Re: Question about 4.1.8 Release Notes

[Larry Gusaas]

On 2020-11-12 12:07 a.m., Czesław Wolański wrote:

Hi,

Release Notes: section "Known Issues" ---> "For Mac Users"
bulleted list, last item of the 2nd level:
"Due to a known bug in Oracle Java installations of Apache OpenOffice on
OSX [...]".


In 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 Release Notes that item was the main level item i.e. not
under "Apache OpenOffice 4.1.x will be flagged [...]".
It was demoted as of Release Notes for AOO 4.1.5.

In 4.1.8 Release Notes (Dutch) one can see it as the main level item.

I am macOS-illiterate.  Will "a known bug in Oracle Java installations of
Apache OpenOffice on OSX [...]"
be a reason for the Gatekeeper to flag AOO? If the answer is NO, then the
item in question should be promoted.



The Java issue is not related to Gatekeeper. It is a separate issue and should be at the main 
level.




A juxtaposition of Release Notes' excerpts is available at the following
link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QFc8eIS6hwCbzjYr3ZEOxbGSUNElw0P9/view?usp=sharing


Regards,
Czesław



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Question about 4.1.8 Release Notes

[Czesław Wolański]

Hi,

Release Notes: section "Known Issues" ---> "For Mac Users"
bulleted list, last item of the 2nd level:
"Due to a known bug in Oracle Java installations of Apache OpenOffice on
OSX [...]".


In 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 Release Notes that item was the main level item i.e. not
under "Apache OpenOffice 4.1.x will be flagged [...]".
It was demoted as of Release Notes for AOO 4.1.5.

In 4.1.8 Release Notes (Dutch) one can see it as the main level item.

I am macOS-illiterate.  Will "a known bug in Oracle Java installations of
Apache OpenOffice on OSX [...]"
be a reason for the Gatekeeper to flag AOO? If the answer is NO, then the
item in question should be promoted.

A juxtaposition of Release Notes' excerpts is available at the following
link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QFc8eIS6hwCbzjYr3ZEOxbGSUNElw0P9/view?usp=sharing


Regards,
Czesław

Re: [CMS Migration] Ready for Acceptance Testing

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

> On Nov 11, 2020, at 12:53 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave, Peter,
> 
> Am 11.11.20 um 21:45 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> Awesome Job, Dave! I really appreciate the hard work you have put into
>> this topic.
> I couldn't have said it better...
>> 
>> So next steps would be to get the
>> 
>> 1) Check for Issues
>> 
>> 2) update page towards 4.1.8

For OOo - I need to remigrate a set of pages. I’m waiting until those are 
stable.

>> 
>> 3) switch to the new system
>> 
>> in roder to finish the Migration?
> 
> I would propose to switch openoffice.apache.org first. It looks really
> identical for me and rhe risk is low.

Agreed. There is only a small thing I want to check.
> 
> Additionally I have slightly modified css, that I would like to test.

Playing with css is a perfect thing to do now. Please see it in 
theme/openoffice/static/css/openoffice.css

Learn to do it before we go live. Edit it in Github. Save. Wait one minute and 
check the staging site.


> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>> 
>> As a next step I see an inventory of the pages and get an overview on
>> the content.

Yes for the project site - oo.a.o

>> 
>> Maybe we can develop then a plan for restructuring and modernizing the
>> pages.

Let’s get switched over.

Redesigning of oo.a.o is easier than oo.o

For oo.a.o you study the /theme/openoffice/templates and css mentioned above.

For oo.o you study the /templates/ and ooo.css

>> 
>> Any other Ideas what are the next steps?

If a designer creates an html skeleton then we can make it fit the templates 
and css.

Regards,
Dave

>> 
>> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> Am 11.11.20 um 20:35 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> We have two websites using the Apache CMS which has been deprecated.
>>> 
>>> I have migrated both of these sites away from the CMS.
>>> 
>>> (1) The project website - https://openoffice.apache.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project
>>> 
>>> Staging is https://openoffice.staged.apache.org/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This site uses Pelican and Markdown. It automatically builds and
>>> pushes to staging when changes are submitted. Buildbot is used along
>>> with Infra’s preferred .asf.yaml methods.
>>> 
>>> The content is caught up to the 4.1.8 release. The README.md still
>>> needs work.
>>> 
>>> There are 46 pages and many are out of date. Committers are enabled
>>> to make edits and the site will update in less than one minute.
>>> 
>>> (2) The user site - https://www.openoffice.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org
>>> 
>>> Staging is https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This site uses JBake, Groovy, HTML, and Markdown. The README.md
>>> explains how it is built using Jenkins.
>>> 
>>> The content is not yet caught up to the 4.1.8 release.
>>> 
>>> There are approximately 20,000 pages of which about 300 are Markdown.
>>> Why and Product markdown pages should be easier to translate since
>>> the special class attributes have been removed to a post processing
>>> step.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
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Re: [CMS Migration] Ready for Acceptance Testing

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Dave, Peter,

Am 11.11.20 um 21:45 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> Awesome Job, Dave! I really appreciate the hard work you have put into
> this topic.
I couldn't have said it better...
>
> So next steps would be to get the
>
> 1) Check for Issues
>
> 2) update page towards 4.1.8
>
> 3) switch to the new system
>
> in roder to finish the Migration?

I would propose to switch openoffice.apache.org first. It looks really
identical for me and rhe risk is low.

Additionally I have slightly modified css, that I would like to test.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
>
> As a next step I see an inventory of the pages and get an overview on
> the content.
>
> Maybe we can develop then a plan for restructuring and modernizing the
> pages.
>
> Any other Ideas what are the next steps?
>
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
> Am 11.11.20 um 20:35 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> We have two websites using the Apache CMS which has been deprecated.
>>
>> I have migrated both of these sites away from the CMS.
>>
>> (1) The project website - https://openoffice.apache.org
>> 
>>
>> The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project
>> 
>> Staging is https://openoffice.staged.apache.org/
>> 
>>
>> This site uses Pelican and Markdown. It automatically builds and
>> pushes to staging when changes are submitted. Buildbot is used along
>> with Infra’s preferred .asf.yaml methods.
>>
>> The content is caught up to the 4.1.8 release. The README.md still
>> needs work.
>>
>> There are 46 pages and many are out of date. Committers are enabled
>> to make edits and the site will update in less than one minute.
>>
>> (2) The user site - https://www.openoffice.org
>> 
>>
>> The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org
>> 
>> Staging is https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>> 
>>
>> This site uses JBake, Groovy, HTML, and Markdown. The README.md
>> explains how it is built using Jenkins.
>>
>> The content is not yet caught up to the 4.1.8 release.
>>
>> There are approximately 20,000 pages of which about 300 are Markdown.
>> Why and Product markdown pages should be easier to translate since
>> the special class attributes have been removed to a post processing
>> step.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
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Re: [CMS Migration] Ready for Acceptance Testing

[Peter Kovacs]

Awesome Job, Dave! I really appreciate the hard work you have put into 
this topic.


So next steps would be to get the

1) Check for Issues

2) update page towards 4.1.8

3) switch to the new system

in roder to finish the Migration?


As a next step I see an inventory of the pages and get an overview on 
the content.


Maybe we can develop then a plan for restructuring and modernizing the 
pages.


Any other Ideas what are the next steps?


All the best

Peter

Am 11.11.20 um 20:35 schrieb Dave Fisher:

We have two websites using the Apache CMS which has been deprecated.

I have migrated both of these sites away from the CMS.

(1) The project website - https://openoffice.apache.org 


The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project 

Staging is https://openoffice.staged.apache.org/ 


This site uses Pelican and Markdown. It automatically builds and pushes to 
staging when changes are submitted. Buildbot is used along with Infra’s 
preferred .asf.yaml methods.

The content is caught up to the 4.1.8 release. The README.md still needs work.

There are 46 pages and many are out of date. Committers are enabled to make 
edits and the site will update in less than one minute.

(2) The user site - https://www.openoffice.org 

The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org 

Staging is https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org 


This site uses JBake, Groovy, HTML, and Markdown. The README.md explains how it 
is built using Jenkins.

The content is not yet caught up to the 4.1.8 release.

There are approximately 20,000 pages of which about 300 are Markdown. Why and 
Product markdown pages should be easier to translate since the special class 
attributes have been removed to a post processing step.

Regards,
Dave


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Re: Wiki Publisher

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi again,

After the release of AOO 4.1.8 it's time to bump this up:

I would like to publish our Wiki Publisher [1] as an official extension
on extensions.o.o.
Most likely I have all the needed rights but I would need some help with
setting this up.

@Andrea: Would you be available?

Regards,

   Matthias

[1] https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/wiki-publisher.oxt


Am 31.10.20 um 13:35 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi all,
>
> I can confirm that the Wiki Publisher built with AOO418-RC3 is working
> on Linux (Ubuntu 16.04-64bit) and on Windows (Win10-64bit, Win7-32bit).
>
> Joost did confirm that it was able to connect to another wiki server
> than wiki.openoffice.org.
>
> Can anyone please test it on macOS?
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
> Am 26.10.20 um 13:19 schrieb Joost Andrae:
>> Hi Matthias,
>>
>> I've just tried it out against a different MediaWiki and I can confirm
>> it is running well !
>>
>> Best regards, Joost
>>
>> Am 26.10.2020 um 00:53 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I just discovered that the Wiki Publisher we build with AOO 4.1.8 does
>>> seem to work!
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/index.php?title=Test-MS
>>>
>>> The remaining problem is that it does not get bundled with the release.
>>> I will investigate further...
>>>
>>> Can you please test:
>>>
>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/wiki-publisher.oxt
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>
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[CMS Migration] Ready for Acceptance Testing

[Dave Fisher]

We have two websites using the Apache CMS which has been deprecated.

I have migrated both of these sites away from the CMS.

(1) The project website - https://openoffice.apache.org 


The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project 

Staging is https://openoffice.staged.apache.org/ 


This site uses Pelican and Markdown. It automatically builds and pushes to 
staging when changes are submitted. Buildbot is used along with Infra’s 
preferred .asf.yaml methods.

The content is caught up to the 4.1.8 release. The README.md still needs work.

There are 46 pages and many are out of date. Committers are enabled to make 
edits and the site will update in less than one minute.

(2) The user site - https://www.openoffice.org 

The new repository is https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org 

Staging is https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org 


This site uses JBake, Groovy, HTML, and Markdown. The README.md explains how it 
is built using Jenkins.

The content is not yet caught up to the 4.1.8 release.

There are approximately 20,000 pages of which about 300 are Markdown. Why and 
Product markdown pages should be easier to translate since the special class 
attributes have been removed to a post processing step.

Regards,
Dave

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Marcus, all,

Am 11.11.20 um 10:49 schrieb Marcus:
> Also from my side a big thank you to all who are involved and have
> helped to make this release possible. :-)

Yes, a big THANKS to "those who do".

Every release is a big amount of work and it is always encouraging when
people volunteer to help!

Matthias

>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 11.11.20 um 01:24 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>> Dear OpenOffice Community,
>>
>> A great big Thank You to everyone  who has helped, tested, coded,
>> discussed or otherwise spent their precious time in making this
>> release possible !
>>
>> We couldn't do this without you.
>>
>> Please keep up the great work toward our next release!
>>
>> Carl
>> (on behalf of the OpenOffice PMC)
>>
>> On 11/10/20 6:33 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
>>> 10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office
>>> document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice
>>> 4.1.8, now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
>>>
>>> [...]
>
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RE: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 7:55 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

> > at first:
> > "a new release within the 4.1.x release branch _cannot be 
> big_ by definition of the version schema"
> > 
> > and to this I say: you are absolutely right
> > 
> > but then you write:
> > "_so_ using the word "upgrade" is not wrong."
> > 
> > and to this I say: if the change is small it would rather 
> be an "update", because "upgrade" generally applies to larger changes
> 
> Maybe because I see and understand it from the other side?

I do not want to continue this kind of discussion, because it does more harm 
than good.

I can only tell you, with a pure heart, that I would have expected only 
approval for my criticism, because I thought the use of "upgrade" was an 
mistake, but it seems that even on the question of update vs. upgrade there are 
completely contrary opinions.


Jörg


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Marcus]

Am 11.11.20 um 19:34 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
  


-Original Message-
From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:43 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

Am 11.11.20 um 14:48 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

-Original Message-
From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

-Original Message-
From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open

Source office

document productivity suite, announced today Apache

OpenOffice 4.1.8,

now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
[...]


I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an

update (and not an upgrade).

I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the

announcement as well as in the release notes.

a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by
definition of the version schema. So, so using the word
"upgrade" is not
wrong. This is my opinion.

And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference
of meaning
between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.


Good release notes, as well as good documentation and much

more are a necessary part of good software.

Why is it once again seemingly more important to reject

criticism than to take it up and consider it for the future?


I'm sorry Marcus, it's just this climate in the community

that has kept me from working more intensively for a long time.

I don't understand why you see here a bad climate.


I spoke of a climate that I do not like. And I did this because I see that 
criticism for improvement is too often understood as negative.


I don't speak for all in the project.


Have you read what you write?


no, I always don't look for my writings.
Come on. ;-)


at first:
"a new release within the 4.1.x release branch _cannot be big_ by definition of the 
version schema"

and to this I say: you are absolutely right

but then you write:
"_so_ using the word "upgrade" is not wrong."

and to this I say: if the change is small it would rather be an "update", because 
"upgrade" generally applies to larger changes


Maybe because I see and understand it from the other side?

Also Wikipedia explains the difference between "update" and "upgrade" in 
this direction (sorry, only in German):


https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upgrade#Unterschied_zwischen_Upgrade,_Update_und_Downgrade

But I don't claim that Wikipedia is always right. Nor my opitions.

Marcus


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Reporting broken download link

[Γιώργος Κωστόπουλος]

DEB x64 (el) can't be downloaded.
I'm getting a 502 message: "Bad Gateway", at SF.NET.
Other files (eg. RPMs), don't have this problem.
I tried several times today, but to not avail.

Bye!  :-)
G.


Problem descriptionExchange this text to describe the problem

(What does not work? What do you expect?)
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navigator.platform Linux x86_64
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navigator.vendor
navigator.vendorSub
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navigator.browserLanguage undefined
navigator.userLanguage undefined
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navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:82.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/82.0
Debian / Ubuntu / IceWeasel ?No / No / No
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URL platform name (from select box) lnx64d
Version (from select box) 4.1.8
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Base URL to SourceForge.net
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RE: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Jörg Schmidt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 5:43 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
> 
> Am 11.11.20 um 14:48 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:51 AM
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
> >>
> >> Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
>  To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>  Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
> 
>  10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open
> >> Source office
>  document productivity suite, announced today Apache
> >> OpenOffice 4.1.8,
>  now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
>  [...]
> >>>
> >>> I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an
> >> update (and not an upgrade).
> >>> I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the
> >> announcement as well as in the release notes.
> >>
> >> a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by
> >> definition of the version schema. So, so using the word
> >> "upgrade" is not
> >> wrong. This is my opinion.
> >>
> >> And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference
> >> of meaning
> >> between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.
> > 
> > Good release notes, as well as good documentation and much 
> more are a necessary part of good software.
> > Why is it once again seemingly more important to reject 
> criticism than to take it up and consider it for the future?
> > 
> > I'm sorry Marcus, it's just this climate in the community 
> that has kept me from working more intensively for a long time.
> 
> I don't understand why you see here a bad climate.

I spoke of a climate that I do not like. And I did this because I see that 
criticism for improvement is too often understood as negative.

> I don't speak for all in the project.

Have you read what you write?

at first:
"a new release within the 4.1.x release branch _cannot be big_ by definition of 
the version schema"

and to this I say: you are absolutely right 

but then you write:
"_so_ using the word "upgrade" is not wrong."

and to this I say: if the change is small it would rather be an "update", 
because "upgrade" generally applies to larger changes



Jörg




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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias, all

> On 11/11/2020 4:41 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> May be a matter of time?

Yes, let's hope so. But I expect that 6 days should be enough to synchronize 
more than one mirror.

Regarding Microsoft's bad will, I think this is a little too much

https://i.imgur.com/dTZVLcK.png

It's in Portuguese but the message should be understandable. Even if The ASF is 
recognized as the Publisher, it still warns you and asks if you want to execute 
the installer because the application is NOT recognized and could harm the 
user's system???

Do we have to pay Microsoft to put it in the Windows Store???

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Marcus]

Am 11.11.20 um 17:41 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Am 11.11.20 um 17:37 schrieb Marcus:

Am 11.11.20 um 17:26 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 11/11/2020 3:54 PM Matthias Seidel 
wrote:


I can't believe that after all the effort this release is going to
fall short because Sourceforge doesn't have the servers.

Currently the only options available are

  Auto-select
  SourceForge (San Diego, California, US)

You can't even choose the mirror manually!


wow, thats not good. Previously we had 12 (?) mirrors. So, the
availability was much, much better. Now it's a kind of lottery if you
get the download file.


I get only 1 mirror with every file I look at...

With 4.1.7 it scaled up to 28 mirrors for some files.

May be a matter of time?


hm, then SF needs a longer time than for previous releases.

@Dave:
Can you help us here? What can we do to improve the situation?

Thanks

Marcus


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Marcus]

Am 11.11.20 um 14:48 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

-Original Message-
From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:51 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

-Original Message-
From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open

Source office

document productivity suite, announced today Apache

OpenOffice 4.1.8,

now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
[...]


I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an

update (and not an upgrade).

I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the

announcement as well as in the release notes.

a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by
definition of the version schema. So, so using the word
"upgrade" is not
wrong. This is my opinion.

And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference
of meaning
between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.


Good release notes, as well as good documentation and much more are a necessary 
part of good software.
Why is it once again seemingly more important to reject criticism than to take 
it up and consider it for the future?

I'm sorry Marcus, it's just this climate in the community that has kept me from 
working more intensively for a long time.


I don't understand why you see here a bad climate.

It's just that I (as a single person!) don't share your opinion. Not 
more and not less.


I don't speak for all in the project. So, when we all agree that the 
wording shuld be improved, we can of course change it for the next release.


Marcus


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Marcus,

Am 11.11.20 um 17:37 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 11.11.20 um 17:26 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>> On 11/11/2020 3:54 PM Matthias Seidel 
>>> wrote:
>>
>> I can't believe that after all the effort this release is going to
>> fall short because Sourceforge doesn't have the servers.
>>
>> Currently the only options available are
>>
>>  Auto-select
>>  SourceForge (San Diego, California, US)
>>
>> You can't even choose the mirror manually!
>
> wow, thats not good. Previously we had 12 (?) mirrors. So, the
> availability was much, much better. Now it's a kind of lottery if you
> get the download file.

I get only 1 mirror with every file I look at...

With 4.1.7 it scaled up to 28 mirrors for some files.

May be a matter of time?

Matthias

>
> Marcus
>
>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Marcus]

Am 11.11.20 um 17:26 schrieb Pedro Lino:

On 11/11/2020 3:54 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:


I can't believe that after all the effort this release is going to fall short 
because Sourceforge doesn't have the servers.

Currently the only options available are

 Auto-select
 SourceForge (San Diego, California, US)

You can't even choose the mirror manually!


wow, thats not good. Previously we had 12 (?) mirrors. So, the 
availability was much, much better. Now it's a kind of lottery if you 
get the download file.


Marcus


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

Am 11.11.20 um 17:32 schrieb Bidouille:
> Thanks all team for this job
> Is it possible to update french homepage with this news?
> https://fr.openoffice.org
> https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_11/JKlqGvF0dKY_Capture.PNG

Just one minute... ;-)

Matthias

>
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Pedro Lino" 
>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Novembre 2020 17:26:19
>> Objet: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
>>
>> Hi Matthias, all
>>
>>> On 11/11/2020 3:54 PM Matthias Seidel 
>>> wrote:
>>> That's not new with files downloaded from the Internet.
>>> But somehow I did hope that the ASF certificate would silence
>>> SmartScreen... ;-)
>> It does. At least on the PC I managed to test this.
>> I can't believe that after all the effort this release is going to
>> fall short because Sourceforge doesn't have the servers.
>>
>> Currently the only options available are
>>
>> Auto-select
>> SourceForge (San Diego, California, US)
>>
>> You can't even choose the mirror manually!
>>
>>> However, SmartScreen [1] is a cloud based service , the more people
>>> download a file and open it the more "reputation" it gets.
>> You forgot to mention: the more people download it successfully on
>> Windows 10 (which is not so easy, with the obstacles mentioned)
>> hopefully the more Good reputation it gets!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Pedro
>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Bidouille]

Thanks all team for this job
Is it possible to update french homepage with this news?
https://fr.openoffice.org
https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_11/JKlqGvF0dKY_Capture.PNG

- Mail original -
> De: "Pedro Lino" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Mercredi 11 Novembre 2020 17:26:19
> Objet: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
> 
> Hi Matthias, all
> 
> > On 11/11/2020 3:54 PM Matthias Seidel 
> > wrote:
> 
> > That's not new with files downloaded from the Internet.
> > But somehow I did hope that the ASF certificate would silence
> > SmartScreen... ;-)
> 
> It does. At least on the PC I managed to test this.
> I can't believe that after all the effort this release is going to
> fall short because Sourceforge doesn't have the servers.
> 
> Currently the only options available are
> 
> Auto-select
> SourceForge (San Diego, California, US)
> 
> You can't even choose the mirror manually!
> 
> > 
> > However, SmartScreen [1] is a cloud based service , the more people
> > download a file and open it the more "reputation" it gets.
> 
> You forgot to mention: the more people download it successfully on
> Windows 10 (which is not so easy, with the obstacles mentioned)
> hopefully the more Good reputation it gets!
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Marcus]

Am 11.11.20 um 17:31 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:


Previous release took about 24 hours to propagate to all the servers worldwide.


the initial upload was on 05th / 06th November, so already far above of 
24 hours. ;-)


Marcus


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Rory O'Farrell]

Previous release took about 24 hours to propagate to all the servers worldwide.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Pedro Lino]

Hi Matthias, all

> On 11/11/2020 3:54 PM Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> That's not new with files downloaded from the Internet.
> But somehow I did hope that the ASF certificate would silence
> SmartScreen... ;-)

It does. At least on the PC I managed to test this.
I can't believe that after all the effort this release is going to fall short 
because Sourceforge doesn't have the servers.

Currently the only options available are

Auto-select
SourceForge (San Diego, California, US)

You can't even choose the mirror manually!

> 
> However, SmartScreen [1] is a cloud based service , the more people
> download a file and open it the more "reputation" it gets.

You forgot to mention: the more people download it successfully on Windows 10 
(which is not so easy, with the obstacles mentioned) hopefully the more Good 
reputation it gets!

Regards,
Pedro

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Reporting broken download link

[Björn Dammann]

I tried to download via sourceforge ( 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.8/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Win_x86_install_de.exe/download 
), but there is only one mirror which results in:


502 Bad Gateway
nginx

Windows (EXE)
Deutsch
4.1.8

*Problembeschreibung*   *Ersetze diesen Text und beschreibe das Problem

(Was funktioniert nicht? Was wird erwartet?)*
*Browser Variablen* *Werte*
navigator.appCodeName   Mozilla
navigator.appName   Netscape
navigator.appVersion 	5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) 
AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/86.0.4240.183 Safari/537.36

navigator.platform  Win32
navigator.oscpu undefined
navigator.cpuClass  undefined
navigator.product   Gecko
navigator.productSub20030107
navigator.vendorGoogle Inc.
navigator.vendorSub 
navigator.language  de-DE
navigator.browserLanguage   undefined
navigator.userLanguage  undefined
navigator.systemLanguageundefined
navigator.userAgent 	Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) 
AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/86.0.4240.183 Safari/537.36

Debian / Ubuntu / IceWeasel ?   Nein / Nein / Nein
*Stabiles Release*  
*JavaScript Funktionen/Variablen*   *Werte*
Language ISO code   de
Language ISO code (from select box) de
Release matrix platform position (full) 11
Release matrix platform position (lp)   12
Release matrix platform array data  y,157
Release matrix language array data 
de,German,Deutsch,y,de/downloads/index.html

UI platform nameWindows (EXE)
UI platform name (not supported)
Platform (short)win32
URL platform name (full)Win_x86_install
URL platform name (lp)  Win_x86_langpack
URL platform name (from select box) win32
Version (from select box)   4.1.8
File name (full)Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Win_x86_install_de.exe
File name (lp)  Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Win_x86_langpack_de.exe
File extension  .exe
File size (full) (MB)   157
File size (lp) (MB) 19
Release info 	Milestone AOO418m3 | Build ID 9803 | Git hash 18848f57b6 | 
Veröffentlicht 2020-11-10
Download file link (full) 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.8/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Win_x86_install_de.exe/download 

Download file link (lp) 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.8/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Win_x86_langpack_de.exe/download 

Checksum file link (full) (SHA256) 
https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.8/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Win_x86_install_de.exe.sha256 

Checksum file link (lp) (SHA256) 
https://downloads.apache.org/openoffice/4.1.8/binaries/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.8_Win_x86_langpack_de.exe.sha256 

Base URL to SourceForge.net 
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.8/binaries/
Base URL to Apache Archive 
https://archive.apache.org/dist/openoffice/4.1.8

getLinkSelection() (download URL)   undefined
isLanguageSupported() (true/false) ?true
Show the sub-box (true/false) ? true
General error (true/false) ?false

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20357 Hamburg

h...@bjoern-d.de
https://bjoern-d.de

Cannot download open Office

[Harry Moore]

>From h...@telus.net

 

Trying to download open office but get following message;  Using firefox and
Win 10 

 

502 Bad Gateway

  _  

nginx

 

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi,

Am 11.11.20 um 16:45 schrieb Fernando Cassia:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 12:00 Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>
>> I posted a tweet from our official twitter account.
>>
> Congrats for this release.
> You might want to know that MSFT is back to its dirty tricks and prevents
> the signed installer from running, courtesy of "Smartscreen" part of
> "Microsoft Defender".
>
> I've posted a tweet with screenshots
>
> https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1326340013190221826?s=19
>
> It's obvious that hiding the "run anyway" button behind a second click on
> "more info" has the intent of people giving up, be scared, and not run it.
That's not new with files downloaded from the Internet.
But somehow I did hope that the ASF certificate would silence
SmartScreen... ;-)

However, SmartScreen [1] is a cloud based service , the more people
download a file and open it the more "reputation" it gets.

Regards,

   Matthias

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_SmartScreen#Windows

>
> FC
>
>>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 -Original Message-
 From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:51 AM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

 Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
>>
>> 10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open
 Source office
>> document productivity suite, announced today Apache
 OpenOffice 4.1.8,
>> now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
>> [...]
> I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an
 update (and not an upgrade).
> I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the
 announcement as well as in the release notes.

 a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by
 definition of the version schema. So, so using the word
 "upgrade" is not
 wrong. This is my opinion.

 And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference
 of meaning
 between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.
>>> Good release notes, as well as good documentation and much more are a
>> necessary part of good software.
>>> Why is it once again seemingly more important to reject criticism than
>> to take it up and consider it for the future?
>>> I'm sorry Marcus, it's just this climate in the community that has kept
>> me from working more intensively for a long time.
 Feel free to use the respective wording in the German version. :-)
>>> yes, I had already done that
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jörg
>>>
>>>
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Fernando Cassia]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020, 12:00 Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> I posted a tweet from our official twitter account.
>

Congrats for this release.
You might want to know that MSFT is back to its dirty tricks and prevents
the signed installer from running, courtesy of "Smartscreen" part of
"Microsoft Defender".

I've posted a tweet with screenshots

https://twitter.com/fcassia/status/1326340013190221826?s=19

It's obvious that hiding the "run anyway" button behind a second click on
"more info" has the intent of people giving up, be scared, and not run it.

FC

>
> > On Nov 11, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:51 AM
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
> >>
> >> Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>  -Original Message-
>  From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
>  To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>  Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
> 
>  10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open
> >> Source office
>  document productivity suite, announced today Apache
> >> OpenOffice 4.1.8,
>  now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
>  [...]
> >>>
> >>> I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an
> >> update (and not an upgrade).
> >>> I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the
> >> announcement as well as in the release notes.
> >>
> >> a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by
> >> definition of the version schema. So, so using the word
> >> "upgrade" is not
> >> wrong. This is my opinion.
> >>
> >> And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference
> >> of meaning
> >> between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.
> >
> > Good release notes, as well as good documentation and much more are a
> necessary part of good software.
> > Why is it once again seemingly more important to reject criticism than
> to take it up and consider it for the future?
> >
> > I'm sorry Marcus, it's just this climate in the community that has kept
> me from working more intensively for a long time.
> >
> >> Feel free to use the respective wording in the German version. :-)
> >
> > yes, I had already done that
> >
> >
> >
> > Jörg
> >
> >
> > -
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Re: svn commit: r1883306 - /openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/lt/index.html

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Aivaras,

/"2020 m. spalio 15 d."/

/Is this right?/

/We released on November 10th.
/

//Regards,//

//   Matthias
//

Am 11.11.20 um 15:23 schrieb astepuko...@apache.org:
> Author: astepukonis
> Date: Wed Nov 11 14:23:06 2020
> New Revision: 1883306
>
> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1883306&view=rev
> Log:
> Edited links.
>
> Modified:
> openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/lt/index.html
>
> Modified: openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/lt/index.html
> URL: 
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/lt/index.html?rev=1883306&r1=1883305&r2=1883306&view=diff
> ==
> --- openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/lt/index.html (original)
> +++ openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/lt/index.html Wed Nov 11 14:23:06 2020
> @@ -124,11 +124,11 @@
>   
>Išleistas „Apache OpenOffice“ 
> 4.1.8
> 2020 m. spalio 15 d.:
> - „Apache OpenOffice“ projektas praneša apie ką tik 
> išėjusią tarnybinę
> + „Apache OpenOffice“ projektas praneša apie ką tik 
> išėjusią tarnybinę laidą 
>href="https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffice-4-14";
> -  title="Tarnybinio tinklaraščio pranešimas apie 
> „Apache OpenOffice“ laidą 4.1.8">laidą 4.1.8.
> -  href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.8+Release+Notes";
> -  title="„Apache OpenOffice“ laidos 4.1.8 
> informacija">Laidos apžvalgoje galima susipažinti su naujomis 
> priemonėmis,
> +  title="Tarnybinio tinklaraščio pranešimas apie 
> „Apache OpenOffice“ laidą 4.1.8">4.1.8.
> + Laidos  href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.8+Release+Notes";
> +  title="„Apache OpenOffice“ laidos 4.1.8 
> informacija">apžvalgoje galima susipažinti su naujomis priemonėmis,
>   funkcijomis ir kalbomis. Nepamirškite  href="https://www.openoffice.org/lt/download/";
>title="Gauti „Apache OpenOffice“ 4.1.8">gauti 
> ir tiesiogiai išmėginti naujosios laidos.
>DĖMESIO! Šioje laidoje įdiegtas naujas lietuvių 
> kalbos žodynas. Atnaujinus programą, senąjį žodyną būtina išdiegti,
> @@ -139,11 +139,11 @@
>   
>Išleistas „Apache OpenOffice“ 4.1.7
> 2019 m. rugsėjo 21 d.:
> - „Apache OpenOffice“ projektas praneša apie ką tik 
> išėjusią tarnybinę
> + „Apache OpenOffice“ projektas praneša apie ką tik 
> išėjusią tarnybinę laidą 
>href="https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffice-4-13";
> -  title="Tarnybinio tinklaraščio pranešimas apie 
> „Apache OpenOffice“ laidą 4.1.7">laidą 4.1.7.
> -  href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.7+Release+Notes";
> -  title="„Apache OpenOffice“ laidos 4.1.7 
> informacija">Laidos apžvalgoje galima susipažinti su naujomis 
> priemonėmis,
> +  title="Tarnybinio tinklaraščio pranešimas apie 
> „Apache OpenOffice“ laidą 4.1.7">4.1.7.
> + Laidos  href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.7+Release+Notes";
> +  title="„Apache OpenOffice“ laidos 4.1.7 
> informacija">apžvalgoje galima susipažinti su naujomis priemonėmis,
>   funkcijomis ir kalbomis. Nepamirškite  href="https://www.openoffice.org/lt/download/";
>title="Gauti „Apache OpenOffice“ 4.1.7">gauti 
> ir tiesiogiai išmėginti naujosios laidos.
> 
> @@ -152,11 +152,11 @@
>   
>Išleistas „Apache OpenOffice“ 4.1.6
> 2018 m. lapkričio 18 d.:
> - „Apache OpenOffice“ projektas praneša apie ką tik 
> išėjusią tarnybinę
> + „Apache OpenOffice“ projektas praneša apie ką tik 
> išėjusią tarnybinę laidą 
>href="https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/announcing-apache-openoffice-4-12";
> -  title="Tarnybinio tinklaraščio pranešimas apie 
> „Apache OpenOffice“ laidą 4.1.6">laidą 4.1.6.
> -  href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.6+Release+Notes";
> -  title="„Apache OpenOffice“ laidos 4.1.6 
> informacija">Laidos apžvalgoje galima susipažinti su naujomis 
> priemonėmis,
> +  title="Tarnybinio tinklaraščio pranešimas apie 
> „Apache OpenOffice“ laidą 4.1.6">4.1.6.
> + Laidos  href="https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.6+Release+Notes";
> + 

Re: [OPINION VOTE] CentOS7 or Ubuntu 14.04

[Jim Jagielski]

I am also re-leaning back to being super OK w/ CentOS7. After all, we've 
already been using it for various 4.2.0-dev builds.

Also, I am not really all that worried about using old, deprecated, EOL 
platforms *as community build servers*. The goal for those builds is that they 
support as large and as wide (and as old, reasonably) set of users as possible. 
So what if the build servers are old... they are just build servers. We aren't 
running them as anything else. So what if the versions of gcc are old, for 
example? As long as the binaries produced still run OK on old and new 
platforms, what's the problem?

And again, I am fine with us producing 2 sets of Linux community builds: one 
for "legacy" users, using CentOS7, and one for "current" users using CentOS8 
(or some current flavor of Ubuntu). The latter would, of course, be 64bit only. 
I don't mind the additional workload if it helps our community.

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> Jim Jagielski wrote:
>> Cast your vote:
>>   [X]   CentOS7
>>   [ ]   Ubuntu 14.04
>>   [ ]   Something else: 
> 
> CentOS 7 builds will run under Ubuntu 13.x too. While CentOS 7 32-bit would 
> be unsupported, the 64-bit version would receive maintenance until 2024; 
> Ubuntu 14.04, instead, is already unsupported both in 32-bit and 64-bit.
> 
> EPEL unavailability for 32-bit might be an issue though.
> 
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Jim Jagielski]

I posted a tweet from our official twitter account.

> On Nov 11, 2020, at 8:48 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:51 AM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
>> 
>> Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
 -Original Message-
 From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
 
 10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open 
>> Source office
 document productivity suite, announced today Apache 
>> OpenOffice 4.1.8,
 now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
 [...]
>>> 
>>> I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an 
>> update (and not an upgrade).
>>> I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the 
>> announcement as well as in the release notes.
>> 
>> a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by 
>> definition of the version schema. So, so using the word 
>> "upgrade" is not 
>> wrong. This is my opinion.
>> 
>> And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference 
>> of meaning 
>> between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.
> 
> Good release notes, as well as good documentation and much more are a 
> necessary part of good software.
> Why is it once again seemingly more important to reject criticism than to 
> take it up and consider it for the future?
> 
> I'm sorry Marcus, it's just this climate in the community that has kept me 
> from working more intensively for a long time. 
> 
>> Feel free to use the respective wording in the German version. :-)
> 
> yes, I had already done that
> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
> 
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RE: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Jörg Schmidt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:51 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
> 
> Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released
> >>
> >> 10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open 
> Source office
> >> document productivity suite, announced today Apache 
> OpenOffice 4.1.8,
> >> now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
> >> [...]
> > 
> > I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an 
> update (and not an upgrade).
> > I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the 
> announcement as well as in the release notes.
> 
> a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by 
> definition of the version schema. So, so using the word 
> "upgrade" is not 
> wrong. This is my opinion.
> 
> And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference 
> of meaning 
> between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.

Good release notes, as well as good documentation and much more are a necessary 
part of good software.
Why is it once again seemingly more important to reject criticism than to take 
it up and consider it for the future?

I'm sorry Marcus, it's just this climate in the community that has kept me from 
working more intensively for a long time. 

> Feel free to use the respective wording in the German version. :-)

yes, I had already done that



Jörg


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RE: Questions about the release notes

[Jörg Schmidt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 10:56 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Questions about the release notes


> > 2.
> > Who can say something about the entry "AOO Writer - 
> Spellchecker: glitch"?
> > Is this really a new spell checker?
> > Is it really only available under Writer?
> 
> The involved people are listed in the BZ issue:
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128296

oh dear ... I suspected, based on the release notes, there would be a new spell 
checker (= a new spell checking engine) in Writer - i.e. I assumed that the 
name(!) of this spell check engine would be "Glitch".

Thanks for the clarification.



Jörg


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Re: Questions about the release notes

[Marcus]

Am 11.11.20 um 09:27 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

I started with a German translation of the release note, but I have the 
following questions:

1.
Are there any new dictionaries?
(The statements under "Improvements/Enhancements" and "Language Support" seem 
to be contradictory to each other).


to make it short: no

But for me it's clear. Here the text in a condensed form:

Improvements/Enhancements
- Updated dictionaries

Language Support
New and Updated Translations
- There are no new or updated languages.

New and Updated Dictionaries
New Dictionaries
- There are no new dictionaries

Updated Dictionaries
- Asturian (ast)
- Danish (da)
- English (en-GB)
- Lithuanian (lt)


2.
Who can say something about the entry "AOO Writer - Spellchecker: glitch"?
Is this really a new spell checker?
Is it really only available under Writer?


The involved people are listed in the BZ issue:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128296

Marcus


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Marcus]

Am 11.11.20 um 08:49 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

-Original Message-
From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:34 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office
document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8,
now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.
[...]


I think it is absolutely obvious that version 4.1.8 is an update (and not an 
upgrade).
I don't understand why this is wrongly labeled in the announcement as well as 
in the release notes.


a new release within the 4.1.x release branch cannot be big by 
definition of the version schema. So, so using the word "upgrade" is not 
wrong. This is my opinion.


And to be honest, I don't see a problem here. The difference of meaning 
between "update" and "upgrade" is not really big.


Feel free to use the respective wording in the German version. :-)

Marcus


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 released

[Marcus]

Also from my side a big thank you to all who are involved and have 
helped to make this release possible. :-)


Marcus



Am 11.11.20 um 01:24 schrieb Carl Marcum:

Dear OpenOffice Community,

A great big Thank You to everyone  who has helped, tested, coded, 
discussed or otherwise spent their precious time in making this release 
possible !


We couldn't do this without you.

Please keep up the great work toward our next release!

Carl
(on behalf of the OpenOffice PMC)

On 11/10/20 6:33 PM, Carl Marcum wrote:
10 November 2020 - Apache OpenOffice, the leading Open Source office 
document productivity suite, announced today Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8, 
now available in 41 languages on Windows, macOS and Linux.


[...]



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Re: [CVE-2020-13958] Apache OpenOffice - Unrestricted actions leads to arbitrary code execution in crafted documents

[Marcus]

Am 11.11.20 um 10:06 schrieb Alain DUFOUR:

Can I take this mail for the opportunity to make a suggestion of including
.docx in the compatible formats in Writer. It is very often that we receive


I would like to ask you to write a new mail to dev@ with your wish. Then 
we can better inact. This mail thread is about a fixed security issues 
which is for sure not related to import/export .docx files. ;-)


Thanks for your understanding.

Marcus


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Re: [CVE-2020-13958] Apache OpenOffice - Unrestricted actions leads to arbitrary code execution in crafted documents

[Alain DUFOUR]

Hello from GB

I am sorry to disturb you with a subject which is probably not what you are 
after at the moment

Found you in the development section.
My question is worth considering and forwarding to the ad hoc development 
team.


Congratulation to the extraordinary achievement of 300 M + downloads

Can I take this mail for the opportunity to make a suggestion of including
.docx in the compatible formats in Writer. It is very often that we receive
this format from people and the conversion to .doc Microsoft 97/2000/XP
(which is the nearest format available) is not right and produce some
glitches.

It might be some work until that is possible, but it is to be considered as
a major positive point for MS users to rejoin our community.
I would be glad if you forward this request to the development team who is
in charge.

Also recommend them to carry on testing compatibility with using Windows as
I had a major freezing - making the cursor disappear and all functions
inoperative – not identified the cause and needed a full re-installation 
from scratch (very

unfortunate)

Congratulation again

Alain Dufour
A user for many years and a believer in free source

-Message d'origine- 
From: Dave Fisher

Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2020 12:35 AM
To: annou...@apache.org ; secur...@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: annou...@openoffice.apache.org ; dev ; Imre Rad
Subject: [CVE-2020-13958] Apache OpenOffice - Unrestricted actions leads to 
arbitrary code execution in crafted documents


CVE-2020-13958 Unrestricted actions leads to arbitrary code execution in 
crafted documents


Fixed in Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8

Description

A vulnerability in Apache OpenOffice scripting events allows an attacker to 
construct
documents containing hyperlinks pointing to an executable on the target 
users file system.
These hyperlinks can be triggered unconditionally. In fixed versions no 
internal protocol
may be called from the document event handler and other hyperlinks require a 
control-click.


Severity: Low

There are no known exploits of this vulnerability.
A proof-of-concept demonstration exists.

Vendor: The Apache Software Foundation

Versions Affected

Apache OpenOffice 4.0.0, 4.0.1, 4.1.0, 4.1.1, 4.1.2, 4.1.3, 4.1.4, 4.1.5, 
4.1.6, and 4.1.7

OpenOffice.org versions may also be affected.

Mitigation

Install Apache OpenOffice 4.1.8 for the latest maintenance and cumulative 
security fixes.
Use the Apache OpenOffice download page 
(https://www.openoffice.org/download/).


Acknowledgments

The Apache OpenOffice Security Team would like to thank Imre Rad for 
discovering and

reporting this attack vector.

Further Information

For additional information and assistance, consult the Apache OpenOffice 
Community Forums
(https://forum.openoffice.org) or make requests to the 
us...@openoffice.apache.org

(mailto:us...@openoffice.apache.org) public mailing list.

The latest information on Apache OpenOffice security bulletins can be found 
at the
Bulletin Archive page (https://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin.html). 



--
L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel 
antivirus Avast.
https://www.avast.com/antivirus


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Questions about the release notes

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello,

I started with a German translation of the release note, but I have the 
following questions:

1.
Are there any new dictionaries?
(The statements under "Improvements/Enhancements" and "Language Support" seem 
to be contradictory to each other).

2.
Who can say something about the entry "AOO Writer - Spellchecker: glitch"?
Is this really a new spell checker? 
Is it really only available under Writer?


greetings,
Jörg



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