Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-10 Thread Mansour Al Akeel
Scott made a good point. If there is duplicated code, and they don't add much useful functionality, then they can move out, provided this will not break anything. +1 On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Scott Gray scott.g...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote: I have no problem with moving them out. Pierre,

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-10 Thread Jacques Le Roux
But as Pierre outlined the permissions concern is important. Since Scott suggests to improve it in the Accounting component: +1 Jacques From: Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alak...@gmail.com Scott made a good point. If there is duplicated code, and they don't add much useful functionality, then they

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-10 Thread Pierre Smits
I agree that some functions should be somewhere else than in those to webapps. For instance: 1. Everything to do with the lifecycle of Customer and Agent Agreements should be in CRM 2. Everything to do with the lifecycle of Supplier Agreements should be in SCM But visibility (read

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-09 Thread Anil Patel
Hi, I agree that toolset for supporting AR and AP processes are important for a business. Like Jacopo mentioned, AR and AP webapplications don't have any that does not already exists in Accounting webapplication. AR and AP webapplications are special purpose apps that try bring together

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-09 Thread Pierre Smits
Hi Anil, Are you proposing and committing yourself to bring all non-overlapping functions in AP and AR to the core of the accounting application whilst maintaining the added value these to sub components offer regarding user friendliness and separation of concerns BEFORE moving AP and AR out to

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-09 Thread Anil Patel
Pierre, Its possible that my previous email was not clear enough. Also its possible that you have not used Ofbiz Accounting, AR and AP applications. Few things that we need to keep in mind before deciding either way, There is nothing in AR and AP application that does not exists in Ofbiz

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-09 Thread Scott Gray
I have no problem with moving them out. Pierre, there is actually very little functionality available to either of those apps and nothing that isn't already available in the main accounting app. They do however carry the burden of two extra webapps and a LOT of duplicated code. There is

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-08 Thread Pierre Smits
It is very normal in FICO solutions to have as much as possible a separation of concern implemented. This is applicable with regards to inbound and outbound money flows (AR vs AP), and in and outbound flow of goods (and the valueation thereof in FICO). For that (larger) companies ensure that

Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Anil Patel
Hi, Like lot of other stuff, I think AR and AP applications should be moved out of Ofbiz Accounting component. As such they are special purpose application, but again not core to Ofbiz application framework. I recommend we should relocate AR and AP webapplications out of Ofbiz Accounting to

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
+1 Jacques Anil Patel wrote: Hi, Like lot of other stuff, I think AR and AP applications should be moved out of Ofbiz Accounting component. As such they are special purpose application, but again not core to Ofbiz application framework. I recommend we should relocate AR and AP

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Pierre Smits
- 1 Accounts payable (AP) and accounts receivable (AP) are together with the ability to process accounting transactions the core ingredients of a good FICO solution. Without both any accountant will state that your accounting solution is worthless. Without both core accounting components you (as

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread David E Jones
When I first saw the subject I was thinking this as well. I always wondered why those were created as separate applications, perhaps for permission reasons I suppose. In a way they make more sense as part of the accounting webapp instead of in separate ones. -David Pierre Smits wrote: - 1

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Rajbir Saini
I agree with David. It makes more sense to make them part of the Accounting application instead of separate application. Moving them to extra is not good idea as they are integral part of Accounting/Financial as mentioned by Pierre. Thanks, Raj On Sunday 08 April 2012 04:53 AM, David E

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Jacques Le Roux
This makes sense indeed, so -1 for me finally Jacques From: Rajbir Saini rajbsa...@yahoo.com I agree with David. It makes more sense to make them part of the Accounting application instead of separate application. Moving them to extra is not good idea as they are integral part of

Re: Move AR and AP web applications our of Accounting into Extras

2012-04-07 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
But for what I understand the AR and AP applications contain alternative screens to the ones in the main accounting application. They are an effort to implement more focused/specific applications versus the more generic accounting application. So, the main accounting application should already