RE: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-23 Thread Yerex, Tom
(This is only brainstorming.) I like Metron's documentation. There has been effort and care taken there. Ambari is nice, but given that mpack is moving behind a paywall then it seems that the groups benefiting from the paywall can chip in to build Metron mpacks at their leisure. Elasticsearch

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-21 Thread Otto Fowler
I think the difference is the maintenance of the core of metron that *has* to be, and other things that may still be done, but will be worked on for their merits or by community need and not be required for everything On April 21, 2020 at 10:29:24, Justin Leet (justinjl...@gmail.com) wrote: How

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-21 Thread Justin Leet
How we install depends on what we're choosing to keep around. My concern is getting core Metron's scope down to a supportable level. This entire conversation is probably just a thought experiment until we properly limit the rest of our scope. It's putting the cart before the horse. I want to

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-21 Thread Nick Allen
Hi Tom - > Do you or anyone have enough experience to judge if it is possible to leverage Ansible as a replacement to deploy a working cluster? Yes, I worked a lot on the Ansible mechanism in the early days of Metron. This was the primary deployment mechanism before we had the Ambari MPack. We

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-21 Thread Yerex, Tom
Hi Nick, I see there is a lot of work done using Ansible in the repository. Do you or anyone have enough experience to judge if it is possible to leverage Ansible as a replacement to deploy a working cluster? Now that I am typing this out, I wonder if docker might be a solution that would

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-17 Thread Nick Allen
This is a good discussion and one that I haven't fully grappled with in my own mind yet. I'll have more to add, but I just want to chime in on the topic of Ambari at this point. ### Ambari and the Paywall The problem with Ambari is that its installation mechanism requires a repository of

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-16 Thread Dima Kovalyov
- Dropping Ambari. I like the progress that Apache did with Ambari in 2.7. And I don't know a better installer/manager for all the services (we use other Hadoop eco services besides Metron). Sometimes its buggy, agents get stuck or server needs reboot from time to time, mpacks brake some

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-15 Thread Justin Leet
This is a bit off the top of my head, but I'd I agree with pretty much all of points on what's bringing a lot of overhead. There's probably also a worthwhile discussion about what value we're shooting for the project to provide to people that influences what stays/goes. Thinking out loud a bit

RE: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-08 Thread Yerex, Tom
To me Metron is big and broad in the scope of technology required to get it running. If things were more modular that would go a long way to reducing the learning curve or at least putting it into smaller bites (and it might encourage more people to get involved). If the UI were an add-on

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-08 Thread Casey Stella
As far as I know there is no minimum bar of development activity to keep a project open. I think we would all be grateful for any investment that you or your organization would want to make. It also occurs to me that your observation is absolutely spot on: we have a LOT of moving parts. I see

Re: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-08 Thread Prashant Bhalesain
Hi Casey, It is still possible to make this project alive and take it forward. The major challenges I am facing at the moment is deploying machine learning models. I see the project still has potential to be made better There is opportunity to change the way we deploy and serve models. There is

RE: Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-08 Thread Yerex, Tom
Hi Casey, I'm new here and new to contributing to an open source project. Thus far my contribution has been questions, however the steep learning curve has had me working to understand all the moving parts for the last 18 months and I see that as a big investment by my organization. What is a

Development Activity has dropped to effectively 0, what should we do?

2020-04-08 Thread Casey Stella
Hi all, When composing the board report today, I realized that we have effectively had no development in the last quarter on this project. Please be aware that I say this without a shred of blame or judgement (especially so considering I have not contributed in a long time). That being said, I