When will the blog post be published?

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello,

Am I overlooking the publication of the blog post or is it still unpublished?

imho: 
Dave said it correctly in his email that the consensus was to publish the blog 
post first (and work on the new release in parallel):

"I think that there is consensus to publish the blog post by Monday.

After that it will be time to start preparing 4.1.9 release notes."


Or does that no longer apply? Why?


Jörg


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Whre is the _actuell_ test-Build

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello,

I had just promised Dave to link the latest test build of AOO 4.1.9 for MacOS 
in the forum.

Can someone please give me the current link for this?



Jörg


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

RE: Happy new year!

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.sei...@hamburg.de] 
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 11:06 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Happy new year!
> 
> Happy new year to all of you!
> 
> Let's make 2021 a great year for Apache OpenOffice!

Happy New Year to all and to you too.

Let's put the interests of our users in the center. 

Especially in Germany, a lot of things will change in public IT in the next few 
years.[1] 
But AOO is not there yet, what was once a matter of course for OpenOffice.org, 
we are working on that sivch change.

greetings,
Jörg


[1]
I recommend the overview article of C't as information (unfortunately with 
costs):
https://www.heise.de/select/ct/2020/19/2014907275841187883

I refer e.g. to the project "Phoenix":
https://www.dataport.de/was-wir-bewegen/portfolio/projekt-phoenix/
It would be good if OpenOffice would be involved in such projects again, like 
OOo once was. 



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

RE: My last advance notice regarding Big Sur (was: What we should do now)

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2020 8:17 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: My last advance notice regarding Big Sur (was: 
> What we should do now)
> 
> Please stop calling 4.1.9 a patch. 

Yes, all right

> It is a release which has 
> fixes including the one for the BigSur issue. We are 
> following the same process we did for 4.1.8 which was 
> released less than two months ago. That release took about a 
> month to work through all issues in the RCs.

> This community effort to do a release shortly after the prior 
> is an impressive accomplishment for the project. Consider 
> that we have released about a year or two apart the last 
> several years.

I think that eliminating one's own mistakes is a matter of course that does not 
need many words.

> The proposed language for the blog post exists on the cwiki. 
> Have you looked at it? 

Of course I took a look at it, because I was thrilled by Peter's quick response 
to my inquiry.

> I think that there is consensus to publish the blog post by Monday.

That would have been nice, but again nothing happened. Or am I overlooking the 
publication of the blog post?

In any case, there is already a new request from an affected user in our forum?
How long do we want to leave our users without information?


> 
> After that it will be time to start preparing 4.1.9 release notes.
> 
> Have you informed your users about Jim’s test build? Testing 
> sooner allows releasing sooner.

I didn't do that after Peter accused me of writing "toxic mail" and I had to 
fear that any unauthorized publication of information would be interpreted 
negatively.

I will make up for it immediately, trusting that this will not be interpreted 
negagtiv.



gretings,
Jörg


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

"convert' pdf images in Draw

[Mechtilde]

Hello Marcia,

Am 06.01.21 um 00:20 schrieb marcia wilbur:
> Hi.
> 
> Do we have a feature to open PDFs in Draw?
> I tried. All I had was characters. Am I doing something wrong or do we not 
> have "open PDF as images in Draw".

Yes we have this feature as an extension. I tried to build it from 4.2.x
branch.

You can get it from http://home.apache.org/~mechtilde/Tools/ and test it.

> 
> I have gs and imagemagick - was able to convert the same PDF at the shell 
> with convert... So, is it a config or not a feature yet?
> 
> also, i couldn't login to requests so, I'm asking here.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Marcia

Kind regards

-- 
Mechtilde Stehmann
## Apache OpenOffice
## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows und OS/2
## Debian Developer
## PGP encryption welcome
## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899  39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F





OpenPGP_signature
Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Leonard Fogli]

Estoy de acuerdo

El mar., 5 de enero de 2021 6:29 a. m., Jim Jagielski 
escribió:

> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>
> > On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> >
> > The AOO419 branch has been created.
> > The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> > The Release Status page has been cloned:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> >
>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>
>

"convert' pdf images in Draw

[marcia wilbur]

Hi.

Do we have a feature to open PDFs in Draw?
I tried. All I had was characters. Am I doing something wrong or do we not have 
"open PDF as images in Draw".

I have gs and imagemagick - was able to convert the same PDF at the shell with 
convert... So, is it a config or not a feature yet?

also, i couldn't login to requests so, I'm asking here.


Thanks,
Marcia

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/5/2021 12:46 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>>
 On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
 I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:

 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
 
>>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
>>
>> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> 
> I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> the problem.
> 
> I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
> 
>> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> 
> I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> References:
> 
> 1: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
> 
Arrigio;

There is a lot of QA information on the wiki at:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. A lot of the information is either
dated, or obsolete but there is still much good information that can be
used.

Regards
Keith




signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 1/5/2021 7:29 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> 

It appears that we are ready and should go ahead and plan for next week.
regards
Keith

>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>
>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>




signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Documenting what I'm learning

[Steve Lubbs]

Thanks Patricia. From my former life I have a pretty good background in 
threading and concurrency myself. What I'm doing currently is chasing 
down who's doing what and where they're doing it WRT concurrency and 
threading, documenting in UML as I go. I won't hesitate to reach out to 
you if I feel can use some help.


Thanks,

Steve

On 1/3/21 4:20 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote:

Health permitting I may be able to help with this. I used to help develop, 
test, and debug multiprocessor servers so I have spent a lot of time thinking 
about concurrency correctness and performance.

Patricia


On Dec 30, 2020, at 17:02, Steve Lubbs  wrote:

Hi All,

I've been spending quite a bit of time reverse engineering the threading and 
concurrency implementation and with an eye towards possible errors. I'm 
documenting what I find as I go with the hope that it'll be useful to others as 
well as myself. I'm not a UML expert by a long shot but I think I can use it 
well enough so it'll be useful.

So if you don't here from me for a while it's not because I've left. I just 
have my head down.

BTW, I'm going to see if Umbrello is useful for this.

Steve Lubbs


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Arrigo,

Am 05.01.21 um 18:46 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
> Hello All,
>
> On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
 On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:

 Hi Jim,

 Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
 I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:

 https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
 
>>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>>>
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
>> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> the problem.
>
> I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
>
>> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.

I don't know if we have any procedures, but you can always download,
install and test the build against regressions...

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-419-Test/

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Best regards.
>
> References:
>
> 1: 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello All,

On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:

> Hi Jim,
> 
> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >
> >> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> >> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> >>
> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
> >> 
> > This was handled by making fakeroot required:
> >
> > 
> > https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
> 
> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?

I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
the problem.

I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.

> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.

I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.

Best regards.

References:

1: 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
-- 
Arrigo

http://rigo.altervista.org

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Jim,

Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>
>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
>>
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
>> 
> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
>
> 
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806

OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?

And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.

>
>> And how about the logos? Leave the anniversary edition or revert?
> I think we all agreed to revert.

OK, then I will go ahead.

Matthias

>
>> Other than that, next week would be OK for me.
>>
>> Matthias
>>
 On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

 The AOO419 branch has been created.
 The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
 The Release Status page has been cloned: 
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
 -
 To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
 For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

>>> -
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 
>>> 
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org 
>>> 



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
> 
> I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
> 

This was handled by making fakeroot required:


https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806

> 
> And how about the logos? Leave the anniversary edition or revert?

I think we all agreed to revert.

> 
> Other than that, next week would be OK for me.
> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>>> -
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>> 
>> 
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 
>> 
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org 
>> 

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Jim,

Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Should we try for a RC1 early next week?

I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413

And how about the logos? Leave the anniversary edition or revert?

Other than that, next week would be OK for me.

Matthias

>
>> On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>
>> The AOO419 branch has been created.
>> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
>> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Marcus]

Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

Should we try for a RC1 early next week?


comment #9 is very promising:
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128415

Then it's time to finish and publish the blog post and make it more public.

Marcus




On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:

The AOO419 branch has been created.
The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
The Release Status page has been cloned: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info

[Jim Jagielski]

Should we try for a RC1 early next week?

> On Dec 27, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
> 
> The AOO419 branch has been created.
> The version numbers, et.al. have been bumped.
> The Release Status page has been cloned: 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.9
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> 


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: Copyright updates

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Jim,

Am 04.01.21 um 17:23 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Just a reminder that as we update files within the AOO
> repo, we should also take the opportunity to update the
> copyright dates on said files to 2021... There is no need
> to wholesale update the copyright on *all* files in
> bulk, just as we modify them...

I (hopefully) updated all files in all branches now.

But copyright itself is a "science" so there may be points to discuss...

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Cheers, and Happy 2021!
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Linux virtual machines for release builds

[Jim Jagielski]

Works for me...

> On Jan 4, 2021, at 3:20 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello Marcus,
> 
> On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 05:57:56PM +0100, Marcus wrote:
> 
>> Am 04.01.21 um 16:27 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
>>> On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 04:03:35PM +0100, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>>> 
 first of all, thank you to Mechtilde, Carl, and Jim.
 
>>> [...]
 
 I am trying to re-organize the page to make the official release
 builders clear, and hopefully leaving the appropriate space for
 further contributions.
 
 Link for a quicker click:
 https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>>> 
>>> I am done with the re-organization.  If there are no heavy criticism
>>> against the current structure, we could add other distributions as
>>> sub-chapters. Ubuntu 16.04 is already there as a draft.
>> 
>> yes please, otherwise the page will be longer and longer and ... ;-)
>> 
>>> I am open to criticism and/or suggestions on what else to add.
>> 
>> Is it possible to start with a general page? Then it can introduce the build
>> system a bit
> 
> I second Keith's opinion: this should be the purpose of the building
> guide itself.
> 
>> and the instructions for every distribution has its own
>> sub-page.
>> I think this would give a better structure to the whole.
> 
> I mentioned "sub-chapters" but I understand you would better like to
> have "sub-pages"? That sounds nice...
> 
> If we wanted to make different sub-pages, I would just get rid of
> Step_by_step [1] and substitute it with:
> - Step_by_step_Linux
> - Step_by_step_macOS
> - Step_by_step_Windows
> 
> Then, if we add lots of Linux distros, they will not bother Windows
> and Mac users.
> 
> The new pages would be directly linked by the building guide. I don't
> think it would be useful to keep Step_by_step [1] just as an index of
> the other pages.
> 
> Did I understand your proposal correctly, Marcus?
> 
> References:
> 
> 1: 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
>  
> 
> -- 
> Arrigo
> 
> http://rigo.altervista.org 
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org 
> 
> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org 
>