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Le 21/04/2015 05:46, sourabh gupta (JIRA) a écrit :
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Quoting:
We are also prepared to be assertive regarding this situation. If the
project
does not move to GIT then Brainfood is willing to participate in a
consortium of
organizations that will peer with each other to share updates to the master
branch for their local OFBiz repository. Such an
Quoting:
pps: I did a comparison of ant, ivy, maven, and gradle at
http://trends.google.com/. Maven is the correct choice, gradle is too new.
Ohh. Then we could just as well wait and sit it out to see another 'winner'
rising to the top? Following the fad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fad) is
a
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6267:
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Of course it can be done. It just takes (a bit
@Nicolas: The questions you raise are vaild. And ever present. Each will
find his/her own justification for the choice made. This project is not
about that. It offers a choice, based on a shared vision.
Best regards
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Hi All
I've been looking at some of what OFBiz France has done regarding addons
for OFBiz . I think there are a lot of useful things that have been
contributed by the community in general (not only OFBiz France) that are
either sitting in forks or addons or just in Jira that haven't really
Sharing those improvements as patches attached to JIRA issues is a way
better mechanism for exposure and review than through the distributed and
competing search/find tools of today (Google et all) into all the
distributed repositories or forks.
Best regards,
Pierre.
Op dinsdag 21 april 2015
Yes, in the past many also have claimed that that Dinosaur would be extinct
in the short future...
I can relate to the other priorities and constraints. Should you be in the
position: there might be an OFBiz track again at ACEU15 in Budapest later
this year. Though I am not sure regarding the
Hi all,
I would like to share with you some non-technical but useful documents:
1) the first one is the Code of Conduct @ the ASF: it is a document that I
always keep open in my browser in order to minimize the risk of forgetting some
of its points while discussing heated topics :-)
Le 21/04/2015 02:08, Ean Schuessler a écrit :
- Original Message -
From: Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
Subject: Re: move to git.
Like Adrian and mostly for the same reasons, I don't believe we need Git.
But there is one other major reason which has already been discussed
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Fix Version/s: Upcoming Branch
I have improved a bit more, for examples, at revision: 1675061
Nice to have you back and engaged, David. My apologies if I didn't express
that earlier.
Were you at ACNA15 also?
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com
On
That's an important point indeed Pierre.
One thing we need to clarify is how Git at the ASF https://git-wip-us.apache.org/ allows to search between branches and forks, compared to svn and
patches in Jira
Of course we could add our own policy and tools
It doesn't mean I'm for using Git, it's
Hi all,
First to clarify things, OFBiz-france association goal is to promote
Apache OFBiz into french speaking audience by giving references
(information, classifications and links) to extensions (documentations,
addons, patchs or packaged solution), maybe hosting some high quality
not
I agree it is important to consider the current situation and the possible
workflows before discussing the tools.
Currently we do the following:
* trunk is where all development happens
* most of the commits to trunk are done following the Commit Then Review
workflow; sometimes, for more
Hi Jacques and all,
I think that sharing more than anything is a reason why git has an
advantage. The distributed system means that every developer is a
repository and therefore you can have endless chains of code propagation up
to a committer. Just imagine a scenario like the following
- A team
Hi All
A reminder that this is a public list and while I understand that there is a
lot of heated discussions happening here - the use of swearwords or bad
language is not acceptable.
Thanks
Sharan
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View this message in context:
Some have argumented in this and other threads that SVN is dead and Git is
the new king, and that is why the change is warranted. Here are some
insights into numbers:
http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/136079/are-there-any-statistics-that-show-the-popularity-of-git-versus-svn
.
If you
Taher,
Nothing in your reply is new or different. People have been doing that
for years with Subversion. Git did not invent local repositories.
Connecting a local Git repository to the OFBiz Subversion repository is
a problem for some, that is why we are having this discussion.
So far, two
Done
Jacques
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That wasn't what happened to me. Here are the steps I took and the outcome:
1. Git pull to update my local copy.
2. Make changes to 4 files.
3. Stash push.
4. Pull to get latest repo changes.
5. Stash pop.
6. Commit - 4 files changed.
7. Push - dozens of files changed.
!!!???
8. Check commit log
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Jacopo Cappellato commented on OFBIZ-6268:
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I am not aware of any code
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-6270:
I agree that deprecating things before they are
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Jacopo Cappellato commented on OFBIZ-6268:
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The fact that this patch didn't
Le 20/04/2015 22:27, Pierre Smits a écrit :
@Nicolas: in the end it is code change. Does your point of view reflect a
veto?
If the code change and the backward compatibility is present, no worries.
We are an enterprise automation software not just a framework. Many
companies trust in this
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Closing
Separator Error in data file tools
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-6267:
Wait cant's this part be extracted (I
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Jacopo Cappellato commented on OFBIZ-6268:
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Thank you Adrian.
What I don't like
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-6267:
Pierre,
I try to not put too much
Fascinating diagram in that link from The Economist. I had no idea IBM had such
huge market share in the past! It's good to see the industry becoming more
distributed, ie market share spread across a larger number of companies.
Thanks, nice to be engaged in the project here and there. No, I
Le 21/04/2015 02:14, Adam Heath a écrit :
On 04/20/2015 07:12 PM, Adam Heath wrote:
I used to be in the same boat; in the early days, I would blame git for losing my work.
Damn you frigging piece of software!
However, I also realized that the linux-kernel was using it to do much more
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Jacopo Cappellato edited comment on OFBIZ-6268 at 4/21/15 9:49 AM:
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-6268:
Let's back up for a second. I understand the
Quoting:
I suspect that the world is heading to git. I am just starting to get
acquanted with it and beginning to feel like a bit of a dinosaur using SVN
for our projects internally.
That should be in another thread. Nevertheless, such can be said regarding
a lot of (also unrelated)
Thanks jacques, I 'd gone the same :)
Le 21/04/2015 08:31, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
FYI: I have sent a request to remove the spammer user at
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Jacques
Le 21/04/2015 05:46, sourabh gupta (JIRA) a écrit :
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Hi all,
Now that ACNA15 has passed I have initiated the thread regarding potential
tracks/interest areas in the mailing list of apachecon-discuss@a.o. and
comdev@a.o. See here for the archives of it:
http://apachecon.markmail.org/message/7ezkr5dubt6ota4c and here
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Jacopo Cappellato commented on OFBIZ-6270:
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The proper approach you mention is
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-6268:
The start component has many dependencies on base
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Jacopo Cappellato commented on OFBIZ-6268:
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Moreover, the code that you have
On 20 Apr 2015, at 23:21, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:
Quoting:
We are also prepared to be assertive regarding this situation. If the
project
does not move to GIT then Brainfood is willing to participate in a
consortium of
organizations that will peer with each other to
Le 21/04/2015 12:02, David E. Jones a écrit :
On 20 Apr 2015, at 23:21, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com wrote:
Quoting:
We are also prepared to be assertive regarding this situation. If the
project
does not move to GIT then Brainfood is willing to participate in a
consortium of
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Christian Carlow commented on OFBIZ-6085:
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Pierre,
TimeEntry was extended to act
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6085:
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By the way, and in case you were wondering:
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Christian Carlow edited comment on OFBIZ-6085 at 4/21/15 2:58 PM:
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Jacques Le Roux commented on OFBIZ-6267:
Thanks for the effort Christian,
Comments inline.
From: David E. Jones d...@me.com
Subject: Re: move to git.
It may seem like chaos to have forks and changes spread all over the place...
but that isn't caused by the distributed source management approach, it's just
made visible and clear by the approach. Right now this
Quoting:
At Apachecon, Apache's engineering and corporate leadership advised me that
we
could move to using OFBiz to manage our issues instead of JIRA if we so
desire.
If we want to explore that path, I suggest we do that in a separate thread.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6085:
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Re: time registration functionality... We have
Le 21/04/2015 16:00, Pierre Smits a écrit :
Quoting:
At Apachecon, Apache's engineering and corporate leadership advised me that
we
could move to using OFBiz to manage our issues instead of JIRA if we so
desire.
If we want to explore that path, I suggest we do that in a separate thread.
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Christian Carlow updated OFBIZ-6085:
Attachment: (was: OFBIZ-6085.patch)
Add support for production run inventory tracking
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Christian Carlow updated OFBIZ-6085:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6085.patch
Add support for production run inventory tracking
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Christian Carlow updated OFBIZ-6267:
Attachment: OFBIZ-6267.patch
The attached patch was extracted from OFBIZ-6085.
Replace
Comments inline.
From: Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: move to git.
Quoting:
We are also prepared to be assertive regarding this situation.
SNIP
Thanks Ean for the position of *Brainfood* in this position. It comes
across as 'Do it our way, or else'. You are free to
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6085:
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Christian,
It seems you're pulling more and
Le 21/04/2015 02:26, Adam Heath a écrit :
On 04/20/2015 04:12 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Like Adrian and mostly for the same reasons, I don't believe we need Git.
But there is one other major reason which has already been discussed in the other common ASF MLs. As Taher exulted, it's
Quoting:
they basically have to be extracted into a patch file and submitted through
a Jira issue
Which is a good approach with respect to improvements of the other kind
(improvements, not bug fixes) as they than can be assessed, regarding
applicability in light of the direction of the project
Le 21/04/2015 11:08, Adrian Crum a écrit :
Taher,
Nothing in your reply is new or different. People have been doing that for
years with Subversion. Git did not invent local repositories.
Connecting a local Git repository to the OFBiz Subversion repository is a
problem for some, that is why
On Apr 21, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
Switching the main repo to Git does not add anything to the project itself.
As I said before, Subversion handles our simple needs just fine. If Jacopo
said something like, Managing our releases is impossible
Everyone is missing the point I am trying to make.
I said, ***IF*** Jacopo said something like...
As the OFBiz RM, ***IF*** Jacopo said he couldn't use Subversion to
manage the OFBiz project, then the need to switch to something else
would be obvious.
I hope that clarifies my true meaning.
That's indeed what needs to be discussed and that why I asked OFBiz-France
members opinions
Jacques
Le 21/04/2015 12:52, Pierre Smits a écrit :
Sharing those improvements as patches attached to JIRA issues is a way
better mechanism for exposure and review than through the distributed and
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Jacopo Cappellato commented on OFBIZ-6268:
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This is indeed a good point and a
As far as I can see it, this whole discussion regarding GIT vs SVN (move to
GIT), is dependent on and blocked by the perceptions of (and viewpoints on)
the (in)clarity surrounding how we (as the contributing community) deal
with code-changing contributions (CTR vs RTC/patches vs dumps).
If we
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6267:
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I am equally inviting. Equally veiled. ;-)
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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-6085:
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Re: triggered InventoryTransfer - Automatic?
On 21/04/2015 6:55 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
On Apr 21, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Jacques Le Roux jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
wrote:
Switching the main repo to Git does not add anything to the project itself. As I said
before, Subversion handles our simple needs just fine. If Jacopo said
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Christian Carlow commented on OFBIZ-6085:
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None of those components supported
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Christian Carlow commented on OFBIZ-6085:
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Pierre,
An inventory transfer
I am not sure that this should come as a surprise or a real difference
in the current state.
It is possible for anyone to fork the project.
With git it could be easier to contribute back changes from this fork.
Of course, the code bases could diverge to a point where sharing updates
becomes too
On 04/21/2015 04:06 PM, Nicolas Malin wrote:
Le 21/04/2015 22:37, Adam Heath a écrit :
My commit is not breaking anything. Why remove something that is
harmless?
Let's be positive and forward enabling; if a commit is reverted, then
that reversion has not stopped any discussion, and now the
Le 21/04/2015 17:53, Hans Bakker a écrit :
It also shows that programmers like to change the world of the end-users, however forget to improve themselves the way they work
Are you insinuating that I'm fossilised and against changes in order to improve
the way I work? If so you are wrong!
Le 21/04/2015 22:37, Adam Heath a écrit :
My commit is not breaking anything. Why remove something that is
harmless?
Let's be positive and forward enabling; if a commit is reverted, then
that reversion has not stopped any discussion, and now the original
committer will have to do more work
On 04/21/2015 04:30 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Le 21/04/2015 23:17, Adam Heath a écrit :
On 04/21/2015 04:06 PM, Nicolas Malin wrote:
Le 21/04/2015 22:37, Adam Heath a écrit :
My commit is not breaking anything. Why remove something that is
harmless?
Let's be positive and forward
On 04/21/2015 12:29 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
On Apr 21, 2015, at 12:33 AM, Adam Heath doo...@brainfood.com wrote:
(picking a random email to respond to; I haven't read anything of this thread
all weekend, I will need to spend some time doing so)
Fyi, I have framework/start, base, and
Step forward to use Maven !
Easy to use. Difficult to learn.
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Le 21/04/2015 23:17, Adam Heath a écrit :
On 04/21/2015 04:06 PM, Nicolas Malin wrote:
Le 21/04/2015 22:37, Adam Heath a écrit :
My commit is not breaking anything. Why remove something that is harmless?
Let's be positive and forward enabling; if a commit is reverted, then that reversion
On 04/21/2015 04:07 PM, Heidi Dehaes wrote:
Step forward to use Maven !
Easy to use. Difficult to learn.
If you had asked me a week ago, at the start of ApacheCon, whether I
thought a move to maven was possible, I would have gone postal; No way,
hell no, not going to happen.
By the end of
On 04/21/2015 08:09 AM, Gil portenseigne wrote:
In every case, contribution will have to be given within Jira to get
into the project.
This is not the case even today. I see changes in the svn log that have
no jira issue.
The discussion whether or not to switch is still ongoing, is still
undecided. You have made your choice. That is your prerogative. No one
within this community can deny you that. But you're forcing... Your
preference without consensus within/of the Community.
You're actions don't match the
The nice thing about Maven is that very few people actually have to
learn it.
Once you have the pom set up and the projects structured, the
maintenance is very simple and you don't really need to know Maven to do
most common operations (update dependency version - change a property in
the pom,
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Supachai Chaima-ngua updated OFBIZ-6257:
Description:
The StreamingNotSupportedException class does not found in Apache
Nuwan Koggalahewa created OFBIZ-6272:
Summary: We want to use ofbiz for inventory management. Suppliers
are the owners of the inventoy item. We want to charge inventory cost per kilo
and per day. Is it possible to do with existing features
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Adam Heath commented on OFBIZ-6271:
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Well, I just committed a bunch to this branch.
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Adam Heath commented on OFBIZ-6270:
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When an external developer compiles their code,
As another point, you keep responding with attacks, instead of
discussing actual datapoints. I'm mentioning features, additions,
whatever, but I see nothing constructive from your direction.
Let's move back to a technical discussion, and can we have a stop of
this vitriol?
On 04/21/2015
Le 21/04/2015 09:48, Nicolas Malin a écrit :
Le 20/04/2015 22:27, Pierre Smits a écrit :
@Nicolas: in the end it is code change. Does your point of view reflect a
veto?
If the code change and the backward compatibility is present, no worries.
We are an enterprise automation software not just a
Le 21/04/2015 10:19, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
Hi Jacques and all,
I think that sharing more than anything is a reason why git has an
advantage. The distributed system means that every developer is a
repository and therefore you can have endless chains of code propagation up
to a committer.
Thanks for clarification Adrian,
I did not think about the Release Manager role
Jacques
Le 21/04/2015 12:59, Adrian Crum a écrit :
Everyone is missing the point I am trying to make.
I said, ***IF*** Jacopo said something like...
As the OFBiz RM, ***IF*** Jacopo said he couldn't use
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Adrian Crum commented on OFBIZ-6268:
Btw, in the current trunk, if I disable the
On Apr 21, 2015, at 12:59 PM, Adrian Crum adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com
wrote:
Everyone is missing the point I am trying to make.
I said, ***IF*** Jacopo said something like...
As the OFBiz RM, ***IF*** Jacopo said he couldn't use Subversion to manage
the OFBiz project, then the
@Adrian: I didn't miss your point! Opted not to respond, as I saw nothing
wrong with/in the assertion/point you posted.
Best regards,
Pierre Smits
*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
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Adam,
Shall we let other committers, who favour the ANT+IVY approach also move
forward and implement their stuff as well as it will surely not break
anything as well?
Shall we also let other committers, who favour the Groovy/Gradle approach
also move forward and implement their solutions as well
On 04/21/2015 04:27 PM, Pierre Smits wrote:
The discussion whether or not to switch is still ongoing, is still
undecided. You have made your choice. That is your prerogative. No one
within this community can deny you that. But you're forcing... Your
preference without consensus within/of the
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Christian Carlow commented on OFBIZ-6267:
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OFBIZ-6266 was incorporated in this
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Christian Carlow edited comment on OFBIZ-6085 at 4/21/15 4:20 PM:
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