Re: POM5 proposal

2011-07-27 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi Benson! Txs for pushing that, looks really good!. As for compat: I read your proposal this way: pom5 projects can only be built with mvn3.1 or mvn4 (or whatever we call it) but while installing/deploying, a pom-4.0 will be created which can be _consumed_ as dependencies even by mvn2 and/or

Re: svn commit: r1150994 - /maven/plugins/trunk/maven-site-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/site/AbstractDeployMojo.java

2011-07-27 Thread Lukas Theussl
I won't fight about it but I dislike the idea of providing web links in error messages. In a few years from now they might not exist any more or provide irrelevant information. A stack trace is not pretty but google doesn't mind that. At least log the stack trace at debug level if you

Re: POM5 proposal

2011-07-27 Thread Arnaud Héritier
Thx for your work Benson I'll read and comment your document ASAP About new elements we already discussed to add there was the project/build/encoding It may me think that we need to define about the compatibility management we'll have to setup for plugins For now we can say that a plugin works

Re: POM5 proposal

2011-07-27 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
Nice work. I somehow think that the starting point for this disucssion should be the intended functionality of such a change; so I'd like to start the discussion with the use cases. One very simple use case which I personally would appreciate is more compact pom format; less bloat. I could see

Re: POM5 proposal

2011-07-27 Thread Benson Margulies
Folks, A general theme of these comments is, 'and what are we going to put in our new pom version?' I didn't go there in my writeup, since I was concerned with the mechanics of 'how do we have a new POM *at all*'. But I see the point; we can't make a new pom model every week, so we need to

Re: Maven eclipse plugin

2011-07-27 Thread Lukasz Dywicki
Hey guys, I really don't have problem with lack of commit access to maven repository. I know how ASF work and I don't expect write access to your repository at early stage of cooperation. :) I can do patches on my github fork and let you cherry-picking changes instead of merging them from svn

Apache Maven distribution with fixes

2011-07-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
Maven PMC, Benjamin and I would like to make a distribution available that addresses several issues with the Apache Maven 3.0.3 release. We have pushed back all bugfixes that do not involve Eclipse Aether[a] and Eclipse Sisu[b] as their incorporation into the mainline and an official release

Re: POM5 proposal

2011-07-27 Thread Tim O'Brien
Vincent that seems like a mistake. Why add more specific elements like Wiki and API. Why make the POM syntax this specific. Why not make it free from, something like: resource type=wiki url!--- some Wiki URL --/url /resource Which you could compact down in some groovy syntax to something

Re: Set specific plugin versions for a project - issue in plugin-registry.xml/maven-metada-local.xml

2011-07-27 Thread Kasun Gajasinghe
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Ansgar Konermann ansgar.konerm...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 27.07.2011 08:16, schrieb Kasun Gajasinghe: We don't allow downloading of different versions of same plugin which in most cases does the 'same' job! So, we need the ability to set a default plugin

Re: POM5 proposal

2011-07-27 Thread Jeff MAURY
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Tim O'Brien tobr...@discursive.com wrote: Vincent that seems like a mistake. Why add more specific elements like Wiki and API. Why make the POM syntax this specific. Why not make it free from, something like: resource type=wiki url!--- some Wiki URL

[VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Benson Margulies
As per the approved policy, this message opens a vote to allow Maven releases to depend on EPL (and thus Category B) versions of Aether. The vote will be open for 72 hours and the results determined according to the policy. Discussion on this question took place on a thread labelled '[DISCUSS]

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Mark Struberg
as long as it's not over at Eclipse.org it's a -1 from me. LieGrue, strub --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com Subject: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
-1 I can wait too. Kristian Den 27. juli 2011 kl. 20:55 skrev Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de: as long as it's not over at Eclipse.org it's a -1 from me. LieGrue, strub --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: From: Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
There are 3 weeks left for community review, another week for the creation review, and another for the provisioning. So it's 5 weeks tops. http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/ On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: -1 I can wait too. Kristian Den 27. juli

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread John Casey
-1 Definitely not until it's all the way moved to Eclipse...and even then, I'm personally reluctant. I'd much prefer to see Aether's functionality moved back into Maven, and streamlined to the point where it's easier to maintain. On 7/27/11 2:45 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: As per the

Re: Set specific plugin versions for a project - issue in plugin-registry.xml/maven-metada-local.xml

2011-07-27 Thread Larry Shatzer, Jr.
be glued together via a parent pom. I don't see why not. Consider the following example: http://img.skitch.com/20110727-b3j3j8fk2rg4s2h9exm225skyd.png You just need to have a hierarchy of parent poms. Sure, if you update the top Corporate Super-Pom, you will then need to update the other parent poms

Re: svn commit: r1150994 - /maven/plugins/trunk/maven-site-plugin/src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/site/AbstractDeployMojo.java

2011-07-27 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011, Lukas Theussl a écrit : I won't fight about it sure, we won't fight :) but I dislike the idea of providing web links in error messages. In a few years from now they might not exist any more or provide irrelevant information. ok, I understand: I have idea on how

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Stephane Nicoll
-1 for the same reasons. On Wednesday, July 27, 2011, John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org wrote: -1 Definitely not until it's all the way moved to Eclipse...and even then, I'm personally reluctant. I'd much prefer to see Aether's functionality moved back into Maven, and streamlined to the

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Mark Struberg
Yea, that sounds good! Thanks for the update! LieGrue, strub --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com wrote: From: Jason van Zyl ja...@sonatype.com Subject: Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases To: Maven Developers List dev@maven.apache.org Date: Wednesday, July

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Daniel Kulp
-1 for same reasons, but I'd be happy to switch to a +1 if the license was changed back to dual Eclipse/Apache AND it gets to Eclipse. Dan On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:04:42 PM John Casey wrote: -1 Definitely not until it's all the way moved to Eclipse...and even then, I'm personally

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
just for the record, -1 too waiting for Eclipse release, which is coming soon: great! Regards, Hervé Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011, Benson Margulies a écrit : As per the approved policy, this message opens a vote to allow Maven releases to depend on EPL (and thus Category B) versions of Aether.

Re: POM5 proposal

2011-07-27 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011, Tim O'Brien a écrit : Vincent that seems like a mistake. Why add more specific elements like Wiki and API. Why make the POM syntax this specific. Why not make it free from, something like: resource type=wiki url!--- some Wiki URL --/url /resource Which

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Olivier Lamy
-1 too and same reasons. -- Olivier Le 27 juil. 2011 21:05, John Casey jdca...@commonjava.org a écrit : -1 Definitely not until it's all the way moved to Eclipse...and even then, I'm personally reluctant. I'd much prefer to see Aether's functionality moved back into Maven, and streamlined

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Mark Derricutt
As long as 1.12+ of Aether makes it into the 3.0.4 release: +1 NON Binding Without it Maven quite easily gets seriously broken :( On 28/07/2011, at 6:45 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: As per the approved policy, this message opens a vote to allow Maven releases to depend on EPL (and thus

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Mark Struberg
Without it Maven quite easily gets seriously broken :( Thats exactly the reason. Do you like to have the Apache Maven project depending on a part which you have no control over? Which might change in a way which just doesn't fit for Maven? Remember: all this used to be just a part of

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Mark Derricutt wrote: As long as 1.12+ of Aether makes it into the 3.0.4 release: +1 NON Binding What I would consider to be the fix set for 3.0.4 is here: http://people.apache.org/~jvanzyl/ Benjamin and I will continue to support these builds and push back

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Benson Margulies
A point of process. If this vote goes negative, I'll just throw another one when the code is live at Eclipse.org. To Dan's point: I posted an analysis to the effect that the dual-license has no benefit to us, and no one offered any counter-argument. Perhaps Dan or someone else would care to offer

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Mark Derricutt
And was just as broken in 2.2.x with the exact same problem from what I've been told by Richard who diagnosed and raised the JIRA ticket. On 28/07/2011, at 8:46 AM, Mark Struberg wrote: Remember: all this used to be just a part of maven-core in v2...

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Manfred Moser
Also .. from what I understand Maven and core plugins depend on a whole bunch of other libraries that are not in Maven and/or not in Apache so as long as there is license compatibilitys I am sure the Maven devs can work with upstream projects like Aether just like others like commons* or whatever

Re: svn commit: r1150948 - in /maven/plugins/trunk/maven-site-plugin: pom.xml src/it/full-reporting/pom.xml src/it/full-reporting/verify.groovy src/main/java/org/apache/maven/plugins/site/AbstractSite

2011-07-27 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
I found the culprit: MNG-5140 and the impact is reduced: only reports in a reportSet are affected Given this, I think it is safe to keep the fix Regards, Hervé Le mercredi 27 juillet 2011, Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit : I still need to investigate what's happenning with m-site-p 2.3 and Maven 2.2

Re: [VOTE] Incorporate EPL Ether in Maven Releases

2011-07-27 Thread Barrie Treloar
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Manfred Moser manf...@mosabuam.com wrote: Also .. from what I understand Maven and core plugins depend on a whole bunch of other libraries that are not in Maven and/or not in Apache so as long as there is license compatibilitys I am sure the Maven devs can work

Maven 2/3 and Cobetura plugin with both TestNG and JUnit tests (with Surefire plugin configuration)

2011-07-27 Thread Larry Shatzer, Jr.
I did send this to the users list, but got no response in over a week. I know dev lists are not a magical escalation path, but this might be a better venue for this email. I have an example project at https://gist.github.com/1090223 This project has both a JUnit test and a TestNG test.