Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> (OK, I guess it's better to re-subscribe to the list). >> >> In reply to Norbert Thiebaud*: >> >> In the Power rule, which *is* commonly used for differentiation, we take a >> series >> of

Re: R: Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On 02/12/2013 11:21 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: No, I cant, and I wont start scartching my head over it. The issue is minuscule enough that I have been aware from the start that it wasnt worth this bikeshed thread [1]. Of course, had I implemented quaternion math using Boost, no one would be com

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On 02/12/2013 05:45 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 12/02/2013 23:22, Rob Weir a écrit : But again, if you think that situation never comes up in real use, then let's not make the change, since it would have no benefit. You don't seem to see the

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On 02/12/2013 05:07 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 02/12/2013 10:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Sorry, if it wasn't clear. I have a spreadsheet on my hard-drive right now that would be break if we changed the behavior of 0^0. And what is your *serious* use case for this spreadsheet? Beside to use it

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

My preference is to leave the patch and return #Value On 02/12/2013 01:11 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: RESOLUTION OF THE PROPOSAL The proposed change was made under CTR (Commit then Review). There has been a subsequent review and, as Don points out, the discussion has been lengthy and vocal.

Re: Select column in Calc

OK, then you want the information as provided by Ariel. Just wanted to be sure. On 02/12/2013 08:50 PM, Galileo Teco Juárez wrote: obtain the value in a cell specific 2013/2/12 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak Do you want to "get", "take", or "obtain" the value that is in the cell, or, do you

R: Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

No, I cant, and I wont start scartching my head over it. The issue is minuscule enough that I have been aware from the start that it wasnt worth this bikeshed thread [1]. Of course, had I implemented quaternion math using Boost, no one would be complaining. :-P Pedro. [1] http://bikeshed.org

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Feb 12, 2013, at 10:39 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > (OK, I guess it's better to re-subscribe to the list). > > In reply to Norbert Thiebaud*: > > In the Power rule, which *is* commonly used for differentiation, we take a > series > of polinomials where n !=0. n is not only different than zero,

Re: Tutorial About

Hi Jorge, On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:06:11PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote: > Hello Ariel, > > I did the patch you told me, but I have not results. Did you build it? Did it compile without errors? Did you copy the library with the modifications back in your installation? (you need to copy bo

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

(OK, I guess it's better to re-subscribe to the list). In reply to Norbert Thiebaud*: In the Power rule, which *is* commonly used for differentiation, we take a series of polinomials where n !=0. n is not only different than zero, most importantly, it is a constant. Of course we can use the pow

Re: Updating Java libraries

Hi Michael, On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 09:59:02PM -0500, Michael Lam wrote: > On 02/12/2013 12:01 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37:35PM -0500, Michael Lam wrote: > >>I have updated the external_deps.lst with the updated hsqldb > >>information. If someone can give me s

Re: Updating Java libraries

On 02/12/2013 12:01 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37:35PM -0500, Michael Lam wrote: I have updated the external_deps.lst with the updated hsqldb information. If someone can give me some pointer into how to just retrieve the jar instead of the source You don't retri

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: > I also invite the numerous mathematicians on this list to refer to "N. > Boubaki (*), Element of Mathematics, Set Theory, p164: III.3.5 > Proposition 11. "[...] Note in particular that 0^0 = 1." http://books.google.com/books?id=IL-SI67h

Re: Tutorial About

Hello Ariel, I did the patch you told me, but I have not results. I would like to know what would be the equivalent of a code tutorial about for this new source code to generate the button. 2013/2/12 Ariel Constenla-Haile > Hi Jorge, > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:06:12AM -0600, jorge ivan po

Re: Select column in Calc

Ariel Constenla-Haile thanks by the examples i will study 2013/2/12 Galileo Teco Juárez > obtain the value in a cell specific > > > 2013/2/12 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak > >> Do you want to "get", "take", or "obtain" the value that is in the cell, >> or, do you want to "select" the cell so that i

Re: Select column in Calc

obtain the value in a cell specific 2013/2/12 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak > Do you want to "get", "take", or "obtain" the value that is in the cell, > or, do you want to "select" the cell so that it is the current cell? > > On 02/12/2013 03:18 PM, Galileo Teco Juárez wrote: > >> sorry mistake >> of

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > 1) Nobody so far exhibited a spreadsheet that would be broken by the new > behavior. I think attachment to the list are stripped... but... any spreadsheet that try to teach the Power Rule ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_rule ) with

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

On 2/12/2013 5:57 AM, Steve Lee wrote: Andrew I think that binaries URL should be he following, at least for accessing the binaries. http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 As you point out however they are not there yet. Do you have an ETA? ETA is now. http://ci.apache.org/projects

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

On 13/02/2013 9:06 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Using Bugzilla makes it easier for all of us. As Ariel suggested, if you enter the defect reports into Bugzilla, it would be good to preface the Subject line with [ia2] so it is clear that they are related to a branch build, not a trunk build. Okay. I've s

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: The objective is to achieve consensus. I believe it is clear that there is no consensus on the proposed change and the proposal fails. I still have to see some credible arguments here, since most of the feedback was misplaced. What we learned so far is: 1) Nobody s

Re: Select column in Calc

Do you want to "get", "take", or "obtain" the value that is in the cell, or, do you want to "select" the cell so that it is the current cell? On 02/12/2013 03:18 PM, Galileo Teco Juárez wrote: sorry mistake of translations this is the real question *how can i select the value of a colum in a

Re: Completed Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

Welcome. have you tried to build the source code yet? This may be a good starting place http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO On 02/12/2013 04:13 PM, Maarten Kesselaers wrote: Hello, My name is Maarten Kesselaers. I'm from Belgium and work as a project manager a

Re: Performance test comparisons

If you have a good setup for testing such things, try loading, saving, and closing AndrewMacro.odt LO claims that much of their improvements are related to large Calc documents. Might be nice to find and test their large test Calc document... Not sure what they used, however. On 02/12/2013

Re: [DEV] Compiler/build error

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 05:13:00PM -0500, Fernando Martinez wrote: > BUILD FAILED > > C:\source\aoo-trunk\main\hsqldb\wntmsci12.pro\misc\build\hsqldb\build\build. > xml:302: Compile failed; see the compiler error output for details. > If anybody could please help with this error and also tell me h

Re: Select column in Calc

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 02:18:42PM -0600, Galileo Teco Juárez wrote: > sorry mistake > of translations > > this is the real question > > *how can i select the value of a colum in a specific cell. ie, select the > value of 10 from the B4 cell* look at the API index for methods starting with G: h

Re: New page: Contributing Code

On 12 February 2013 23:55, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM, janI wrote: > > On 12 February 2013 23:19, Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> We had a thread before Christmas discussing code contributions and > >> best practices for how someone could contribute code to multiple > >> project

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:33 PM, James Teh wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm one of the lead developers of NVDA. It is fantastic to see this work > progressing so well. It is something for which we (and our users) have been > hoping/waiting for years. I am very impressed with the progress so far. > > I eag

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Le 12/02/2013 13:05, Rob Weir a écrit : > >> I don't know. I was asking a question. But I think this is an >> important question: Why would an extension author not update their >> extension for AOO 4.0? Some hypothetical answers: >> >> 1)

Re: New page: Contributing Code

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:47 PM, janI wrote: > On 12 February 2013 23:19, Rob Weir wrote: > >> We had a thread before Christmas discussing code contributions and >> best practices for how someone could contribute code to multiple >> projects, e.g., AOO and LO. >> >> I've written this up, along wi

Re: New page: Contributing Code

On 12 February 2013 23:19, Rob Weir wrote: > We had a thread before Christmas discussing code contributions and > best practices for how someone could contribute code to multiple > projects, e.g., AOO and LO. > > I've written this up, along with more general remarks on contributing > code on a ne

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Hagar Delest wrote: > Le 12/02/2013 23:22, Rob Weir a écrit : > >> But again, if you think that situation never comes up in real use, >> then let's not make the change, since it would have no benefit. > > > You don't seem to see the benefit of the change: warn the

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

Hi all, I'm one of the lead developers of NVDA. It is fantastic to see this work progressing so well. It is something for which we (and our users) have been hoping/waiting for years. I am very impressed with the progress so far. I eagerly await the decision regarding how issues should be repo

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Le 12/02/2013 23:22, Rob Weir a écrit : But again, if you think that situation never comes up in real use, then let's not make the change, since it would have no benefit. You don't seem to see the benefit of the change: warn the user that there is something weird in the formula that requires h

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Am 02/12/2013 11:22 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 02/12/2013 10:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 02/12/2013 08:46 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuniwrote:

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

Le 12/02/2013 13:05, Rob Weir a écrit : I don't know. I was asking a question. But I think this is an important question: Why would an extension author not update their extension for AOO 4.0? Some hypothetical answers: 1) The extension is unmaintained One of the top reasons I guess. I mysl

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 02/12/2013 10:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: > >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Marcus (OOo) >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 02/12/2013 08:46 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > > Hello;

Completed Introduction to Contributing to Apache OpenOffice Module

Hello, My name is Maarten Kesselaers. I'm from Belgium and work as a project manager and EDI exchange expert. I used to code (Java, C++ and DOM) and helped other developers on forums, but I'm up to a new challenge. That's why I would like to help make AOO better. Kind regards, Maarten

[DEV] Compiler/build error

Hello Team, I followed the steps at http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_ste p to build AOO but I get an error after about 2 hours of building. The error reads as follow; BUILD FAILED C:\source\aoo-trunk\main\hsqldb\wntmsci12.pro\misc\build\hsqldb\build

New page: Contributing Code

We had a thread before Christmas discussing code contributions and best practices for how someone could contribute code to multiple projects, e.g., AOO and LO. I've written this up, along with more general remarks on contributing code on a new page: http://openoffice.apache.org/contributing-code.

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Am 02/12/2013 10:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 02/12/2013 08:46 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; I don't understand, I saw a bug (erroneous result returned by a function) and I fixed it

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Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Le 12/02/2013 00:45, Fred Ollinger a écrit : Another idea is to return 1, but have a popup which says: "We are returning 1 to 0^0 due to backwards compatability, but we this might change in the fure. Click here to never show this warning again and continue to return 1. Also, you can use strict (o

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Le 12/02/2013 22:31, Marcus (OOo) a écrit : Some facts from the issue itself: - open since 2010-09-09 - only 2 votes (from author of comment #2) Now 4 with mines. Hagar

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 02/12/2013 08:46 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: > >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>> >>> Hello; >>> >>> I don't understand, >>> >>> I saw a bug (erroneous result returned by a function) and I fixed >>> it respecting the st

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Am 02/12/2013 08:46 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; I don't understand, I saw a bug (erroneous result returned by a function) and I fixed it respecting the standards, thereby enhancing interperability with the market leader. I am aware that

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Ugh.. > > I haven't been following this thread at all ... > I recommend reading the archives then, since every argument that could be made, has been made already. -Rob > I unsubscribed from the -dev list because I always ended up in absurd

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

The current behavior is in compliance with the ODF 1.2 OpenFormula specification. In that context, the current result for POWER(0,0) is not a bug. The fact that 0^0 is not defined (nor are 0^-n values) in mathematics (although some define them for various conveniences) does not mean it can't be d

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Ugh.. I haven't been following this thread at all ... I unsubscribed from the -dev list because I always ended up in absurd discussions and there was not much technical content either. I suspected it would be bikeshed.org material but in any case let me make things clear. - 0^0 = 1 is NOT mat

Re: Select column in Calc

sorry mistake of translations this is the real question *how can i select the value of a colum in a specific cell. ie, select the value of 10 from the B4 cell* 2013/2/12 Galileo Teco Juárez > Select column in Calc > > as I can select from Python > the value of a particular column in Calc > >

Select column in Calc

Select column in Calc as I can select from Python the value of a particular column in Calc or is necessary for the user to select? regards -- *Galileo Teco Juarez* *Web:* http://80bits.wordpress.com *Twitter:* @genitalico *Linkedin:* http://mx.linkedin.com/pub/g

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hello; > > I don't understand, > > I saw a bug (erroneous result returned by a function) and I fixed > it respecting the standards, thereby enhancing interperability > with the market leader. > > I am aware that Rob has a different point of v

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

Hello; I don't understand, I saw a bug (erroneous result returned by a function) and I fixed it respecting the standards, thereby enhancing interperability with the market leader. I am aware that Rob has a different point of view here but so far neither him nor Stephen Hawking has explained how

Re: Mwiki is moved into maintenance mode.

When I look at the preceding mail in this thread, I see a lot of god suggestionsbut it seems its all still open, or did I miss a point. Regarding streamlining Mwiki, - there are no real proposals to reduce the number of catagories - it seems that everybody agrees on marking old pages (wi

RE: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

RESOLUTION OF THE PROPOSAL The proposed change was made under CTR (Commit then Review). There has been a subsequent review and, as Don points out, the discussion has been lengthy and vocal. The objective is to achieve consensus. I believe it is clear that there is no consensus on the proposed c

OT: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

I want to circle back and complete the relationship, if any, between the specifications of computations procedures and mathematics. First, there is no prohibition between defining any number of algorithms as computations on computer-representations of numbers. Mathematics allows all sort of fu

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

...So I got curious, and I paged back in my email archive, and it seems this is the biggest AOO dev thread since the graduation vote back in early September. At this point, does anyone care enough about changing the status quo as to put up a coherent proposal to be voted on? Don

Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0

On 11/02/2013 Andre Fischer wrote: On 11.02.2013 17:10, Andrea Pescetti wrote: A specification may need to leave room for implementation-defined behavior. Look at the C or C++ standard for example. Do you know of any example where this is actually a good thing? It is good for developers who n

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 01:42:42PM +0100, Joost Andrae wrote: > Hi, > > in the moment I have just one question in mind: > > Who's going to adapt the Sun/Oracle extensions that contain > Addons.xcu like presentation-minimizer.oxt ? This extension does not provide a toolbar of its own, it uses onl

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:06:27 +0100 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 2/12/13 2:15 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:07:59 +0100 > > Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > > > >> On 2/12/13 1:42 PM, Joost Andrae wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> in the moment I have just one question in mind: > >>> > >>

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On 2/12/13 2:15 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:07:59 +0100 > Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > >> On 2/12/13 1:42 PM, Joost Andrae wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> in the moment I have just one question in mind: >>> >>> Who's going to adapt the Sun/Oracle extensions that contain Addons.xcu >>> li

Re: [Call For QA Volunteers] AOO UI IAccessible2 testing work

Andrew I think that binaries URL should be he following, at least for accessing the binaries. http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/#w7ia2 As you point out however they are not there yet. Do you have an ETA? After Stuart's post of the NVDA list there has been quite a bit of discussion and en

Re: Performance test comparisons

On Tuesday, February 12, 2013 07:42:49 Rob Weir wrote: > I did some tests to see how we were doing, comparing AOO 3.4.1 on > Windows against OOo 3.3.0. And since LibreOffice claims that their > 4.0 release is much faster and leaner, I tested them as well, to see > if we could learn anything. > >

Re: Will AOO write .docx?

Regina Henschel schrieb: I have written to Mathias Stürmer and ask, how to get the patches. I have got a private answers and waiting for the permission to share it. Kind regards Regina

Re: Performance test comparisons

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:53 AM, David Gerard wrote: > On 12 February 2013 12:42, Rob Weir wrote: > >> I just did a basic test, seeing how long it took to load a large text >> document, in this case the ODF 1.2 specification. I looked at memory >> consumed and the number of seconds to load. I l

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

Posted https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/301315097794596867 ...as well as sent to our media/analyst list :-) Cheers, Sally   From: Sally Khudairi >To: Rob Weir ; dev@openoffice.apache.org >Cc: Sally Khudairi >Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 23:21 >Subject: Re: Draft blog post: $21 million p

Re: pdf export option for FilterData and ExportFormFields

Hi Andrea, Am 05.02.2013 22:34, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Do you mean that not only you wish that OpenOffice export fields as "enterable fields" (which it already does) but that the PDF file produced by OpenOffice should also support the ability to save form content? But is this ability a docume

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 14:07:59 +0100 Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 2/12/13 1:42 PM, Joost Andrae wrote: > > Hi, > > > > in the moment I have just one question in mind: > > > > Who's going to adapt the Sun/Oracle extensions that contain Addons.xcu > > like presentation-minimizer.oxt ? > > well the e

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On 2/12/13 1:42 PM, Joost Andrae wrote: > Hi, > > in the moment I have just one question in mind: > > Who's going to adapt the Sun/Oracle extensions that contain Addons.xcu > like presentation-minimizer.oxt ? well the extensions where we have the source code can be changed by volunteers. Maybe d

Re: Draft blog post: $21 million per day

Good morning. It is posted now. The URL is: http://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/21_million_per_day Regards, -Rob On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Sally Khudairi wrote: > Thanks so much, Rob. I'd prefer we go out at 8AM ET on Tuesday. I think > we'll get the most media attention during the busin

Re: Performance test comparisons

On 12 February 2013 12:42, Rob Weir wrote: > I just did a basic test, seeing how long it took to load a large text > document, in this case the ODF 1.2 specification. I looked at memory > consumed and the number of seconds to load. I loaded the document > once to reduce the impact of disk cachi

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

Hi, in the moment I have just one question in mind: Who's going to adapt the Sun/Oracle extensions that contain Addons.xcu like presentation-minimizer.oxt ? 8) Inconvenience -- it is natural for anyone to complain about needing to do additional work where they don't see the advantage. So i

Performance test comparisons

I did some tests to see how we were doing, comparing AOO 3.4.1 on Windows against OOo 3.3.0. And since LibreOffice claims that their 4.0 release is much faster and leaner, I tested them as well, to see if we could learn anything. I just did a basic test, seeing how long it took to load a large te

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 2/12/13 12:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Hagar Delest >> wrote: >>> Le 11/02/2013 22:46, Rob Weir a écrit : My impression was that even if we made no changes, from the user's perspective, they

Re: Updating Java libraries

On 2013/02/11 8:06 PM, Michael Lam wrote: It is partially to address the JDK issue but there have been improvements in HSQLDB for both performance and conformance that would be helpful which is why I lean more towards updating to the latest rather than patching the existing. Absolutely! The JDK

Re: Google Summer of Code 2013: Coming sooner than you think

On 2/11/13 8:34 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > Google announced the timeline for the 2013 program today: > > http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 > > The ASF has applied as a mentoring organization in the past. I assume > we will again this year. If so there would be a limited numb

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On 2/12/13 12:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Hagar Delest > wrote: >> Le 11/02/2013 22:46, Rob Weir a écrit : >>> >>> My impression was that even if we made no changes, from the user's >>> perspective, they would lose all extensions. This is due to the >>> change in ba

Re: 4.0 and loss of backward compatibility for extensions with toolbar

On 2/12/13 12:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 11/02/2013 Hagar Delest wrote: >> No real problem with reinstalling extensions after a major upgrade, I've >> done that too. >> But there is a difference between the mere inconvenience of reinstalling >> extensions and losing them completely (waiting