Re: Native packaging

2020-05-28 Thread Scott Palmer
+1 to NetBeans packaging option flipping to use jpackage on JDK 14+. In fact, if NB is running on JDK14 or greater, or even just has a Java 14 or greater JDK configured, it should be able to use jlink/jpackage to package an application even if the application project is configured to use an

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 28.05.2020, 14:44 -0400 schrieb Scott Palmer: > IANAL, but if the code is already licensed with the Apache License > 2.0, doesn’t that meansanyone is free to make a derivative > work.. I.e. by use of the license permission has already been > given. Can’t we just follow

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Scott Palmer
IANAL, but if the code is already licensed with the Apache License 2.0, doesn’t that meansanyone is free to make a derivative work.. I.e. by use of the license permission has already been given. Can’t we just follow the rules outlined in the license with respect to attribution etc.? The

Re: Apache NetBeans 12.0 beta 6

2020-05-28 Thread Scott Palmer
> On May 28, 2020, at 7:37 AM, Eric Barboni wrote: > > Hi, > For me would be easy to move native on another repo that we can build and > vote and maybe publish mavenized artefacts before IDE release. And on main > repo only use the external binaries process. That sounds like a good idea.

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread James Gosling
We all sympathize with your frustration, but if your act of kindness violates someone else’s rights, then your kindness is wasted. The Apache rules are the way they are to ensure fairness to all parties and to avoid conflict, no matter how well-intentioned the act is. > On May 28, 2020, at

Re: How to fix tests of file path on Windows?

2020-05-28 Thread Jens Hofschröer
Hi Why is the test using an absolute path anyway? shouldn't this fail on all systems? Your test string should be system dependant. (At least the base path and the File.separatorChar). On Windows it is a bad idea to write directly to "getProperty("java.home")" it is a better idea to write to

How to fix tests of file path on Windows?

2020-05-28 Thread Tomáš Procházka
Hi, what is correct way of fixing unit tests when they pass on Linux but fail on Windows because of different file path? Example Test:

Re: Netbeans notifications API

2020-05-28 Thread Jaroslav Tulach
Hello Hector. I am not following the whole discussion, but here are my thoughts anyway: In a long term, I would like to have the option to allow Netbeans use > (optionally) the OS desktop notifications. > But I have to recognize that it is a big challenge and probably it isn't a > priority. >

Re: Apache NetBeans 12.0 beta 6

2020-05-28 Thread Tomáš Procházka
+1 Both files are almost identical between releases. Regards, Tom On 28.5.2020 13:02, Scott Palmer wrote: On May 28, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 21:20, Tomáš Procházka wrote: files netbeans.exe and netbeans64.exe have wrong properties. ... Tab Details

RE: PP3 generates invalid/inconsistent catalog data

2020-05-28 Thread Eric Barboni
Sorry yes more IDE versus pp3 code. Because if no important impact on IDE code I can prepare voting candidate. Otherwise we should wait a bit. Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Neil C Smith Envoyé : jeudi 28 mai 2020 12:26 À : dev Objet : Re: PP3 generates

RE: Apache NetBeans 12.0 beta 6

2020-05-28 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi, For me would be easy to move native on another repo that we can build and vote and maybe publish mavenized artefacts before IDE release. And on main repo only use the external binaries process. Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Neil C Smith Envoyé : jeudi 28 mai 2020 13:18

Problem with updating Local Tasks

2020-05-28 Thread Jeremy Cavanagh
Hi, I'm testing 12b6 and there is a strange problem with windows requiring input not being given focus. I have opened plugins to check for updates. Local tasks required updating, selecting the update button opens the verify certificate window in the foreground as expected. Then, clicking

Re: Apache NetBeans 12.0 beta 6

2020-05-28 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 12:02, Scott Palmer wrote: > Change it to say “Apache NetBeans Launcher” instead of “NetBeans IDE” and > keep the version info. Change the version when the launcher code is modified. Yes, better idea, although be good if the version is noticeably out of sync with the IDE.

Re: Apache NetBeans 12.0 beta 6

2020-05-28 Thread Scott Palmer
> On May 28, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 21:20, Tomáš Procházka wrote: >> files netbeans.exe and netbeans64.exe have wrong properties. > ... >> Tab Details shows product name "NetBeans IDE 9.0", file version 9.0.0.0 >> and product version 9.0.0.0. >>

Re: PP3 generates invalid/inconsistent catalog data

2020-05-28 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 11:21, Jiří Kovalský wrote: > I am afraid it is our Apache NetBeans code, not anything Apache > Infra can help with. I took that question to be whether it's a bug in the IDE (release problem!) or in the plugin portal code? Sounds like the IDE could handle invalid data

Re: PP3 generates invalid/inconsistent catalog data

2020-05-28 Thread Jiří Kovalský
Hi Eric, I am afraid it is our Apache NetBeans code, not anything Apache Infra can help with. Best regards, -Jirka Dne 28. 05. 20 v 12:09 Eric Barboni napsal(a): Hi, This is our infra issue or is this an issue in Apache NetBeans code itself ? Best Regards Eric -Message

RE: PP3 generates invalid/inconsistent catalog data (was: Re: Critical (BLOCKER?) Plugin Manager timeout on installation with 12.0beta5 corrupts something)

2020-05-28 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi, This is our infra issue or is this an issue in Apache NetBeans code itself ? Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Matthias Bläsing Envoyé : mercredi 27 mai 2020 23:36 À : dev@netbeans.apache.org Objet : PP3 generates invalid/inconsistent catalog data (was: Re: Critical

Re: Apache NetBeans 12.0 beta 6

2020-05-28 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 21:20, Tomáš Procházka wrote: > files netbeans.exe and netbeans64.exe have wrong properties. ... > Tab Details shows product name "NetBeans IDE 9.0", file version 9.0.0.0 > and product version 9.0.0.0. > Expected product name is "NetBeans IDE 12.0", file and product

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, otherwise we’ll be stealing someone else’s code. Gj On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 11:32, Christian Lenz wrote: > Why the hell is everything so fucking complicated? We need to discuss > every single bit of everything. That makes sense for ASF but not for me as > a developer who wants to bring

AW: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Christian Lenz
Why the hell is everything so fucking complicated? We need to discuss every single bit of everything. That makes sense for ASF but not for me as a developer who wants to bring amazing new stuff to NetBeans or wherever and wants to help NetBeans gets better and better. It is annoying for me and

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 09:48, Christian Lenz wrote: > So I can create a ticket in his repo to ask him and if the developer say: > that’s fine. That’s it? No, it needs to be recorded here somewhere. Note that all GitHub comments are archived by ASF, so this could verify intent to contribute.

AW: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Christian Lenz
> Other thing is, when the developer Handsover the complete repo to a new > owner, is this enough too? What about this? Von: Geertjan Wielenga Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2020 11:16 An: dev@netbeans.apache.org Betreff: Re: Contributing community plugin codes NetBeans is simply an Apache

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
NetBeans is simply an Apache project guided by Apache rules. Yes, we do need the involvement of the author of code to be able to incorporate it. Gj On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 10:48, Christian Lenz wrote: > So I can create a ticket in his repo to ask him and if the developer say: > that’s fine.

AW: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Christian Lenz
So I can create a ticket in his repo to ask him and if the developer say: that’s fine. That’s it? Some people don’t have interest anymore, don’t have time if we find a new owner, like me we can do that? Other thing is, when the developer Handsover the complete repo to a new owner, is this

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Because that was Jan’s own code. Without an explicit statement from the owner of a piece of code that they want it to be donated to Apache NetBeans, ideally they would do the steps themselves, we cannot include it. Gj On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 10:29, Christian Lenz wrote: > I think it depends on

AW: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Christian Lenz
I think it depends on the Plugin Code. I mean this is a little action, nothing more. And there is IMHO no difference, when I build it by my own or fork it and use the code for myself. As I mentioned before, there where also no problems for the line ending switcher from Jan Lahoda. He created

RE: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Eric Barboni
Hi I think we should follow IP clearance process. Last one we did was for dukescript http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/netbeans-dukescript-presenters.html Best Regards Eric -Message d'origine- De : Neil C Smith Envoyé : jeudi 28 mai 2020 10:02 À : dev Objet : Re: Contributing

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 27 May 2020 at 19:13, Christian Lenz wrote: > are any problems to take the code of community plugins (3rd-party-pugins) and > contribute them to the core after asking the founder of the plugin? ... The > code is already Apache License 2.0. So any concerns of not doing this? +1 in

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Kai Uwe Pel
+1 Kai On 5/27/2020 8:13 PM, Christian Lenz wrote: Hey all, are any problems to take the code of community plugins (3rd-party-pugins) and contribute them to the core after asking the founder of the plugin? I got some plugins from markiewb (Restart IDE, close project files, etc.) and IMHO

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Mario Schroeder
+1 from me, because I still have a plug in for Bamboo CI which I would like to contribute Sven Reimers schrieb am Do., 28. Mai 2020, 08:41: > Sounds good > > +1 > > -Sven > > Christian Lenz schrieb am Mi., 27. Mai 2020, > 20:13: > > > Hey all, > > > > are any problems to take the code of

Re: Contributing community plugin codes

2020-05-28 Thread Sven Reimers
Sounds good +1 -Sven Christian Lenz schrieb am Mi., 27. Mai 2020, 20:13: > Hey all, > > are any problems to take the code of community plugins (3rd-party-pugins) > and contribute them to the core after asking the founder of the plugin? I > got some plugins from markiewb (Restart IDE, close