Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Rob, Hi all, 2013/3/26 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. I started looking into the history of the Base component, who is using it now (looked into Forums, users

Re: Questions about sidebar feature

2013-03-27 Thread Yi Xuan Liu
Andre, thanks for your explanation. I'll create test cases according to these files On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: On 25.03.2013 08:35, Yi Xuan Liu wrote: hi, all: I've noticed that a new sidebar build is available on sidebar wiki. I've tried to

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Andrew, Hi all, 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for small data that is relational. For larger data sets, the embedded DB is insufficient. Indeed, end users and a lot of little structures could take

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-27 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/27/13 2:48 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:03:09AM +0100, Andre Fischer wrote: IMO it was a non-sense from the beginning to develop these as extensions (at least the presentation minimizer and the presenter screen, that have no external dependencies). I

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:27 AM, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rob, Hi all, 2013/3/26 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Well no doubt this may start a rather heated discussion. I started looking into the

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

2013-03-27 Thread Malte Timmermann
On 24.03.2013 18:29, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: No doubt many here have already noted this: https://www.infoworld.com/d/cloud-computing/open-xchange-launch-open-source-browser-based-office-suite-214882 It's interesting. One

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-27 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you pointed out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly your problem now? I don't have any problem at all. I don't think that it will help us if we react this

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-27 Thread janI
On 27 March 2013 15:23, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you pointed out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly your problem now? I don't have

add a feature to the document processor

2013-03-27 Thread Don Chase
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Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

2013-03-27 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi Malte! It's a pleasure to see you here… On 13-03-27, at 09:51 , Malte Timmermann malte_timmerm...@gmx.com wrote: On 24.03.2013 18:29, Rob Weir wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: No doubt many here have already noted this:

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-27 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/27/13 3:23 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you pointed out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly your problem now? I don't have any problem at all. I

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

2013-03-27 Thread Malte Timmermann
Hi Louis, On 24.03.2013 00:38, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 13-03-23, at 19:11 , Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc., are Creative Commons attribution-share-alike-noncommercial. None of that is Apache

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

2013-03-27 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 13-03-27, at 11:15 , Malte Timmermann malte_timmerm...@gmx.com wrote: Hi Louis, On 24.03.2013 00:38, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 13-03-23, at 19:11 , Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc., are

Re: Open-Xchange to launch open-source, browser-based office suite

2013-03-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Malte Timmermann malte_timmerm...@gmx.com wrote: Hi Louis, On 24.03.2013 00:38, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 13-03-23, at 19:11 , Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: The server is GPL and the JavaScripts that run in clients, Outlook, etc.,

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-27 Thread Andre Fischer
On 27.03.2013 15:23, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Please don't turn this into a circus like the one with the 0^0. In this we agree :-) While I still stand by my arguments, I see now that I should have chosen different words. I have the highest respect for you and your work and did not

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 26/03/13 00:39, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit : Hi all, This is hard too guess. The majority of AOO users are Windows users, so you can asume that the average user that tries Base with a MS Office background, is looking for something like MS Access. I guess this was what drove Sun to

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 26/03/13 14:52, Rob Weir a écrit : Hi Rob, Some other interesting facts, most of which we're already familiar with: 1) Microsoft doesn't include Access in their base Office packages. So on the one hand this means that most Office users don't use a database, or they do lightweight

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.comwrote: Hi Andrew, Hi all, 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB for small data that is relational. For larger data sets, the embedded DB

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread janI
On 27 March 2013 17:12, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew, Hi all, 2013/3/27 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org I like an embedded DB for those times that I desire a small DB

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-27 Thread Malte Timmermann
Didn't read all the replies, but anyway: +1. Also good for startup-performance, if I remember correctly... On 22.03.2013 17:15, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never) and makes more problems than it helps. I thought that AOO 4.0

Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1

2013-03-27 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote: On demand I can provide test builds if there are people interested to help with testing. Juergen Great work. May I suggest you upload such test builds to some cloud drive (GDrive, dropbox, etc) and share the url to

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Max Merbald
Hello there, while the base module of AOO is not used all that often, it's the only free database software. If, for example, you want one from Microsoft you need to buy the very much overpriced MS Office Professional. Well, I've used Base already and I find it handy for my personal needs. I'm

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Donald Whytock
Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's written in Java, it still works in a client/server model and is therefore probably launchable. Since it's in the family and all, perhaps it can be bundled with

Update source code

2013-03-27 Thread jorge ivan poot diaz
Hello I want to update the source code. I'm working on ubuntu: Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Release:12.04 Codename:precise How I can do this? Help me. Regards

Fwd: Now Accepting Applications for Mentoring Organizations for GSoC 2013

2013-03-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Last 48 hours to deadline, I suggest to verify with Apache that everything has been comited and avoid dropping the ball. -- Forwarded message -- From: Carol Smith car...@google.com Date: Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:33 PM Subject: Re: Now Accepting Applications for Mentoring

Re: Introduction

2013-03-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Welcome there are many needs to update the guides for OpenOffice 4.0 and would be interested to have your writing skills. If you look into the documentation wiki page you will see many guides that are somewhat outdated as theiy point back to 3.3 version. The task is create a user guide for the

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Fred Ollinger
What was the original problem that we are trying to solve? From what I can gather we have no idea how many people use Base. There's speculation that it's small, but unless it's measured, what does this mean? Also, there are some people who think that Base works for them and that it's critical for

How to get mimetype at first position in the zip-container?

2013-03-27 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, when I open a .odp file with 7z, I can edit the content.xml with an editor. The file is then updated inside the zip-container. But 7z orders the files and folders alphabetically and therefore the file mimetype is no longer at first position. I have already tried to add the files and

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 27.03.2013 21:57, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's written in Java, it still works in a

Re: How to get mimetype at first position in the zip-container?

2013-03-27 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi all, OK, I found a solution: I first generate a zip-container with the command line version of 7z, which contains only the file mimetype. The command line version of 7z can do this without compressing the file. And in the second step I use Windows7 itself and simple drag the files and

Re: Introduction

2013-03-27 Thread Erik Schwab
Thanks for the welcome! I've joined the doc list and I'll check out the wiki page. On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: Welcome there are many needs to update the guides for OpenOffice 4.0 and would be interested to have your writing skills. If you look

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Rony G. Flatscher rony.flatsc...@wu.ac.atwrote: On 27.03.2013 21:57, Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation.

Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

2013-03-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I am able to access it. On 3/27/13, janI j...@apache.org wrote: hi. I just got an alert that wiki is down (1 night in spain), and it seems to have a severe problem, prohibiting me from doing sudo and restoring it. The people at infra-root who have backdoor access is not available on irc at

Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

2013-03-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
ah spoke too soon, it was the cache talking On 3/27/13, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: I am able to access it. On 3/27/13, janI j...@apache.org wrote: hi. I just got an alert that wiki is down (1 night in spain), and it seems to have a severe problem, prohibiting me from doing

Re: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Kay Schenk wrote: On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: Just tossing this out...It seems Apache Derby is the one SQL-based DBMS in the Foundation. It's actively maintained, and, while it's written in Java, it still works in a client/server model and is

RE: questions about Base---do we need an embedded DB?

2013-03-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I share Regina's concern for the use in teaching and for casual database purposes. I'm not so sure how much SQL is a determining factor. I also sympathize with not wanting a required Java dependency, especially for a built-in component of the suite. However, the cooperation offered by the

Re: add a feature to the document processor

2013-03-27 Thread chengjh
Hi Don, What's feature that you want to dev? Could you please provide more detail description about your feature?Any related issue opened in https://issues.apache.org/ooo/? On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Don Chase d...@donchaseco.com wrote: may I? Thanks... Don -- Don Chase CEO

Re: wiki.openoffice.org is down, and pam is not runing so sudo is not possible.

2013-03-27 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/28/13 3:37 AM, janI wrote: Online again. thanks for taking care of it somehow fs decided to go r/o, which caused mysql and pam to stop, requiring the knife method for reboot. After reboot part of the config was lost (raw devices), which I created again. Infra politely reminded me,