Right, thanks a lot for that reference.
What Kirk is looking at doing via AdoptOpenJDK is: "Free copies of Apache
NetBeans software under the Apache License and support services for Apache
NetBeans are available at AdoptOpenJDK."
Meanwhile, since Emilian has modified Apache NetBeans (added some
On Fri, 31 May 2019, 09:21 Geertjan Wielenga, wrote:
> I believe so, but cannot confirm with 100% certainty.
>
Is there ever 100% certainty?! :-)
The first example of nominative fair use here appears to cover exactly this
though?
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/#guidelines
I assume
I believe so, but cannot confirm with 100% certainty.
Is there a way we can provide this certainty, i.e., is this something we
can decide ourselves or do we need to have this approved by Apache -- does
anyone know?
Thanks,
Gj
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 3:12 AM Kodewerk wrote:
> Hi Gj,
>
> Can
Yeah, I could be wrong. Maybe rebranding is not needed if indeed the binary
is made from unmodified sources.
Gj
On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 23:11, Neil C Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:02 Kodewerk, wrote:
>
> > I would personally prefer Apache-NetBeans… but I’ve been told that we
> >
On Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:02 Kodewerk, wrote:
> I would personally prefer Apache-NetBeans… but I’ve been told that we
> needed to rebrand.
>
Well, this is the thread I'm thinking of -
I would personally prefer Apache-NetBeans… but I’ve been told that we needed to
rebrand.
— Kirk
> On May 30, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Neil C Smith wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 May 2019, 18:47 Kodewerk, wrote:
>
>> For example, I believe we can’t call the distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re
>> thinking of
On Thu, 30 May 2019, 18:47 Kodewerk, wrote:
> For example, I believe we can’t call the distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re
> thinking of calling it Adopt-NetBeans.
>
While l wouldn't want to stop use of Adopt NetBeans, because it sounds
great, I'm not sure you can't use Apache NetBeans. If I recall
Adopt Netbeans is fine. Because of those developers who want php support
only or html/js.
+1
On Thu, May 30, 2019, 20:32 Josh Juneau wrote:
> I love the idea of the Adopt project distributing NetBeans as
> "Adopt-NetBeans". The AdoptOpenJDK page makes it easy for newcomers to get
>
I love the idea of the Adopt project distributing NetBeans as
"Adopt-NetBeans". The AdoptOpenJDK page makes it easy for newcomers to get
started...and even easier with NetBeans as an option.
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 12:29 PM Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
> “Adopt NetBeans” would not only be a name,
“Adopt NetBeans” would not only be a name, it would also be a ‘call to
action’. :-)
Gj
On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 19:23, Matthias Bläsing
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 30.05.2019, 09:46 -0700 schrieb Kodewerk:
> > The Adopt project would like to distribute NetBeans but we’ve yet to
> > sort
Hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 30.05.2019, 09:46 -0700 schrieb Kodewerk:
> The Adopt project would like to distribute NetBeans but we’ve yet to
> sort out what is needed to make that happen. For example, I believe
> we can’t call the distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re thinking of calling
> it
: jueves, 30 de mayo de 2019 11:45 a. m.
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?
I have been using Azul Zulu JDK for a while now with no issues. Very simple
zip to extract. +1 for targeting Zulu as the free OpenJDK for use.
However, I'm not sure
Hi all,
The Adopt project would like to distribute NetBeans but we’ve yet to sort out
what is needed to make that happen. For example, I believe we can’t call the
distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re thinking of calling it Adopt-NetBeans. This
implies that there a number of things we need to alter
I have been using Azul Zulu JDK for a while now with no issues. Very
simple zip to extract. +1 for targeting Zulu as the free OpenJDK for use.
However, I'm not sure if we could necessarily "Package" it with Apache
NetBeans. If there is an OpenJDK that would be acceptable for packaging
along
The other problem with .ZIP is that it doesn't preserve permissions bits
for *nix, breaking Maven and several other built-in tools.
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM mike james
wrote:
> Hi
> I'm new so tell me if I'm doing something wrong/odd.
>
> Can I just say that while experienced
OK, which one?
Gj
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 5:36 PM mike james
wrote:
> Yes go for the installer - important to get new users no question about it.
> And I follow about licencing problem (sometimes I think FOSS licensing is
> also too confusing for mortals).
> But - at least pick one and include
port also available)
> > https://bell-sw.com/java.html
> >
> >
> > Oracle OpenJDK build
> > http://jdk.java.net/
> >
> > SapMachine
> > http://sapmachine.io
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Eduardo Quintanilla
> > Softw
NetBeans runs on JDK 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12.
But that's not the point in this discussion. The discussion is about
installers -- and just to save some time here, we cannot bundle the JDK
with NetBeans into an installer and then distribute that installer from
Apache because the JDK is GPL licensed,
OK, let's target beginners. Hmmm which JDK should we focus on? How do
we decide? There's no way to decide, we cannot decide for beginners or
anyone else which JDK they should use. No other tool or IDE can do that
either.
Gj
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM mike james
wrote:
> See I told you
See I told you it was confusing.
I know I'm going on about beginners a lot but you really do need to target
them.
You have got the experienced seasoned user and they aren't going anywhere
unless
there is a really good reason but the future is in the beginner. If they go
off to IntelliJ, Eclipse or
t; http://jdk.java.net/
>
> SapMachine
> http://sapmachine.io
>
> Best regards,
>
> Eduardo Quintanilla
> Software Developer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Geertjan Wielenga
> Sent: jueves, 30 de mayo de 2019 6:00 a. m.
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: Installers
It is exactly this sort of confusion that makes it tougher for beginners to
get started.
I tried to help a beginner recently and I got confuse too :-)
If I remember correctly the old installer checked for an installation and
told you want to do if it didn't find one.
I think the current installer
Hi
I'm new so tell me if I'm doing something wrong/odd.
Can I just say that while experienced programmers have no problems with
"unzip this" and so on
NetBeans is a very attractive IDE for the complete beginner and an
installer lowers the barrier to
them getting started with NetBeans in
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