Re: OpenRheinRuhr war: Re: Moin, Moin!

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hallo Michael,

Wieviele ProOO-Box-DVD willst Du haben? 10?

Meinst Du ProOO-Box-Stcks loszuwerden, dann würden wir noch Einige kaufen?

Flyer sind derzeitig noch ungeklärt, aber wir kümmern uns darum.



Gruß
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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Jim Jagielski]

Sounds like a great plan! 
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> I've removed the 4.1.4-RC4 files from the SourceForge distribution area (not 
> public yet: it is "staged" and only project members can see it). This is the 
> place where our official binaries are served from.
> 
> Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload 4.1.4-RC5 
> there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not publicly accessible). 
> This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to update the download pages 
> any moment after the vote passes.
> 
> Of course, should RC5 be rejected I'll simply delete it and repeat.
> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Re: svn commit: r22218 - in /dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5: ./ binaries/ sources/

[Jim Jagielski]

Will do... Give me ~1hr :)

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Don Lewis  wrote:
> 
> On 11 Oct, j...@apache.org wrote:
>> Author: jim
>> Date: Wed Oct 11 16:07:28 2017
>> New Revision: 22218
>> 
>> Log:
>> prep top level dir for 4.1.4-RC5 builds
>> 
>> Added:
>>dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/
>>dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/binaries/
>>dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/sources/
>> 
> 
> If you upload the source tarball, then I can get started on updating the
> FreeBSD port.
> 
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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Don Lewis]

On 11 Oct, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> I've removed the 4.1.4-RC4 files from the SourceForge distribution area 
> (not public yet: it is "staged" and only project members can see it). 
> This is the place where our official binaries are served from.
> 
> Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload 
> 4.1.4-RC5 there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not 
> publicly accessible). This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to 
> update the download pages any moment after the vote passes.
> 
> Of course, should RC5 be rejected I'll simply delete it and repeat.

That's a good way to reduce the time to the official release, but if we
had done this for RC4, then the release would have been happened before
the latest regression was reported.  That report came in well after the
conclusion of the vote.


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Re: svn commit: r22218 - in /dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5: ./ binaries/ sources/

[Don Lewis]

On 11 Oct, j...@apache.org wrote:
> Author: jim
> Date: Wed Oct 11 16:07:28 2017
> New Revision: 22218
> 
> Log:
> prep top level dir for 4.1.4-RC5 builds
> 
> Added:
> dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/
> dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/binaries/
> dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/sources/
> 

If you upload the source tarball, then I can get started on updating the
FreeBSD port.


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Re: Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Marcus]

Am 11.10.2017 um 23:29 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
I've removed the 4.1.4-RC4 files from the SourceForge distribution area 
(not public yet: it is "staged" and only project members can see it). 
This is the place where our official binaries are served from.


Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload 
4.1.4-RC5 there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not 
publicly accessible). This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to 
update the download pages any moment after the vote passes.


Of course, should RC5 be rejected I'll simply delete it and repeat.


sounds good +1.

Marcus


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Upload of 4.1.4-RC5 to SourceForge

[Andrea Pescetti]

I've removed the 4.1.4-RC4 files from the SourceForge distribution area 
(not public yet: it is "staged" and only project members can see it). 
This is the place where our official binaries are served from.


Instead of waiting for a successful vote, I will gradually upload 
4.1.4-RC5 there in the next days (it will still be "staged", not 
publicly accessible). This cuts down the waiting time and allows us to 
update the download pages any moment after the vote passes.


Of course, should RC5 be rejected I'll simply delete it and repeat.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Starting builds of 4.1.4-RC5

[Jim Jagielski]

Uploads of AOO 4.1.4-RC5 for Linux 32 bit builds are being
committed as we speak...

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> Official SVN rev will be:
> 
>1811857.
> 
> % svn info
> Path: .
> Working Copy Root Path: /Users/jim/src/asf/code/follow/aoo-414
> URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO414
> Relative URL: ^/openoffice/branches/AOO414
> Repository Root: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
> Repository UUID: 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
> Revision: 1811857
> Node Kind: directory
> Schedule: normal
> Last Changed Author: jim
> Last Changed Rev: 1811857
> Last Changed Date: 2017-10-11 13:48:15 -0400 (Wed, 11 Oct 2017)
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RE: Moin, Moin!

[Jan-Christian Wienandt]

Moin Matthias,

> Habe jetzt erst entdeckt, dass es auch eine deutschsprachige
> dev-Liste gibt.

Willkommen.

> Ich selber werde einen Kaffeebecher "spenden"
> (https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-Mug.JPG)
> Bei Bedarf wollte ich davon einige mehr produzieren lassen.

Was kostet denn so ein Teil?

Gruß
Jan


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Java 9 on macOS

[Larry Gusaas]

Neither Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2 or 4.2 can run Java (jdk-9.jdk) on macOS 10.12 (Sierra) or 
10.13 (High Sierra). Both can run Java (jdk1.8.0_144.jdk).


I also have the legacy Apple Java (1.6.0.jdk) installed.

I have JavaAppletPlugin (Java 9 build 181) in my Internet Plug-ins folder.

Note: LibreOffice 5.4.2 will run Java (jdk-9.jdk)


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Re: issue 127553

[Marcus]

Am 11.10.2017 um 15:19 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

We can always change that later...

@Marcus:

Can you re-add 4.1.4 (also for Target Milestone)?


done for milestone, version and lastest confirmation.

Marcus


Am 11.10.2017 um 14:24 schrieb Mathias Röllig:

This is a very good description. Mathias, have you already copied it
to Bugzilla? (I've also tested with business cards, but this one
looks more generic).


Done.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127553

But 4.1.4 isn't available for version in bugzilla. Neither as
»Version« nor as »Latest Confirmation in«.


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Re: Resigning as RM for 4.1.x

[Marcus]

Am 11.10.2017 um 01:30 schrieb Dave Fisher:

Hi

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 10, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Marcus  wrote:


Am 10.10.2017 um 22:56 schrieb Dave Fisher:
Hi -
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Marcus  wrote:

Am 10.10.2017 um 22:03 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

On Oct 10, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:

Now the question is, is it OK for us to go ahead, release 4.1.4 with this "known 
issue" and commit to fixing this and other possible regressions in 4.1.5 next month? 
Technically, the Release Manager (and I still consider Jim to be in charge, of course!) 
has the last word. But I'd say everybody is welcome to comment.

I am 100% fine w/ this. It is a known regression however, but we can
say that w/ the release of 4.1.4 we are committing ourselves to a 4.1.5 in 
30-60 days.


sounds good.

We will need to make sure that people know how to get 4.1.3 if they run into 
the issue.


I think when people can download 4.1.4, then they can also downlaod 4.1.3 to do 
a downgrade install. Or do you mean to write 1-2 sentences into the release 
notes?


Yes. A little text about how to downgrade.


with Jim's recent decision to this is now obsolete.

Marcus




Then we can still decide if the amount of issues is high enough to put effort 
into a 4.1.5 release. Or move on to 4.2.0.

How stable is trunk?


I don't remember many tests and reports about these dev builds. So, I would 
call it: undefined.

Marcus


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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Marcus]

Am 11.10.2017 um 13:20 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.

So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?

I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.

So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
(after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
start on 4.1.4-RC5


\o/ great choice. :-)

Thanks a lot for this. You have my support.

Marcus


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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Peter kovacs]

Jim, you are the Boss! :)
It is good you stay Release Manager! I appreciate that a lot!

Am 11. Oktober 2017 18:27:55 MESZ schrieb Kay Schenk :
>
>On 10/11/2017 05:46 AM, Pedro Lino wrote:
>> 
>>> On October 11, 2017 at 12:20 PM Jim Jagielski 
>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
>>> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
>>> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.
>> 
>> +1
>
>my +1 also!
>
>> 
>>> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
>>> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
>>> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
>>> start on 4.1.4-RC5
>> 
>> Thank you for reconsidering and for staying as RM!
>> Looking forward to test 4.1.4 RC5 under Windows 7 and 10 as soon as
>it is available.
>
>yes! Thanks Jim.
>
>> 
>> Pedro
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Re: Starting builds of 4.1.4-RC5

[Matthias Seidel]

OK, then I will start again with 1811857.


Am 11.10.2017 um 19:51 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Official SVN rev will be:
>
> 1811857.
>
> % svn info
> Path: .
> Working Copy Root Path: /Users/jim/src/asf/code/follow/aoo-414
> URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO414
> Relative URL: ^/openoffice/branches/AOO414
> Repository Root: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
> Repository UUID: 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
> Revision: 1811857
> Node Kind: directory
> Schedule: normal
> Last Changed Author: jim
> Last Changed Rev: 1811857
> Last Changed Date: 2017-10-11 13:48:15 -0400 (Wed, 11 Oct 2017)
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Starting builds of 4.1.4-RC5

[Jim Jagielski]

Official SVN rev will be:

1811857.

% svn info
Path: .
Working Copy Root Path: /Users/jim/src/asf/code/follow/aoo-414
URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO414
Relative URL: ^/openoffice/branches/AOO414
Repository Root: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
Repository UUID: 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
Revision: 1811857
Node Kind: directory
Schedule: normal
Last Changed Author: jim
Last Changed Rev: 1811857
Last Changed Date: 2017-10-11 13:48:15 -0400 (Wed, 11 Oct 2017)

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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Kay Schenk]

On 10/11/2017 05:46 AM, Pedro Lino wrote:



On October 11, 2017 at 12:20 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:


After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.


+1


my +1 also!




So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
(after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
start on 4.1.4-RC5


Thank you for reconsidering and for staying as RM!
Looking forward to test 4.1.4 RC5 under Windows 7 and 10 as soon as it is 
available.


yes! Thanks Jim.



Pedro

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Re: OpenRheinRuhr war: Re: Moin, Moin!

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hallo, 

> Deutschsprachige Flyer zu AOO mit aktuellem Inhalt wären nützlich (der
> Vorrat ist zwar noch nicht aufgebraucht, geht aber bald zur Neige).

Ich habe gerade an Detlef und Jan geschrieben und gebeten zu überlegen ob wir 
bereit wären 1000 Flyer rechtzeitig drucken zu lassen. Ich melde mich, sobald 
ich etwas weiß.

Da aktuell unsere (ProOO-Box) Server-Jahresrechnung ansteht ist das auch eine 
finanzielle Frage. Vielleicht könnten hier einige Leute spontan 10 Euro 
dazugeben? Wer möchte, dem schicke ich Kontodaten, Spendenquittung können wir 
aber nicht ausstellen.




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Re: OpenRheinRuhr war: Re: Moin, Moin!

[Detlef Nannen]

Hallo Michael ,
ich schau was ich an Flyern und Material habe und gebe es zur Post.

Neueste Flyer haben wir  nicht, wurden die letzten beiden Jahre nicht 
aktualisiert.


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von der "Box"


Am 11. Oktober 2017 3:37:58 nachm. schrieb "Dr. Michael Stehmann" 
:



Hallo,

Am 11.10.2017 um 14:25 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:


P.S.: Am 5.11. bin ich kurz auf der OpenRheinRuhr an unserem
OpenOffice-Stand anzutreffen.


Auch das ist prima, noch besser wäre aber eine Info darüber das es diesen 
Stand geben wird, denn bisher ist, zumindest mir, nichts bekannt gewesen.
(Ich kann nicht kommen, ansonsten hätte ich schon geschrieben, denn ich 
wurde bereits durch die LO-Liste auf den Termin aufmerksam.)

Ich pflege zeitnah auf den Stand hinzuweisen, und es ist noch etwas Zeit
bis dahin. Außerdem kam erst am Wochenende die Bestätigung.


btw.:
was ist mit Materialien für den Stand? Wer betreut überhaupt den Stand, 
bisher gab es, wie gesagt keine Info darüber.


Wie immer Mechtilde und ich mit der Unterstützung von Familie und
Freunden. Noch können wir das Material dem hiesigen Fundus entnehmen.


Wir können sicherlich einige aktuelle ProOO-Box-DVD für den Stand zur 
Verfügung stellen, Flyer könnten wir momentan wohl auch noch schaffen 
nachzudrucken, falls keine mehr da sind.


Deutschsprachige Flyer zu AOO mit aktuellem Inhalt wären nützlich (der
Vorrat ist zwar noch nicht aufgebraucht, geht aber bald zur Neige).

Wir werben auch gerne für die Box.

Gruß
Michael






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OpenRheinRuhr war: Re: Moin, Moin!

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Hallo,

Am 11.10.2017 um 14:25 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

>> P.S.: Am 5.11. bin ich kurz auf der OpenRheinRuhr an unserem
>> OpenOffice-Stand anzutreffen.
> 
> Auch das ist prima, noch besser wäre aber eine Info darüber das es diesen 
> Stand geben wird, denn bisher ist, zumindest mir, nichts bekannt gewesen.
> (Ich kann nicht kommen, ansonsten hätte ich schon geschrieben, denn ich wurde 
> bereits durch die LO-Liste auf den Termin aufmerksam.)
Ich pflege zeitnah auf den Stand hinzuweisen, und es ist noch etwas Zeit
bis dahin. Außerdem kam erst am Wochenende die Bestätigung.
> 
> btw.:
> was ist mit Materialien für den Stand? Wer betreut überhaupt den Stand, 
> bisher gab es, wie gesagt keine Info darüber.

Wie immer Mechtilde und ich mit der Unterstützung von Familie und
Freunden. Noch können wir das Material dem hiesigen Fundus entnehmen.
> 
> Wir können sicherlich einige aktuelle ProOO-Box-DVD für den Stand zur 
> Verfügung stellen, Flyer könnten wir momentan wohl auch noch schaffen 
> nachzudrucken, falls keine mehr da sind.

Deutschsprachige Flyer zu AOO mit aktuellem Inhalt wären nützlich (der
Vorrat ist zwar noch nicht aufgebraucht, geht aber bald zur Neige).

Wir werben auch gerne für die Box.

Gruß
Michael




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Re: Moin, Moin!

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hallo Mathias, 

> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] 

> Das mit den DVDs solltest du nochmal mit Michael Stehmann besprechen.
> Hast du von den Flyern irgendwie Vorlagen?

Ja, es muss eine Vorlage dasein, ich frage gleich mal.



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Re: issue 127553

[Matthias Seidel]

We can always change that later...

@Marcus:

Can you re-add 4.1.4 (also for Target Milestone)?

Thanks, Matthias


Am 11.10.2017 um 14:24 schrieb Mathias Röllig:
>> This is a very good description. Mathias, have you already copied it
>> to Bugzilla? (I've also tested with business cards, but this one
>> looks more generic).
>
> Done.
>
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127553
>
> But 4.1.4 isn't available for version in bugzilla. Neither as
> »Version« nor as »Latest Confirmation in«.
>
>
> Regards, Mathias
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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

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Path: .
Working Copy Root Path: /Users/jim/src/asf/code/follow/aoo-414
URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/branches/AOO414
Relative URL: ^/openoffice/branches/AOO414
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> On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Jim,
> 
> can you give a short hint when you start building RC5 and the revision#?
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> Am 11.10.2017 um 14:02 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Lets go ahead and add those. Add the flag and request them and I'll review
>> and likely approve; at least we will doc them ;)
>> 
>> Thx!
>>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 11.10.2017 um 13:47 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 Are these requested as 4.1.4 blockers in Bugz?
>>> No.
>>> 
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> If time permits, could you have a look at:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127141
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127538
> 
> Only small translation fixes, but they didn't make it into 4.1.4.
> 
> Regards, Matthias
> 
> P.S.: I am also OK, if we go "regression only" for RC5
> 
> 
> Am 11.10.2017 um 13:20 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
>> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
>> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.
>> 
>> So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?
>> 
>> I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
>> and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
>> 
>> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
>> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
>> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
>> start on 4.1.4-RC5
>> 
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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Matthias Seidel]

Jim,

can you give a short hint when you start building RC5 and the revision#?

Matthias


Am 11.10.2017 um 14:02 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Lets go ahead and add those. Add the flag and request them and I'll review
> and likely approve; at least we will doc them ;)
>
> Thx!
>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Am 11.10.2017 um 13:47 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> Are these requested as 4.1.4 blockers in Bugz?
>> No.
>>
 On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 If time permits, could you have a look at:

 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127141
 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127538

 Only small translation fixes, but they didn't make it into 4.1.4.

 Regards, Matthias

 P.S.: I am also OK, if we go "regression only" for RC5


 Am 11.10.2017 um 13:20 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.
>
> So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?
>
> I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
> and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
>
> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
> start on 4.1.4-RC5
>
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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Jim Jagielski]

I am starting on macOS and Linux-64 builds for 4.1.4-RC5 as we speak.

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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 07:20:53 -0400
Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.
> 
> So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?
> 
> I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
> and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
> 
> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
> start on 4.1.4-RC5
> 

I think this is the best solution.

-- 
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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Pedro Lino]

> On October 11, 2017 at 12:20 PM Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> 
> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.

+1

> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
> start on 4.1.4-RC5

Thank you for reconsidering and for staying as RM!
Looking forward to test 4.1.4 RC5 under Windows 7 and 10 as soon as it is 
available.

Pedro

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Re: Moin, Moin!

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 11.10.2017 um 14:25 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> Hallo Mathias, 
>
>> Habe jetzt erst entdeckt, dass es auch eine deutschsprachige 
>> dev-Liste gibt.
> da haben wir sehr drum gekämpft, eigentlich wollte man uns keine 
> deutschsprachige dev zugestehen, weil man wegen des mutmaßlich geringen 
> Traffic annahm das das nicht lohnt - schadet also nicht hier Traffic zu 
> erzeugen das verbessert die Statistik ;-)
Hallo Jörg,

Ich hoffe, dass wir hier regen Austausch betreiben können.
StarOffice und OpenOffice.org (bei SUN und später Oracle) wurden quasi
bei mir um die Ecke entwickelt.
Vielleicht kann ich auch ein paar meiner Bekannten, die daran beteiligt
waren wieder aktivieren.
>> Manchmal ist es doch einfacher etwas kurz "in die Runde" zu werfen
>> anstatt es erst einmal auf Englisch zu übersetzen... ;-)
> In der Tat, da hast Du völlig recht. Ich finde Dein Vorgehen gut.
>
>> P.S.: Am 5.11. bin ich kurz auf der OpenRheinRuhr an unserem
>> OpenOffice-Stand anzutreffen.
> Auch das ist prima, noch besser wäre aber eine Info darüber das es diesen 
> Stand geben wird, denn bisher ist, zumindest mir, nichts bekannt gewesen.
> (Ich kann nicht kommen, ansonsten hätte ich schon geschrieben, denn ich wurde 
> bereits durch die LO-Liste auf den Termin aufmerksam.)
>
> btw.:
> was ist mit Materialien für den Stand? Wer betreut überhaupt den Stand, 
> bisher gab es, wie gesagt keine Info darüber.

Das macht (wie üblich) die Familie Stehmann.
Ich gehe davon aus, dass es noch eine Ankündigung gibt, aber auch hier
ist sicher die Öffentlichkeitsarbeit verbesserungsfähig! ;-)

> Wir können sicherlich einige aktuelle ProOO-Box-DVD für den Stand zur 
> Verfügung stellen, Flyer könnten wir momentan wohl auch noch schaffen 
> nachzudrucken, falls keine mehr da sind.   

Das mit den DVDs solltest du nochmal mit Michael Stehmann besprechen.
Hast du von den Flyern irgendwie Vorlagen?

Ich selber werde einen Kaffeebecher "spenden"
(https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-Mug.JPG)
Bei Bedarf wollte ich davon einige mehr produzieren lassen.

Am Samstag davor bin ich übrigens in Köln und werde mich mit einem der
Verantwortlichen für die OS/2-Portierung von AOO unterhalten können. Bis
dahin sollte die 4.1.4 offiziell sein.

Gruß aus Hamburg, Matthias
> Gruß
> Jörg 
>
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review granted: [Issue 127553] update links doesn't work for sections in 4.1.4 : [Attachment 86222] Labels patch

[bugzilla]

Jim Jagielski  has granted  review:
Issue 127553: update links doesn't work for sections in 4.1.4
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127553

Attachment 86222: Labels patch
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/attachment.cgi?id=86222=edit



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Created attachment 86222
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Labels patch

>From mailing list: confirmed to fix regression

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Issue 127553: update links doesn't work for sections in 4.1.4
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Re: Moin, Moin!

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hallo Mathias, 

> Habe jetzt erst entdeckt, dass es auch eine deutschsprachige 
> dev-Liste gibt.

da haben wir sehr drum gekämpft, eigentlich wollte man uns keine 
deutschsprachige dev zugestehen, weil man wegen des mutmaßlich geringen Traffic 
annahm das das nicht lohnt - schadet also nicht hier Traffic zu erzeugen das 
verbessert die Statistik ;-)

> Manchmal ist es doch einfacher etwas kurz "in die Runde" zu werfen
> anstatt es erst einmal auf Englisch zu übersetzen... ;-)

In der Tat, da hast Du völlig recht. Ich finde Dein Vorgehen gut.

> P.S.: Am 5.11. bin ich kurz auf der OpenRheinRuhr an unserem
> OpenOffice-Stand anzutreffen.

Auch das ist prima, noch besser wäre aber eine Info darüber das es diesen Stand 
geben wird, denn bisher ist, zumindest mir, nichts bekannt gewesen.
(Ich kann nicht kommen, ansonsten hätte ich schon geschrieben, denn ich wurde 
bereits durch die LO-Liste auf den Termin aufmerksam.)

btw.:
was ist mit Materialien für den Stand? Wer betreut überhaupt den Stand, bisher 
gab es, wie gesagt keine Info darüber.

Wir können sicherlich einige aktuelle ProOO-Box-DVD für den Stand zur Verfügung 
stellen, Flyer könnten wir momentan wohl auch noch schaffen nachzudrucken, 
falls keine mehr da sind.   



Gruß
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issue 127553 (was: 4.1.4 show stopper!)

[Mathias Röllig]

This is a very good description. Mathias, have you already copied it to 
Bugzilla? (I've also tested with business cards, but this one looks more 
generic).


Done.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127553

But 4.1.4 isn't available for version in bugzilla. Neither as »Version« 
nor as »Latest Confirmation in«.



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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Jim Jagielski]

Lets go ahead and add those. Add the flag and request them and I'll review
and likely approve; at least we will doc them ;)

Thx!
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Am 11.10.2017 um 13:47 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Are these requested as 4.1.4 blockers in Bugz?
> 
> No.
> 
>>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> 
>>> If time permits, could you have a look at:
>>> 
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127141
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127538
>>> 
>>> Only small translation fixes, but they didn't make it into 4.1.4.
>>> 
>>> Regards, Matthias
>>> 
>>> P.S.: I am also OK, if we go "regression only" for RC5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 11.10.2017 um 13:20 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
 the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
 one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.
 
 So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?
 
 I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
 and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
 
 So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
 to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
 (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 11.10.2017 um 13:47 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
>> and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
>> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
>> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
>> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
>> start on 4.1.4-RC5
>
> Wise choice. I totally agree. This clearly supersedes my earlier
> proposal of a 4.1.4 followed by 4.1.5 next month.
>
> I would be for a quick RC5, ignoring all other issues. Vote could even
> start in less than 24 hours, if build/upload is fast.

Timing is good on my side, as I have a day of today... ;-)
But upload could take some time for Windows files.
(For the next release I plan to get a faster connection)

Regards, Matthias

>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 11.10.2017 um 13:47 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Are these requested as 4.1.4 blockers in Bugz?

No.

>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> If time permits, could you have a look at:
>>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127141
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127538
>>
>> Only small translation fixes, but they didn't make it into 4.1.4.
>>
>> Regards, Matthias
>>
>> P.S.: I am also OK, if we go "regression only" for RC5
>>
>>
>> Am 11.10.2017 um 13:20 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
>>> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
>>> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.
>>>
>>> So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?
>>>
>>> I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
>>> and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
>>>
>>> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
>>> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
>>> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
>>> start on 4.1.4-RC5
>>>
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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Jim Jagielski]

Are these requested as 4.1.4 blockers in Bugz?
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> If time permits, could you have a look at:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127141
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127538
> 
> Only small translation fixes, but they didn't make it into 4.1.4.
> 
> Regards, Matthias
> 
> P.S.: I am also OK, if we go "regression only" for RC5
> 
> 
> Am 11.10.2017 um 13:20 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
>> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
>> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.
>> 
>> So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?
>> 
>> I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
>> and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
>> 
>> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
>> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
>> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
>> start on 4.1.4-RC5
>> 
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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Andrea Pescetti]

Jim Jagielski wrote:

I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
(after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
start on 4.1.4-RC5


Wise choice. I totally agree. This clearly supersedes my earlier 
proposal of a 4.1.4 followed by 4.1.5 next month.


I would be for a quick RC5, ignoring all other issues. Vote could even 
start in less than 24 hours, if build/upload is fast.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Jim,

If time permits, could you have a look at:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127141
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127538

Only small translation fixes, but they didn't make it into 4.1.4.

Regards, Matthias

P.S.: I am also OK, if we go "regression only" for RC5


Am 11.10.2017 um 13:20 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
> the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
> one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.
>
> So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?
>
> I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
> and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.
>
> So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
> to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
> (after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
> start on 4.1.4-RC5
>
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Resolution re: 4.1.4 and 4.1.5

[Jim Jagielski]

After a night's sleep I decided that we should release
the best possible version of AOO 4.1.x as possible. Releasing
one w/ 2 known regressions just doesn't make sense.

So the remaining question was/is: What do we call it?

I decided that, procedurally, the AOO414 tag was premature,
and, as such, can be removed. I've gone ahead and done that.

So the plan is to "re-open" branches/AOO414; I will then apply
to it the 2 patches that have been applied to branches/AOO415
(after adjusting the version numbers). At that point, we can
start on 4.1.4-RC5

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Re: Keep calm and don't over-react Was: Re: 4.1.4 show stopper!

[Jim Jagielski]

As noted, the issue is that AOO414 is tagged.

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Re: Keep calm and don't over-react Was: Re: 4.1.4 show stopper!

[Pedro Lino]

Hi all

> On October 10, 2017 at 8:47 PM Jörg Schmidt  wrote:

> imho:
> Better to spend more time on a qualitatively good release than to release a 
> less good release overhasty.

+1

> Please don't forget: the quality of AOO is the main argument for many users 
> to choose AOO, especially compared to LO.

+1

> (Yes, bugfixing improves quality, but only if the technical and 
> organizational processes follow the agreed procedures.)

+1

Is the ASF process really so strict that it will force to release 4.1.4 with a 
known regression? That would be a shot in the foot for AOO. And remember, this 
is a public mailing list, so the news are already out.

4.1.4 RC4 was never released to the the public. It is Staged in Sourceforge. Is 
it not possible to go back one step and add the patch to RC5 and still release 
4.1.4?

Just my 2 cents.

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