Re: Failing builds

2018-08-22 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
Hi,

The cause is the following:

BUILD FAILED
/home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/workspace/incubator-netbeans-linux/nbbuild/build.xml:203:
The following error occurred while executing this line:
/home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/workspace/incubator-netbeans-linux/nbbuild/templates/common.xml:456:
Exception reading blurb from
/home/jenkins/jenkins-slave/workspace/incubator-netbeans-linux/platform/nbbuild/licenses/CPL-1.0

"/platform/nbbuild/licenses/CPL-1.0" does not exist. Maybe,
"/nbbuild/licenses/CPL-1.0"
Could someone fix this?

Thanks,
Junichi
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 4:22 AM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The builds have been failing for some time:
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-windows/
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/
>
> I think before merging more prs, we need to figure out what the reason for
> the build failures is.
>
> I'm trying to figure it out, if anyone else can take a look too, that would
> help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj

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RE: Failing builds

2018-08-22 Thread Eirik Bakke
If I understand correctly, there are now two separate build systems being 
used--Jenkins, and Travis. The latter is the one that gives a "green light" on 
Github's pull request page ("All checks have passed"), but it does not seem to 
run any tests. So GitHub pull requests will show a green light even though they 
might break the Jenkins build, potentially misleading reviewers and submitters.

Ideally, Github's pull request page would show a failure if a proposed patch 
would cause any of the Jenkins builds to fail. That would prevent future pull 
requests from breaking the build.

Also note that Jenkins only seems to run tests in modules belonging to the 
"platform" cluster. Thus there are many tests that are not run at all by either 
Jenkins or Travis, e.g. in the editor and editor.lib/lib2 modules. It would be 
great to get the full test suite running on either Jenkins, Travis, or 
both--otherwise more and more unexercised tests risk breaking over time without 
anyone noticing.

--Eirik

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From: Geertjan Wielenga  
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2018 3:22 PM
To: dev 
Subject: Failing builds

Hi all,

The builds have been failing for some time:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-windows/

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/

I think before merging more prs, we need to figure out what the reason for
the build failures is.

I'm trying to figure it out, if anyone else can take a look too, that would
help.

Thanks,

Gj


Re: Failing builds

2018-08-22 Thread John McDonnell
Hi Geertjan,

So I think I have the current windows build issue worked out, and I think
its related to the java cluster move.  I want to check something first from
an older version of netbeans before I commit to be 100% sure but I think
its okay.

That said the windows builds have been red for a while, so if I have time
tomorrow I'll look again at the issue if its still red tomorrow.

On the linux builds, I think we need to get in touch with Infra, something
looks fishy with the environments tied to the ubuntu label.  I don't have
time to do this now, but maybe someone else can reach out to them? Or they
might be aware already and working on it.

Regards

John

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 20:28, John McDonnell 
wrote:

> I'll take a look at the windows one now for a bit.
>
> I was looking at creating a pipeline build as an alternative over the next
> week but fixing these would be a pre-requisite so makes sense...
>
> John
>
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 20:22, Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The builds have been failing for some time:
>>
>> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-windows/
>>
>> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/
>>
>> I think before merging more prs, we need to figure out what the reason for
>> the build failures is.
>>
>> I'm trying to figure it out, if anyone else can take a look too, that
>> would
>> help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj
>>
>


Re: Failing builds

2018-08-22 Thread John McDonnell
I'll take a look at the windows one now for a bit.

I was looking at creating a pipeline build as an alternative over the next
week but fixing these would be a pre-requisite so makes sense...

John

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 20:22, Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The builds have been failing for some time:
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-windows/
>
> https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/
>
> I think before merging more prs, we need to figure out what the reason for
> the build failures is.
>
> I'm trying to figure it out, if anyone else can take a look too, that would
> help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>


Failing builds

2018-08-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all,

The builds have been failing for some time:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-windows/

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/

I think before merging more prs, we need to figure out what the reason for
the build failures is.

I'm trying to figure it out, if anyone else can take a look too, that would
help.

Thanks,

Gj


Re: NB 9 Platform Maven arifacts

2018-08-22 Thread Eirik Bakke
> I would rather add them to my internal repo and be able to find them than
have to wait. Can we provide some instructions on how to do this.


+1. I'd love to bump my platform application to NB9 so that it can start
using the latest JDK--in particular because of improved HiDPI support on
Windows.

-- Eirik

On 8/22/18, 7:37 AM, "David Beer"  wrote:

>Hi Geerjan
>
>So the main problem is that becasue the domain has not be transfered yet,
>means that the maven artifacts can't be uploaded to the original site. Can
>we not upload them somewhere or have the source for the archetype so that
>we can build it and deploy to our own maven repos, and a way of building
>the artifacts for now and pushing to our own repos.
>
>I would rather add them to my internal repo and be able to find them than
>have to wait. Can we provide some instructions on how to do this.
>
>Thanks
>
>David
>
>On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 10:54, Geertjan Wielenga
> wrote:
>
>> The problem here is that netbeans.org has not yet been donated to Apache
>> by
>> Oracle hence org.netbeans does not belong to Apache hence org.netbeans
>> cannot be used for Maven archetypes.
>>
>> So, we need to wait for the brand/domain donation to be completed before
>> going further with this -- and there's been quite some movement around
>>that
>> recently, so I have hope that it shouldn't take too long anymore.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:37 PM, John McDonnell
>>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi David,
>> >
>> > Have a look at the archives of this list:
>> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@netbeans.apache.org:
>> > lte=5M:maven%20release
>> >
>> > Check the email from Emilian Bold (4th one down as I search now),
>>that's
>> > the last info on this topic I believe...\
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 22:04, David Beer 
>>wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi All
>> > >
>> > > I have recently downloaded Netbeans 9 Incubator release, hoping to
>> start
>> > > development using the NB 9 platform. However there was no option to
>>use
>> > the
>> > > NB 9 Release and secondly will the modules be built like they were
>> > > previously and added to a maven repository.
>> > >
>> > > Any news on the progress around being able to build using the NB9
>> > Platform
>> > > using maven?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > David
>> > >
>> >
>>


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Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Very good point.

Gj

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:

> On 08/21/2018 01:26 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on
>> uploading the recording right now, will send it around when done), we
>> suddenly ended up talking about some kind of periodic recognition for
>> those
>> who have really contributed significantly over a particular period.
>>
>> I think that could be really nice, e.g., most recently in the 2nd donation
>> relicensing process, Thilina, Junichi, Matthias, Gilberto, amongst others,
>> have been doing amazing work, essential for the next release:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/2nd+
>> Donation%3A+List+of+Modules+to+Review
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls
>>
>> So, what do we think about this idea? (Could also be nice for people's
>> resume to have something like "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month,
>> August 2018", or something like that.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
> Hmmm, how about 'contributor' instead of 'developer'? If you pick the
> latter, you are inadvertently leaving out non-code contributions, and I
> don't think that's what we should be aiming for. Documentation, evangelism,
> outreach and speaking about NetBeans, spreading the love for the program,
> should also count towards contributing to the project. We are defined by
> the community, not just by the code-product we produce.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
>
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Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-22 Thread Daniel Gruno

On 08/21/2018 01:26 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on
uploading the recording right now, will send it around when done), we
suddenly ended up talking about some kind of periodic recognition for those
who have really contributed significantly over a particular period.

I think that could be really nice, e.g., most recently in the 2nd donation
relicensing process, Thilina, Junichi, Matthias, Gilberto, amongst others,
have been doing amazing work, essential for the next release:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/2nd+Donation%3A+List+of+Modules+to+Review

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls

So, what do we think about this idea? (Could also be nice for people's
resume to have something like "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month,
August 2018", or something like that.)

Thanks,

Gj



Hmmm, how about 'contributor' instead of 'developer'? If you pick the 
latter, you are inadvertently leaving out non-code contributions, and I 
don't think that's what we should be aiming for. Documentation, 
evangelism, outreach and speaking about NetBeans, spreading the love for 
the program, should also count towards contributing to the project. We 
are defined by the community, not just by the code-product we produce.


With regards,
Daniel.

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RE: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-22 Thread constantin drabo
+1

?? La Terre est le berceau de l'humanit??, mais on ne passe pas sa vie enti??re 
dans un berceau. ??
- ConstantinE. Tsiolkovski , p??re de l'astronautique?? et de 
l'a??rospatiale modernes.

De : Geertjan Wielenga 
Envoyé : mercredi 22 août 2018 00:26
À : dev
Objet : Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

We could use this: https://bonus.ly/ :-)

Gj

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Kai Uwe Pel  wrote:

> +1 !!!
>
>
> Regards,
> Kai
>
>
>
> On 8/22/2018 12:32 AM, Josh Juneau wrote:
>
>> Great idea!
>>
>>
>> Josh Juneau
>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on
>>> uploading the recording right now, will send it around when done), we
>>> suddenly ended up talking about some kind of periodic recognition for
>>> those
>>> who have really contributed significantly over a particular period.
>>>
>>> I think that could be really nice, e.g., most recently in the 2nd
>>> donation
>>> relicensing process, Thilina, Junichi, Matthias, Gilberto, amongst
>>> others,
>>> have been doing amazing work, essential for the next release:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/2nd+
>>> Donation%3A+List+of+Modules+to+Review
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls
>>>
>>> So, what do we think about this idea? (Could also be nice for people's
>>> resume to have something like "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month,
>>> August 2018", or something like that.)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2

2018-08-22 Thread Josh Juneau
Hi Geertjan,

I'll add the wiki page.  An hour or two later would work for me (13:00 CEST
/ 06:00 CST OR 14:00 CEST / 07:00 CST).  I could also do 11:30 or 12:00
CST, but that would put you in CEST into the evening.

Thanks

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 8:36 AM Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> Yes, please do. Thanks, great.
>
> At the same time, what would be a better time for those in the Americas to
> meet? I.e., probably we need a meeting time for Europe, Americas, and APAC,
> and then from meeting to meeting we’ll move to different timezones.
>
> Gj
>
> On Wednesday, August 22, 2018, Josh Juneau  wrote:
>
> > Thanks for writing up the notes Geertjan.  Can I create a wiki page to
> post
> > the notes for each meeting?  It is difficult for me to attend the
> meetings
> > during the alloted time, but I can maintain a wiki page containing notes
> if
> > someone will send them after each meeting.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:41 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > bdelacre...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:16 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> > >  wrote:
> > > > ...Notes...
> > >
> > > Thank you! Having notes and links here allows everyone to participate,
> > > without having to listen to long recordings.
> > >
> > > -Bertrand
> > >
> > > -
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > Josh Juneau
> > juneau...@gmail.com
> > http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> >
>
-- 
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Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2

2018-08-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Yes, please do. Thanks, great.

At the same time, what would be a better time for those in the Americas to
meet? I.e., probably we need a meeting time for Europe, Americas, and APAC,
and then from meeting to meeting we’ll move to different timezones.

Gj

On Wednesday, August 22, 2018, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Thanks for writing up the notes Geertjan.  Can I create a wiki page to post
> the notes for each meeting?  It is difficult for me to attend the meetings
> during the alloted time, but I can maintain a wiki page containing notes if
> someone will send them after each meeting.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:41 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <
> bdelacre...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:16 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> >  wrote:
> > > ...Notes...
> >
> > Thank you! Having notes and links here allows everyone to participate,
> > without having to listen to long recordings.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
> > -
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> Josh Juneau
> juneau...@gmail.com
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>


Re: Agenda and doodle for Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2

2018-08-22 Thread Josh Juneau
Thanks for writing up the notes Geertjan.  Can I create a wiki page to post
the notes for each meeting?  It is difficult for me to attend the meetings
during the alloted time, but I can maintain a wiki page containing notes if
someone will send them after each meeting.

Thanks

On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 7:41 AM Bertrand Delacretaz 
wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:16 PM Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
> > ...Notes...
>
> Thank you! Having notes and links here allows everyone to participate,
> without having to listen to long recordings.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
We could use this: https://bonus.ly/ :-)

Gj

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Kai Uwe Pel  wrote:

> +1 !!!
>
>
> Regards,
> Kai
>
>
>
> On 8/22/2018 12:32 AM, Josh Juneau wrote:
>
>> Great idea!
>>
>>
>> Josh Juneau
>> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
>> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on
>>> uploading the recording right now, will send it around when done), we
>>> suddenly ended up talking about some kind of periodic recognition for
>>> those
>>> who have really contributed significantly over a particular period.
>>>
>>> I think that could be really nice, e.g., most recently in the 2nd
>>> donation
>>> relicensing process, Thilina, Junichi, Matthias, Gilberto, amongst
>>> others,
>>> have been doing amazing work, essential for the next release:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/2nd+
>>> Donation%3A+List+of+Modules+to+Review
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls
>>>
>>> So, what do we think about this idea? (Could also be nice for people's
>>> resume to have something like "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month,
>>> August 2018", or something like that.)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: NB 9 Platform Maven arifacts

2018-08-22 Thread David Beer
Hi Geerjan

So the main problem is that becasue the domain has not be transfered yet,
means that the maven artifacts can't be uploaded to the original site. Can
we not upload them somewhere or have the source for the archetype so that
we can build it and deploy to our own maven repos, and a way of building
the artifacts for now and pushing to our own repos.

I would rather add them to my internal repo and be able to find them than
have to wait. Can we provide some instructions on how to do this.

Thanks

David

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 10:54, Geertjan Wielenga
 wrote:

> The problem here is that netbeans.org has not yet been donated to Apache
> by
> Oracle hence org.netbeans does not belong to Apache hence org.netbeans
> cannot be used for Maven archetypes.
>
> So, we need to wait for the brand/domain donation to be completed before
> going further with this -- and there's been quite some movement around that
> recently, so I have hope that it shouldn't take too long anymore.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:37 PM, John McDonnell  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> >
> > Have a look at the archives of this list:
> > https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@netbeans.apache.org:
> > lte=5M:maven%20release
> >
> > Check the email from Emilian Bold (4th one down as I search now), that's
> > the last info on this topic I believe...\
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 at 22:04, David Beer  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > I have recently downloaded Netbeans 9 Incubator release, hoping to
> start
> > > development using the NB 9 platform. However there was no option to use
> > the
> > > NB 9 Release and secondly will the modules be built like they were
> > > previously and added to a maven repository.
> > >
> > > Any news on the progress around being able to build using the NB9
> > Platform
> > > using maven?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> >
>


Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-22 Thread Neil C Smith
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 00:47, Scott Palmer  wrote:
> Yes, but JDK 8 becomes an unsupported platform soon (unless you pay).  When 
> that support ends in early 2019, I think it makes sense that NetBeans can be 
> built with a supported JDK.

You are talking purely about Oracle's JDK, not JDK 8 in general, and
even then that's not the only relevant date.  If you're really
advocating that NetBeans should require Oracle's free JDK to build,
we'll be changing build requirements every six months! ;-)

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 04:41, Jan Lahoda  wrote:
>
> What might be more complex is a NB Platform application that enhances the
> Java support, but I suspect most platform apps don't do that.

I'm hoping I've now migrated away from anything that might be a
problem there.  Next step is to start experimenting with upgrading 8.2
-> 9.0.  Assuming, of course, we continue supporting JDK 8! :-)

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-22 Thread Kai Uwe Pel

+1 !!!


Regards,
Kai


On 8/22/2018 12:32 AM, Josh Juneau wrote:

Great idea!


Josh Juneau
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866



On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga 
 wrote:

Hi all,

In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on
uploading the recording right now, will send it around when done), we
suddenly ended up talking about some kind of periodic recognition for those
who have really contributed significantly over a particular period.

I think that could be really nice, e.g., most recently in the 2nd donation
relicensing process, Thilina, Junichi, Matthias, Gilberto, amongst others,
have been doing amazing work, essential for the next release:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/2nd+Donation%3A+List+of+Modules+to+Review

https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls

So, what do we think about this idea? (Could also be nice for people's
resume to have something like "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month,
August 2018", or something like that.)

Thanks,

Gj




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Re: Advice on hacking NetBeans IDE

2018-08-22 Thread mark stephens


On 22 Aug 2018, at 08:29, Christian Lenz 
mailto:christian.l...@gmx.net>> wrote:

That sounds great to me, I often wondering, why is „Show history“ deactivated, 
when I’ve selected a Folder or a Project. Local history for more then only a 
single file, makes much more sense 

The short answer is that the code detects and switches it off…. With NetBeans 
easy to download and run in NetBeans it is relatively straight-forward to set 
some breakpoints and find it in  ShowHistoryAction in the method protected 
boolean enable(Node[] activatedNodes)

I am trying to see if I can add in the code to provide this multi-file support. 
As it looks similar to what happens in Git/Diff, that is why I am hacking 
around there first to see what I can reuse….

My plan is to document it all in a series of blog posts on hacking the NetBeans 
IDE. There is also a talk at I am doing at CodeOne Conference San Francisco in 
October called Hacking the NetBeans IDE[BOF4760]. There might just be a 
connection….

Kind Regards,

MArk


AW: Advice on hacking NetBeans IDE

2018-08-22 Thread Christian Lenz
That sounds great to me, I often wondering, why is „Show history“ deactivated, 
when I’ve selected a Folder or a Project. Local history for more then only a 
single file, makes much more sense 


Cheers

Chris

Von: mark stephens
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. August 2018 09:23
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Advice on hacking NetBeans IDE

Tim,

Thanks for the reply.

I do not like the fact that localHistory is limited to a single file. I would 
like it to apply to any selection.

Git already does this with a Diff feature so I am trying to implement something 
similar in LocalHistory. I am currently experimenting and trying to see what I 
can just refuse from elsewhere. I am poking around in Git and Diff modules.

Kind Regards,

MArk


On 22 Aug 2018, at 01:01, Tim Boudreau 
mailto:niftin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Describe more how git fits into the picture please.

If you're just looking for a UI to show sets of files that were edited, and
maybe group diff, that doesn't seem like it would need git.

Or you want to somehow make local history contiguous with git history? (My
intuition says this would be a rabbit hole not worth going down)

My general guess is that the local history module doesn't depend on the git
module, so it's classes can't be referenced from there.

You might be able to add a dependency, but let's talk through what you're
trying to do - you want to share some implementation with it, or you really
need local history to interoperate with git?

-Tim




Re: JDK requirements for building NB

2018-08-22 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 1:47 AM, Scott Palmer  wrote:

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>
>
> There may also be a desire to use newer JDK features for the development
> of NetBeans itself, or NetBeans modules.  What if some new JDK tooling
> (e.g. the upcoming jpackager that hopefully makes it into JDK 12) requires
> that the corresponding NetBeans module that supports it can compile against
> that version of the JDK?
>


That's my point: what you describe above will never happen AFAIK. For
example, features are right now in Apache NetBeans for working with Jigsaw,
JShell, and JLink, which are all part of JDK 9. However, none of the
NetBeans modules that provide support to NetBeans IDE for these features
are required to compile against JDK 9, in fact, building on JDK 8 is
required. The modules providing support for these JDK features do not
themselves need to be built on the JDK that provides them.

So, I'd rather see a concrete rather than a hypothetical case (i.e., "What
if some bla bla bla") of why NetBeans itself would need to be built on a
JDK other than JDK 8.

Gj



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Re: Advice on hacking NetBeans IDE

2018-08-22 Thread mark stephens
Tim,

Thanks for the reply.

I do not like the fact that localHistory is limited to a single file. I would 
like it to apply to any selection.

Git already does this with a Diff feature so I am trying to implement something 
similar in LocalHistory. I am currently experimenting and trying to see what I 
can just refuse from elsewhere. I am poking around in Git and Diff modules.

Kind Regards,

MArk


On 22 Aug 2018, at 01:01, Tim Boudreau 
mailto:niftin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Describe more how git fits into the picture please.

If you're just looking for a UI to show sets of files that were edited, and
maybe group diff, that doesn't seem like it would need git.

Or you want to somehow make local history contiguous with git history? (My
intuition says this would be a rabbit hole not worth going down)

My general guess is that the local history module doesn't depend on the git
module, so it's classes can't be referenced from there.

You might be able to add a dependency, but let's talk through what you're
trying to do - you want to share some implementation with it, or you really
need local history to interoperate with git?

-Tim



Re: "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month"

2018-08-22 Thread Alexius DIAKOGIANNIS
Great Idea

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On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 01:32, Josh Juneau  wrote:

> Great idea!
>
>
> Josh Juneau
> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
>
>
> > On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:26 AM, Geertjan Wielenga
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In the virtual meetup that we completed a few minutes ago (I'm working on
> > uploading the recording right now, will send it around when done), we
> > suddenly ended up talking about some kind of periodic recognition for
> those
> > who have really contributed significantly over a particular period.
> >
> > I think that could be really nice, e.g., most recently in the 2nd
> donation
> > relicensing process, Thilina, Junichi, Matthias, Gilberto, amongst
> others,
> > have been doing amazing work, essential for the next release:
> >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/2nd+Donation%3A+List+of+Modules+to+Review
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pulls
> >
> > So, what do we think about this idea? (Could also be nice for people's
> > resume to have something like "Apache NetBeans Developer of the Month,
> > August 2018", or something like that.)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gj
>