Re: updating the translation process

[Dave Fisher]

> On Aug 13, 2024, at 4:27 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> Hello all.
> 
> as you all know the translation process is stuck. Let me sum up the process, 
> issue and my proposed solution.
> 
> the basics
> 
> We still use a SDF- definition file for our UI elements. The main benefit is 
> that it is small. The larger po-files are used by pootle.
> 
> This makes it necessary that we convert the Sdf file into a po-file and vice 
> versa.
> 
> the pootle team still maintains a converter tool, which can do the job.
> 
> we have a script that automates the process. the script uses a git repo to 
> counter errors.
> 
> 
> What issues do we currently have?
> 
> - the translation tool is needs a newer python version, and the version 
> available in the distribution does not work
> 
> - the process with git is a local safety measure.
> 
> - the script uses pootle installed tools, for extraction.
> 
> - pootle is out of maintenance using a out dated version of django and python 
> 2
> 
> 
> As you see we have different issues that block this topic.
> 
> The po file format is used by other open source translation tools so we can 
> easily switch. This is why i would like to switch the translation tool at the 
> end.
> 
> first i would like to get the conversion process running. I think it would be 
> best if we build the conversion in github.
> 
> for this we need another translation repository.
> 
> the idea would be that
> 
> 1) nighties exports sdf on build bot
> 
> 2) nighties pushes the export to github. i think on a sdf branch
> 
> 3) trigger creates the conversion to po file and pushes the changes into a po 
> branch. (using actions)
> 
> 4) translation service pulls the po branch and imports it.
> 
> 
> This differs a bit from the current process, which does not is working 
> locally and involves fetch from nighties and then local build. With the issue 
> of meeting requirements on the server.
> 
> any ideas, concerns or questions?

This seems like a good plan. I look forward to helping review the GitHub 
workflows and can help you with review and organization. If we need secrets we 
will need to get infra’s support.

When the process is completed. Builds will import po files from this new 
repository in the po branch and these will be periodically or manually synched 
up from the translation service.

It would be great if we could copy all the users from pootle to the new service.

Best,
Dave

> 
> all the best
> 
> peter
> 
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Re: Query on Open Office building guide on kali Linux VM

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Harsh,

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice.

> On Jul 23, 2024, at 5:10 AM, Harsh Giri <2006.harshg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Greetings Dev Team,
> I'm looking to install OpenOffice and wanted to check if there are any 
> specific recommendations:
> 
>  1.  Should I install it on my Kali Linux virtual machine?
>  2.  Or is it better to install directly on my Windows 11 laptop?
> 
> Are there any advantages or considerations for either option that I should be 
> aware of?

If you plan to build OpenOffice to learn the skills needed for development then 
you should proceed on the platform you are most comfortable developing code.

I hope others will point you to the building guides.

Best,
Dave

> Thank you for your guidance.
> Harsh Giri


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Re: What happened to our document repository for type detection tests?

[Dave Fisher]

> On Jun 22, 2024, at 6:59 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 22.06.24 um 14:53 schrieb Bidouille:
>>> I remember from old time that the QA team at Sun/Oracle had really a
>>> lot of documents for general and special testing.
>>> 
>>> These were not part of the code repository and were loaded from their
>>> own test software. Maybe this is the link to the storage outside of
>>> the project.
>> If you have an URL, you can try to get with the WayBack machine
>> https://wayback-api.archive.org/
> 
> they were stored on an internal server.

The Apache Tika and Apache POI projects make use of Common Crawl to create a 
large corpus for regression tests.

https://commoncrawl.org

Perhaps we can start to do the same? We can ask for help from Tika at 
d...@tika.apache.org or POI at d...@poi.apache.org

Best,
Dave

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Re: icu4c

[Dave Fisher]

You submitted a report to secur...@openoffice.apache.org

This is being analyzed by the security team, but we have not found that we use 
the interface that raised the CVE. Sorry if we aren’t quick enough responding 
to you.

If you wish to look into the issue yourself - 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/tree/trunk/main/icu/prj

Best,
Dave

> On Jun 13, 2024, at 4:56 AM, Arkady Shapovalov  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Does anybody know if icu4c 4.0.1 is going to be updated to the latest version?
> Current version has a lot of vulnerabilities including critical and is very 
> inappropriate for using


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Re: OpenSSL upgraded to 3.0.13

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Pedro,


> On Apr 4, 2024, at 3:14 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
>> On 04/04/2024 10:59 PM WEST Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> Maybe this page might help 
>> https://orcacore.com/install-openssl-3-ubuntu-20-04/
> 
> If I have to manually install OpenSSL doesn't that mean that AOO is not using 
> the upgraded OpenSSL?

It may mean that special efforts in packaging are needed to handle older 
versions of Debian/Ubuntu, or we have to change our minimum version for these 
now unsupported operating systems.

> 
> I apologize if my comment does not make sense but as I stated before, I'm not 
> a programmer.

Sure and understood.

Best,
Dave

> 
> Best,
> Pedro
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Re: OpenSSL upgraded to 3.0.13

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Maybe this page might help https://orcacore.com/install-openssl-3-ubuntu-20-04/

Best,
Dave

> On Apr 4, 2024, at 2:50 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi Damjan
> 
> Thank you for the reply, the macro and detailed instructions!
> 
> 
>> On 04/04/2024 5:37 PM WEST Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
>> 
>> To get further details:
>> 
>> Open the attached "Logging macros" file (we allow attachments on this list, 
>> right?).
>> Allow macros when prompted.
>> Tools -> Macros -> Run macro, under "Logging macros.ods" expand "Standard", 
>> select "logging", on the right side select "LogWebDavToConsole", and click 
>> "Run".
>> Exit OpenOffice.
>> Start OpenOffice from the command line, with output redirected to a file, eg:
>> soffice 2>&1 | tee ~/webdav-log.txt
>> Make your WebDav connection. If you used the above command, the command line 
>> window can be placed side-by-side with OpenOffice, and you can watch the 
>> logging interactively.
>> When it fails, exit OpenOffice, and attach ~/webdav-log.txt to your reply 
>> email, after removing any sensitive info (eg. passwords) from the log.
>> 
> 
> After installing canberra-gtk-module the only line I get in the log is
> 
> ** (soffice:12094): WARNING **: 22:36:39.392: Unknown type: GailWindow
> 
> which apparently is a long know message, and nothing else.
> The message "Nonexistent object. Nonexistent file" pops up but it is not 
> registered in the log.
> 
> Any ideas? Could this simply be a kernel issue since it works correctly in 
> Ubuntu 22.04?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Best,
> Pedro

Re: Forum issue with gmail addresses

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

I’m hoping to follow up on the host VM and investigate this issue. I’m likely 
to need help from ASF Infra on the VM's smtp configuration. BTW - we also need 
to make sure that changes don’t break the MediaWiki which is hosted on that 
same VM.

Best,
Dave

> On Apr 3, 2024, at 1:24 AM, David  wrote:
> 
> More information. I did a little testing on a sandbox phpBB installation, 
> setting the From address to a valid gmail address. A bounce message was 
> received by the user apache - the user as which the web server, and 
> consequently phpBB, run. It might be useful to check the mailbox for the user 
> under which your httpd runs.
> 
> David wrote:
>> The settings for outgoing mail are in the General tab as Email Settings in 
>> the Client Communication section - at least on a vanilla installation of 
>> phpBB; it may be that you don't have access to the entire range of admin 
>> functions.
>> 
>> Outgoing mail from the forum has the From field set as
>> From: 
>> and the return path
>> Return-Path: 
>> 
>> Perhaps this triggers Gmail's quarantine policy?
>> 
>> I can provide full headers for some examples of outgoing mails from the 
>> forum if it would be of any assistance.
>> 
>> 
>> Hagar Delest wrote:
>>> It seems to be a recent change:
>>> https://support.google.com/a/answer/81126?hl=en#zippy=%2Crequirements-for-all-senders
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I don't see anything in the phpBB admin interface for that.
>>> I tried with another mail address, no Gmail off course, no luck either.
>>> 
>>> Hagar.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Le lun. 25 mars 2024, 21:22, Hagar Delest  a écrit :
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 For the record, there is a problem with the forum (at least the EN one):
 no notification is sent anymore to users with a gmail address. It
 includes the activation mail at registration (rather critical), the mail
 when sent through the contact field, and notifications sent by the board
 when replies are made.
 The admin mail (a gmail one) does not get any new mail too when sent
 from the board (a mail sent from a gmail address does come through if
 sent from a regular mail client).
 
 Not sure if it is linked to this one:
 https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=2591856
 
 It stopped working around mid-March. If someone with the karma could
 check the logs.
 Thanks
 
 Hagar
 
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Re: Bugzilla Improvement to fix confusion Fwd: New Open Office account?

[Dave Fisher]

> On Mar 27, 2024, at 5:34 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 27.03.24 um 23:21 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> It seems that it has become difficult to create a bugzilla account and we 
>> need to update our guidance/
>> I think that at a minimum we should:
>> 1. Change the footer text on our bugzilla that reads
>> "In case of problems with the functioning of Apache OpenOffice (AOO) 
>> Bugzilla, please contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org. Please Note:this 
>> e-mail address is only for reporting problems with Apache OpenOffice (AOO) 
>> Bugzilla. Mail about any other subject will be silently ignored.”
>> To
>> “For additional information about this Bugzilla instance including 
>> requesting an account please see [about Bug 
>> Tracking](https://openoffice.apache.org/bug-tracking.html 
>> <https://openoffice.apache.org/bug-tracking.html>}’
>> 2. We can then add improvements to the bug-tracking page at any time.
> 
> first we should clarify if we want to use the existing description Wiki page 
> [1] or to add much text to the projects page [2].
> 
>> Anything else?
> 
> I don't see any setting in the admin sections of Bugzilla. So, I think we 
> need the Infra team to change the text.

Exactly. That’s why I want consensus before the request.

> 
> [1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/HowToFileIssue
> [2] https://openoffice.apache.org/bug-tracking.html

[2] Should point to [1]. [1] should be edited to remove discussion of “create” 
an account.

[2] is about filing a bug while [1] is about the bug tracker ...

Best,
Dave

> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: David 
>>> Subject: Re: New Open Office account?
>>> Date: March 27, 2024 at 2:43:00 PM PDT
>>> To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Reply-To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
>>> 
>>> The account creation page  with that information seems to have been 
>>> disabled; however that email address aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org is also 
>>> referenced in the footer on every page on Bugzilla.
>>> 
>>> Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> Try sysad...@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:sysad...@openoffice.apache.org>
>>>> 
>>>> If you could also identify the url where you see that notice and send that 
>>>> as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 27, 2024, at 4:57 AM, john silver  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How would one go about getting a New Open Office account to submit bugs 
>>>>> or suggestions? previously when I went to get a new account it said "User 
>>>>> account creation has been disabled." and that I need to send an email to 
>>>>> aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org but when I sent the email it came back with 
>>>>> a failure notice.
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Bugzilla Improvement to fix confusion Fwd: New Open Office account?

[Dave Fisher]

HI -

It seems that it has become difficult to create a bugzilla account and we need 
to update our guidance/

I think that at a minimum we should:

1. Change the footer text on our bugzilla that reads 

"In case of problems with the functioning of Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla, 
please contact aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org. Please Note:this e-mail address 
is only for reporting problems with Apache OpenOffice (AOO) Bugzilla. Mail 
about any other subject will be silently ignored.”

To

“For additional information about this Bugzilla instance including requesting 
an account please see [about Bug 
Tracking](https://openoffice.apache.org/bug-tracking.html 
<https://openoffice.apache.org/bug-tracking.html>}’

2. We can then add improvements to the bug-tracking page at any time.

Anything else?

Best,
Dave


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: David 
> Subject: Re: New Open Office account?
> Date: March 27, 2024 at 2:43:00 PM PDT
> To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
> Reply-To: us...@openoffice.apache.org
> 
> The account creation page  with that information seems to have been disabled; 
> however that email address aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org is also referenced 
> in the footer on every page on Bugzilla.
> 
> Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Try sysad...@openoffice.apache.org <mailto:sysad...@openoffice.apache.org>
>> 
>> If you could also identify the url where you see that notice and send that 
>> as well.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2024, at 4:57 AM, john silver  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How would one go about getting a New Open Office account to submit bugs or 
>>> suggestions? previously when I went to get a new account it said "User 
>>> account creation has been disabled." and that I need to send an email to 
>>> aoo-bugzilla-ad...@apache.org but when I sent the email it came back with a 
>>> failure notice.
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Re: MS Office 2010+ "Agile" encrypted OOXML documents are working now!

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Damjan,

I know it “opens a big can of worms” and is another issue, but upgrading to a 
newer OpenSSL for Trunk and maybe 4.2 would be a very good thing,

Best,
Dave

> On Mar 17, 2024, at 4:23 AM, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:
> 
> Also
> that ancient OpenSSL version we use internally, 1.0.x, uses
> EVP_MD_CTX_create()/destroy() instead of EVP_MD_CTX_new()/free(). Finally
> some template function was unhappy about parameter type ambiguity (even
> though superior compilers like Clang are perfectly happy), and I had to add
> casts.

Re: [Issue 101010] Direct svg or eps export from calc

[Dave Fisher]

CC to dev@ for exposure.

I think that this fix is absolutely cool!

Best,
Dave

> On Feb 13, 2024, at 8:46 PM, bugzi...@apache.org wrote:
> 
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=101010
> 
> dam...@apache.org changed:
> 
>   What|Removed |Added
> 
> CC||dam...@apache.org
> 
> --- Comment #2 from dam...@apache.org ---
> With bug 112829 fixed, you can directly copy charts from Calc in SVG format,
> but you still need to paste and save them somewhere else.
> 
> Is that an acceptable solution?
> 
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Re: AOO 4.2.0-Dev5 ?

[Dave Fisher]

> On Feb 6, 2024, at 2:00 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave, all
> 
>> On 02/04/2024 8:01 PM WET Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2024, at 5:24 PM, Pedro Lino  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all
>>> 
>>> While testing if Bug
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127783
>>> was fixed (it isn't), I noticed that in the File Open dialog the File Type 
>>> filter does not include any MS XML files.
>>> I believe this needs to be added...
>>> 
>>> My question is: should I add it in Bug report
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=67442
>>> which already includes some patches, or open a new bug number?
>> 
>> Do you plan on fixing it with the same PR, or with separate PRs?
> 
> Unfortunately I am not a programmer so I do not plan to fix it.
> I'm available for reporting and testing.
> 
> I hope someone else on this list has the time/interest to add those patches.

Since this is the case then Ann additional issue with links between the two 
will help a developer who picks up these issues.

Best,
Dave
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>>>> On 01/07/2024 12:36 PM WET Matthias Seidel  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> and a happy new year!
>>>> 
>>>> After successfully releasing AOO 4.1.15 in December we should now work 
>>>> towards a renewed Developer Edition 5 for AOO 4.2.0.
>>>> 
>>>> I am still in the massive process to clean up our Help files, so the 
>>>> whole translation process may be postponed to Dev 6.
>>>> 
>>>> Opinions?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>   Matthias
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Re: Para site

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Forwarding this to the PMC for discussion.

dev@ on bcc.

Best,
Dave

> On Jan 12, 2024, at 12:00 PM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> Only published to promote SEO 
> Viewed by AdBlock as badware risk
> For me, this site use OpenOffice and give a wrong image
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Fernando Cassia" 
>> À: "dev" 
>> Envoyé: Vendredi 12 Janvier 2024 19:08:10
>> Objet: Re: Para site
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 13:41 Bidouille  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Fake site with
>>> https://open-office.fr/
>>> 
>>> Did we have a process to fight this?
>>> 
>> 
>> It links to the official site at the bottom.
>> Downloads are served from the official site.
>> It clearly says it's a French language site to serve the francophone
>> community.
>> 
>> I don't see a problem with it.
>> 
>> FC
>> 
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Re: AOO 4.2.0-Dev5 ?

[Dave Fisher]

> On Feb 3, 2024, at 5:24 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> While testing if Bug
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127783
> was fixed (it isn't), I noticed that in the File Open dialog the File Type 
> filter does not include any MS XML files.
> I believe this needs to be added...
> 
> My question is: should I add it in Bug report
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=67442
> which already includes some patches, or open a new bug number?

Do you plan on fixing it with the same PR, or with separate PRs?

Best,
Dave

> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 01/07/2024 12:36 PM WET Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> and a happy new year!
>> 
>> After successfully releasing AOO 4.1.15 in December we should now work 
>> towards a renewed Developer Edition 5 for AOO 4.2.0.
>> 
>> I am still in the massive process to clean up our Help files, so the 
>> whole translation process may be postponed to Dev 6.
>> 
>> Opinions?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
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Re: AOO 4.2.0-Dev5 ?

[Dave Fisher]

We should not announce dev builds outside of this mailing list. They are in no 
way official and the intention is help the dev community in development. And 
this is great because that is what you both are doing.


Thank you,
Dave

> On Feb 2, 2024, at 12:27 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Am 30.01.24 um 17:42 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2024, at 7:53 AM, Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jan 30, 2024, at 5:23 AM, Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Jim,
 
 Am 30.01.24 um 11:11 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> macOS and Linux64 have also been uploaded.
 Great!
>>> I'll start on Linux32 bit builds today.
>>> 
>> 
>> Those are now uploaded!
> 
> Great!
> 
> So what do we do with Dev5 now? Announce it?
> 
> Basically it is just a snapshot...
> 
> I would have liked to have more features, bugfixes and updated translations 
> included, but maybe we are able to add that for Dev6?
> 
> Regarding translation, I worked hard on the Help files and some parts of the 
> UI and the exported en-US.sdf is *much* cleaner now:
> 
> https://nightlies.apache.org/openoffice/install/linsnap-42x/?C=M;O=D 
> 
> 
> Additionally I put together the Help Authoring Tool (based on our current 
> code):
> 
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/HelpAuthoring.oxt 
> 
> 
> I was able to tweak AOO on Linux to open existing XHP files, but this tool 
> still needs a lot of attention from developers...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
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Re: [SUGGESTION] Don't make the commits too big

[Dave Fisher]

> On Jan 12, 2024, at 11:46 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> @all AOO developers
> 
> In order to prevent problems like this ...
> "I need to find a specific code change in a commit big like the Mount Everest"
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124285
> 
> ... we should agree that commits should not be too large. Then a regression, 
> missing code part or else is much easier - and faster - to find.
> 
> E.g., doing the code changes of this wiki page is one commit should be 
> prevented but split in reasonable commits:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/ODF+1.3+Changes
> 
> What do you think?

I think that makes sense. If a PR has to be large then that work should be on a 
branch and then rebased.

Best,
Dave

> 
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> 
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Re: (openoffice-org) branch main updated: Rename the tools directory to fit its true purpose

[Dave Fisher]

FYI - I’ve renamed the tools directory in the apache/openoffice-org.git 
repository to fit its true purpose as migration-tools.

Best,
Dave

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>Rename the tools directory to fit its true purpose
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> diff --git a/tools/README.md b/migration-tools/README.md
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> rename from tools/README.md
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> similarity index 100%
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> similarity index 100%
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> rename to migration-tools/fetch-all-web.sh
> diff --git a/tools/kenai2website.sh b/migration-tools/kenai2website.sh
> similarity index 100%
> rename from tools/kenai2website.sh
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> diff --git a/tools/migration2git.sh b/migration-tools/migration2git.sh
> similarity index 100%
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> similarity index 100%
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Re: Size limits on mwiki for uploaded files are too small

[Dave Fisher]

We recently updated the httpd configuration on this server. If this undid the 
fix then we’ll need to think the fix through together.

Best,
Dave

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> On Nov 10, 2023, at 5:53 PM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I set the upload size to 50MB
>> all the best
>> Peter
> 
> Peter.
> 
> It seems that the size limit for uploaded files on the mwiki has been reset 
> to 2MB again. Even using the PDF compression software I have many are still 
> over that, and it is slowing down the process of getting Chapter files for 
> the Writer Guide published to the miki.
> 
> Could you please set that limit back to the 50MB as you did before.
> 
> Regards
> Keith.
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Pootle Server Update

[Dave Fisher]

The OpenOffice project wishes to update the Pootle server 
(translate.Apache.org) that we share to translation software that is 
maintained. Pootle development stopped over four years ago.

Please let OpenOffice know if you still use the service and if you do would you 
like to cooperate on the upgrade?

For OpenOffice,
Dave

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Re: Add Mongolian to Pootle?

[Dave Fisher]

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> On Oct 25, 2023, at 1:55 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
>> Am 25.10.23 um 04:32 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> It’s unfortunate, but we are going to need to replace Pootle for 4.2.
> What is the reason for this now?

Pootle is unmaintained, stuck on Python 2.x, and has had no release in 6 years. 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pootle

This is blocking 4.2 already.

>> A quick search finds Weblate which can be deployed as a docker 
>> image.https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/admin/install/docker.html
>> 
>> I did about 10 minutes of research there might be other options.
>> 
>> If this looks promising then we just need to understand how to adapt the 
>> scripts to create SDF plus imports and exports. It’s a lot, but we could 
>> fire up a new VM and try it.
> 
> As long as translations are kept 100% I am open for working solutions.

Of course that’s the goal!

Best,
Dave
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2023, at 9:27 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> Any idea how we can help?
>>> 
>>> I would like to build localized 4.2.0 versions again to keep the 
>>> translators happy! ;-)
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>Matthias
>>> 
>>>> Am 12.10.23 um 08:48 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>>>> I am sorry. For my lack of participation.
>>>> Just a short summary.
>>>> I have noted the todos on the wishlist in confluence but maybe it is to 
>>>> rough.
>>>> 
>>>> We use for migrating between Po files and SDF the translation kit from 
>>>> pootle. It is an own independand package. The latest version uses an newer 
>>>> Python Version then available on the server.
>>>> So we need to move to the latest python /translation kit version.
>>>> 
>>>> However pootle itself needs python 2.7 and is not developed anymore. This 
>>>> means it has an old Django version. We should look into replacing pootle. 
>>>> However we have a lot of strings and text and Multifile setup. So this 
>>>> might be not as easy as it sounds.
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried to create a docker image to become more independand from the 
>>>> machine and encapsolule the Po to SDF conversion. But that needs to be 
>>>> tested. On the server I have installed podman to run the docker image. But 
>>>> you need to run in interactive mode.
>>>> 
>>>> Also maybe we need to check if we open up a gitbox repository for the 
>>>> translation files. Since the changes are checked in in a git repository.
>>>> 
>>>> In mechtilde home folder you find the scripts we used  so far. There is 
>>>> also the repository.
>>>> I think I copied the repository also to the /x folder.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a local documentation of mechtildes scripts.  I have to move this 
>>>> into confluence. That Todo may be missing.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this quick summary helps. All the best
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 11. Oktober 2023 19:02:58 MESZ schrieb Matthias 
>>>> Seidel:
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 11.10.23 um 18:59 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Matthias 
>>>>>>> Seidel  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 11.10.23 um 13:14 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>>>>>>> Hi Matthias
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, of course.
>>>>>>>> If there are people willing to contribute, there is no reason not to 
>>>>>>>> include it.
>>>>>>>> Let me know if my help is useful :)
>>>>>>> Well, I only asked, since I am not able to do it... ;-)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And I am not really sure if we can do it at the moment, since the 
>>>>>>> server needs attention.
>>>>>> Please describe what attention the server needs either here or on 
>>>>>> sysadmin@ so that someone (likely me) can take the needed action.
>>>>> Peter and Mechtilde know better than me (even if I have 

Re: Add Mongolian to Pootle?

[Dave Fisher]

It’s unfortunate, but we are going to need to replace Pootle for 4.2.

A quick search finds Weblate which can be deployed as a docker image. 
https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/admin/install/docker.html

I did about 10 minutes of research there might be other options.

If this looks promising then we just need to understand how to adapt the 
scripts to create SDF plus imports and exports. It’s a lot, but we could fire 
up a new VM and try it.

Best,
Dave

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> On Oct 23, 2023, at 9:27 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Any idea how we can help?
> 
> I would like to build localized 4.2.0 versions again to keep the translators 
> happy! ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> Am 12.10.23 um 08:48 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>> I am sorry. For my lack of participation.
>> Just a short summary.
>> I have noted the todos on the wishlist in confluence but maybe it is to 
>> rough.
>> 
>> We use for migrating between Po files and SDF the translation kit from 
>> pootle. It is an own independand package. The latest version uses an newer 
>> Python Version then available on the server.
>> So we need to move to the latest python /translation kit version.
>> 
>> However pootle itself needs python 2.7 and is not developed anymore. This 
>> means it has an old Django version. We should look into replacing pootle. 
>> However we have a lot of strings and text and Multifile setup. So this might 
>> be not as easy as it sounds.
>> 
>> I have tried to create a docker image to become more independand from the 
>> machine and encapsolule the Po to SDF conversion. But that needs to be 
>> tested. On the server I have installed podman to run the docker image. But 
>> you need to run in interactive mode.
>> 
>> Also maybe we need to check if we open up a gitbox repository for the 
>> translation files. Since the changes are checked in in a git repository.
>> 
>> In mechtilde home folder you find the scripts we used  so far. There is also 
>> the repository.
>> I think I copied the repository also to the /x folder.
>> 
>> I have a local documentation of mechtildes scripts.  I have to move this 
>> into confluence. That Todo may be missing.
>> 
>> I hope this quick summary helps. All the best
>> Peter
>> 
>> 
>> Am 11. Oktober 2023 19:02:58 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
>> :
>>> Hi Dave,
>>> 
>>> Am 11.10.23 um 18:59 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 11, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Matthias Seidel  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Pedro,
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 11.10.23 um 13:14 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>>>>>> Hi Matthias
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, of course.
>>>>>> If there are people willing to contribute, there is no reason not to 
>>>>>> include it.
>>>>>> Let me know if my help is useful :)
>>>>> Well, I only asked, since I am not able to do it... ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> And I am not really sure if we can do it at the moment, since the server 
>>>>> needs attention.
>>>> Please describe what attention the server needs either here or on 
>>>> sysadmin@ so that someone (likely me) can take the needed action.
>>> Peter and Mechtilde know better than me (even if I have administrative 
>>> rights in Pootle).
>>> 
>>> All I know is that we are not able to provide new SDF files.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>Matthias
>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Pedro
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 10/10/2023 2:09 PM WEST Matthias Seidel 
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>   Hi All,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I see a lot of activity at the Mongolian dictionary.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Should we add Mongolian to Pootle to enable translation?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We could try to import some strings from our source:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/tree/trunk/extras/l10n/source/mn
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Matthias
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Re: Add Mongolian to Pootle?

[Dave Fisher]

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> On Oct 11, 2023, at 1:56 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Pedro,
> 
>> Am 11.10.23 um 13:14 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>> Hi Matthias
>> 
>> Yes, of course.
>> If there are people willing to contribute, there is no reason not to include 
>> it.
>> Let me know if my help is useful :)
> 
> Well, I only asked, since I am not able to do it... ;-)
> 
> And I am not really sure if we can do it at the moment, since the server 
> needs attention.

Please describe what attention the server needs either here or on sysadmin@ so 
that someone (likely me) can take the needed action.

Best,
Dave

> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Pedro
>> 
 On 10/10/2023 2:09 PM WEST Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Hi All,
>>> 
>>> I see a lot of activity at the Mongolian dictionary.
>>> 
>>> Should we add Mongolian to Pootle to enable translation?
>>> 
>>> We could try to import some strings from our source:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/tree/trunk/extras/l10n/source/mn
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Matthias
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Re: "Roadmap"

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> On Oct 5, 2023, at 8:12 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Pedro,
> 
>> Am 05.10.23 um 16:32 schrieb Pedro Lino:
>> Hi Matthias, all
>> 
 On 10/05/2023 2:23 PM WEST Matthias Seidel  
 wrote:
>>>   - Release AOO 4.1.15 before the end of 2023. Branch AOO41X is in good
>>> condition, but personally I would like to have the "ugly UI" fixed on
>>> some Linux distribution.
>> Agree. What ugly UI issues does 4.1.15 fix?
> 
> Until now it isn't fixed... ;-)
> 
> On my Ubuntu 22.04 AOO 4.1.14 falls back to a Windows 98-like UI.
> 
> Funny fact: The 4.1.15 builds from our buildbot (Ubuntu 18.04) look OK.
> 
>>  
>>>   - Start on removing the blocker_s_ for AOO 4.2.0 (in fact Damjan already
>>> fixed two with one commit) with a release date 2024 in mind.
>>> Maybe we could release AOO420-dev5 to the public in early 2024?
>>> 
>> Agree. Yes for dev5.
>> 
>>> I expect a long testing phase for AOO 4.2.0 because of the new
>>> translations, new code (in parts 10 years old, but never released to the
>>> public) and expected problems with user profiles when updating.
>> Updating translations will be an issue. I volunteered to learn the process 
>> from Mechtilde but I got stuck in some bureaucratic permissions (not from 
>> Mechtilde)...
> 
> The translations itself are not the main problem, we need to be able to 
> synchronize Pootle and our code in a structured way. The Pootle server needs 
> an update before we can proceed.

What are the required updates? Is there a tracker or wiki page? I might be able 
to help in a couple of weeks.

As far as sysadmin work Pootle is #1

#2 is MediaWiki version update.

#3 is Forum version update - there it’s only a single minor version and it’s 
more about knowledge transfer and configuration documentation.

Best,
Dave

> 
>> 
>> Why do you expect profile updating problems?
> Maybe because I am always a bit pessimistic? ;-)
> 
> But we had reports of profile corruption with every release (esp. on 
> Windows). A lot of code has changed so we need to test it and if we find 
> problems provide a "workaround". 4.2.0 should be a smooth upgrade.
> 
> Personally, I had to reset my 4.2.0 profile recently. But that was probably 
> from an extension corruption that happened before Damjan's fix (my extension 
> manager looked totally empty).
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> Pedro
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Re: 4.2.0 release blockers

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> On Oct 1, 2023, at 12:04 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Am 01.10.23 um 13:44 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
>> Hi
>> 
>> So for 4.2.0, presumably we need to fix the bugs with 4.2.0_release_blocker
>> flags:
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=flagtypes.name&list_id=251353&o1=substring&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=4.2.0_release_blocker
>> of which there is 6:
>> 
>> For 127731, I found the problem yesterday (Microsoft's damned side-by-side
>> assemblies), and am building AOO with my fix now, if all goes well it
>> should be committed later today or tomorrow.
>> 127783 needs testing on several platforms to isolate the bug, now that
>> Arrigo's ppt branch was merged.
>> 127861 will probably need bisecting.
>> 128094 is probably a packaging bug and needs testing and might need
>> bisecting.
> sadly I suck with c++ debuggers.
>> 127154 and 127966 need to be looked at by a Mac developer.
> 
> please note we have 2 project MacMinis. A intel and a m1 based system.
> 
> they are based in the US, the plan has been to set them up as build bots. 
> (still on this topic)
> 
> However in meanwhile i found out that you are not able to build on the new 
> processors for intel.

On that machine we should see if we can build for the new chips …

When you access those Macs do you get a desktop or is it ssh?

Is there a step by step how to build AOO on these? Knowing the steps would 
allow someone who is interested to try on their own Mac. 

Remind what version of macOS should be the minimum? My 11 year old iMac can 
only be on 10.11.6 (I’m not saying I can build on it, but I could test a 
build). Our minimum for 4.1.x is currently 10.7.

> 
> But the intel one is available to all who do not own a apple device but need 
> to test or develop something for AOO.

If multiple will be trying on these we’ll need to agree on the environment and 
make sure they are setup.

Best,
Dave
> 
> 
> All the best.
> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> Damjan
>> 
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Re: [Marketing] OpenOffice in the news

[Dave Fisher]

Sorry to top post.

I think a response to this type of naive and repetitive discussion needs to be 
careful and positive. This level of complaint is nothing like what happened on 
this same mailing list when this project started incubation. This situation is 
like a coal mine fire burning underground.

I want to be constructive and positive. This project supports the ecosystem and 
does so in ways that do treat LibreOffice very fairly. We need to talk about 
all of the non-dev work we have done. Let’s have a message focused on that.

Everything about these areas in the OpenOffice ecosystem that we have preserved 
includes:

1. Forums. We support LibreOffice there. Some of the admins have switched over.
2. MediaWiki where we have preserved content.
3. Translation were support 42 languages including dictionaries. 
4. Extensions and templates are preserved, but the PMC aught to review how 
SourceForge is doing.
5. Microsoft Store. It was an effort to get this in place.
6. Trademark protection. For example blocking Amazon sellers who charge people 
to download OpenOffice. Once upon a time you bought a CD or DVD and it was fair 
to charge a small amount, but no longer.
7. We will never ask you to register for OpenOffice. We absolutely do not care 
and respect your privacy.

Yet we do need to recruit people who can help with:

1. Building the application for a particular platform.
2. Developers who want to understand C++ some of which was written over 30 
years ago.
3. If you can do 1 and 2 then we are likely to invite you to help the security 
team.
4. If you some how have the need or desire to improve the 
OpenOffice/LibreOffice ecosystem then contributing to OpenOffice first may be 
best for all.
5. And other ecosystem topics as outlined above.

We should all keep in mind that the ASF is a certain kind of nonprofit 
registered in the US and we have certain legal obligations regarding the assets 
donated to and accepted by the Foundation. To transfer or license certain 
assets will require careful discussion to know if such is even feasible. Adding 
heat to any such discussion will shut it down immediately.

This is my opinion and it’s certainly aspirational.

Best,
Dave


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> On Sep 29, 2023, at 6:45 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Am 27.09.23 um 17:14 schrieb Brian Proffitt:
>> Since the marketing list was closes earlier this year, I'll toss this here.
>> 
>> As I am sure some of you are no doubt aware, there was yet-another
>> call for the ASF to drop your project that made a brief blip in the
>> media cycle earlier this week:
>> https://rocket9labs.com/post/its-time-to-let-go-apache-software-foundation/
> You find a lot of people who have strong believes in this direction. But at 
> the same time they lack a lot of individual knowledge.
>> 
>> Variations of this argument has been repeatedly made over the course
>> of OpenOffice's tenure within the ASF, and while M&P has no plans to
>> respond to this article or any others along these lines, I would be
>> remiss if I didn't recommend to the PMC that some sort of response
>> from the project itself (either through a statement, future roadmap, a
>> new release, etc.) would be a good idea.
> What do you suggest? We do not have a clear way forward. I have put together 
> a Whishlist [1], which is the closest thing I am aware of to a roadmap.
>> 
>> The fact of the matter is that because of its download popularity, the
>> status of OpenOffice has a very strong perceptual effect on the rest
>> of the ASF. So, if OpenOffice is perceived as a "dead" project, that
>> potentially propagates the myth that ASF is a place where projects go
>> to die.
> 
> Imho you fight windmills. The OpenLetter is the starting point, of this 
> chapter.
> 
> Usually all rants start there. Whoever tackles this needs to be a envoy and a 
> diplomat. The gambit is the TDF. Only if the TDF publicly support the ASF and 
> AOO, the situation will improve.
> 
> This does not mean that we merge. However I would like to see a merge for 
> multiple reasons.
> 
>> Again, this is just a recommendation. As long as OpenOffice abides by
>> the governance of the ASF, you are free to make your own choices. Let
>> me know if you need assistance in addressing this issue, happy to
>> volunteer some time to it.
> 
> I do not believe that the PMC can do anything. What would give us leverage is 
> if we can get the code under control (release 4.2 , new build environment).
> 
>  We need to do improvements in the code, and align together that we focus on 
> the right tasks.
> 
> But if you have suggestions what we can communicate I am willing to hear. I 
> mean I owe you all a report from Froscon. I am so sorry I did not find the 
> time and muse yet to finish my report.
> 
> I wanted to start also some clothes discussion for next year.
> 
> One thing is, i am currently the only one who can post on facebook. since i 
> currently dont use it, there is no one. but I lack authority to bring 

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Maintenance on Forum and Wiki Websites

[Dave Fisher]

wiki.openoffice.org is now functional!

You may need to clear your browser cache from the last hour or two. Adding 
?action=purge or &action=purge to a url may also be needed.

Thanks to Daniel Gruno from the ASF’s crack infrastructure team for the 
suggestion and the assistance in this website update.

Best,
Dave


> On Sep 27, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> The current status of the update is:
> 
> 1. forum.openoffice.org is working fine. Please check if you want.
> 
> 2. wiki.openoffice.org we are having some trouble with style. Update once we 
> know.
> 
> Best,
> Dave
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2023, at 8:01 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> We will be performing updates on  wiki.openoffice.org and 
>> forum.openoffice.org at 8AM PDT (-8) on Wednesday, September 27. There may 
>> be some downtime if trouble occurs.
>> 
>> You can reply on this thread with any problems you notice.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>> 
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Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Maintenance on Forum and Wiki Websites

[Dave Fisher]

The current status of the update is:

1. forum.openoffice.org is working fine. Please check if you want.

2. wiki.openoffice.org we are having some trouble with style. Update once we 
know.

Best,
Dave

> On Sep 26, 2023, at 8:01 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> We will be performing updates on  wiki.openoffice.org and 
> forum.openoffice.org at 8AM PDT (-8) on Wednesday, September 27. There may be 
> some downtime if trouble occurs.
> 
> You can reply on this thread with any problems you notice.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Maintenance on Forum and Wiki Websites

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We will be performing updates on  wiki.openoffice.org and forum.openoffice.org 
at 8AM PDT (-8) on Wednesday, September 27. There may be some downtime if 
trouble occurs.

You can reply on this thread with any problems you notice.

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: Are Forum and Wiki down ??

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We plan to make a change at 8am PDT on Wednesday. Notice will be on a separate 
thread.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 21, 2023, at 9:59 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Sep 21, 2023, at 9:24 PM, F Campos Costero  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 12:15 PM Dave  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 21/09/2023 19:03, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> Hi -
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 20, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2023-09-20 06:55, Dick Groskamp via users wrote:
>>>>>> We now are experiencing downtime on Apache OpenOffice fora (https:/
>>> forum.openoffice.org/en/forum;https:/forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum) and
>>> the OpenOffice wiki  (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki).
>>>>>> Sites report error to Firefox and Firefox says it can't connect
>>>>> Not down, per se, but rather overworked. I have increased the process
>>> count for httpd, so it can handle a few more users at a time, but this is
>>> mainly a stop-gap solution. The ideal solution here would be for the
>>> project to move away from the old prefork methods and to an FPM-backed PHP
>>> engine for their forum and wiki, which would enable event-based processing
>>> instead (meaning a lot more users could be served with the same resources).
>>>> I’ve been discussing with Daniel how to make this FPM change on our
>>> server. It should be a simple configuration change, but we want to schedule
>>> it so that we can revert or fix it if it fails.
>>>> 
>>>> We will need some people ready to test the Wiki and Fora when we do this.
>>>> 
>>>> I am thinking that next Tuesday or Wednesday morning at about 8 AM PDT /
>>> 16:00 UTC would be good for me. How is that for the Wiki and Fora teams?
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately I will be in hospital on Monday and Tuesday, but I should
>>> be home on Wednesday and would be happy to test the changes.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Earlier (2023-09-13) I mailed about slow performance:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We are experiencing a very slow performance on Apache OpenOffice fora
>>> (https:/forum.openoffice.org/en/forum;https:/forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum)
>>> and the OpenOffice wiki  (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki).
>>>>>> Also reported on the mailinglist dev@openoffice.apache.org by French
>>> user Bidouille
>>>>>> __
>>>>>> Could?Would you check please ?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> DiGro
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online
>>> (F-Secure)
>>>> 
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>>> I'd be happy to run tests on the forum. Should a notice be posted on the
>> forum or will this (we hope) be transparent to users?
> 
> If it works right away it’s a blip. A few seconds. If there are problems then 
> there will be disruptions.  Let’s announce an hour of possible downtime.
> 
> We’ll be loose this time and play in production, but for software upgrades we 
> should build a new vm and switch over as it is ready.
> 
> 1. I took a look at versions of phpBB today and we are at 3.3.9 and the 
> current version is 3.3.10. Sometime in the next few months we should upgrade. 
> I’d like for a volunteer to work with me on that in a few months.
> 
> 2. MediaWiki versions are moving faster. A plan for updating that needs a 
> patallel effort.
> 
> Best,
> Dave
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> Francis


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Re: Are Forum and Wiki down ??

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> On Sep 21, 2023, at 9:24 PM, F Campos Costero  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 12:15 PM Dave  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 21/09/2023 19:03, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2023-09-20 06:55, Dick Groskamp via users wrote:
>>>>> We now are experiencing downtime on Apache OpenOffice fora (https:/
>> forum.openoffice.org/en/forum;https:/forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum) and
>> the OpenOffice wiki  (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki).
>>>>> Sites report error to Firefox and Firefox says it can't connect
>>>> Not down, per se, but rather overworked. I have increased the process
>> count for httpd, so it can handle a few more users at a time, but this is
>> mainly a stop-gap solution. The ideal solution here would be for the
>> project to move away from the old prefork methods and to an FPM-backed PHP
>> engine for their forum and wiki, which would enable event-based processing
>> instead (meaning a lot more users could be served with the same resources).
>>> I’ve been discussing with Daniel how to make this FPM change on our
>> server. It should be a simple configuration change, but we want to schedule
>> it so that we can revert or fix it if it fails.
>>> 
>>> We will need some people ready to test the Wiki and Fora when we do this.
>>> 
>>> I am thinking that next Tuesday or Wednesday morning at about 8 AM PDT /
>> 16:00 UTC would be good for me. How is that for the Wiki and Fora teams?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Dave
>> 
>> Unfortunately I will be in hospital on Monday and Tuesday, but I should
>> be home on Wednesday and would be happy to test the changes.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Earlier (2023-09-13) I mailed about slow performance:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We are experiencing a very slow performance on Apache OpenOffice fora
>> (https:/forum.openoffice.org/en/forum;https:/forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum)
>> and the OpenOffice wiki  (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki).
>>>>> Also reported on the mailinglist dev@openoffice.apache.org by French
>> user Bidouille
>>>>> __
>>>>> Could?Would you check please ?
>>>>> --
>>>>> DiGro
>>>>> ___
>>>>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online
>> (F-Secure)
>>> 
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>> I'd be happy to run tests on the forum. Should a notice be posted on the
> forum or will this (we hope) be transparent to users?

If it works right away it’s a blip. A few seconds. If there are problems then 
there will be disruptions.  Let’s announce an hour of possible downtime.

We’ll be loose this time and play in production, but for software upgrades we 
should build a new vm and switch over as it is ready.

1. I took a look at versions of phpBB today and we are at 3.3.9 and the current 
version is 3.3.10. Sometime in the next few months we should upgrade. I’d like 
for a volunteer to work with me on that in a few months.

2. MediaWiki versions are moving faster. A plan for updating that needs a 
patallel effort.

Best,
Dave


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Re: Are Forum and Wiki down ??

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Hi -

> On Sep 20, 2023, at 7:29 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> 
> On 2023-09-20 06:55, Dick Groskamp via users wrote:
>> We now are experiencing downtime on Apache OpenOffice fora 
>> (https:/forum.openoffice.org/en/forum;https:/forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum) 
>> and the OpenOffice wiki  (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki).
>> Sites report error to Firefox and Firefox says it can't connect
> 
> Not down, per se, but rather overworked. I have increased the process count 
> for httpd, so it can handle a few more users at a time, but this is mainly a 
> stop-gap solution. The ideal solution here would be for the project to move 
> away from the old prefork methods and to an FPM-backed PHP engine for their 
> forum and wiki, which would enable event-based processing instead (meaning a 
> lot more users could be served with the same resources).

I’ve been discussing with Daniel how to make this FPM change on our server. It 
should be a simple configuration change, but we want to schedule it so that we 
can revert or fix it if it fails.

We will need some people ready to test the Wiki and Fora when we do this.

I am thinking that next Tuesday or Wednesday morning at about 8 AM PDT / 16:00 
UTC would be good for me. How is that for the Wiki and Fora teams?

Best,
Dave


> 
>> Earlier (2023-09-13) I mailed about slow performance:
>> 
>> We are experiencing a very slow performance on Apache OpenOffice fora 
>> (https:/forum.openoffice.org/en/forum;https:/forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum) 
>> and the OpenOffice wiki  (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki).
>> Also reported on the mailinglist dev@openoffice.apache.org by French user 
>> Bidouille
>> __
>> Could?Would you check please ?
>> -- 
>> DiGro
>> ___
>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online 
>> (F-Secure)
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Re: Are Forum and Wiki down ??

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Hi -

Thank you very much Daniel.

Best,
Dave

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> On Sep 20, 2023, at 7:45 AM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> 
> On 2023-09-20 06:55, Dick Groskamp via users wrote:
>> We now are experiencing downtime on Apache OpenOffice fora 
>> (https:/forum.openoffice.org/en/forum;https:/forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum) 
>> and the OpenOffice wiki  (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki).
>> Sites report error to Firefox and Firefox says it can't connect
> 
> Not down, per se, but rather overworked. I have increased the process count 
> for httpd, so it can handle a few more users at a time, but this is mainly a 
> stop-gap solution. The ideal solution here would be for the project to move 
> away from the old prefork methods and to an FPM-backed PHP engine for their 
> forum and wiki, which would enable event-based processing instead (meaning a 
> lot more users could be served with the same resources).
> 
>> Earlier (2023-09-13) I mailed about slow performance:
>> 
>> We are experiencing a very slow performance on Apache OpenOffice fora 
>> (https:/forum.openoffice.org/en/forum;https:/forum.openoffice.org/nl/forum) 
>> and the OpenOffice wiki  (https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki).
>> Also reported on the mailinglist dev@openoffice.apache.org by French user 
>> Bidouille
>> __
>> Could?Would you check please ?
>> -- 
>> DiGro
>> ___
>> Apache OpenOffice 4.1.14 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online 
>> (F-Secure)
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Re: Building AOO

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> On Sep 9, 2023, at 10:43 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Matthias
> 
>>> On 09/09/2023 10:03 AM WEST Matthias Seidel  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Just to let you know that you are not the only one on this mailing list. 
>> We are at least two! ;-)
> 
> Good to know! :) Thanks!
> 
 On 09/01/2023 1:54 PM WEST Pedro Lino  
 wrote:
> 
 There seems to be a kernel problem...
>>> False alarm. I was able to compile working binaries for 41X under Kernel 
>>> 5.4.0.162 (latest for Ubuntu 18.04) as well
> 
>> Great! What did you change?
> 
> Started each build from zero (no switching branches, delete full openoffice 
> folder) and made sure that the number of threads is not larger than those 
> existing in the PC I'm building on (I used "build --all -P8 -- -P8" in a PC 
> with only 4 CPUS and 1 thread per CPU) because this seems to confuse the 
> building process...
> 
>>> Also managed to compile 42X under kernel 4.15 but yet not under 5.4.0
> 
> Compiled successfully 42X under kernel 5.4.0 also, so all is good.
> 
>>> All the binaries can be installed and the program works without issues but 
>>> there are many ignored libraries in bootstrap which I have no idea of the 
>>> consequences...
> 
>>> Is this an issue?
>> 
>> I don't think so.
>> 
>> If you don't have the prerequisites defined in configure, this is just 
>> informal.
> 
> But will the resulting binaries not miss any features? These libraries should 
> be needed for something...
> 
> ignoring commons-httpclient-3.1-src.tar.gz because its prerequisites are not 
> fulfilled
> ignoring commons-codec-1.9-src.tar.gz because its prerequisites are not 
> fulfilled
> ignoring commons-logging-1.1.3-src.tar.gz because its prerequisites are not 
> fulfilled
> ignoring xsltml_2.1.2.zip because its prerequisites are not fulfilled
> ignoring apache-rat-0.10-bin.tar.bz2 because its prerequisites are not 
> fulfilled
> ignoring cairo-1.8.0.tar.gz because its prerequisites are not fulfilled
> ignoring pixman-0.12.0.tar.gz because its prerequisites are not fulfilled
> 
> Anyone?

Those all look to be out of date now. How are these being pulled? At what url?

Regards,
Dave

> 
> All the best,
> Pedro
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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

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> On Aug 19, 2023, at 6:06 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis  wrote:
> 
> Hi Corentin,
> 
> 
> What are the reasons or arguments for the change?
> 
> 
> I find the core of the current logo fine for aesthetics and effective for 
> communication. The only thing I’d change is remove the “Apache” and “®” from 
> it, as both these elements crowd the logo, weakening the focus, and 
> ultimately break the simplicity and modernity of the /initial/ logo (it was a 
> stylistic regression to insert them). Here’s a quick comparison 
> .

One. The circle R is there because Apache OpenOffice is a registered trademark 
in the US and other jurisdictions.

Two. Having Apache present shows where the project is. We do have issues with 
trademark violations and also who trademarks on variants one example is 
OpenOffice.de which either simply republishes our software or for Windows will 
also install unfriendly software that no one wants.

A better version in SVG would be great, but please don’t change the text.

Best,
Dave

> 
> 
> --
> Pagarbiai / Sincerely,
> 📧 Aivaras Stepukonis 
> 
> 2023-08-14 18:30, Corentin Verbrèghe (Manjiro5) rašė:
>> Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I don't 
>> not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented in the 
>> next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think ?
>> Cordially,
>> Manjiro5 (C. Verbreghe)
>> 
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Re: AOO Brand new logo proposal

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> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:36 PM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Manjiro
> 
>> On 08/15/2023 11:27 PM WEST Corentin Verbrèghe 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Do you see the message ? If yes, tell me. Cordially C.Verbreghe
> 
> Yes, we do see your messages.
> 
>>> Hi, I would like to propose a brand new logo for Apache OpenOffice. I
>>> don't not know if I contact the right place. I wish that it be implemented
>>> in the next minor version of AOO if possible, the 4.1.15. What do you think
> 
> A major change such as the main logo can not be implemented in a minor 
> release.

Agreed.
> 
> In any case if you mean the main OpenOffice logo (the blue circle with the 
> white seagulls), I believe is not that easy to change as it is the Trademark 
> for this project.

Logo Trademark is not a major concern or a blocker. The graphic trademarks that 
Sun and Oracle registered are for the OpenOffice.org logo and are mostly 
expired. The ASF focuses are brand name trademarks.

The concern with a new logo design is the many places it is used. A new design 
is 1% of the work.

Inspire us with your concept and we’ll see.

Best,
Dave

> 
> I'm not a lawyer so those with more knowledge please jump in.
> 
> All the best,
> Pedro
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Re: Extensions website and incorrect e-mail

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Where is the incorrect email provided to you? What url do we need to ask 
SourceForge to change?

Best,
Dave

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> On Jul 26, 2023, at 2:30 PM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> When you want to publish an extension, you should to write an e-mail to:
> nore...@extensions.openoffice.org
> But this address is not valid.
> 
> - Mail transféré -
> De: "Mail Delivery System" 
> À: ooofo...@free.fr
> Envoyé: Mercredi 26 Juillet 2023 22:44:06
> Objet: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
> 
> This is the mail system at host smtp...
> 
> I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
> be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
> 
> For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
> 
> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
> delete your own text from the attached returned message.
> 
>   The mail system
> 
> : connect to
>extensions.openoffice.org[204.68.111.101]:25: Connection timed out
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Re: blog migration

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What type of redirects?

There are two kinds:

1) from blogs.apache.org to openoffice.apache.org where we would need infra.
2) within openoffice.apache.org where we can use .htaccess files in the content.

Best,
Dave

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> On Jul 2, 2023, at 2:00 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Marcus,
> 
>> Am 02.07.23 um 08:46 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 30.06.23 um 21:43 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> how do we proceed?
>> 
>> the mission text is now online and linked in the menu.
>> What is missing for you on the website?
> 
> Just quoting Peter:
> 
> "I have not an opinion. The change is prepared on branch
> preview/renameblog.
> 
> We would need another ticket for infra to change the redirects"
> 
> The change is still in the preview branch.
> 
> Apart from that there is a list from Peter with some open points...
> 
> Matthias
> 
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 19.06.23 um 22:24 schrieb Marcus:
 Am 19.06.23 um 22:05 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Am 19.06.23 um 22:00 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 11.06.23 um 19:46 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> BTW:
>>> 
>>> I *think* there is a closing  missing here:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/blob/main/theme/openoffice/templates/blog.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> that's right. I've fixed this now.
> 
> Yes, but is the footer really supposed to be inside the header?!
> 
> I think Peter had fixed it in his preview branch but not committed
> yet:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project/commit/ed60324a8a1efb84b5d075effe3845dd3618aaa7
> 
> 
 
 thanks for the hint.
 
 The footer is defined in the "base.html". I've deleted it from the
 blog page with no negative result.
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
>>> Am 11.06.23 um 19:29 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
 
 Am 11.06.23 um 17:56 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 11.06.23 um 15:59 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Is anyone comfortable with an URL like:
>> 
>> https://openoffice.apache.org/blogpage(.html)
>> 
>> Or should we rename it to "blog" or "blogs"?
>> 
>> In the end this is the URL we will advertise and now would be the
>> best
>> moment to make a decision.
> 
> even when it is indeed a single page where all blog articles
> are, I
> prefer to use just "blog". It's shorter and well known as common
> name
> for such content.
 
 I have not an opinion. The change is prepared on branch
 preview/renameblog.
 
 We would need another ticket for infra to change the redirects
 
 
 All the best
 
 Peter
 
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 11.06.23 um 07:16 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>> FYI after some discussion is slack a ticket for Infra was
>>> opened.
>>> 
>>> the forwarding is now fixed, you may need to empty your cache.
>>> 
>>> Am 10.06.23 um 21:02 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
 Sorry:
 
 https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/
 
 Am 10.06.23 um 20:58 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Hi,
> 
> Am 10.06.23 um 20:38 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> I have put this in the ticket.
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-24222
>> 
>> Am 10.06.23 um 20:17 schrieb Arrigo Marchiori:
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> the "Blog" link at the top-right corner of the homepage
>>> links
>>> to:
>>> https://blogs.apache.org/ooo/
>>> that is not valid.
> It should have been:
> 
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo
> 
> I fixed that now, but the redirection is a bit wrong (see
> ticket).
> 
> When it works we can of course use the "new" URL directly
> on our
> page.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Matthias
> 
>>> I think that the correct URL should rather be:
>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/blogpage.html
>>> 
>>> I made a "git grep blogs.apache.org" and this URL appears
>>> in a
>>> _lot_
>>> of files; for this reason I refrained to try fixing this
>>> myself.
>>> 
>>> I also suggest to make:
>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/blog/
>>> redirect to the above, correct URL
>>> (or maybe, make _this_ the correct URL, as it looks
>>> easier to
>>> type).
>>> 
>>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> 

Re: A Short History on the Term "Bug"

[Dave Fisher]

When I was a child I asked my father “why?”and he told me that the bug was a 
cockroach flipping a bit in core memory - which was a grid of wires where each 
bit was a little magnetic donut.

Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2023, at 6:36 AM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> I came across this bit of trivia on a news group I follow:
> 
> PS --- don't you love the term "bug". Where I used to work, they had the late 
> Grace Murray Hopper in to give us a talk every few years. One of her 
> anecdotes of the early days was how the term came about. One time a "down" 
> was caused by an insect getting into the machine and causing a short. Could 
> just picture the glee of those people as youngsters as they attached the 
> specimen* and pages and pages about its life cycle, etc. to the hated 
> "problem report" they were required to submit for every "down" as a sort of 
> protest. So naturally, the next time they came over with a report on a down 
> the response was "OK, what kind of a bug was it this time".
> 
> * They had sent over to the Smithsonian for an ID and as much information 
> about it as possible, so they had a LOT of pages to append.
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
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Re: blog migration

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> On Jun 2, 2023, at 9:10 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Am 03.06.23 um 01:42 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Excellent work! Thank you!
> Drew and Chris helped a lot. They deserve our thanks.

As always the ASF Infrastructure is first class.

>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jun 2, 2023, at 2:10 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].
>>> 
>>> Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I missed. Or 
>>> Other things we need to look at.
>>> 
>>>  All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all our blog 
>>> post can be found.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Open Points fron my side:
>>> 
>>> # FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten
>> https://openoffice-blog-migration.staged.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html
>> 
>> Correct? This can follow on separately.
> 
> yes. I made the list so it becomes easier to construct a project backlog or 
> similar (see other thread looking for Contributor "campaign"​).

I agree there are many updates that would help the project.

Maybe start creating GitHub issues in OpenOffice-project?

Best,
Dave
> 
>>> # figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General about
>>> 
>>> # fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect
>> I didn’t see any problems on my iPhone browser.
>> 
>> +1 to publish!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1]https://openoffice-blog-migration.staged.apache.org/index.html
>>> 
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Re: blog migration

[Dave Fisher]

Excellent work! Thank you!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 2, 2023, at 2:10 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> The roller migration can be reviewed at [1].
> 
> Please, have a look through the page if something broke that I missed. Or 
> Other things we need to look at.
> 
>  All pages where moved into a page sub folder. In folder blogs all our blog 
> post can be found.
> 
> 
> Open Points fron my side:
> 
> # FAQ - Blog needs to be rewritten

https://openoffice-blog-migration.staged.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html

Correct? This can follow on separately.
> 
> # figure out how we can automate the Announcement part in General about
> 
> # fixate the banner and menu on top without overlap effect

I didn’t see any problems on my iPhone browser.

+1 to publish!

Best,
Dave
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> [1]https://openoffice-blog-migration.staged.apache.org/index.html
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Re: User Installation Process Feedback

[Dave Fisher]

For those just now looking into this here is a link: https://docs.appimage.org/

If we switch to this packaging it appears that we can significantly reduce the 
many Linux packages we create when we release.

Interesting.

Best,
Dave

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> On May 7, 2023, at 9:39 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Any news on this topic?
> 
> If we want it to happen we need to work on it...
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> Am 21.03.23 um 16:19 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Now that AOO 4.1.14 is released wouldn't it be the perfect time to start
>> development on an AppImage (or similar)?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>>> Am 18.02.23 um 13:48 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Am 15.02.23 um 18:05 schrieb Yury Tarasievich:
 On 15/02/2023 19:39, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
 
> I documented 8 projects that tried to achieve that and compared them
> in the attached spreadsheet, and there are more.
 The document is a beaut, but you've excluded Flatpak and Snap, one of
 which you sort of condemn and one of which you recommend, nevertheless.
 
 Why not AppImage, for which half a work is already there, AFAIU ? (I
 mean `installed` method of packaging) So it hasn't got sandboxing. Is
 it such a big deal?
>>> I don't think we need sandboxing in the first place.
>>> 
>>> An easy to install package for Linux would be good, so maybe we can try
>>> to do an Appimage package after the release of AOO 4.1.14?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>Matthias
>>> 
 Also, any new packaging method would have to integrate into the
 existing build framework? Which isn't exactly a model of clarity and
 robustness?
 
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Re: Icons proposal

[Dave Fisher]

Xavier,

Thank you for your proposed icons. I’m sorry that your response to a live 
discussion about them has caused you to claim that AOO is dead.

All the best,
Dave

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> On Apr 13, 2023, at 7:02 AM, Xavier Verbrèghe  
> wrote:
> 
> At least LibreOffice is not dead unlike AOO and its dated appearance has
> finished it. LO used AOO and not the other way around, so we can change.
> Furthermore, LO and AOO will not be confused because it is absurd to have
> the 2 software on your computer. I understand your attachment to the AOO
> from a decade ago
> 
>> Le jeu. 13 avr. 2023 à 15:13, Dave  a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/04/2023 19:56, Xavier Verbreghe wrote:
>>> Hi, I wanted to show you the icons I made to potentially replace the AOO
>>> base icons in the future.
>>> 
>>> I made icons for software (Writer, Base, Draw, Math, Impress, Calc), but
>>> also for different filetypes.
>>> 
>>> Could you take a look and tell me what you think?
>>> 
>>> I am making an icon pack for the interior of the different software.
>>> 
>>> Here’s the link to see my proposal :
>>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zaocgHeB30J5J-IGLnXAEPdeGKc075Iz?usp=sharing
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Manjiro5
>>> Corentin VERBREGHE
>> 
>> Possible user confusion. Icons look very like LO with gulls added.
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Re: A Message from the Board to PMC members

[Dave Fisher]

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> On Apr 7, 2023, at 7:24 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
>> Am 05.04.23 um 07:48 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> What do you suggest?
>> I do not see in the mail calls for action in this regard. And the status quo 
>> is that we will not Push anyone out or define some sort of activity 
>> requirement.
> 
> I clearly see a message to all of our PMC members, that are inactive for
> years (without notifying the PMC), not subscribed to private@ or working
> for a company that probably forbids them to contribute to our project to
> take action!
> 
> The reason for our "Status Quo" is just that nobody wanted to invest the
> time.
> 
> But let's take that discussion to private@.

1. I view this part as a message to PMCs where there are not enough active PMC 
members. We have enough active members.

2. My personal opinion is that inactive PMC members are not a problem.

3. PMC members energy would be better spent finding new committers and 
promoting committers to the PMC.

It’s time to work on the board report. I’ll include a summary activity review 
of the PMC members.

Best,
Dave
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> 
>> All the best
>> Peter
>> 
>> Am 4. April 2023 17:13:02 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel 
>> :
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> time to start a discussion about our dormant PMC members?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>Matthias
>>> 
>>> Am 29.03.23 um 14:42 schrieb Rich Bowen:
 Dear Apache Project Management Committee (PMC) members,
 
 The Board wants to take just a moment of your time to communicate a few
 things that seem to have been forgotten by a number of PMC members,
 across the Foundation, over the past few years.  Please note that this
 is being sent to all projects - yours has not been singled out.
 
 The Project Management Committee (PMC) as a whole[1] is tasked with the
 oversight, health, and sustainability of the project. The PMC members
 are responsible collectively, and individually, for ensuring that the
 project operates in a way that is in line with ASF philosophy, and in a
 way that serves the developers and users of the project.
 
 The PMC Chair is not the project leader, in any sense. It is the person
 who files board reports and makes sure they are delivered on time. It
 is the secretary for the project, and the project’s  ambassador to the
 Board of Directors. The VP title is given as an artifact of US
 corporate law, and not because the PMC Chair has any special powers. If
 you are treating your PMC Chair as the project lead, or granting them
 any other special powers or privileges, you need to be aware that
 that’s not the intent of the Chair role. The Chair is a PMC member peer
 with a few extra duties.
 
 Every PMC member has an equal voice in deliberations. Each has one
 vote. Each has veto power. Every vote weighs the same. It is not only
 your right, but it is your obligation, to use that vote for the good of
 the project and its users, not to appease the Chair, your employer, or
 any other voice in the project. 
 
 Every PMC member can, and should, nominate new committers, and new PMC
 members. This is not the sole domain of the PMC Chair. This might be
 your most important responsibility to the project, as succession
 planning is the path to sustainability.
 
 Every PMC member can, and should, respond when the Board sends email to
 your private list. You should not wait for the PMC Chair to respond.
 The Board views the entire PMC as responsible for the project, not just
 one member.
 
 Every PMC member should be subscribed to the private@ mailing list. If
 you are not, then you are neglecting your duty of oversight. If you no
 longer wish to be responsible for oversight of the project, you should
 resign your PMC seat, not merely drop off of the private@ list and
 ignore it. You can determine which PMC members are not subscribed to
 your private list by looking at your PMC roster at
 https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/  Names with an asterisk (*)
 next to them are not subscribed to the list. We encourage you to take a
 moment to contact them with this information.
 
 Thank you for your attention to these matters, and thank you for
 keeping our projects healthy.
 
 Rich, for The Board of Directors
 
 [1] https://apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#pmc-members
 
 
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Re: Committers do not have write access?

[Dave Fisher]

Have you connected your GitHub account to your Apache id?

1. Enable 2FA on GitHub
2. Login to id.apache.org to map your GitHub id.
3. Wait up to an hour for the ASF to update the GitHub permissions.

If that fails then we’ll need more discussion.

Best,
Dave

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> On Mar 9, 2023, at 9:59 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> I tried to make a trivial correction to one page of our website, as per
> the instructions here:
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/README.md#quick-updates-to-a-single-file
> I navigate to the specific page and select the "Edit this file" option,
> then I receive the following message:
> You’re making changes in a project you don’t have write access to.
> Submitting a change will write it to a new branch in your fork
> b-m-c-s/openoffice-project, so you can send a pull request.
> Is the README.md file incorrect or is there something I am overlooking?
> 
> Dave
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Re: AOO 4.1.14

[Dave Fisher]

Get well soon! You have my sympathy.

Best,
Dave

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> On Feb 7, 2023, at 9:41 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> hope it is not to bad :(
> 
> Best recovery to you!
> 
>> Am 07.02.23 um 15:09 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi Carl,
>> 
>>> Am 07.02.23 um 14:52 schrieb Carl Marcum:
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> On 2/7/23 4:48 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I think it is time for the next release.
 
 I have created the Release Schedule [1] for AOO 4.1.14 now. Please join!
 
 Regards,
 
  Matthias
 
 [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.14
 
 
>>> I volunteered for QA and announcements.
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> After all the time avoiding it I am now Corona positive...
>> 
>> However, I may still be able to do basic work.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>Matthias
>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Carl
>>> 
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Re: Editing Website

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Dave,

That is very much obsolete and the Apache CMS has been deprecated for well over 
a year.

The project site and OpenOffice.org are both in GitHub and using ASF Pelican:

See https://github.com/apache/openoffice-project and 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org - the README.md files have 
instructions.

Best,
Dave

> On Jan 24, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Dave  wrote:
> 
> It's been a while since I last edited pages on the website. I previously
> edited pages using the browser-based editing workflow as described here:
> https://openoffice.apache.org/docs/edit-cms.html#browser-based-editing-workflow
> Now when I go to edit a page clicking my JavaScript bookmarklet returns:
> can’t connect to the server at cms.apache.org.
> 
> Did I miss the memo about some change in this procedure, or is there
> another problem?
> 
> TIA
> Dave
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[ANNOUNCE] Maintenance Window on Forums and Wiki

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ASF Infrastructure Scheduled routine maintenance, OpenOffice forums and wiki 
starting at Jan 11, 2023 - 11:00AM UTC and ending at Jan 11, 2023 - 11:15AM UTC.

The server hosting the OpenOffice forums and Wiki will be undergoing routine 
maintenance on Wednesday the 11th of January at 11AM UTC. We expect this 
operation to last 10-15 minutes at most, during which the OpenOffice forums and 
wiki will be unavailable.

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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

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> On Dec 7, 2022, at 1:14 PM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Did you rewrite or reuse?
>> If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the 
>> copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.
>> The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative 
>> Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Dave;
> 
> Thank you for your insight into this. The Guides were always going to be 
> licensed under cc-by 3.0 or greater, and are a reuse of the 3.3 Guides by the 
> OOo Authors Team. So the Copyright would be to The ASF with an 
> Acknowledgement to the 3.3 Guide with its copyright. Does that sound right to 
> you?

Yes

Best,
Dave
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
> 
>>>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
>>> "Keith N. McKenna"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User
>>>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) The ASF
>>>> 2) The Project
>>>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>>>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>>>> 
>>>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is
>>>> definitely not my strong suite.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be 
>>> helpful
>>> 
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Rory O'Farrell 
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Re: Question on the Copyright Holder for the 4.1 User Docs

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Did you rewrite or reuse?

If just a rewrite then copyright should be the ASF. If you reused then the 
copyright is both the ASF for the new work while retaining prior copyright.

The unasked question is the license and you’ll have to choose the Creative 
Commons license plus decide if that allows overall license to be AL2 or not.

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> On Dec 6, 2022, at 12:53 PM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 15:39:52 -0500
> "Keith N. McKenna"  wrote:
> 
>> I am a bit out of my depth on Copyright Holder for the updated 4.1 User 
>> Guides should be. I see foure possible scenarios for this.
>> 
>> 1) The ASF
>> 2) The Project
>> 3) The Documentation Team.
>> 4) Listing the Individual Contributors
>> 
>> If anyone has other suggestions please bring them forward, as this is 
>> definitely not my strong suite.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Keith
> 
> Have a look at Page 2 of the 3.3 Getting Started Guide.  That might be helpful
> 
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/w/images/3/32/0100GS33-GettingStartedOOo33.pdf
> 
> -- 
> Rory O'Farrell 
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Re: Forums and Wiki outage

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Seems to be ok now.

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> On Sep 30, 2022, at 9:22 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Am 30.09.22 um 15:37 schrieb Bidouille:
>> Hello team,
>> Both are offline :-(
> I can reach Forums and Wiki. Have you tried a VPN?.
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Re: [codehealth] casting int to a pointer

[Dave Fisher]

This looks like a 32bit/64bit issue.

1. How widespread are problems with C99 in the codebase?

2. Are the fixes obvious, scriptable, and tested?

If the answers are easily known then let’s talk effort for trunk.

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> On Sep 22, 2022, at 10:08 PM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> We cast int to (void*) -> (example in main/sw/source/ui/fldui/changedb.cxx  
> line 234)
> 
> In general this sounds like not a sane idea to me, see discussions [1] [2] 
> [3]. The solution that the c++ community found is the use of intptr_t, which 
> is defined in C99.
> 
> In general I would like to get rid of these casts. However as a quick fix it 
> would make sense to use intptr_t as a first measure.
> 
> Is there any reason that would block the move to C99? I guess C99 should be 
> supported by all the compilers we require . (c11 is currently not available 
> on all Plattforms we support.)
> 
> 
> 
> [1] 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26805461/why-do-i-get-cast-from-pointer-to-integer-of-different-size-error
> 
> [2] 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/25381610/cast-int-to-pointer-why-cast-to-long-first-as-in-p-void-42
> 
> [3] 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6326338/why-when-to-use-intptr-t-for-type-casting-in-c
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Reboot openoffice-vm1

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Perfect - thanks.

> On Sep 13, 2022, at 8:38 AM, Gavin McDonald  wrote:
> 
> Ok, I didn't get to this, but with no more feedback I will perform the
> reboot tomorrow at 9am UTC
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 4:32 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Gavin,
>> 
>> I’m discussing an announcement with the Forum Administrators. Unless I get
>> back to you would you please pick a convenient time on Thursday. If it
>> matters, I won’t really be available if there is trouble until next week.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Gavin McDonald  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 2:53 PM Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> The macine runs Forum and Wiki service.
>>> 
>>> We should announce a the short reboot.
>>> 
>> 
>> Ok, I can do this at any time, so please go ahead and announce to the
>> users a date this week and let me know.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> Am 03.09.22 um 11:29 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> What machines run on openoffice-vm1? Is that documented anywhere?
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I have no objections against a short reboot...
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>Matthias
>>>> 
>>>> Am 02.09.22 um 10:56 schrieb Gavin McDonald:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to schedule a reboot of the above vm to pull in some os
>>> updates.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can I just go ahead or would you prefer to schedule a day and time?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Downtime should be around 1 minute
>>>>> 
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Re: Reboot openoffice-vm1

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Gavin,

I’m discussing an announcement with the Forum Administrators. Unless I get back 
to you would you please pick a convenient time on Thursday. If it matters, I 
won’t really be available if there is trouble until next week.

Regards,
Dave

> On Sep 3, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Gavin McDonald  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 2:53 PM Peter Kovacs  > wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The macine runs Forum and Wiki service.
> 
> We should announce a the short reboot.
> 
> Ok, I can do this at any time, so please go ahead and announce to the 
> users a date this week and let me know.
>  
> 
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter
> 
> Am 03.09.22 um 11:29 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > What machines run on openoffice-vm1? Is that documented anywhere?
> >
> > Personally, I have no objections against a short reboot...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Matthias
> >
> > Am 02.09.22 um 10:56 schrieb Gavin McDonald:
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I'd like to schedule a reboot of the above vm to pull in some os updates.
> >>
> >> Can I just go ahead or would you prefer to schedule a day and time?
> >>
> >> Downtime should be around 1 minute
> >>
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Re: Templates Website Failure

[Dave Fisher]

> On Aug 29, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
> 
> On 29/08/22 Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> We have 3 servers. Maybe we can deploy the service there?
> 
> Technically this would be possible, sure

Yes, but do we want to support Drupal ourselves? It’s something like OpenGrok, 
Pootle, MediaWiki, and phpBB that will need periodic maintenance.

> 
> But I think these sites were moved to external hosting since the ASF had 
> concerns, at the time, with the many different licenses used by the 
> Extensions and Templates hosted on those sites.

Exactly

> 
> I don't know if things have changed now. Otherwise this would still be the 
> main reason for hosting the two sites outside the ASF.

And still.

> 
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>  Andrea.
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Re: Wiki and Forum offliune (again)?

[Dave Fisher]

They are online for me. 107 users on the en forum in the last 5 minutes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 11, 2022, at 5:04 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> 
> Just noticed this one not the earlier.
> Sent a mail to Infra and they will probably investigate.
> Let you know if I hear back from them
> 
> Greetings
> 
>> On 2022/08/11 11:57:44 Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Am 11.08.22 um 13:52 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
>>> 
>>> On 2022/08/11 11:20:45 Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Subject says it all.
 
 Today first the Wiki then the forum went offline. I think they are on
 the same machine?
 
 Regards,
 
Matthias
 
>>> They just came back on my site :-)
>> 
>> Confirmed!
>> 
>> But this was the second(?) time in a few days...
>> 
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Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects

[Dave Fisher]

After 21 years working with users of OpenOffice.org, Apache OpenOffice, and 
LibreOffice Dave’s experience should be respected and not dismissed.

Assume a bad day or frustration instead of further reaction. Apologizing for 
misunderstanding someone is good, friendly community building.

Assume the best,
Dave

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> On Aug 2, 2022, at 8:49 AM, Peter kovacs  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Can you explain?
> I do not understand why Dave is angry. 
> I dont think Matthias wanted to offend Dave.
> 
> Thanks.
> Peter
> 
> Am 2. August 2022 16:54:04 MESZ schrieb Dave Fisher :
>> I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion.
>> 
>> If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from 
>> moderation.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Dave
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am not sure what happened here...
>>> 
>>> But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter".
>>> 
>>> According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We
>>> should discuss if we need to remove his rights.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>>   Matthias
>>> 
>>>> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>> I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage
>>>> quit.
>>>> 
>>>> There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to
>>>> late for that.
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave:
>>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you
>>>>> had absolutely no sense of humour.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you
>>>>> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted)
>>>>> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess
>>>>> who they might be.
>>>>> 
>>>>> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here
>>>>> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list
>>>>> will now be directed to null/dev.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BYE AOO!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave:
>>>>>>> Hi Matthias,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sorry, but you loose that bet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and
>>>>>>> installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only
>>>>>>> readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with
>>>>>>> 16Gb
>>>>>>> RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close
>>>>>>> enough.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer
>>>>>>> SOMETHING to assist Peter.
>>>>>> I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> @Peter:
>>>>>>> On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO
>>>>>>> 4.1.13
>>>>>>> edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of
>>>>>>> to create a crash, but it remained rock solid.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is there any difference between the RC and released code?
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Matthias
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>

Re: [AOO4.1.13] Performance Issues in writer with OLE objects

[Dave Fisher]

I think you owe Dave an apology, but that’s just my opinion.

If he has truly moved on I expect him to be professional and resign from 
moderation.

All the best,
Dave

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> On Aug 2, 2022, at 2:20 AM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> I am not sure what happened here...
> 
> But his statement is clear, he now wants to be an "Anti-AOO promoter".
> 
> According to Whimsy he is moderator of several OO mailing lists. We
> should discuss if we need to remove his rights.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> Am 02.08.22 um 07:21 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> I am surprised on the end of this discussion. I did not expect a rage
>> quit.
>> 
>> There is no reason to take this personal. But well I guess it is to
>> late for that.
>> 
>>> Am 01.08.22 um 23:02 schrieb Dave:
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Sorry, when I used the jovial expression "HOARDS" I didn't realise you
>>> had absolutely no sense of humour.
>>> 
>>> Since 2001 I have trained more users of OOO.org, AOO and LO than you
>>> have ever had contact with. So please do NOT! (expletives deleted)
>>> talk down to me about users. I know users, YOU DO NOT, you only guess
>>> who they might be.
>>> 
>>> YOU have just won your beloved project an Anti-AOO promoter. From here
>>> on the ASF and AOO can "Stick it where the sun don't shine".
>>> 
>>> Don't waste time with any replies, because all messages from this list
>>> will now be directed to null/dev.
>>> 
>>> BYE AOO!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 01/08/2022 21:28, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 
 Am 01.08.22 um 22:17 schrieb Dave:
> Hi Matthias,
> 
> Sorry, but you loose that bet.
> 
> I temporarily put aside my loathing and detestation of GNOME and
> installed the standard Ubuntu 22.04 GNOME desktop edition. My only
> readily available box was an AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core Processor with
> 16Gb
> RAM. Not an exact match for Peter's hardware, but possibly close
> enough.
> 
> Pity these galactic hoards of GNOME users didn't step up and offer
> SOMETHING to assist Peter.
 I never spoke of *hoards* but I don't think we should ignore our user.
 
 And users normally don't step up, that needs a developer.
 
> @Peter:
> On this Ubuntu setup I removed LO and installed the released AOO
> 4.1.13
> edition. I opened your document and tried every trick I could think of
> to create a crash, but it remained rock solid.
> 
> Is there any difference between the RC and released code?
 No.
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
> Regards
> Dave
> 
> 
> On 01/08/2022 17:32, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> Am 01.08.22 um 18:25 schrieb Dave:
>>> Hi Matthias,
>>> 
>>> Cinnamon, but I run PCLinuxOS KDE on my main production box.
>>> 
>>> I have never been a fan of GNOME.
>> I bet you would get a crash when using GNOME. ;-)
>> 
>> Someone should have a look into it, these crashes are annoying and
>> a lot
>> of people *are* using GNOME...
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Matthias
>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On 01/08/2022 16:59, Matthias Seidel wrote:
 Hi Dave,
 
 Which desktop environment are you using on Linux Mint?
 
 We do have some issues with Ubuntu (GNOME) and other
 distributions when
 GNOME is used as DE.
 
 Regards,
 
 Matthias
 
 Am 01.08.22 um 17:53 schrieb Dave:
> On 01/08/2022 06:57, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I had this morning some wired effects, during my work with AOO.
>> 
>> As soon as I have added a OLE Calc part through Copy&Paste (From
>> LibreOffice :-D ), I get performance issues including crashes.
>> 
>> Has anyone heard of performance issues in this constraint?
>> 
>> Check out the document:
>> 
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZScKadukzWfZGeJWsTEaGf1ORrLrmwGl/view?usp=sharing
>> 
>> 
>> I am on Ubunutu 20.04. AOO is the 4.1.13 RC candidate.
>> 
>> My machine is an Intel I5, with 32GB, and SSD hard disk. (So
>> recent fast
>> machine)
>> 
>> All the best
>> 
>> Peter
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Not sure if this will be of any help to you.
> 
> My hardware spec is very similar to yours and I am  on Linux
> Mint 20.3
> 
> I don't get any (performance issues?) with your document in AOO
> 4.1.13
> (Released) and no crash when editing the OLE Calc object, with
> either
> AOO or LibreOffice on Linux.
> 
> However, I do get a 100% reproducible crash when attempting to
> edit the
> OLE Calc object in your document with LibreOffice 7.3.5.2 x64
> on

Re: promoting stage to prod for openoffice.org

[Dave Fisher]

It’s a manual Jenkins job. Instructions are in Github: 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org#manual-publishing

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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:08 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> How do i start the build for prod or is this triggered automaticly.
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> All the best
> 
> Peter
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Re: [DISCUSS] 4.1.13 release user profile warning

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> On Jul 14, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Carl Marcum  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> As it seems the AOO 4.1.13 RC1 vote may pass (hopefully soon ), I'm working 
> on the announce email and blog post.
> 
> Since the .openoffice user profile is not backward compatible with previous 
> 4.1 versions for stored passwords, should we place a warning for users to 
> back up up their user profile  in the announce email, blog post, release 
> notes, etc. or not necessary?

We should! It’s always a good idea to backup your user profile when upgrading. 
Humans often forget. It’s alwsys good idea to remind people to backup.

Best,
Dave
> 
> Best regards,
> Carl
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Re: Size limits on mwiki for uploaded files are too small

[Dave Fisher]

See https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads

Please let us know the error message.

I’ve cc’d sysadmin@openoffice I can take a look in the next day or so.

Regards,
Dave


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> On Jun 6, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Keith N. McKenna  
> wrote:
> 
> The documentation team is starting to publish the 4.1 getting started guide 
> and have run into a problem. The 2MB upload limit is far to small for the ODT 
> and the PDF file for the complete Guide.
> 
> The ODT file is 7.1 MB, and the Writer one will most likely be bigger.The 
> smallest I have been able to get the converted PDF is 31MB.
> 
> I know that we have some ODT files already on the mwike that are 11MB. What 
> would be the best way to get the limit raised so that the ODT can be uploaded?
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
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Re: Forums: BBcode for [rel] links broken

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Hagar,

I’ve asked Infra to make some changes to how the user.services.openoffice.org 
domain is handled.

Currently it is an alias (CNAME) for forum.openoffice.org. We are changing it 
into a redirect from another server.

Once that is done we will see if this just fixes itself or if a restart and 
cache clearance is required.

> On May 30, 2022, at 1:01 PM, Hagar Delest  wrote:
> 
> Hi (Dave),
> 
> There is a problem at least in the EN forum with links made with the [rel] 
> BBcode tag.
> The base url seems to have reverted to 
> "https://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/"; instead of 
> "https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/";.
> The consequence is that there is no redirection but an error message from the 
> browser (tested with Firefox on Xubuntu 22.04 only), stating that there may 
> be a security risk following that link (translation from my French error 
> message).
> It used to worked after the migration (it needed a tweak however).
> 
> I checked in the admin panel of the phpBB interface but I've not found any 
> string in the interface. Seems to be something in a configuration file on the 
> server.
> 
> Note: I always took the pain to write my links with that BBcode to make it 
> more lean but this issue quite defeats the point.
> 
> Thanks.
> Hagar
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Re: Spam on the AOO forum

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> On May 26, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, I had seen. But the choice is limited and then I can't take
>> action for existing passwords.
> 
> You could send a mass e-mail to all users (ACP > SYSTEM > General Tasks > 
> Mass e-mail) 
> If Dave is OK, it is possible to add this extension:
> https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/extension/selective_mass_emails

Since each forum is now a separate installation of phpBB 3.3.7 it much less 
dangerous to try something normal out.

You should try to install it from the admin UI to see if it works. If not then 
I can have a look.

We should track this through a forum topic in the expected place.

ATB,
Dave


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Re: Warning macro with OXT

[Dave Fisher]

There have been security fixes related to macros since 4.1.7. Please take a 
look at the security reports. It’s likely this warning is a result. There is a 
white list and possibly this type needs to be added.

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> On May 22, 2022, at 11:11 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> This problem does not occurs on 4.1.11
> So regression?
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Bidouille" 
>> À: "dev" 
>> Envoyé: Dimanche 22 Mai 2022 18:00:35
>> Objet: Warning macro with OXT
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> AOO 4.1.12 with Windows 7
>> Before you must have to install MRI OXT
>> When you run Tools/Add-ons/MRI menu
>> Security macro warning appears
>> Do you have same problem?
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Re: Connection not secure on openoffice.org

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

It looks like the redirection from http to https is failing from Firefox. I see 
the trouble if I just type in OpenOffice.org, but I don’t if I type in 
https://www.openoffice.org

All The Best,
Dave

> On May 21, 2022, at 11:50 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all
> 
> Firefox reports "Connection not secure"
> Reasons:
> This website does not supply ownership information.
> and
> Connection not encrypted
> 
> Is this a new issue or was it me who had never noticed before?
> 
> Regards,
> Pedro


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Re: Forums and FAQ

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Marcus,

We don’t have the German Forum on forum.openoffice.org - we link to here: 
https://www.openoffice.org/de/foren.html and that links to here: 
https://www.openoffice-forum.de

Best,
Dave

> On May 16, 2022, at 10:37 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 10.05.22 um 02:25 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> We need versions of the following strings to add for each language:
>> ./language/en/help/faq.php
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => 'OpenOffice.org 
>> Community Forum Specific Issues',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 'Where can I find 
>> FAQs relating specifically to OpenOffice.org products?',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE'=> 'We don\'t maintain 
>> an FAQ per se, but you is you start with our > href="/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=166">Survival Guide, this will explain 
>> how to go about using the forum.  You will also find specific tutorials in 
>> the Tutorials forum.  You can 
>> also use the https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/";>OpenOffice wiki 
>> as a knowledge source.',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK'   => ‘
>> How do I ask a question?',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW'  => 'Please read 
>> the Survival Guide before you 
>> post. These guidelines and rules help the community to make the 
>> most of this forum. The remainder of this FAQ coverts general 
>> issues to do with the using phpBB3.',
>> Here’s where the strings are used.
>> ./phpbb/help/controller/faq.php
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 
>> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW',
> 
> can someone show me where the German strings would show up in the forum?
> For a (still needed ?) translation I need a bit context.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> On May 9, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Small problem with FAQ on all forums except EN
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/fr/forum/download/file.php?id=145454
>>> 
>>> I don't know how these strings has been added.
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Pedro,

The forum now uses responsive css and when narrow the header is suppressed.

Regards,
Dave

> On May 10, 2022, at 1:46 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dave
> 
> I will upload or send to you by email the SVG(s) later today.
> 
> Can you use the SVG directly on the page? Wouldn't that be preferable instead 
> of PNGs?
> 
> Separate issue:
> I opened the Spanish forum on Firefox running on Linux and it looks good. 
> However opening the same page on Android is missing some elements. I used 
> Firefox and Vivaldi and in both the top bar is missing as well as the 
> "Enlaces rápidos" text
> I just switched to the EN page and the same problems occur on my Android 
> 7.1.2 mobile
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/10/2022 2:03 AM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pedro,
>> 
>> You can see the new logo (you may have to clear cache) at 
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/ along with other forum sites.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi again
>>> 
>>> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload 
>>> it to)
>>> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
>>> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
>>> 
>>> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
>>> 
>>> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update 
>>> it or simply send the SVG
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Pedro
>>> 
>>>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi -
>>>> 
>>>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of 
>>>> our website logos:
>>>> 
>>>> We have an svg version of the orb here: 
>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>>>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>>>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>>>> 
>>>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>>>> 
>>>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra 
>>>> credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. 
>>>> VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>>>> 
>>>> (2) The website logo - 
>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>>>> 
>>>> The size is 268px x 100px
>>>> 
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki and Forums

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> On May 15, 2022, at 10:00 AM, Pedro Lino  
> wrote:
> 
> After emptying the cache, the links reported by the OP do work, but on the 
> page below the Database now works but not the Mailing Lists
> 
> Is this a separate issue?

Yes. Most of the old OOo project specific mailing lists were never moved to the 
ASF.

A new target for these links is required.

> 
> Regards,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/15/2022 2:30 PM Dick Groskamp  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Just found another one on the wiki:
>> 
>> http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/DatabaseTeamsite/ooQA-TeamDatabaseLinks.html
>> points to several links, of which most work correctly.
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Re: Forums and FAQ

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Hi Dick,

I’ve updated the NL forum and confirmed the change.

ATB,
Dave

> On May 10, 2022, at 2:42 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> for Dutch (NL) you might want to use:
> 
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => 'OpenOffice gemeenschap Forum Specifieke 
> problemen',
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND'   => 'Waar vind ik FAQ's die specifiek 
> een relatie hebben met producten van OpenOffice?',
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE'  => 'We onderhouden niet per se een FAQ, maar het beste 
> is als u begint met Lees dit 
> eerst, wat u zal uitleggen hoe het forum te gebruiken.  U kunt ook 
> specifieke handleidingen vinden in het forum  href="/nl/forum/viewforum.php?f=4">Tutorials.  U kunt ook de  href="https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/NL/Main_Page";>OpenOffice wiki 
> gebruiken als een kennisbron.',
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => ‘
> Hoe stel ik een vraag?',
> 
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW'=> 'Lees eerst het gedeelte  href="/nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2">Lees dit eerst voordat u een vraag 
> stelt. Deze richtlijnen en regels helpen de gemeenschap om het 
> meeste uit dit forum te halen. De rest van deze FAQ behandelt 
> algemene problemen die te maken hebben met het gebruiken van phpBB3.',
> 
> On 2022/05/10 00:25:55 Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> We need versions of the following strings to add for each language:
>> 
>> ./language/en/help/faq.php
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => 'OpenOffice.org 
>> Community Forum Specific Issues',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 'Where can I find 
>> FAQs relating specifically to OpenOffice.org products?',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE'=> 'We don\'t maintain 
>> an FAQ per se, but you is you start with our > href="/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=166">Survival Guide, this will explain 
>> how to go about using the forum.  You will also find specific tutorials in 
>> the Tutorials forum.  You can 
>> also use the https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/";>OpenOffice wiki 
>> as a knowledge source.',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK'   => ‘
>> How do I ask a question?',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW'  => 'Please read 
>> the Survival Guide before you 
>> post. These guidelines and rules help the community to make the 
>> most of this forum. The remainder of this FAQ coverts general 
>> issues to do with the using phpBB3.',
>> 
>> Here’s where the strings are used.
>> 
>> ./phpbb/help/controller/faq.php
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 
>> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE',
>>  'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW',
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 9, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Small problem with FAQ on all forums except EN
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/fr/forum/download/file.php?id=145454
>>> 
>>> I don't know how these strings has been added.
>>> 
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Re: Forums and FAQ

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Bidouille,

I’ve updated the FR forum and confirmed the change.

ATB,
Dave


> On May 10, 2022, at 2:34 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sorry, some error in previous post
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => ' Forum OpenOffice et problèmes spécifiques',
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 'Où puis-je trouver une FAQ dédiée aux 
> modules de la suite OpenOffice ?',
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE' => 'La plupart des réponses se trouvent en faisant une 
> recherche par ce formulaire mais 
> vous pouvez trouver d\'autres informations détaillées sur cette  href="https://fr.openoffice.org/Documentation>page.',
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => 'Comment poser une question ?',
> 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW' => 'Dans un premier temps, merci de lire notre  href="/fr/forum/ftopic35311.html">mode d\'emploi.',
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki and Forums

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I submitted a new PR for the wikinew redirection issue.

> On May 15, 2022, at 9:10 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> This is working. You might need to clear web cache. For some reason it 
> redirects to wikinew.openoffice.org, but it works.
> 
> 
>> On May 15, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> In the recent updates of the wiki and forums they were put onto the same 
>> virtual machine.
>> 
>> I think the current problem is due to the wiki section in the httpd.conf not 
>> recognizing that the wiki.services.openoffice.org domain coming in to the 
>> server is a wiki request. The forum then gets it.
>> 
>> I’ve submitted a PR to ASF Infra puppet to attempt to fix this issue. It 
>> being Sunday it may take some time before it is merged and after that up to 
>> an hour before puppet applies the change.
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just found another one on the wiki:
>>> 
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/DatabaseTeamsite/ooQA-TeamDatabaseLinks.html
>>> points to several links, of which most work correctly.
>>> 
>>> However, the link to Database Wiki, which is:
>>> wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database 
>>> redirects to
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database
>>> 
>>> but should redirect to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database.
>>> 
>>> Therefore I think that Matthias is right. There is something going wrong on 
>>> the wiki with the redirects from "wiki.services.>> wanna_go>...".
>>> 
>>> Redirections go inadvertently to "forum.openoffice.org"
>>> 
>>> They should redirect to "wiki.openoffice.org/" but they redirect now to 
>>> "forum.openoffice.org" which throws a 404. Changing "forum" on the 404 to 
>>> "wiki" will give you the right page.
>>> 
>>> I have no clue as where to search for the error, but I assume its somewhere 
>>> in the configuration of the forum
>>> 
>>> On 2022/05/15 08:15:45 Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>>> Binjour!
>>>> 
>>>> This list is the right place to ask.
>>>> 
>>>> Both Links point to missing Articles on the Forum. Since we updated the 
>>>> Forum software, could it be that links has been changed?
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe searching on the en Forum would help and renew the link.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 15.05.22 um 09:12 schrieb Troumad libertysurf:
>>>>> [FR]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bonjour
>>>>> 
>>>>> Je ne sais où parler de ce problème. Si on me dit tant-pis, je ne les 
>>>>> remonterais plus...
>>>>> Sur la page 
>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>>>  
>>>>> il y a deux liens qui ne répondent plus :
>>>>> 
>>>>>   OfficeDev - Document Events
>>>>>   Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> [EN by https://www.deepl.com/]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know where to talk about this problem. If someone tells me no 
>>>>> more, I won't bring them up again...
>>>>> On the page 
>>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>>>  
>>>>> there are two links that don't work anymore:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   OfficeDev - Document Events
>>>>>   Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>>>> 
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki and Forums

[Dave Fisher]

This is working. You might need to clear web cache. For some reason it 
redirects to wikinew.openoffice.org, but it works.


> On May 15, 2022, at 7:15 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> In the recent updates of the wiki and forums they were put onto the same 
> virtual machine.
> 
> I think the current problem is due to the wiki section in the httpd.conf not 
> recognizing that the wiki.services.openoffice.org domain coming in to the 
> server is a wiki request. The forum then gets it.
> 
> I’ve submitted a PR to ASF Infra puppet to attempt to fix this issue. It 
> being Sunday it may take some time before it is merged and after that up to 
> an hour before puppet applies the change.
> 
>> On May 15, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
>> 
>> Just found another one on the wiki:
>> 
>> http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/DatabaseTeamsite/ooQA-TeamDatabaseLinks.html
>> points to several links, of which most work correctly.
>> 
>> However, the link to Database Wiki, which is:
>> wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database 
>> redirects to
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database
>> 
>> but should redirect to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database.
>> 
>> Therefore I think that Matthias is right. There is something going wrong on 
>> the wiki with the redirects from "wiki.services".
>> 
>> Redirections go inadvertently to "forum.openoffice.org"
>> 
>> They should redirect to "wiki.openoffice.org/" but they redirect now to 
>> "forum.openoffice.org" which throws a 404. Changing "forum" on the 404 to 
>> "wiki" will give you the right page.
>> 
>> I have no clue as where to search for the error, but I assume its somewhere 
>> in the configuration of the forum
>> 
>> On 2022/05/15 08:15:45 Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> Binjour!
>>> 
>>> This list is the right place to ask.
>>> 
>>> Both Links point to missing Articles on the Forum. Since we updated the 
>>> Forum software, could it be that links has been changed?
>>> 
>>> Maybe searching on the en Forum would help and renew the link.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 15.05.22 um 09:12 schrieb Troumad libertysurf:
>>>> [FR]
>>>> 
>>>> Bonjour
>>>> 
>>>> Je ne sais où parler de ce problème. Si on me dit tant-pis, je ne les 
>>>> remonterais plus...
>>>> Sur la page 
>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>>  
>>>> il y a deux liens qui ne répondent plus :
>>>> 
>>>>OfficeDev - Document Events
>>>>Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [EN by https://www.deepl.com/]
>>>> 
>>>> Hello
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know where to talk about this problem. If someone tells me no 
>>>> more, I won't bring them up again...
>>>> On the page 
>>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>>  
>>>> there are two links that don't work anymore:
>>>> 
>>>>OfficeDev - Document Events
>>>>Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>>> 
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Re: Reporting a problem with the OpenOffice Wiki and Forums

[Dave Fisher]

In the recent updates of the wiki and forums they were put onto the same 
virtual machine.

I think the current problem is due to the wiki section in the httpd.conf not 
recognizing that the wiki.services.openoffice.org domain coming in to the 
server is a wiki request. The forum then gets it.

I’ve submitted a PR to ASF Infra puppet to attempt to fix this issue. It being 
Sunday it may take some time before it is merged and after that up to an hour 
before puppet applies the change.

> On May 15, 2022, at 6:30 AM, Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> 
> Just found another one on the wiki:
> 
> http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/DatabaseTeamsite/ooQA-TeamDatabaseLinks.html
> points to several links, of which most work correctly.
> 
> However, the link to Database Wiki, which is:
> wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database 
> redirects to
> https://forum.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database
> 
> but should redirect to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Database.
> 
> Therefore I think that Matthias is right. There is something going wrong on 
> the wiki with the redirects from "wiki.services".
> 
> Redirections go inadvertently to "forum.openoffice.org"
> 
> They should redirect to "wiki.openoffice.org/" but they redirect now to 
> "forum.openoffice.org" which throws a 404. Changing "forum" on the 404 to 
> "wiki" will give you the right page.
> 
> I have no clue as where to search for the error, but I assume its somewhere 
> in the configuration of the forum
> 
> On 2022/05/15 08:15:45 Peter Kovacs wrote:
>> Binjour!
>> 
>> This list is the right place to ask.
>> 
>> Both Links point to missing Articles on the Forum. Since we updated the 
>> Forum software, could it be that links has been changed?
>> 
>> Maybe searching on the en Forum would help and renew the link.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 15.05.22 um 09:12 schrieb Troumad libertysurf:
>>> [FR]
>>> 
>>> Bonjour
>>> 
>>> Je ne sais où parler de ce problème. Si on me dit tant-pis, je ne les 
>>> remonterais plus...
>>> Sur la page 
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>  
>>> il y a deux liens qui ne répondent plus :
>>> 
>>> OfficeDev - Document Events
>>> Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [EN by https://www.deepl.com/]
>>> 
>>> Hello
>>> 
>>> I don't know where to talk about this problem. If someone tells me no 
>>> more, I won't bring them up again...
>>> On the page 
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/lang/EventObject.html
>>>  
>>> there are two links that don't work anymore:
>>> 
>>> OfficeDev - Document Events
>>> Database - Events and Other Notifications
>>> 
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Pedro,

You can see the new logo (you may have to clear cache) at 
https://forum.openoffice.org/es/forum/ along with other forum sites.

Regards,
Dave

> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi again
> 
> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload 
> it to)
> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu
> 
> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update 
> it or simply send the SVG
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our 
>> website logos:
>> 
>> We have an svg version of the orb here: 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>> 
>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>> 
>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra 
>> credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. 
>> VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>> 
>> (2) The website logo - 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>> 
>> The size is 268px x 100px
>> 
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Re: [GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

[Dave Fisher]

> On May 7, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Pedro Lino  wrote:
> 
> Hi again
> 
> I have created an SVG for the Forums/Fora (don't know where I should upload 
> it to)

You can upload it to imgur.com - I’ll download, test, and store in the forums.

I think we should have a logo/graphics place in OpenOffice.apache.org which 
comes from https://github.com/apache./openoffice-project/

> The word Forum is editable (in Ubuntu Condensed 26pt)
> I have created Forum (EN, FR, IT and PL), Foren (DE) and Foro (ES)

BTW - Someone else runs the DE forum and it’s outside of Apache.
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/FDqydFu

Very cool!

Thanks,
Dave

> 
> If any of the other language users sends the word / characters I can update 
> it or simply send the SVG
> 
> Best,
> Pedro
> 
>> On 05/07/2022 7:38 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our 
>> website logos:
>> 
>> We have an svg version of the orb here: 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
>> I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
>> An svg should convert any fonts to shapes
>> 
>> (1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png
>> 
>> The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra 
>> credit if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. 
>> VI is read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.
>> 
>> (2) The website logo - 
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png
>> 
>> The size is 268px x 100px
>> 
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Re: Forums and FAQ

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Hi -

We need versions of the following strings to add for each language:

./language/en/help/faq.php
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC' => 'OpenOffice.org 
Community Forum Specific Issues',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 'Where can I find 
FAQs relating specifically to OpenOffice.org products?',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE'=> 'We don\'t maintain 
an FAQ per se, but you is you start with our Survival Guide, this will explain how 
to go about using the forum.  You will also find specific tutorials in the Tutorials forum.  You can also use the 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/";>OpenOffice wiki as a knowledge 
source.',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK'   => ‘
How do I ask a question?',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW'  => 'Please read 
the Survival Guide before you 
post. These guidelines and rules help the community to make the most 
of this forum. The remainder of this FAQ coverts general issues to do 
with the using phpBB3.',

Here’s where the strings are used.

./phpbb/help/controller/faq.php
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_SPECIFIC',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE_CAN_I_FIND' => 
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_WHERE',
'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW_TO_ASK' => 'HELP_FAQ_AOO_HOW',

Regards,
Dave


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> Hello,
> 
> Small problem with FAQ on all forums except EN
> https://forum.openoffice.org/fr/forum/download/file.php?id=145454
> 
> I don't know how these strings has been added.
> 
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Re: Forums and FAQ

[Dave Fisher]

I did something special. I’ll need to refresh my memory and get back to you on 
the correct changes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2022, at 10:34 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Small problem with FAQ on all forums except EN
> https://forum.openoffice.org/fr/forum/download/file.php?id=145454
> 
> I don't know how these strings has been added.
> 
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[GRAPHICS] Help with SVG versions of AOO website logo and Forum Header

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

It would be great if we had a transparent background and svg versions of our 
website logos:

We have an svg version of the orb here: 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/svg/orb.svg
I can’t find an svg of the full website logo. Does anyone know of one?
An svg should convert any fonts to shapes

(1) The Forum header - https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/logo_forum.png

The same graphic on every forum right now. Size is 450px x 77px. Extra credit 
if someone can create versions for: ES, FR, HU, IT, JA, NL, and PL. VI is 
read-only and ZH is non-functional and not currently available.

(2) The website logo - 
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/blob/main/assets/images/AOO_logos/AOO4_website_logo.png

The size is 268px x 100px

Best,
Dave
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Re: WebDAV module ported from serf to curl; curl using openssl and zlib (was: Re: Openssl, serf and curl)

[Dave Fisher]

> On May 6, 2022, at 12:56 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dave,
> 
> On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 05:53:19PM -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
> 
>> Just so that you aren’t the only one here.
> 
> I am sure I am not alone... but thank you anyway ;-)
> 
>> It will be important to write good release notes about these changes.
>> 
>> Users will need to understand clearly that updates to cURL and
>> OpenSSL for CVEs won’t happen immediately unless they build with 2
>> on their own.
> 
> I am not sure I understand this. We are just updating/changing bundled
> libraries... Can you please explain better what you mean?

Some users might hear about a CVE on cURL and/or OpenSSL and update their 
systems thinking that they have also fixed OpenOffice when due to our now 
bundling of these they would need to wait for an OpenOffice release.

ATB,
Dave

> 
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> -- 
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Re: Contact a Forum Board Administrator

[Dave Fisher]

Check your spam folder. If it’s not there then please send the email address so 
that we can look at the server logs.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 5, 2022, at 6:24 AM, casa...@email.it wrote:
> 
> I tried to write an email from AOO Italian forum to Contact a Board 
> Administrator. But the email does not arrive at the address registered. 
> Where does it arrive?
> Thanks.
> 
> charlie
> (Italian AOO forumm Admin)
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

Maintenance on the Forums is completed!

The Forums are now at phpBB 3.3.7 which was released March 17, 2023. The prior 
version was 3.0.9 released July 10, 2011.

Very, very happy. Future updates should be much easier. I will follow up with 
the Forum sysadmins on these issues:

1. The Italian Forum has a weird display issues. I think that a post will need 
to be regenerated.
2. We need to find forum administrators to replace imacat for each forum.
3. I will need to document the process, customizations and migration steps.

But I’ll need a few days away.

ATB,
Dave

> On May 4, 2022, at 7:38 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Https://forum.openoffice.org is now offline with a simple page to checkbook 
> later..
> 
>> On May 4, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2022, at 1:14 AM, David Robley  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Registration works OK; I registered a new user, got the activation email 
>>> and activated the account. Then posted a first message and (as moderator) 
>>> approved it, but I _did not_ get the email advising of approval although 
>>> the post was cleared. I did check junk as that was where the activation 
>>> email ended up :-).
>>> 
>>> There is an apparent inconsistency on the mod control panel; some recent 
>>> events that are displayed under the Moderator Logs tab do not appear under 
>>> the Main tab.
>>> 
>>> While I'm on the topic, is there any chance the change to the search page I 
>>> mentioned at 
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105949#p515320 might 
>>> be implemented?
>> 
>> Done! Try it on the EN forum and I’ll propagate to the others.
>> 
>>> 
>>> And, pushing my (our?) luck even more, the extensions Banhammer and 
>>> stopforumspam mentioned in 
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=96141#p513871
>> 
>> We’re going to need to take full control of the forum sysadmin role once the 
>> migration is completed.
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/2/22 17:28, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> The en and fr forums are available to test:
>>>> 
>>>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/
>>>> 
>>>> Please test these forums.
>>>> 
>>>> Known work to do:
>>>> - Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
>>>> - Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
>>>> - Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.
>>>> 
>>>> The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite 
>>>> some time.
>>>> 
>>>> ATB,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apologies for the late communication.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Differences so far:
>>>>> 1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
>>>>> 2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
>>>>> analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
>>>>> 3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
>>>>> ({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
>>>>> 4. /style.php is no longer included.
>>>>> 5. /app.php is new.
>>>>> 6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French 
>>>>> forum.
>>>>> 7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the 
>>>>> customized rel=“alternate” to one of the links.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This doesn’t seem bad.
>>>>> Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
>>>>> 2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
>>>>> 3. Forum databases will be updated
>>>>> 4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
>>>>> 5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
>>>>> OpenOffice committers may request access.
>>&g

Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

Https://forum.openoffice.org is now offline with a simple page to checkbook 
later.

> On May 4, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 4, 2022, at 1:14 AM, David Robley  wrote:
>> 
>> Registration works OK; I registered a new user, got the activation email and 
>> activated the account. Then posted a first message and (as moderator) 
>> approved it, but I _did not_ get the email advising of approval although the 
>> post was cleared. I did check junk as that was where the activation email 
>> ended up :-).
>> 
>> There is an apparent inconsistency on the mod control panel; some recent 
>> events that are displayed under the Moderator Logs tab do not appear under 
>> the Main tab.
>> 
>> While I'm on the topic, is there any chance the change to the search page I 
>> mentioned at 
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105949#p515320 might 
>> be implemented?
> 
> Done! Try it on the EN forum and I’ll propagate to the others.
> 
>> 
>> And, pushing my (our?) luck even more, the extensions Banhammer and 
>> stopforumspam mentioned in 
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=96141#p513871
> 
> We’re going to need to take full control of the forum sysadmin role once the 
> migration is completed.
> 
>> 
>> On 5/2/22 17:28, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> The en and fr forums are available to test:
>>> 
>>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/
>>> 
>>> Please test these forums.
>>> 
>>> Known work to do:
>>> - Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
>>> - Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
>>> - Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.
>>> 
>>> The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite some 
>>> time.
>>> 
>>> ATB,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Apologies for the late communication.
>>>> 
>>>> The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7.
>>>> 
>>>> Differences so far:
>>>> 1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
>>>> 2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
>>>> analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
>>>> 3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
>>>> ({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
>>>> 4. /style.php is no longer included.
>>>> 5. /app.php is new.
>>>> 6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French 
>>>> forum.
>>>> 7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
>>>> rel=“alternate” to one of the links.
>>>> 
>>>> This doesn’t seem bad.
>>>> Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.
>>>> 
>>>> I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.
>>>> 
>>>> Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
>>>> 2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
>>>> 3. Forum databases will be updated
>>>> 4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
>>>> 5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.
>>>> 
>>>> Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
>>>> OpenOffice committers may request access.
>>>> 
>>>> A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to 
>>>> answer any questions.
>>>> 
>>>> ATB,
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>>>> On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
>>>>>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
>>>>>>> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
>>>>>>> includes also a phpBB update

Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

> On May 4, 2022, at 1:14 AM, David Robley  wrote:
> 
> Registration works OK; I registered a new user, got the activation email and 
> activated the account. Then posted a first message and (as moderator) 
> approved it, but I _did not_ get the email advising of approval although the 
> post was cleared. I did check junk as that was where the activation email 
> ended up :-).
> 
> There is an apparent inconsistency on the mod control panel; some recent 
> events that are displayed under the Moderator Logs tab do not appear under 
> the Main tab.
> 
> While I'm on the topic, is there any chance the change to the search page I 
> mentioned at 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105949#p515320 might be 
> implemented?

Done! Try it on the EN forum and I’ll propagate to the others.

> 
> And, pushing my (our?) luck even more, the extensions Banhammer and 
> stopforumspam mentioned in 
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=96141#p513871

We’re going to need to take full control of the forum sysadmin role once the 
migration is completed.

> 
> On 5/2/22 17:28, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> The en and fr forums are available to test:
>> 
>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/
>> 
>> Please test these forums.
>> 
>> Known work to do:
>> - Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
>> - Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
>> - Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.
>> 
>> The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite some 
>> time.
>> 
>> ATB,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apologies for the late communication.
>>> 
>>> The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7.
>>> 
>>> Differences so far:
>>> 1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
>>> 2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
>>> analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
>>> 3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
>>> ({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
>>> 4. /style.php is no longer included.
>>> 5. /app.php is new.
>>> 6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French 
>>> forum.
>>> 7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
>>> rel=“alternate” to one of the links.
>>> 
>>> This doesn’t seem bad.
>>> Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.
>>> 
>>> I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.
>>> 
>>> Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:
>>> 
>>> 1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
>>> 2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
>>> 3. Forum databases will be updated
>>> 4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
>>> 5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.
>>> 
>>> Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
>>> OpenOffice committers may request access.
>>> 
>>> A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.
>>> 
>>> I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to answer 
>>> any questions.
>>> 
>>> ATB,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>>> On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
>>>>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
>>>>>> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
>>>>>> includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum
>>>>>> Modification ported.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until
>>>>>> the end of the same day.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the best
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Possible typo?  March in place of May?
>>>> Thanks Rory, It is May. My mistake.
>>>>> Rory
>>>>> 
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> 
> Cheers
> -- 
> David Robley
> 
> Almost went crazy. Would have been a real short trip.
> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

> On May 3, 2022, at 11:34 PM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> Hello Dave,
> 
>>> Are you missing the extra sig field for FR only?
>>> What translations are missed? The explain?
>> I’m saw a similar situation with the EN forum.
> 
>> I redid the Terry E mods on /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php and it
>> looks good!
> Indeed, the form seems to be restored. Signature is back.
> Bravo!
> 
> Remains connection issue.

That will be fixed with changeover migration.

> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

> On May 3, 2022, at 12:51 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Inline
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
>> 
>> On French forum only, unable to connect (using admin or user account)
>> I don't know if passwords has been correctly hashed in database
> 
> I did rehash passwords. I won’t do that in the final migration.
> 
>> Unable to register a new account too because form is not complete:
>> Translated strings are not found
>> Signature field is missing
>> See screenshot: https://ibb.co/7Rf0MqL
> 
> Are you missing the extra sig field for FR only?
> 
> What translations are missed? The explain?

I’m saw a similar situation with the EN forum.

https://ibb.co/TgDTLN1

I redid the Terry E mods on /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php and it looks good!

ATB,
Dave


> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Mail original -
>>> De: "Dave Fisher" 
>>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Mai 2022 16:26:00
>>> Objet: Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum
>>> 
>>> WOOT!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Reorganizing each forum to be a separate installation of phpBB
>>> worked!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> In the migrated EN and FR forums the avatars and attachments are
>>> back!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here’s Drew: (if the mailing list takes it)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please test while I prepare for the migration!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2022, at 9:46 PM, Dave Fisher < w...@apache.org > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is a lot hiding behind that error message.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The FR forum has been remigrated. I’m finishing a long running fixup:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> root@openoffice-vm1-lw-us:/x1/var_lib_phpBB/com337# php
>>> ./bin/phpbbcli.php --safe-mode fixup:update-hashes
>>> 33772/39298 [>---] 85%
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That might help the attachment and avatar issues.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It looks like I need to reorganize the layout to make each forum much
>>> more like the phpBB standard.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That also might help the attachment and avatar issues
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’ll be doing the reorg in the morning.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyone care to comment on the order of migration?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ATB,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2022, at 6:16 PM, David Robley < da...@robley.net.au >
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Orphaned attachments is not available from the General panel in ACP -
>>> the error message is:
>>> 
>>> General Error
>>> Module not accessible
>>> 
>>> BACKTRACE
>>> 
>>> FILE: (not given by php)
>>> LINE: (not given by php)
>>> CALL: msg_handler()
>>> 
>>> FILE: [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>>> LINE: 565
>>> CALL: trigger_error()
>>> 
>>> FILE: [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>>> LINE: 81
>>> CALL: p_master->load_active()
>>> 
>>> Also there is a warning on the General tab of the ACP:
>>> The selected search backend does not have a search index.
>>> Please create the index for “MySQL Fulltext” in the search index <
>>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d
>>>> section.
>>> 
>>> Following the link returns the same error as above:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> General Error
>>> 
>>> Module not accessible
>>> 
>>> BACKTRACE
>>> 
>>> *FILE:* (not given by php)
>>> *LINE:* (not given by php)
>>> *CALL:* msg_handler()
>>> 
>>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>>> *LINE:* 565
>>> *CALL:* trigger_error()
>>> 
>>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>>> *LINE:* 81
>>> *CALL:* p_master->load_active()
>>> 
>>> On 5/3/22 03:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang}
>>> hacks from the old config.php no longer function.
>>> 
>>&g

Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

Inline



Sent from my iPhone

> On May 3, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
> On French forum only, unable to connect (using admin or user account)
> I don't know if passwords has been correctly hashed in database

I did rehash passwords. I won’t do that in the final migration.

> Unable to register a new account too because form is not complete:
> Translated strings are not found
> Signature field is missing
> See screenshot: https://ibb.co/7Rf0MqL

Are you missing the extra sig field for FR only?

What translations are missed? The explain?



> 
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Dave Fisher" 
>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Mai 2022 16:26:00
>> Objet: Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum
>> 
>> WOOT!
>> 
>> 
>> Reorganizing each forum to be a separate installation of phpBB
>> worked!
>> 
>> 
>> In the migrated EN and FR forums the avatars and attachments are
>> back!
>> 
>> 
>> Here’s Drew: (if the mailing list takes it)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please test while I prepare for the migration!
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 9:46 PM, Dave Fisher < w...@apache.org > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> There is a lot hiding behind that error message.
>> 
>> 
>> The FR forum has been remigrated. I’m finishing a long running fixup:
>> 
>> 
>> root@openoffice-vm1-lw-us:/x1/var_lib_phpBB/com337# php
>> ./bin/phpbbcli.php --safe-mode fixup:update-hashes
>> 33772/39298 [>---] 85%
>> 
>> 
>> That might help the attachment and avatar issues.
>> 
>> 
>> It looks like I need to reorganize the layout to make each forum much
>> more like the phpBB standard.
>> 
>> 
>> That also might help the attachment and avatar issues
>> 
>> 
>> I’ll be doing the reorg in the morning.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone care to comment on the order of migration?
>> 
>> 
>> ATB,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 6:16 PM, David Robley < da...@robley.net.au >
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Orphaned attachments is not available from the General panel in ACP -
>> the error message is:
>> 
>> General Error
>> Module not accessible
>> 
>> BACKTRACE
>> 
>> FILE: (not given by php)
>> LINE: (not given by php)
>> CALL: msg_handler()
>> 
>> FILE: [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>> LINE: 565
>> CALL: trigger_error()
>> 
>> FILE: [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>> LINE: 81
>> CALL: p_master->load_active()
>> 
>> Also there is a warning on the General tab of the ACP:
>> The selected search backend does not have a search index.
>> Please create the index for “MySQL Fulltext” in the search index <
>> https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d
>>> section.
>> 
>> Following the link returns the same error as above:
>> 
>> 
>> General Error
>> 
>> Module not accessible
>> 
>> BACKTRACE
>> 
>> *FILE:* (not given by php)
>> *LINE:* (not given by php)
>> *CALL:* msg_handler()
>> 
>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>> *LINE:* 565
>> *CALL:* trigger_error()
>> 
>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>> *LINE:* 81
>> *CALL:* p_master->load_active()
>> 
>> On 5/3/22 03:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang}
>> hacks from the old config.php no longer function.
>> 
>> I wonder about the attachments is it possible that ACP Orphaned
>> Attachments screen can fix these up?
>> Could someone try more a few …
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bidouille< ooofo...@free.fr > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There is an issue with accessing the admin control panel, error is
>> 
>> Access denied for user 'forumaoouser'@'127.0.0.1' to database
>> 'forumaoo_' [1044]
>> +1
>> 
>> Some problems detected:
>> Logo (left top) has been removed
>> All avatars can be accessed
>> Some pictures seems to be corrupted in many threads
>> 
>> This is a database issue with a bad update.
>> 
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>> --
>> David Robley
>> 
>> Almost went crazy. Would have been a real short trip.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

WOOT!

Reorganizing each forum to be a separate installation of phpBB worked!

In the migrated EN and FR forums the avatars and attachments are back!

Here’s Drew: (if the mailing list takes it)


Please test while I prepare for the migration!

Regards,
Dave

> On May 2, 2022, at 9:46 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> There is a lot hiding behind that error message.
> 
> The FR forum has been remigrated. I’m finishing a long running fixup:
> 
> root@openoffice-vm1-lw-us:/x1/var_lib_phpBB/com337# php ./bin/phpbbcli.php 
> --safe-mode fixup:update-hashes
>  33772/39298 [>---]  85% 
> 
> That might help the attachment and avatar issues.
> 
> It looks like I need to reorganize the layout to make each forum much more 
> like the phpBB standard.
> 
> That also might help the attachment and avatar issues
> 
> I’ll be doing the reorg in the morning.
> 
> Anyone care to comment on the order of migration?
> 
> ATB,
> Dave
> 
>> On May 2, 2022, at 6:16 PM, David Robley > <mailto:da...@robley.net.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Orphaned attachments is not available from the General panel in ACP - the 
>> error message is:
>> 
>> General Error
>> Module not accessible
>> 
>> BACKTRACE
>> 
>> FILE: (not given by php)
>> LINE: (not given by php)
>> CALL: msg_handler()
>> 
>> FILE: [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>> LINE: 565
>> CALL: trigger_error()
>> 
>> FILE: [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>> LINE: 81
>> CALL: p_master->load_active()
>> 
>> Also there is a warning on the General tab of the ACP:
>> The selected search backend does not have a search index.
>> Please create the index for “MySQL Fulltext” in the search index 
>> <https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d
>>  
>> <https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d>>
>>  section.
>> 
>> Following the link returns the same error as above:
>> 
>> 
>> General Error
>> 
>> Module not accessible
>> 
>> BACKTRACE
>> 
>> *FILE:* (not given by php)
>> *LINE:* (not given by php)
>> *CALL:* msg_handler()
>> 
>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
>> *LINE:* 565
>> *CALL:* trigger_error()
>> 
>> *FILE:* [ROOT]/adm/index.php
>> *LINE:* 81
>> *CALL:* p_master->load_active()
>> 
>> On 5/3/22 03:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>> 
>>> ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang} hacks from 
>>> the old config.php no longer function.
>>> 
>>> I wonder about the attachments is it possible that ACP Orphaned Attachments 
>>> screen can fix these up?
>>> Could someone try more a few …
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bidouille>>> <mailto:ooofo...@free.fr>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There is an issue with accessing the admin control panel, error is
>>>>> 
>>>>> Access denied for user 'forumaoouser'@'127.0.0.1' to database
>>>>> 'forumaoo_' [1044]
>>>> +1
>>>> 
>>>> Some problems detected:
>>>> Logo (left top) has been removed
>>>> All avatars can be accessed
>>>> Some pictures seems to be corrupted in many threads
>>>> 
>>>> This is a database issue with a bad update.
>>>> 
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>> Cheers
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>> 
>> Almost went crazy. Would have been a real short trip.
>> 
> 

Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

There is a lot hiding behind that error message.

The FR forum has been remigrated. I’m finishing a long running fixup:

root@openoffice-vm1-lw-us:/x1/var_lib_phpBB/com337# php ./bin/phpbbcli.php 
--safe-mode fixup:update-hashes
 33772/39298 [>---]  85% 

That might help the attachment and avatar issues.

It looks like I need to reorganize the layout to make each forum much more like 
the phpBB standard.

That also might help the attachment and avatar issues

I’ll be doing the reorg in the morning.

Anyone care to comment on the order of migration?

ATB,
Dave

> On May 2, 2022, at 6:16 PM, David Robley  wrote:
> 
> Orphaned attachments is not available from the General panel in ACP - the 
> error message is:
> 
> General Error
> Module not accessible
> 
> BACKTRACE
> 
> FILE: (not given by php)
> LINE: (not given by php)
> CALL: msg_handler()
> 
> FILE: [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
> LINE: 565
> CALL: trigger_error()
> 
> FILE: [ROOT]/adm/index.php
> LINE: 81
> CALL: p_master->load_active()
> 
> Also there is a warning on the General tab of the ACP:
> The selected search backend does not have a search index.
> Please create the index for “MySQL Fulltext” in the search index 
> <https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/en/forum/adm/index.php?i=acp_search&mode=index&sid=f040e8c6e1d64f0a91acae0964c9197d>
>  section.
> 
> Following the link returns the same error as above:
> 
> 
> General Error
> 
> Module not accessible
> 
> BACKTRACE
> 
> *FILE:* (not given by php)
> *LINE:* (not given by php)
> *CALL:* msg_handler()
> 
> *FILE:* [ROOT]/includes/functions_module.php
> *LINE:* 565
> *CALL:* trigger_error()
> 
> *FILE:* [ROOT]/adm/index.php
> *LINE:* 81
> *CALL:* p_master->load_active()
> 
> On 5/3/22 03:25, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> Hi -
>> 
>> ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang} hacks from 
>> the old config.php no longer function.
>> 
>> I wonder about the attachments is it possible that ACP Orphaned Attachments 
>> screen can fix these up?
>> Could someone try more a few …
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There is an issue with accessing the admin control panel, error is
>>>> 
>>>> Access denied for user 'forumaoouser'@'127.0.0.1' to database
>>>> 'forumaoo_' [1044]
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Some problems detected:
>>> Logo (left top) has been removed
>>> All avatars can be accessed
>>> Some pictures seems to be corrupted in many threads
>>> 
>>> This is a database issue with a bad update.
>>> 
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> 
> Almost went crazy. Would have been a real short trip.
> 

Re: WebDAV module ported from serf to curl; curl using openssl and zlib (was: Re: Openssl, serf and curl)

[Dave Fisher]

> On May 2, 2022, at 1:28 PM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 10:31:33PM +0200, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> 
>> Replying to myself again...
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 10:03:54PM +0200, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>> 
>>> Replying to myself...
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 09:41:04PM +0200, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Damjan,
 
 On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 04:53:59AM +0200, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
>>> [...]
> When I run your Linux binaries, I also get that error.
> 
> One problem is libcurl -> openssl.
> 
> "ldd ./libcurl.so" shows:
>libssl.so.10 => not found
>libcrypto.so.10 => not found
>>> [...]
> 
> It connects and seems to begin the SSL negotiations, and then probably
> crashes while doing the verify_callback we set with SSL_CTX_set_verify().
> 
> I suspect the Curl and/or OpenSSL headers used to build AOO, and their
> libraries available at runtime, are incompatible.
> 
> What happens if you run AOO on the same machine it was built on?
>>> [...]
 As I wrote above, according to your suspects, it may be worthwile to
 bundle curl and openssl binaries. I will try to follow this path. It
 should be a matter of parameters to the configure script.
>>> 
>>> Curl and openssl are already bundled.
>>> 
>>> But Curl is not using the openssl from AOO, but rather from the
>>> system. In other words, it does not honor the environment variable
>>> SYSTEM_OPENSSL=NO set by the AOO build system.
>>> 
>>> Curl's configure script looks for the SSL headers and libraries either
>>> from pkgconfig or at a path provided with parameter --with-ssl
>>> 
>>> We do not support pkgconfig inside the solver, so we have to rely on
>>> the path.
>>> 
>>> But Curl's configure script expects to find a directory structure such as:
>>> - $PREFIX/include/openssl
>>> - $PREFIX/lib[64]
>>> whereas our $OUTDIR has openssl installed into different paths:
>>> - $OUTDIR/inc/external/openssl
>>> - $OUTDIR/lib
>>> 
>>> I believe this means we have to patch Curl's configure script.
>> 
>> Not only. We also have to actually bundle libssl.so and libcrypto.so
>> because they are not!
>> 
>> This means we have to patch:
>> 
>> - main/openssl/prj/d.lst to have them included into the solver;
>> 
>> - scp2/source/ooo/file_library_ooo.scp to have their Unix names
>> included.
>> 
>> This is a separate bug and will be worth its own pull request.
> 
> Here it is:
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pull/147
> 
> I suggest:
> 
> 1- we merge the above PR (I will on Friday, if no one vetoes and no
> issues are raised);
> 
> 2- we patch curl's configure script to use the bundled OpenSSL
> library, when requested.
> 
> Comments are always welcome.

Just so that you aren’t the only one here.

It will be important to write good release notes about these changes.

Users will need to understand clearly that updates to cURL and OpenSSL for CVEs 
won’t happen immediately unless they build with 2 on their own.

Regards,
Dave


> 
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> -- 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

ACP should now be available on EN and FR. Basically some ${lang} hacks from the 
old config.php no longer function.

I wonder about the attachments is it possible that ACP Orphaned Attachments 
screen can fix these up? 
Could someone try more a few …

Thanks,
Dave

> On May 2, 2022, at 8:32 AM, Bidouille  wrote:
> 
>> There is an issue with accessing the admin control panel, error is
>> 
>> Access denied for user 'forumaoouser'@'127.0.0.1' to database
>> 'forumaoo_' [1044]
> +1
> 
> Some problems detected:
> Logo (left top) has been removed
> All avatars can be accessed
> Some pictures seems to be corrupted in many threads
> 
> This is a database issue with a bad update.
> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

The en and fr forums are available to test: 

https://openoffice-vm1-lw-us.apache.org/

Please test these forums.

Known work to do:
- Restore the Apache Open Office logo in the header
- Return the Apache and Get OpenOffice information in the footer
- Avatars have moved in 3.3.7 need to determine how to move them.

The automatic mySQL migration from 3.0.9 seems to work but takes quite some 
time.

ATB,
Dave

> On May 1, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> Apologies for the late communication.
> 
> The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7. 
> 
> Differences so far:
> 1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
> 2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
> analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
> 3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
> ({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
> 4. /style.php is no longer included.
> 5. /app.php is new.
> 6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French forum.
> 7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
> rel=“alternate” to one of the links.
> 
> This doesn’t seem bad.
> Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.
> 
> I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.
> 
> Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:
> 
> 1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
> 2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
> 3. Forum databases will be updated
> 4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
> 5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.
> 
> Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
> OpenOffice committers may request access.
> 
> A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.
> 
> I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to answer 
> any questions.
> 
> ATB,
> Dave
> 
>> On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>> On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
>>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
>>>> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
>>>> includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum
>>>> Modification ported.
>>>> 
>>>> The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until
>>>> the end of the same day.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> All the best
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>> Possible typo?  March in place of May?
>> Thanks Rory, It is May. My mistake.
>>> 
>>> Rory
>>> 
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Re: [IMPORTANT] Scheduling Maintenance for our Forum

[Dave Fisher]

Apologies for the late communication.

The forums are being updated from phpBB 3.0.9 to 3.3.7. 

Differences so far:
1. The subsilver2 theme is no longer available.
2. Analytics are removed due to new ASF privacy policies. We can add back 
analytics that are compliant in the next weeks.
3. Search Display code is changed and I could not see how add 
({NEW_POST_COUNT}) into styles/prosilver/template/index_body.html
4. /style.php is no longer included.
5. /app.php is new.
6. /includes/ucp/ucp_register.php will need to be tested on the French forum.
7. /feed.php is reorganized and it was not clear how to add the customized 
rel=“alternate” to one of the links.

This doesn’t seem bad.
Language packs were found and AOO customizations are added.

I expect to finish late tonight - when ready there will be a test url.

Once the forums are put into maintenance the following will happen:

1. Make sure all the files and images that have been uploaded are copied.
2. Dumps of the mysql databases will be copied over.
3. Forum databases will be updated
4. Forum admins will have a chance to test.
5. Once live we’ll triage any issues.

Bidouille has access to the VM … any other forum admins who are already 
OpenOffice committers may request access.

A warning - this same VM hosts the wiki and the mysql databases.

I’ll be offline for a few hours before returning to this work and to answer any 
questions.

ATB,
Dave

> On May 1, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Peter Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> 
> Am 01.05.22 um 15:59 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>> On Sun, 1 May 2022 15:53:47 +0200
>> Peter Kovacs  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> please note, that we schedule a maintenance for the Forum in order to
>>> move database and content to a new machine. This maintenance tasks
>>> includes also a phpBB updates to a recent version, with all the Forum
>>> Modification ported.
>>> 
>>> The downtime will take place from Monday, 2nd March 2022 1800 UTC until
>>> the end of the same day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>> Possible typo?  March in place of May?
> Thanks Rory, It is May. My mistake.
>> 
>> Rory
>> 
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Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

Credit for the forums coming back also goes to several members of the ASF 
Infrastructure team who helped in shielding the server.

I am pushing forward with the new box today. Thanks to everyone who offered to 
help we’ll be answering those emails …

All The Best,
Dave

> On Apr 22, 2022, at 4:47 AM, casa...@email.it wrote:
> 
> I confirm that now everything is back to work.
> Thanks to those who intervened.
> 
> - Messaggio originale -
> Da: casa...@email.it
> A: "dev" 
> Cc: "oooforum" 
> Inviato: Giovedì, 21 aprile 2022 9:22:19
> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> 
> We do not know who is the person who has the command keys of all the forums.
> 
> - Messaggio originale -
> Da: casa...@email.it
> A: "dev" , "oooforum" 
> Inviato: Giovedì, 21 aprile 2022 9:20:03
> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> 
> It seems that no one who has read your report is able to do anything.
> 
> - Messaggio originale -
> Da: "Bidouille" 
> A: "dev" 
> Inviato: Giovedì, 21 aprile 2022 8:34:37
> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> 
> This morning (since France), no access to ooo-forum3-vm.apache.org 
> [54.84.201.130]
> An issue report has been opened here:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23156
> No news so I suggest you to append your comment.
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: casa...@email.it
>> À: "dev" 
>> Envoyé: Jeudi 21 Avril 2022 07:51:11
>> Objet: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
>> 
>> The situation continues not to improve, normal navigation is
>> impossible.
>> Anyone know who to call to make things right?
>> 
>> - Messaggio originale -
>> Da: "Larry Gusaas" 
>> A: "dev" 
>> Inviato: Mercoledì, 20 aprile 2022 20:18:29
>> Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
>> 
>> On 2022-04-20 12:05 p.m., Larry Gusaas wrote:
>>> On 2022-04-20 10:50 a.m., Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:28:22 +0200 (CEST)
 casa...@email.it  wrote:
 
> The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
> Is there anyone here who can do something?
> As administrator of the Italian forum I can't log in, the
> connection times out.
> I have no different access to the forum.
> 
> charlie
 They are very intermittent, sometimes working, more frequently
 timing out.  Out of
 curiosity, please try a traceroute to forum.openoffice.org, which
 might show up if there was
 a connection problem on the route(s) to that site.
 
 It was reported that the server had been restarted, so the problem
 may be elsewhere.
 
>>> Not opening here
>>> 
>> Finally opened after very long wait. Pages extremely slow loading or
>> get message the server
>> isn't responding.
>> 
>> --
>> _
>> 
>> Larry I. Gusaas
>> Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
>> Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
>> 
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>> theirs." - Edgard Varese
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Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

I’ve been working on the issue today without success. I’m taking some time away 
from work to focus on completion of this migration.

It looks like some type of DOS issue. We’ve been slowly building a new box for 
quite some time.

Please stay tuned for progress tomorrow. I will ask for volunteers to test on a 
new url. Once functionality is confirmed we will complete the data transfer.

Anyone who has time, phpBB/httpd/PHP coding experience, and linux sysadmin 
knowledge is very welcome to volunteer to help going forward. If you want to 
volunteer send an email to sysad...@openoffice.apache.org

Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 21, 2022, at 3:49 AM, Gavin McDonald  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:37 PM Matthias Seidel 
> wrote:
> 
>> It could help to change the status to "Waiting for Infra" for that ticket.
>> 
>> At the moment it is "Waiting for User" so Infra is waiting for input...
>> 
> 
> Infra does not maintain the AOO forums, or wiki, or translate , or ...
> 
> someone from the OpenOffice project needs to be looking into this and
> resolving,
> or, if they find an issue with the VM itself, then escalate to Infra.
> 
> Gav...
> 
> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>>   Matthias
>> 
>> Am 21.04.22 um 08:34 schrieb Bidouille:
>>> This morning (since France), no access to ooo-forum3-vm.apache.org
>> [54.84.201.130]
>>> An issue report has been opened here:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-23156
>>> No news so I suggest you to append your comment.
>>> 
>>> - Mail original -
 De: casa...@email.it
 À: "dev" 
 Envoyé: Jeudi 21 Avril 2022 07:51:11
 Objet: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
 
 The situation continues not to improve, normal navigation is
 impossible.
 Anyone know who to call to make things right?
 
 - Messaggio originale -
 Da: "Larry Gusaas" 
 A: "dev" 
 Inviato: Mercoledì, 20 aprile 2022 20:18:29
 Oggetto: Re: The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
 
 On 2022-04-20 12:05 p.m., Larry Gusaas wrote:
> On 2022-04-20 10:50 a.m., Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 18:28:22 +0200 (CEST)
>> casa...@email.it  wrote:
>> 
>>> The AOO forums have not worked for several days.
>>> Is there anyone here who can do something?
>>> As administrator of the Italian forum I can't log in, the
>>> connection times out.
>>> I have no different access to the forum.
>>> 
>>> charlie
>> They are very intermittent, sometimes working, more frequently
>> timing out.  Out of
>> curiosity, please try a traceroute to forum.openoffice.org, which
>> might show up if there was
>> a connection problem on the route(s) to that site.
>> 
>> It was reported that the server had been restarted, so the problem
>> may be elsewhere.
>> 
> Not opening here
> 
 Finally opened after very long wait. Pages extremely slow loading or
 get message the server
 isn't responding.
 
 --
 _
 
 Larry I. Gusaas
 Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
 Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
 
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Re: Forums OpenOffice are very slow

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Hi -

I’ve restarted Apache HTTPD. Seems fine from California …

Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 17, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 15:20:39 -
> Dick Groskamp  wrote:
> 
>> Sent an email to Infra since the forums are still not responding.
>> Apache Status page does not mention any incident for today or yesterday
>> 
> 
> Response has improved on Sunday (17 April 2022) though not yet perfect.  My 
> tests are showing
> connection problems onwards from London - traceroute timing out.
> 
> RoryOF
> 
> 
>> 
>> On 2022/04/17 05:44:55 casa...@email.it wrote:
>>> The forums have not opened for almost 24 hours.
>>> 
>>> - Messaggio originale -
>>> Da: "Bidouille" 
>>> A: "dev" 
>>> Inviato: Sabato, 16 aprile 2022 18:25:52
>>> Oggetto: Forums OpenOffice are very slow
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Since this morning, forums are very slw.
>>> I don't know if this comes from PhpBB or MySQL.
>>> Maybe restart all services?
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Re: Things you don't want to know about Ukraine??

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> On Mar 22, 2022, at 2:51 PM, Jose R R  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:37 AM Max Merbald  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Matthias,
>> 
>> the blatant fake news José was spreading definitely required an answer.
>> Such junk could not remain unanswered, and never mind which list this is.
> 
> Unlike you, troll of the 'Ministry of Truth' (Orwell), I do not engage
> in disinformation. Your stunted intellect and short sighted stupidity
> --
> and that of the gullible masses like you -- is the facilitator for
> manufacturing fascist US/UK Anglo- European world wars -- while their
> propaganda whores blame those on others with a 24/7 demonization of
> the targeted individual(s) in a maliciously created narrative to exalt
> the 'virtues' and 'moral superiority of the West'.
> 
> Oh, Moderator, what kind of tone is that, 'STOP OR YOU WILL BE
> BANNED'!? I will save you the trouble of 'banning' me. I will
> unsubscribe.

I am currently reading an anthology of George Orwell called All Art is 
Propaganda. It’s very interesting. Mostly Orwell was concerned about orthodoxy 
on all extremes.

But that’s not the point raised here. This mailing list is for discussions 
about developing Apache OpenOffice. Our mission is about the public good in the 
most expansive way. Here we aren’t judging “isms”. That can be done elsewhere. 
Thank you very much.

>> 
>> You seemed only to worry about the list and not about someone spreading
>> fake news. Sorry to say but that seems narrow-minded to me.

“Fake news” is propaganda. Determining whose is often difficult. A suite of 
Apache Software was used for analyzing the Panama Papers. Don’t judge our 
interests by what we are willing to discuss.

All the best,
Dave

>> 
>> 
>> Am 21.03.2022 um 16:27 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Max,
>>> 
>>> Am 21.03.22 um 16:11 schrieb Max Merbald:
 @ Matthias: Going by your reaction, you don't seem to be very concerned
 about the war in Ukraine. Well, I am. It might well turn into WW3. You
 should be concerned, too!
>>> I am very concerned, but this is a developer mailing list for OpenOffice.
>>> 
>>> So PLEASE stop this discussion here!
>>> 
>>> There are enough places where you (and others) can express their thoughts.
>>> 
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> Best Professional Regards.
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Re: Is certificate from https:/translate.apache.org expired ?

[Dave Fisher]

There is a cron job in place which failed due to February not having 30 days. 
It is now weekly.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2022, at 12:02 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Peter,
> 
> maybe this is something we could set up:
> 
> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-secure-apache-with-let-s-encrypt-on-ubuntu-18-04
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
>> Am 15.03.22 um 19:58 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> Certificate problem should be resolved.
>> 
>>> On 15.03.22 19:26, Peter Kovacs wrote:
>>> I have opened a ticket. See sysadmin mailinglist.
>>> 
>>> On 15.03.22 18:27, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> It’s our machine. Please have infra teach us how.
>>>> 
>>>> We could use more committers willing to help sysadmin our VMs.
>>>> Volunteers please apply to sysad...@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 15, 2022, at 10:21 AM, Marcus  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 15.03.22 um 17:01 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
>>>>>> Tried to log in on the Pootle server at https://translate.apache.org.
>>>>>> Firefox can't connect me, indicating that the certifcate for the
>>>>>> server might be expired or my computerclock is off.
>>>>>> The latter is OK.
>>>>>> Could someone check ?
>>>>> yes, Firefox tells me that the certificte is expired at Sun, 06 Mar
>>>>> 2022 12:59:01 GMT.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It seems Infra has to renew it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus
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Re: Is certificate from https:/translate.apache.org expired ?

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It’s our machine. Please have infra teach us how.

We could use more committers willing to help sysadmin our VMs. Volunteers 
please apply to sysad...@openoffice.apache.org

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2022, at 10:21 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 15.03.22 um 17:01 schrieb Dick Groskamp:
>> Tried to log in on the Pootle server at https://translate.apache.org.
>> Firefox can't connect me, indicating that the certifcate for the server 
>> might be expired or my computerclock is off.
>> The latter is OK.
>> Could someone check ?
> 
> yes, Firefox tells me that the certificte is expired at Sun, 06 Mar 2022 
> 12:59:01 GMT.
> 
> It seems Infra has to renew it.
> 
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Re: OpenOffice wordmark exploration (yet without the "Apache" mention)

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> On Feb 15, 2022, at 8:43 AM, Rory O'Farrell  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:10:12 +0100
> Corentin Verbrèghe  wrote:
> 
>> I really don't know what you expect from me.
>> 
>> Regards.
>> Coren tin
> 
> I think all would like to see some images for changed icons.

Exactly, Apache OpenOffice is all volunteers and people who have ideas should 
expect to help do the work.

All the best,
Dave


> 
> Rory
> 
> 
>> Le lun. 14 févr. 2022 à 16:24, Corentin Verbrèghe <
>> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> What are you expecting from me ?
>>> Cordially.
>>> Manjiro (Corentin)
>>> 
>>> Le lun. 14 févr. 2022 à 16:09, Dave Fisher  a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> FYI you already are discussing logos with the Apache OpenOffice Project
>>>> Management Committee. We’d like to see what you are offering to contribute.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2022, at 11:00 PM, Corentin Verbrèghe <
>>>> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know the causes now, but I may still request Apache to modify the
>>>>> icon-logos (especially those of Writer and other products).
>>>>> Cordially.
>>>>> Manjiro (Corentin)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le dim. 13 févr. 2022 à 23:05, Pedro Lino >>> .invalid>
>>>>> a écrit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Manjiro
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 02/13/2022 8:36 PM Corentin Verbrèghe <
>>>> corentin.verbreg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I think by making a request to Apache to change the icons of Writer
>>>> and
>>>>>>> other software, they may agree.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Only the Blue Orb icon (or Logo) is part of the trademark. Icons for
>>>>>> Writer or any other modules as well as icons for the toolbars are not
>>>>>> included in the trademark and can be changed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is not a restriction to our freedom but a way to guarantee that
>>>> even
>>>>>> though anyone can use the freely available source code, they can not
>>>>>> commercialize or offer a product named OpenOffice or use the same Logo
>>>>>> In any case it is not Apache that restricts our freedom ;)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for volunteering to contribute! I hope these small legal
>>>> quirks
>>>>>> do not demotivate you!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> Pedro
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Re: OpenOffice wordmark exploration (yet without the "Apache" mention)

[Dave Fisher]

FYI you already are discussing logos with the Apache OpenOffice Project 
Management Committee. We’d like to see what you are offering to contribute.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 13, 2022, at 11:00 PM, Corentin Verbrèghe 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know the causes now, but I may still request Apache to modify the
> icon-logos (especially those of Writer and other products).
> Cordially.
> Manjiro (Corentin)
> 
> Le dim. 13 févr. 2022 à 23:05, Pedro Lino 
> a écrit :
> 
>> Hi Manjiro
>> 
>>> On 02/13/2022 8:36 PM Corentin Verbrèghe 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think by making a request to Apache to change the icons of Writer and
>>> other software, they may agree.
>> 
>> Only the Blue Orb icon (or Logo) is part of the trademark. Icons for
>> Writer or any other modules as well as icons for the toolbars are not
>> included in the trademark and can be changed.
>> 
>> This is not a restriction to our freedom but a way to guarantee that even
>> though anyone can use the freely available source code, they can not
>> commercialize or offer a product named OpenOffice or use the same Logo
>> In any case it is not Apache that restricts our freedom ;)
>> 
>> Thank you for volunteering to contribute! I hope these small legal quirks
>> do not demotivate you!
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Pedro
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Log4Shell is not a problem for OpenOffice

[Dave Fisher]

The Apache OpenOffice security team has looked into the two Log4Shell 
vulnerabilities. We are not impacted by them as we don’t use Apache Log4J 2.

For the AOO Security Team,
Dave
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