Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-16 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi all, Currently there are several threads regarding the overhaul of the framework, the mini-lang, and other structures. But how will all these affect the performance? I haven't seen anything on that subject. Regards, Pierre Op 16 maart 2012 02:15 schreef David E Jones d...@me.com het

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-16 Thread Adrian Crum
The mini-lang overhaul only effects the grammar, not the performance. No one can comment on the framework performance until a decision is made about the direction it will take. -Adrian On 3/16/2012 8:09 AM, Pierre Smits wrote: Hi all, Currently there are several threads regarding the

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Thank you David, please see inline: On Mar 15, 2012, at 6:08 AM, David E Jones wrote: I think the Moqui Framework is already to a point where migration of OFBiz business-level artifacts could begin immediately. Of course I would be happy to see (and help with) an effort to create a

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread Adrian Crum
On 3/15/2012 7:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Not only this; well, yes it is simply this at the technical level but it is much much more in the end result and approach: in fact in my poc I have laid out some simple but very effective best practices for programming services and events: the

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Mar 15, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Adrian Crum wrote: On 3/15/2012 7:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Not only this; well, yes it is simply this at the technical level but it is much much more in the end result and approach: in fact in my poc I have laid out some simple but very effective best

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Mar 15, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Adrian, it was a joke not real criticism on you. And to be very clear: I appreciate all the work you did to add support to JSR-223 Jacopo

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread Adrian Crum
On 3/15/2012 9:20 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: On Mar 15, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Adrian, it was a joke not real criticism on you. And to be very clear: I appreciate all the work you did to add support to JSR-223 We're cool. ;-) -Adrian

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
David, a side note (but important): is Moqui using (or there are plans to use) jars or external tools whose license would prevent us from bundling Moqui in an OFBiz release under the ASL 2.0? This would be a show stopper... Jacopo On Mar 15, 2012, at 6:08 AM, David E Jones wrote: This might

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread David E Jones
The only library that is not friendly right now is the Redstone XMLRPC library, which is LGPL licensed. That could be replaced by the Apache XML-RPC project. The only reasons I used Redstone are that it is much smaller (library bloat is a real problem), and it is a bit easier to use. There are a

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread David E Jones
NOTE: replying to this in multiple messages for better digestibility. :) Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Thank you David, please see inline: On Mar 15, 2012, at 6:08 AM, David E Jones wrote: I think the Moqui Framework is already to a point where migration of OFBiz business-level artifacts

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread David E Jones
Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Doing a migration like this would bring up other issues... including whether or not to clean up the data model and services while at it, especially rewriting messier parts of OFBiz like the ShoppingCart* objects and order processing stuff in general. It will be

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-15 Thread David E Jones
Jacopo Cappellato wrote: 3. running in a single webapp: while this isn't necessary with Moqui, the Moqui Screens are a combination of the controller.xml entries for the particular screen and the OFBiz Screen Widget, and are hierarchical instead of being flat like the request-map URIs in

Re: Framework refactor (Moqui-/Mantle-specific)

2012-03-14 Thread David E Jones
I think the Moqui Framework is already to a point where migration of OFBiz business-level artifacts could begin immediately. Doing a migration like this would bring up other issues... including whether or not to clean up the data model and services while at it, especially rewriting messier parts