Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 30 May 2019, 18:47 Kodewerk, wrote: > For example, I believe we can’t call the distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re > thinking of calling it Adopt-NetBeans. > While l wouldn't want to stop use of Adopt NetBeans, because it sounds great, I'm not sure you can't use Apache NetBeans. If I recall

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 Java EE 8 Support (Ready for Testing)

2019-05-30 Thread Jose Ch
Problem solved the error just occurred with the latest code on master not with the code on https://netbeans.apache.org/download/nb110/nb110.html. I will test my projects and keep you updated. Jose. El jue., 30 may. 2019 a las 14:49, Josh Juneau () escribió: > Hi Jose, > > Thanks for testing!

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Kodewerk
I would personally prefer Apache-NetBeans… but I’ve been told that we needed to rebrand. — Kirk > On May 30, 2019, at 2:00 PM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 30 May 2019, 18:47 Kodewerk, wrote: > >> For example, I believe we can’t call the distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re >> thinking of

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 Java EE 8 Support (Ready for Testing)

2019-05-30 Thread Josh Juneau
Thanks for all of the great feedback on the Java EE 8 support for Apache NetBeans thus far. I have updated the README to direct individuals to install the "Oracle JS Parser" and "nbjavac" after building and running the IDE using a new userdir. Once completed, the IDE should allow one to add

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Neil C Smith
On Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:02 Kodewerk, wrote: > I would personally prefer Apache-NetBeans… but I’ve been told that we > needed to rebrand. > Well, this is the thread I'm thinking of -

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yeah, I could be wrong. Maybe rebranding is not needed if indeed the binary is made from unmodified sources. Gj On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 23:11, Neil C Smith wrote: > On Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:02 Kodewerk, wrote: > > > I would personally prefer Apache-NetBeans… but I’ve been told that we > >

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 Java EE 8 Support (Ready for Testing)

2019-05-30 Thread Josh Juneau
Thanks for the update Jose...I appreciate it. Let me know if you run into issues creating new Java EE 8 projects or deploying to GlassFish 5, GlassFish 5.0.1, or GlassFish 5.1 Josh Juneau juneau...@gmail.com http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau > On

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 Java EE 8 Support (Ready for Testing)

2019-05-30 Thread Josh Juneau
Hi Jose, Thanks for testing! Did you download a fresh copy of the Apache NetBeans 11.0 sources and overwrite the enterprise directory? It looks like you may have duplicate modules in your directory. Perhaps delete the original enterprise directory and then copy the Java EE 8 supported

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread mike james
Hi I'm new so tell me if I'm doing something wrong/odd. Can I just say that while experienced programmers have no problems with "unzip this" and so on NetBeans is a very attractive IDE for the complete beginner and an installer lowers the barrier to them getting started with NetBeans in

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread mike james
It is exactly this sort of confusion that makes it tougher for beginners to get started. I tried to help a beginner recently and I got confuse too :-) If I remember correctly the old installer checked for an installation and told you want to do if it didn't find one. I think the current installer

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
But there's several more, e.g., off the top of my head, Pivotal has one and there's also JetBrains Runtime. Gj On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 3:28 PM Eduardo Quintanilla wrote: > I would recommend reading the Java Is Still Free document > >

Re: Issues for NB 11.1

2019-05-30 Thread Laszlo Kishalmi
Use the version "Next" in JIRA On 5/30/19 5:06 AM, Svata Dedic wrote: Hi, I want to ask - how should we mark issues which are intended to be solved in NetBeans 11.1 ? Right now, I have: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2361 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2565

Issues for NB 11.1 (was: Re: [Lazy Consensus] Release schedule)

2019-05-30 Thread Svata Dedic
Hi, I want to ask - how should we mark issues which are intended to be solved in NetBeans 11.1 ? Right now, I have: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2361 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2565 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2577 Two of them are

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
NetBeans runs on JDK 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12. But that's not the point in this discussion. The discussion is about installers -- and just to save some time here, we cannot bundle the JDK with NetBeans into an installer and then distribute that installer from Apache because the JDK is GPL licensed,

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
OK, let's target beginners. Hmmm which JDK should we focus on? How do we decide? There's no way to decide, we cannot decide for beginners or anyone else which JDK they should use. No other tool or IDE can do that either. Gj On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 4:07 PM mike james wrote: > See I told you

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread mike james
See I told you it was confusing. I know I'm going on about beginners a lot but you really do need to target them. You have got the experienced seasoned user and they aren't going anywhere unless there is a really good reason but the future is in the beginner. If they go off to IntelliJ, Eclipse or

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
OK, which one? Gj On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 5:36 PM mike james wrote: > Yes go for the installer - important to get new users no question about it. > And I follow about licencing problem (sometimes I think FOSS licensing is > also too confusing for mortals). > But - at least pick one and include

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Josh Juneau
I have been using Azul Zulu JDK for a while now with no issues. Very simple zip to extract. +1 for targeting Zulu as the free OpenJDK for use. However, I'm not sure if we could necessarily "Package" it with Apache NetBeans. If there is an OpenJDK that would be acceptable for packaging along

Re: Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1

2019-05-30 Thread Eric Bresie
This is probably an enhancement request or an activity for a future time but with the more recent changes in Java I seem to recall with the jlink and/or jpackage coming that it is possible to no longer require a JDK directly be installed but build a package with a subset of items for inclusion

Re: Updating the NetBeans website page

2019-05-30 Thread mark stephens
I have added https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/368 to fix 2 gremlins I introduced and include Antonio’s suggestions. Kind Regards, MArk > >> On 24 May 2019, at 18:38, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: >> >> Bottom of the page you should see that you can edit the page live on GitHub. >>

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
The other problem with .ZIP is that it doesn't preserve permissions bits for *nix, breaking Maven and several other built-in tools. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 11:55 AM mike james wrote: > Hi > I'm new so tell me if I'm doing something wrong/odd. > > Can I just say that while experienced

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Kodewerk
Hi all, The Adopt project would like to distribute NetBeans but we’ve yet to sort out what is needed to make that happen. For example, I believe we can’t call the distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re thinking of calling it Adopt-NetBeans. This implies that there a number of things we need to alter

Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 Java EE 8 Support (Ready for Testing)

2019-05-30 Thread Jose Ch
Hi Josh, Thank you for your work! I followed the instructions but I get this error: BUILD FAILED /home/user/Apps/Development/netbeans-master/nbbuild/build.xml:193: java.io.IOException: Duplicated module org.netbeans.modules.j2ee.jboss4: found in

Re: ? about pull request..

2019-05-30 Thread Brad Walker
Hey Matthias, Once last thing since I'm a newbie at this.. Since you approved the changes, do I need to do anything else on my end to get it merged into the tree? -brad w. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 12:17 PM Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi Brad, > > Am Donnerstag, den 30.05.2019, 11:37 -0600

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
“Adopt NetBeans” would not only be a name, it would also be a ‘call to action’. :-) Gj On Thu, 30 May 2019 at 19:23, Matthias Bläsing wrote: > Hi, > > Am Donnerstag, den 30.05.2019, 09:46 -0700 schrieb Kodewerk: > > The Adopt project would like to distribute NetBeans but we’ve yet to > > sort

? about pull request..

2019-05-30 Thread Brad Walker
I submitted a pull request today.. https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1272 It seems like the Travis build server is "stuck" waiting for my build job to get queued.. As a newbie, I'm just curious to know if I'm missing something or is it really stuck in the queue.. Thanks for any insight..

Re: ? about pull request..

2019-05-30 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi Brad, Am Donnerstag, den 30.05.2019, 11:37 -0600 schrieb Brad Walker: > I submitted a pull request today.. > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/1272 > > It seems like the Travis build server is "stuck" waiting for my build job > to get queued.. > > As a newbie, I'm just curious to

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Patrick Musembi
Adopt Netbeans is fine. Because of those developers who want php support only or html/js. +1 On Thu, May 30, 2019, 20:32 Josh Juneau wrote: > I love the idea of the Adopt project distributing NetBeans as > "Adopt-NetBeans". The AdoptOpenJDK page makes it easy for newcomers to get >

RE: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Eduardo Quintanilla
How about downloading the JDK as a step in the installer? Then any distribution could be added to that list by the community with a PR request and no license issues will be needed to solve. Best regards, Eduardo Quintanilla Software Developer -Original Message- From: Josh Juneau

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 30.05.2019, 09:46 -0700 schrieb Kodewerk: > The Adopt project would like to distribute NetBeans but we’ve yet to > sort out what is needed to make that happen. For example, I believe > we can’t call the distro Apache-NetBeans so we’re thinking of calling > it

Re: Installers -- making them official for 11.1?

2019-05-30 Thread Josh Juneau
I love the idea of the Adopt project distributing NetBeans as "Adopt-NetBeans". The AdoptOpenJDK page makes it easy for newcomers to get started...and even easier with NetBeans as an option. On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 12:29 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > “Adopt NetBeans” would not only be a name,