl wrote: >>> >>> +1 (binding) >>> >>> Jan Høydahl >>> 12. mai 2020 kl. 09:36 skrev Dawid Weiss : Dear Lucene and Solr developers! According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two independent entities. To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be worked out during the process if the decision passes. Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read and cast a vote. Dawid [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >>> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
-1 (binding) On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 7:31 AM Alan Woodward wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > Alan Woodward > > > On 12 May 2020, at 12:06, Jan Høydahl wrote: > > > > +1 (binding) > > > > Jan Høydahl > > > >> 12. mai 2020 kl. 09:36 skrev Dawid Weiss : > >> > >> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > >> > >> According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > >> calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > >> project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > >> independent entities. > >> > >> To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > >> like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > >> years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > >> exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > >> patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > >> development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > >> > >> We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > >> chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > >> discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > >> matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > >> against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > >> don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > >> we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > >> firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > >> it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > >> future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > >> > >> Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > >> make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > >> committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > >> worked out during the process if the decision passes. > >> > >> Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > >> > >> [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > >> [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > >> > >> Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > >> express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > >> votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > >> > >> The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > >> and cast a vote. > >> > >> Dawid > >> > >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > >> [2] > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) Alan Woodward > On 12 May 2020, at 12:06, Jan Høydahl wrote: > > +1 (binding) > > Jan Høydahl > >> 12. mai 2020 kl. 09:36 skrev Dawid Weiss : >> >> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! >> >> According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> independent entities. >> >> To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems >> like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 >> years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and >> exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, >> patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make >> development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. >> >> We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a >> chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The >> discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the >> matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are >> against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I >> don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- >> we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I >> firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put >> it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the >> future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. >> >> Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and >> make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, >> committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be >> worked out during the process if the decision passes. >> >> Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): >> >> [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal >> [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal >> >> Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to >> express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding >> votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). >> >> The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read >> and cast a vote. >> >> Dawid >> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >> [2] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding) Jan Høydahl > 12. mai 2020 kl. 09:36 skrev Dawid Weiss : > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
RE: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Hi, here is also my +1 I have a few objections about the process, but in general it's a good idea. Uwe - Uwe Schindler Achterdiek 19, D-28357 Bremen https://www.thetaphi.de eMail: u...@thetaphi.de > -Original Message- > From: Dawid Weiss > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 9:37 AM > To: Lucene Dev > Subject: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP) > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7 > e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Oh, here is my +1 (binding). Dawid On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Dawid Weiss wrote: > > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Thanks for suggesting this and bringing this forward to a vote, Dawid. I'm in favor of the proposal; +1 (binding) Best, Christian On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 4:37 PM Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 from me (binding) Karl On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:54 AM Atri Sharma wrote: > +1 (binding). > > Regards, > > Atri > > On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 13:07, Dawid Weiss wrote: > >> Dear Lucene and Solr developers! >> >> According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am >> calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache >> project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two >> independent entities. >> >> To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems >> like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 >> years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and >> exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, >> patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make >> development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. >> >> We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a >> chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The >> discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the >> matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are >> against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I >> don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- >> we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I >> firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put >> it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the >> future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. >> >> Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and >> make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, >> committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be >> worked out during the process if the decision passes. >> >> Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): >> >> [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal >> [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal >> >> Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to >> express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding >> votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). >> >> The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read >> and cast a vote. >> >> Dawid >> >> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >> [2] >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org >> >> -- > Regards, > > Atri > Apache Concerted >
Re: [VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
+1 (binding). Regards, Atri On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 13:07, Dawid Weiss wrote: > Dear Lucene and Solr developers! > > According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am > calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache > project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two > independent entities. > > To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems > like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 > years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and > exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, > patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make > development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. > > We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a > chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The > discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the > matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are > against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I > don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- > we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I > firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put > it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the > future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. > > Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and > make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, > committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be > worked out during the process if the decision passes. > > Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): > > [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal > [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal > > Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to > express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding > votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). > > The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read > and cast a vote. > > Dawid > > [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html > [2] > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org > > -- Regards, Atri Apache Concerted
[VOTE] Solr to become a top-level Apache project (TLP)
Dear Lucene and Solr developers! According to an earlier [DISCUSS] thread on the dev list [2], I am calling for a vote on the proposal to make Solr a top-level Apache project (TLP) and separate Lucene and Solr development into two independent entities. To quickly recap the reasons and consequences of such a move: it seems like the reasons for the initial merge of Lucene and Solr, around 10 years ago, have been achieved. Both projects are in good shape and exhibit signs of independence already (mailing lists, committers, patch flow). There are many technical considerations that would make development much easier if we move Solr out into its own TLP. We discussed this issue [2] and both PMC members and committers had a chance to review all the pros and cons and express their views. The discussion showed that there are clearly different opinions on the matter - some people are in favor, some are neutral, others are against or not seeing the point of additional labor. Realistically, I don't think reaching 100% level consensus is going to be possible -- we are a diverse bunch with different opinions and personalities. I firmly believe this is the right direction hence the decision to put it under the voting process. Should something take a wrong turn in the future (as some folks worry it may), all blame is on me. Therefore, the proposal is to separate Solr from under Lucene TLP, and make it a TLP on its own. The initial structure of the new PMC, committer base, git repositories and other managerial aspects can be worked out during the process if the decision passes. Please indicate one of the following (see [1] for guidelines): [ ] +1 - yes, I vote for the proposal [ ] -1 - no, I vote against the proposal Please note that anyone in the Lucene+Solr community is invited to express their opinion, though only Lucene+Solr committers cast binding votes (indicate non-binding votes in your reply, please). The vote will be active for a week to give everyone a chance to read and cast a vote. Dawid [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/rfae2440264f6f874e91545b2030c98e7b7e3854ddf090f7747d338df%40%3Cdev.lucene.apache.org%3E - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@lucene.apache.org