Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-27 Thread Tomek CEDRO
stems (compared > with the ones that inspired them). > > Best regards > Alin > > > Från: Tomek CEDRO > Skickat: den 27 oktober 2025 10:38 > Till: [email protected] > Ämne: Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init &

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2025-10-27 Thread [email protected]
s Alin Från: Tomek CEDRO Skickat: den 27 oktober 2025 10:38 Till: [email protected] Ämne: Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init Okay so looks like there are two name propositions for this new application: 1. Android System Init -> apps/android/init -> android_init (o

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-27 Thread Tomek CEDRO
Okay so looks like there are two name propositions for this new application: 1. Android System Init -> apps/android/init -> android_init (or just ainit). 2. NXInit -> apps/system/nxinit -> nxinit. If the discussion with ideas is concluded lets just VOTE on the mailing list so the community decides

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-24 Thread Sebastien Lorquet
Hello, I agree. nxinit or similar is fine for me. Sebastien On 10/24/25 10:08, Michal Lenc wrote: Hello everyone, With reference to Jehudi’s suggestion, I propose naming this new component "NuttX Init" (abbreviated as "NxInit", with the path: apps/system/nxinit). This naming follows the styl

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-24 Thread Michal Lenc
Hello everyone, With reference to Jehudi’s suggestion, I propose naming this new component "NuttX Init" (abbreviated as "NxInit", with the path: apps/system/nxinit). This naming follows the style of existing components, such as nxplayer and nxcamera. jumping a bit late to the discussion, but I

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-23 Thread 王健宇
t I suggest incorporating "NuttX" rather than "Android" into the name to accurately reflect its affiliation and nature. Thank you again for your valuable input. Jianyu Wang 发件人: 王健宇 发送时间: 2025年10月24日 12:15 收件人: [email protected] 主题: Re: 答复: [

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-23 Thread 王健宇
发件人: Sebastien Lorquet 发送时间: 2025年10月23日 18:53 收件人: [email protected] 主题: Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init [外部邮件] 此邮件来源于小米公司外部,请谨慎处理。若对邮件安全性存疑,请将邮件转发给[email protected]进行反馈 Hello again Documentation is always a good start, it could have

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-23 Thread Sebastien Lorquet
u have more comprehensive considerations, options like apps/android/init and CONFIG_ANDROID_INIT are also acceptable to me. Best regards, Jianyu Wang 发件人: Tomek CEDRO 发送时间: 2025年10月22日 11:37:31 收件人: [email protected] 主题: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-23 Thread Sebastien Lorquet
NIT are also acceptable to me. Best regards, Jianyu Wang 发件人: Tomek CEDRO 发送时间: 2025年10月22日 11:37:31 收件人: [email protected] 主题: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init [外部邮件] 此邮件来源于小米公司外部,请谨慎处理。若对邮件安全性存疑,请将邮件转发给[email protected]进行反馈 Okay Jianyu Wang, aut

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread Gregory Nutt
in the file system (per CONFIG_INIT_FILE mounted at CONFIG_INIT_MOUNT_TARGET). From: Tomek CEDRO Sent: Monday, October 20, 2025 4:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: NuttX and Android System Init Hello world :-) There is a very interesting and useful PR by

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread Tomek CEDRO
On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 12:26 PM 王健宇 wrote: > Hi, > > If it's just inspired from android but is an original development, what > > would prevent the use of the "NuttX Init system"? > > The main point discussed here is that Tomek has suggested using the name > "Android System Init". If you web sear

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread 王健宇
ebastien Lorquet 发送时间: 2025年10月22日 18:49 收件人: [email protected] 主题: Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init [外部邮件] 此邮件来源于小米公司外部,请谨慎处理。若对邮件安全性存疑,请将邮件转发给[email protected]进行反馈 Thanks, that was useful to understand context. I would avoid strong associations that would imply full co

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread Sebastien Lorquet
n Lorquet 发送时间: 2025年10月22日 17:10:02 收件人:[email protected] 主题: Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init [外部邮件] 此邮件来源于小米公司外部,请谨慎处理。若对邮件安全性存疑,请将邮件转发给[email protected]进行反馈 Hello, I have well noted that this is fully optional applicative code. I'll have a look at this when

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread 王健宇
get started with). This allows them to quickly engage in development and maintenance work, reducing the learning costs. Best regards, Jianyu Wang 发件人: Sebastien Lorquet 发送时间: 2025年10月22日 17:10:02 收件人: [email protected] 主题: Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Andro

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread Sebastien Lorquet
eminder. Best regards, Jianyu Wang 发件人: Sebastien Lorquet 发送时间: 2025年10月22日 16:01:45 收件人: [email protected]; 王健宇 主题: Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init [外部邮件] 此邮件来源于小米公司外部,请谨慎处理。若对邮件安全性存疑,请将邮件转发给[email protected]进行反馈 Hello Here are some general remarks th

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread 王健宇
发送时间: 2025年10月22日 16:01:45 收件人: [email protected]; 王健宇 主题: Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init [外部邮件] 此邮件来源于小米公司外部,请谨慎处理。若对邮件安全性存疑,请将邮件转发给[email protected]进行反馈 Hello Here are some general remarks that may or may not apply ( I did not check enough), please do not take them

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread Laczen JMS
it. During the development process, I studied the > > source code of the excellent Android Init, but this module is more > > streamlined and compatible with most syntax of the Android Init Language. > > > > Personally, from a functional perspective, I tend to use apps/system/init >

Re: 答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-22 Thread Sebastien Lorquet
NIT are also acceptable to me. Best regards, Jianyu Wang 发件人: Tomek CEDRO 发送时间: 2025年10月22日 11:37:31 收件人: [email protected] 主题: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init [外部邮件] 此邮件来源于小米公司外部,请谨慎处理。若对邮件安全性存疑,请将邮件转发给[email protected]进行反馈 Okay Jianyu Wang, aut

答复: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-21 Thread 王健宇
options like apps/android/init and CONFIG_ANDROID_INIT are also acceptable to me. Best regards, Jianyu Wang 发件人: Tomek CEDRO 发送时间: 2025年10月22日 11:37:31 收件人: [email protected] 主题: [External Mail]Re: NuttX and Android System Init [外部邮件] 此邮件来源于小米公司外部,请

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-21 Thread Tomek CEDRO
Okay Jianyu Wang, author of the Android System Init in NuttX code, joined the dev@ mailing list, welcome, below is the discussion history as read from the bottom up direction :-) Tomek On Tue, Oct 21, 2025 at 11:18 PM Tomek CEDRO wrote: > > Okay I have provided feedback from the dev@ list to the

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-21 Thread Tomek CEDRO
Okay I have provided feedback from the dev@ list to the gh prs and here comes the reply ;-) The main advantages of this Android System Init on NuttX: * it is custom trimmed down code implementing android system init compatible functionality. * it can run as standalone app that replaces nsh. * it p

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-21 Thread Luchian Mihai
Hi Tomek, I am already more present in the project overall. I usually leave comments rather than start reviews (regarding PRs). There are already comments on Pull Request for the documentation. This subject that I've raised was more suited for the mailing list. It reaches more of the community ov

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-21 Thread Sebastien Lorquet
Who could have guessed, eh? Sebastien On 10/20/25 18:06, Tomek CEDRO wrote: well. :-( On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 3:02 PM Alan C. Assis wrote: +1 It is better to use the right naming. Fitbit implemented support for System V on NuttX and promised to donate it, but after Google acquired them, n

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread Tomek CEDRO
Yeah, it is good to have a choice, maybe someone will find this solution useful and better fit for some applications, but.. we can already see some confusion with all different system / init solutions, so we should clearly distinguish the naming and functional separation (system system init does no

NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread Alan C. Assis
Hi Luchian, that is what I suggested in the Documentation: before saying what Android System Init is, the documentation needs to explain what it is solving on NuttX. More important than that: starts explaining the existing solutions and when to use them. As Xiang commented in the PR, their initia

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread spudaneco
Subject: Re: NuttX and Android System Init What's the (wanted) synergy between Android and NuttX. They're both OS' and have their place. Missing something here I think?On 20/10/2025 22:29, Gregory Nutt wrote:> OpenVela already supports and is probably better place for Android s

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread Tim Hardisty
s://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Luchian Mihai Sent: Monday, October 20, 2025 3:07:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NuttX and Android System Init Hello all, This might stir the waters a bit, but I think it needs to be said. I know Alan already pointed out the ne

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread Gregory Nutt
OpenVela already supports and is probably better place for Android stuff Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> From: Luchian Mihai Sent: Monday, October 20, 2025 3:07:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NuttX and Android System Init Hel

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread Luchian Mihai
Hello all, This might stir the waters a bit, but I think it needs to be said. I know Alan already pointed out the need for docs in the PR comments, but just the documentation is not enough. I think we (the community) or the PMC should be more assertive regarding these kinds of features. Why do w

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread Tomek CEDRO
well. :-( On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 3:02 PM Alan C. Assis wrote: > > +1 > > It is better to use the right naming. > > Fitbit implemented support for System V on NuttX and promised to donate it, > but after Google acquired them, none contribution came from them. > > Google also used NuttX on ARA Pro

Re: NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread Alan C. Assis
+1 It is better to use the right naming. Fitbit implemented support for System V on NuttX and promised to donate it, but after Google acquired them, none contribution came from them. Google also used NuttX on ARA Project, but no single code line was submitted to the NuttX mainline. BR, Alan O

NuttX and Android System Init

2025-10-20 Thread Tomek CEDRO
Hello world :-) There is a very interesting and useful PR by @JianyuWang0623 that adds support for Android System Init functionality to NuttX [1][2] with working example on qemu [3]. This is alternative to SystemV Init and probably other init designs. Please help in reviewing the change :-) My on