Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

2016-12-06 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 12/6/2016 1:01 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> Hi Keith,
> 
> I would like to stick with petko.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter
> 
> 

Peter;

Account petco has been created on the MWiki. A temporary password has
been sent to your e-mail address and you should change it at your first
login.

Regards
Keith

> On 06.12.2016 01:06, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>> On 12/5/2016 6:22 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Ohh i am sorry. Ithought the Mediawiki is Cwiki. And did not give it a
>>> urther thought.
>>>
>>> I want to log in here:
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin=submitlogin=login=Special:UserLogin/signup
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05.12.2016 23:32, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
 On 12/5/2016 4:24 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> Hello Keith,
>
>
> thanks for looking into this.
>
> I use petko for login. The Wikimedia says that the user does not
> exist.
>
> Error Message of the site:
>
> *Fehler bei der Anmeldung*
> Der Benutzername „petko“ ist nicht vorhanden. Bitte überprüfe die
> Schreibweise.
>
>
> I use my confluence Password.
>
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 05.12.2016 22:06, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>> On 12/5/2016 3:52 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Hello ,
>>>
>>> Whitelisting for the CWiki is gone.
>>>
>>> Can you whitelist me again please.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25.10.2016 14:49, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
 Peter Kovacs wrote:
> I am sorry. I got it wrong. :(
> I should have known better.
> My confluence name is:
>
> username:*petko*
>
> real name:*Peter Kovacs*
>
 Account petco white-listed on cwiki

 Regards
 Keith

>> Peter;
>> Have you created the account pkovacs on the cwiki yet? if not
>> please do
>> so at the following link.
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
>> Once you have reply here that it is done and I will white-list
>> it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
> All the best
> Peter
>> Peter;
>>
>> I just checked the permissions for you (username petko)  and they are
>> still there. Are you sure you are using the correct username? I
>> remember
>> there was some confusion around that with the original white-listing
>> request.
>>
>> If there is still a problem with the petko user name please reply
>> back
>> and I will look further.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
 Peter;

 As Andrea noted you appear to be mixing the two (2) wiki's here. Cwiki
 is the Confluence Wiki and your username there is petko and the
 permissions seem to be intact. Mwiki is our mediawiki and is completely
 seperate from the the Cwiki. Can you give me the url of the wiki you
 are
 trying to log into or what it is you are trying to edit we can see from
 there which it is and discover the best way forward.

 Regards
 Keith



>> Peter;
>>
>> No problem; the 2 wiki scenarilo confuses many people including me and I
>> am an admin on both! The easiest thing at this point is to have me
>> create and account on mwiki for you. Just let me know the Username that
>> you want to use and I will create it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>




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Re: Facebook page

2016-12-06 Thread Matthias Seidel
That Facebook group is linked on our homepage:

http://www.openoffice.org/social/index.html

BTW: Is someone in charge of the Twitter account?
The Twitter widget on that page throws an error:

"The Twitter API v1.0 is deprecated, and this widget has ceased
functioning.","You can replace it with a new, upgraded widget from
","For more information
on alternative Twitter tools, see
"

Any ideas about identi.ca?!

regards, Matthias


Am 06.12.2016 um 02:22 schrieb John D'Orazio:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 6:54 PM, Raphael Bircher 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>>
>> Am 11/29/2016 um 4:24 PM schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> If we maintain the google+ page shouldn't we also maintain the apache open
>>> office page?
>>>
>>> It exists but is not claimed by apache.
>>>
>> Sure, it is! https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/ This one is under Control
>> of Apache OpenOffice. Or better it was... Moast of the admin are inactive
>> now. This was also the reason why I don't kicked myself out the admin list.
>> As I left the PMC i forgot to do this. Later I saw, that maybe not so many
>> people monitoring this site and I desided to keep an eye on it. I'm sorry,
>> that I'm not informated the PMC about it.
>> But your right, it would be good to have some other (active) admins on
>> board. There are often questions about OpenOffice on this site.
>>
>> I would never have seen this Facebook page if I weren't reading the posts
> on this thread. If you do a search on facebook for pages about "Apache
> OpenOffice", this page is not immediately visible, at least I could only
> see a link to a generic page automatically generated by wikipedia. After
> clicking the link in this thread I found this mysterious "official" page
> which I was then able to "like".
>
> It is also confusing that when searching for "Apache OpenOffice" one of the
> main results is a user group by the name "Apache OpenOffice" which claims
> to be the "official page" for Apache OpenOffice:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/338330086179568/
> "This is the official Facebook page for the Apache OpenOffice project. Here
> you can find information about the OpenOffice development status and other
> important information." I don't think a "group" should be called an
> "official page", a group is usually a place for discussion among users
> where anyone can write pretty much anything. A facebook group doesn't
> usually officialy represent anything.
>
>
> Regards, Raphael
>>
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>
> -- John R. D'Orazio
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Re: Is there still someone who build for Solaris/Openindiana

2016-12-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 12/6/2016 1:55 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi all

I'm going to the configure script and I recognize that there are still
parts for solaris. As far as I know, the last version who build with
solaris was the AOO 3.4.x. My question is, if we should ride off the
Solaris stuff or we should keep it. Well it won't hurt to keep it, but
it makes also no sense to keep a platform no one build.


I did make some moves towards Solaris building, but I feel at this time 
that learning AOO internals and working on debug is a better use of my 
AOO time.


I tend to assume that anything that is not being actively maintained and 
tested does not work. We need to simplify the build process. I suggest 
getting rid of the Solaris stuff, as a separate commit with "Solaris" in 
the log message. That way, if anyone decides to pick it up they will be 
able to find the last state easily.



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Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

2016-12-06 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 12/6/2016 1:32 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> great thanks a lot for your effort. :-)
> 
> 

My pleasure Peter.

> On 06.12.2016 17:02, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>> On 12/6/2016 1:01 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> I would like to stick with petko.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>> Peter;
>>
>> Account petco has been created on the MWiki. A temporary password has
>> been sent to your e-mail address and you should change it at your first
>> login.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>> On 06.12.2016 01:06, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
 On 12/5/2016 6:22 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> Ohh i am sorry. Ithought the Mediawiki is Cwiki. And did not give it a
> urther thought.
>
> I want to log in here:
>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin=submitlogin=login=Special:UserLogin/signup
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 05.12.2016 23:32, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>> On 12/5/2016 4:24 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Hello Keith,
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks for looking into this.
>>>
>>> I use petko for login. The Wikimedia says that the user does not
>>> exist.
>>>
>>> Error Message of the site:
>>>
>>> *Fehler bei der Anmeldung*
>>> Der Benutzername „petko“ ist nicht vorhanden. Bitte überprüfe die
>>> Schreibweise.
>>>
>>>
>>> I use my confluence Password.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05.12.2016 22:06, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
 On 12/5/2016 3:52 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
> Hello ,
>
> Whitelisting for the CWiki is gone.
>
> Can you whitelist me again please.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 25.10.2016 14:49, Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>> Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> I am sorry. I got it wrong. :(
>>> I should have known better.
>>> My confluence name is:
>>>
>>> username:*petko*
>>>
>>> real name:*Peter Kovacs*
>>>
>> Account petco white-listed on cwiki
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
 Peter;
 Have you created the account pkovacs on the cwiki yet? if not
 please do
 so at the following link.
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
 Once you have reply here that it is done and I will white-list
 it.

 Regards
 Keith
>>> All the best
>>> Peter
 Peter;

 I just checked the permissions for you (username petko)  and
 they are
 still there. Are you sure you are using the correct username? I
 remember
 there was some confusion around that with the original
 white-listing
 request.

 If there is still a problem with the petko user name please reply
 back
 and I will look further.

 Regards
 Keith

>> Peter;
>>
>> As Andrea noted you appear to be mixing the two (2) wiki's here.
>> Cwiki
>> is the Confluence Wiki and your username there is petko and the
>> permissions seem to be intact. Mwiki is our mediawiki and is
>> completely
>> seperate from the the Cwiki. Can you give me the url of the wiki you
>> are
>> trying to log into or what it is you are trying to edit we can see
>> from
>> there which it is and discover the best way forward.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
 Peter;

 No problem; the 2 wiki scenarilo confuses many people including me
 and I
 am an admin on both! The easiest thing at this point is to have me
 create and account on mwiki for you. Just let me know the Username that
 you want to use and I will create it.

 Regards
 Keith

>>




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Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

2016-12-06 Thread Peter Kovacs

great thanks a lot for your effort. :-)


On 06.12.2016 17:02, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

On 12/6/2016 1:01 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hi Keith,

I would like to stick with petko.

Thanks.


All the best

Peter



Peter;

Account petco has been created on the MWiki. A temporary password has
been sent to your e-mail address and you should change it at your first
login.

Regards
Keith


On 06.12.2016 01:06, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

On 12/5/2016 6:22 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Ohh i am sorry. Ithought the Mediawiki is Cwiki. And did not give it a
urther thought.

I want to log in here:

https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin=submitlogin=login=Special:UserLogin/signup






On 05.12.2016 23:32, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

On 12/5/2016 4:24 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hello Keith,


thanks for looking into this.

I use petko for login. The Wikimedia says that the user does not
exist.

Error Message of the site:

*Fehler bei der Anmeldung*
Der Benutzername „petko“ ist nicht vorhanden. Bitte überprüfe die
Schreibweise.


I use my confluence Password.


All the best

Peter


On 05.12.2016 22:06, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

On 12/5/2016 3:52 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hello ,

Whitelisting for the CWiki is gone.

Can you whitelist me again please.


Thank you.


All the best

Peter


On 25.10.2016 14:49, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

Peter Kovacs wrote:

I am sorry. I got it wrong. :(
I should have known better.
My confluence name is:

username:*petko*

real name:*Peter Kovacs*


Account petco white-listed on cwiki

Regards
Keith


Peter;
Have you created the account pkovacs on the cwiki yet? if not
please do
so at the following link.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/signup.action
Once you have reply here that it is done and I will white-list
it.

Regards
Keith

All the best
Peter

Peter;

I just checked the permissions for you (username petko)  and they are
still there. Are you sure you are using the correct username? I
remember
there was some confusion around that with the original white-listing
request.

If there is still a problem with the petko user name please reply
back
and I will look further.

Regards
Keith


Peter;

As Andrea noted you appear to be mixing the two (2) wiki's here. Cwiki
is the Confluence Wiki and your username there is petko and the
permissions seem to be intact. Mwiki is our mediawiki and is completely
seperate from the the Cwiki. Can you give me the url of the wiki you
are
trying to log into or what it is you are trying to edit we can see from
there which it is and discover the best way forward.

Regards
Keith




Peter;

No problem; the 2 wiki scenarilo confuses many people including me and I
am an admin on both! The easiest thing at this point is to have me
create and account on mwiki for you. Just let me know the Username that
you want to use and I will create it.

Regards
Keith






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Re: Is there still someone who build for Solaris/Openindiana

2016-12-06 Thread Peter Kovacs

+1

On 06.12.2016 18:31, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

On 12/6/2016 1:55 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Hi all

I'm going to the configure script and I recognize that there are still
parts for solaris. As far as I know, the last version who build with
solaris was the AOO 3.4.x. My question is, if we should ride off the
Solaris stuff or we should keep it. Well it won't hurt to keep it, but
it makes also no sense to keep a platform no one build.


I did make some moves towards Solaris building, but I feel at this 
time that learning AOO internals and working on debug is a better use 
of my AOO time.


I tend to assume that anything that is not being actively maintained 
and tested does not work. We need to simplify the build process. I 
suggest getting rid of the Solaris stuff, as a separate commit with 
"Solaris" in the log message. That way, if anyone decides to pick it 
up they will be able to find the last state easily.



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Re: Is there still someone who build for Solaris/Openindiana

2016-12-06 Thread L'oiseau de mer
since build failed in AOO 4.0, i haven't try to build it anymore...

2016-12-06 17:55 GMT+08:00 Raphael Bircher :

> Hi all
>
> I'm going to the configure script and I recognize that there are still
> parts for solaris. As far as I know, the last version who build with
> solaris was the AOO 3.4.x. My question is, if we should ride off the
> Solaris stuff or we should keep it. Well it won't hurt to keep it, but it
> makes also no sense to keep a platform no one build.
>
> Regards Raphael
>
>
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Re: [CWiki] Account Whitelisting

2016-12-06 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 12/6/2016 2:55 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote:
> Hi Andrea
> 
> 
> Am 12/6/2016 um 8:48 AM schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>> Raphael Bircher wrote:
>>> For some reasons, I have also no edit rights. I don't know how they got
>>> loost. I want them back!
>>> My User is rbircher
>>
>> Where? CWiki or MWiki? Please always give the full URL, so that we
>> know where to look!
> https://raphaelbircher.wordpress.com/2016/12/06/lange-pause-heist-viel-zu-schreiben/
> 
> 
> cwiki
> 
> Regards, Raphael
Raphael;

CWiki account rbircher has been white-listed.

Regards
Keith



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Re: Is there still someone who build for Solaris/Openindiana

2016-12-06 Thread Pedro Giffuni

FWIW;

I think OpenIndiana still ships an older version of AOO:

https://www.openindiana.org/

You may ask Alexander Pyhalov: I did merge a bunch of his patches (with 
changes) into AOO so it may be easier to build nowadays although it is 
surely a bumpy road.


Pedro.



Re: [discussion] Roadmap for Open Office

2016-12-06 Thread Marcus

Am 12/06/2016 07:39 AM, schrieb Peter Kovacs:

I have created a page on the Confluence Wiki

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Roadmap

I made a start, with Points that came into my mind without haveing to
check on something. I thought we have in the upper Region our Release
Plan and the a Backlog where we simply collect Toppics which we can then
devide and maybe add to our release plan by copy paste.

I have kept every point quite short and crisp. Please feel free to add
or change Points.


great, thanks for the start.


As soon as I have access I would like to delete the Roadmap on Media
wiki Page and refered Files. (->
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Features and
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/ooo_roadmap.pdf )


Right, they are really outdated and no longer needed.


Maybe it would make sense to add to
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Product_Release the Releases 4.1.4 with
some rough estimate (my suggestion would be Q1 2017) and also add 4.2.0
with a note to be decided or something.


I've added a line for 4.1.4 and 4.2.0. Let's see if this makes a 
difference. ;-)


Marcus




On 05.12.2016 22:18, Matthias Seidel wrote:


Yes, we could use our cWiki for that...

Apart from that, it would be a good idea to give our users a small
overview of what is planned for the future.
Maybe combined with a Christmas greeting? ;-)

regards, Matthias


Am 04.12.2016 um 15:11 schrieb Marcus:

Am 12/03/2016 01:21 PM, schrieb Peter Kovacs:

So I suggest to keep Bugzilla as Bugtracker, and use Jira as a Todo
backlog List type. I love Agile methology. Never came to use it
thought,
because companies can not deal well if there is no timeframe. But I
think for us its perfect.


we have already so many tools that some of us still don't know any of
them. So, it won't help us when we have just another tool to document
some tasks. We should use our Wiki like we do for other tasks.

My 2 ct.

Marcus


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Re: Facebook page

2016-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Matthias Seidel wrote:

http://www.openoffice.org/social/index.html
BTW: Is someone in charge of the Twitter account?
The Twitter widget on that page throws an error:


I don't think you need access to a Twitter account to create a widget 
for that account: you should be able to login at 
https://twitter.com/settings/widgets/new/ with your Twitter account and 
obtain a widget for the OpenOffice account that way.



Any ideas about identi.ca?!


I do have the password for it. Identi.ca is a social network that was 
supposed to be an alternative to Twitter, but the Identi.ca site has not 
been accepting new account registrations for years. So (besides the fact 
that I can surely give access to others if there is interest in keeping 
the account operational) I think we can drop it from our social page.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [discussion] Roadmap for Open Office

2016-12-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
I have now Archieved the Roadmap on the Mediawiki. It is now in a 
subpage features/Archieve/OOo 3.3
And put a note out that the new Roadmap is to be found on the Confluence 
Wiki.

But I have not delivered any link. Should I add it?

Also there are lots of document that describe old processes in Planing 
and so forth. We should Archive them too. However I can not move things 
to an appropriate Folder.

So I left the Link to avoid unlinked pages.

Can we maybe add a Open Office.org Archieve and move all the depricated 
pages there?


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Re: [discussion] Roadmap for Open Office

2016-12-06 Thread Patricia Shanahan

On 12/5/2016 12:35 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote:
...

# Concerning 12h period. (did not find who brought this up :) )
What I mean is that it would be great if we could devide all activities
in good estimate able chunks. Agile methology claims everything that an
experienced developer estimates beyond 24h h (3 working days) of effort
is inaccurate and there is a high propability that something has been
forgotten.

...

There are important, even essential, tasks that cannot be handled in
neat, tidy, estimatable chunks.

I am trying to simultaneously learn AOO internals and analyze a bug.
Debug on a very large body of unfamiliar, long-maintained code is a
messy process. I have done it intermittently for decades, and still
don't know a way to make it clean and tidy. I usually know what to do
for the current step, but the next step will depend on its results.

It is less a matter of "something has been forgotten" than of "most of
the necessary knowledge is not yet known".

It would be great if we could divide **some** activities in good
estimatable chunks. I just don't think aiming for "all" makes sense. On
the other hand, the tasks that can be handled in tidy pieces are exactly
the ones relatively inexperienced contributors should be starting on.

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Is there still someone who build for Solaris/Openindiana

2016-12-06 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hi all

I'm going to the configure script and I recognize that there are still 
parts for solaris. As far as I know, the last version who build with 
solaris was the AOO 3.4.x. My question is, if we should ride off the 
Solaris stuff or we should keep it. Well it won't hurt to keep it, but 
it makes also no sense to keep a platform no one build.


Regards Raphael


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Testlink Admin right back

2016-12-06 Thread Raphael Bircher

Hello

I just go the test link admin rights back. Thanks to Adfinis SyGroup. 
People who wants admin rights can ask me.


Regards, Raphael


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Re: [discussion] Roadmap for Open Office

2016-12-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Peter Kovacs wrote:

Also there are lots of document that describe old processes in Planing
and so forth. We should Archive them too. However I can not move things
to an appropriate Folder.
So I left the Link to avoid unlinked pages.
Can we maybe add a Open Office.org Archieve and move all the depricated
pages there?


Sure. Why can't you move pages? Do you think it's a matter of 
permissions? We can look into giving additional permissions.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [discussion] Roadmap for Open Office

2016-12-06 Thread Carl Marcum

On 12/06/2016 01:39 AM, Peter Kovacs wrote:

I have created a page on the Confluence Wiki

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Roadmap


I made a start, with Points that came into my mind without haveing to 
check on something. I thought we have in the upper Region our Release 
Plan and the a Backlog where we simply collect Toppics which we can 
then devide and maybe add to our release plan by copy paste.


I have kept every point quite short and crisp. Please feel free to add 
or change Points.


As soon as I have access I would like to delete the Roadmap on Media 
wiki Page and refered Files. (-> 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Features and 
http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/ooo_roadmap.pdf )



Maybe it would make sense to add to 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Product_Release the Releases 4.1.4 
with some rough estimate (my suggestion would be Q1 2017) and also add 
4.2.0 with a note to be decided or something.


So it is clear that we have more Releases in the pipe.


That would clear the situation up a bit.


All the best

Peter


Hi Peter,

Thanks for the initiative.

I agree,  some people may show up and need a place to find helpful tasks.

Best regards,
Carl


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