Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-14 Thread Werner Punz
Martin Marinschek schrieb: I can certainly live with dojo components being in an optional, plug-in subproject of Tomahawk - they should then however use Tomahawk infrastructure, the generator-environment and work together with its components. As I said moving over the generator is basically a

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-14 Thread Werner Punz
Andrew Robinson schrieb: I can see the point of that argument, but worry that putting heavy 3rd party JS libraries into Tomahawk will steer people away from using it. IMO, Dojo based components should either be (1) in a new MyFaces top project, or in (2) a subproject of Tomahawk (i.e. myfaces-tom

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-10 Thread Martin Marinschek
I can certainly live with dojo components being in an optional, plug-in subproject of Tomahawk - they should then however use Tomahawk infrastructure, the generator-environment and work together with its components. regards, Martin On 7/10/08, Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can s

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-10 Thread Andrew Robinson
I can see the point of that argument, but worry that putting heavy 3rd party JS libraries into Tomahawk will steer people away from using it. IMO, Dojo based components should either be (1) in a new MyFaces top project, or in (2) a subproject of Tomahawk (i.e. myfaces-tomahawk-dojo). #2 has its ad

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-10 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Mario, I do not fancy YACL (yet another component library). Really not. There is some cool stuff in Werner's proposal, and I think it might be nice if it is carefully integrated into tomahawk without breaking the other stuff that is there. I do strongly think that we cannot afford the community

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-10 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Werner Punz schrieb: Martin Marinschek schrieb: In any case, I remain -1 to add a new component library - I am sorry. Ok I am going to postpone this discussion until I can showcase something then we can start it over... Hmm ... was Martin's -1 a veto or did he just express his opinion. M

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-10 Thread Werner Punz
Martin Marinschek schrieb: Hi Werner, As for hosting another option would be to host the project outside of apache until we have moved everything over and then move it into the sandbox. I am somewhat not really feeling well to drop it into the sandbox as long as we dont have moved the old comp

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-10 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Werner, >> As for hosting another option would be to host >> the project outside of apache until we >> have moved everything over and then move it into the sandbox. >> I am somewhat not really feeling well to drop it into the sandbox >> as long as we dont have moved the old components over >>

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-08 Thread simon
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 21:52 +0200, Werner Punz wrote: > Martin Marinschek schrieb: > > Hi all, > > > > I am -1 for adding another sub-project. > > > > Put this into the sandbox - and use the new code-generator, please, > > and upgrade the existing dojo components to the 1.1 version - > > everyth

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-08 Thread Werner Punz
] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:32 PM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project Hi! Ok then those things are cleared up, now back to the original question sandbox or own subproject? +1 for own subproject. Any further influence with tomah

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-08 Thread Volker Weber
Hi, 2008/7/8 Andrew Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > +1 to subproject > > -1 to sandbox. > > IMO, Dojo should be separated from Tomahawk +1 for that, but if i understand Werner correct his current implementation depends on tomahawk. Regards, Volker > and the sandbox is part of > Tomahawk, n

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-08 Thread Andrew Robinson
+1 to subproject -1 to sandbox. IMO, Dojo should be separated from Tomahawk and the sandbox is part of Tomahawk, not a play ground for all the different MyFaces libraries. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Ernst Fastl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Werner, > > I think it would be good to have it

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-08 Thread Martin Marinschek
> > > Come to the first annual JSFOne Conference this September! Visit > http://www.jsfone.com for details. > > > > From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:32 PM > To: MyFaces Development > Subject: Re: Dojo discussion - opensou

RE: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Kito D. Mann
details. From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 3:32 PM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project Hi! Ok then those things are cleared up, now back to the original question sandbox or own subpro

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Hazem Saleh
+1 for a subproject as well. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi! > >> > >> Ok then those things are cleared up, now back to the original question > >> sandbox or own s

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! >> >> Ok then those things are cleared up, now back to the original question >> sandbox or own subproject? > > +1 for own subproject. +1 as well -M > > Any further influence with tomahawk/sandbox needs to be avoide

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Mike Kienenberger
It doesn't make much sense to rewrite it to work as part of the sandbox project, only to pull it back out as a separate project again, especially since it's already stand-alone. +1 as a separate project. On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 3:32 PM, Mario Ivankovits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! >> >> Ok th

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Ok then those things are cleared up, now back to the original question sandbox or own subproject? +1 for own subproject. Any further influence with tomahawk/sandbox needs to be avoided. These two projects are still waiting for a overhaul themself. Ciao, Mario

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Leonardo Uribe
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Werner Punz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: > >> On [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig Russel (SUN) >> agreed that a software grant is fine. >> >> Ok then those things are cleared up, now back to the original question > sandbox or own subproject? >

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Werner Punz
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: On [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig Russel (SUN) agreed that a software grant is fine. Ok then those things are cleared up, now back to the original question sandbox or own subproject? Both options are fine for me, but with the sandbox I have to clearly make comments in the

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig Russel (SUN) agreed that a software grant is fine. -M On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I think it is fine here. My main reason for the incubator list was > just b/c this project > was completely developed offline.

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi, I think it is fine here. My main reason for the incubator list was just b/c this project was completely developed offline. So, it is (to me) a new project. That's all. For me, a software grant would be pretty much enough. -M On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 5:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Simon, On 7/7/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's great that people are thinking carefully about the right way to > handle this new code. But after some pondering, I'm happy for it to go > directly into a sandbox here and not through the incubator. I would say so as well -

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's great that people are thinking carefully about the right way to handle this new code. But after some pondering, I'm happy for it to go directly into a sandbox here and not through the incubator. My reasons are: Incubation is necessary when a brand-new project is created, in order to be s

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Werner Punz
Ok I dropped a mail in the incubator mailing list lets wait for the answers. Werner Martin Marinschek schrieb: Yes, definitely incubator should be kept in the loop. But I feel a Grant should be enough, if it is part of the sandbox. regards, Martin On 7/7/08, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Martin Marinschek
Yes, definitely incubator should be kept in the loop. But I feel a Grant should be enough, if it is part of the sandbox. regards, Martin On 7/7/08, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well best probably is to ask there, but I dont think there should >> be too much of a problem of g

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
> Well best probably is to ask there, but I dont think there should > be too much of a problem of getting it in directly without > having to go through the incubator, due to the nature of the code being > developed 100% by me. I am fine with that. But I just want to make sure everything is fine an

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Werner Punz
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: Not sure if the development is outside of the apache community the I wrote basically every single line of code so far myself. but not under an Apache umbrella. (Except for dojo) The extensive table component which is pending, is a shared work with all people invo

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
> Not sure if the development is outside of the apache community > the I wrote basically every single line of code so far myself. but not under an Apache umbrella. > (Except for dojo) > > The extensive table component which is pending, is a shared work > with all people involved having committer

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Werner Punz
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb: So my question is, are we going to host it inside of myfaces as its own subproject or as part of the sandbox or maybe I can move the codebase over to its own project outside of apache (jsfcomp for instance might be a perfect place until the entire complib is matured e

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
> So my question is, are we going to host it inside of myfaces as its own > subproject or as part of the sandbox or maybe I can move the codebase over > to its own project outside of apache (jsfcomp for instance might be a > perfect place until the entire complib is matured enough) since it was de

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Werner Punz
No decision yet... I would call it extensions, or something alike not really dojo maybe we add other frameworks as well in the long run. Werner Ernst Fastl schrieb: If moving to sandbox complicates the process a lot then maybe it would be the better idea to, as you initially suggested, start

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Ernst Fastl
If moving to sandbox complicates the process a lot then maybe it would be the better idea to, as you initially suggested, start a "tomahawk-dojo" migrate and move the dojo stuff in the sandbox to there and get rid of dojo in the sandbox. Has there already been a decision if we want to have the dojo

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Werner Punz
Ernst Fastl schrieb: Hi Werner, I think it would be good to have it in MyFaces either as a subproject or for starter if anyone feels it might not be mature enough yet in the sandbox. It would be great to have it around in tomahawk seeing we could really use some "new fancy" Web 2.0 components to

Re: Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Ernst Fastl
Hi Werner, I think it would be good to have it in MyFaces either as a subproject or for starter if anyone feels it might not be mature enough yet in the sandbox. It would be great to have it around in tomahawk seeing we could really use some "new fancy" Web 2.0 components to make tomahawk again mo

Dojo discussion - opensourcing the jsf dojo components project

2008-07-07 Thread Werner Punz
Hello everyone as some know, I have been working semi silently the last months in my opensource time on a jsf dojo layer which is rather extensive, it is a thin layer on top of dojo currently encapsulating around 23-25 of the existing dijit components (around 98% of the dijit components) I a