2013/4/16 Claudio Filho :
> Sorry by my newbie understanding about the question. I am studing the
> requeriment to build into debian way, getting many "problems" to bring the
> code to be "debianized", breaking in some parts (at this moment in
> pdfimport module) and to know more about this questio
Err...
Sorry but... the extentions cited by Ariel will be integrated in the source
as "code" and not as "extension"? In other words, will be part of core?
As he explained, make sense for me to merge this functions in the code in
the same way of Solver was in the past.
Sorry by my newbie understa
On 3/27/13 3:23 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you
>> pointed out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly
>> your problem now?
>
> I don't have any problem at
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:45:41PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> >If dictionaries were ALv2, for sure AOO would include them, as
> >Sun/Oracle did (this was something the native-lang asked for long time).
> >So this is something we use with dictionaries just because
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On demand I can provide test builds if there are people interested to
> help with testing.
>
> Juergen
>
Great work. May I suggest you upload such test builds to some cloud drive
(GDrive, dropbox, etc) and share the url to the list? TIA!
Didn't read all the replies, but anyway:
+1.
Also good for startup-performance, if I remember correctly...
On 22.03.2013 17:15, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
Hi,
the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never)
and makes more problems than it helps.
I thought that AOO 4.0 wo
On 27.03.2013 15:23, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
Please don't turn this into a circus like the one with the 0^0.
In this we agree :-)
While I still stand by my arguments, I see now that I should have chosen
different words. I have the highest respect for you and your work and
did not inten
On 3/27/13 3:23 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>> Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you
>> pointed out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly
>> your problem now?
>
> I don't have any problem at
On 27 March 2013 15:23, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you pointed
> > out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly your problem now?
>
> I don't have any problem
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:12:39AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Different opinions came up and we had some discussion and you pointed
> out that you can live with feedback. Where is exactly your problem now?
I don't have any problem at all.
> I don't think that it will help us if we react this
On 3/27/13 2:48 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:03:09AM +0100, Andre Fischer wrote:
> IMO it was a non-sense from the beginning to develop these
> as extensions (at least the presentation minimizer and the
> presenter screen, that have no external depende
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 11:03:09AM +0100, Andre Fischer wrote:
> >>>IMO it was a non-sense from the beginning to develop these as
> >>>extensions (at least the presentation minimizer and the presenter
> >>>screen, that have no external dependencies).
> >>I disagree and I don't see why this change
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
If dictionaries were ALv2, for sure AOO would include them, as
Sun/Oracle did (this was something the native-lang asked for long time).
So this is something we use with dictionaries just because we cannot
include them by default.
In the case of dictionaries (which i
On 26 March 2013 11:36, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 3/26/13 11:07 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:32:58AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> > You are right, these extensions were bundled with the
> > installation; IMO it was a non-sense from the beginning to
>
On 3/26/13 11:07 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:32:58AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> You are right, these extensions were bundled with the
> installation; IMO it was a non-sense from the beginning to
> develop these as extensions (at least the presenta
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:32:58AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >>> You are right, these extensions were bundled with the
> >>> installation; IMO it was a non-sense from the beginning to
> >>> develop these as extensions (at least the presentation
> >>> minimizer and the presenter screen, that ha
On 25.03.2013 18:37, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 05:37:06PM +0100, Andre Fischer wrote:
On 25.03.2013 03:36, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 07:04:53PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
@Ariel,
This is where they are in 3.4.1. Are you talking abou
On 3/25/13 6:37 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 05:37:06PM +0100, Andre Fischer wrote:
>> On 25.03.2013 03:36, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
>>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 07:04:53PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton
>>> wrote:
@Ariel,
This is where they are in 3.4.1.
On 3/25/13 5:22 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:58:17PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile
> wrote:
>>> I gave a new built trunk version a try on my MacBook and the
>>> presenter screen doesn't work. AOO 3.4.1 worked.
>>
>> It works on Windows and Linux, where I could test.
Top posting.
It was just my user POV. If there is more advantages to merge such code in the
main trunk, according to your experience as developer, then I've no problem
with that.
I'm not a developer so I don't want to interfere with false good ideas...
Hagar
Le 25/03/2013 23:12, Ariel Consten
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 09:41:18PM +0100, Hagar Delest wrote:
> +1. There are some advanced features that are of no use for me (like
> those related to Impress). In the past I could deactivate them (in
> 3.4.0 IIRC). But well, perhaps there is no real gain to remove the
> extension.
But you do hit
Le 25/03/2013 17:37, Andre Fischer a écrit :
- Easy control over the feature set that is shipped with OpenOffice. This is
something that we use extensively for dictionaries.
+1. I know about the dictionaries. But basically I think that we should keep
the bundled dics as few as possible and le
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 05:37:06PM +0100, Andre Fischer wrote:
> On 25.03.2013 03:36, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> >On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 07:04:53PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> >>@Ariel,
> >>
> >>This is where they are in 3.4.1. Are you talking about a change for 4.0 or
> >>something e
On 25.03.2013 03:36, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 07:04:53PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
@Ariel,
This is where they are in 3.4.1. Are you talking about a change for 4.0 or
something else?
Yes, by "now" I meant right-now, on trunk (it would be helpful if people
-r
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:58:17PM -0300, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > I gave a new built trunk version a try on my MacBook and the presenter
> > screen doesn't work. AOO 3.4.1 worked.
>
> It works on Windows and Linux, where I could test. Did you check if the
> libraries
> were even delivere
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 04:29:16PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 3/25/13 3:36 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 07:04:53PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton
> > wrote:
> >> @Ariel,
> >>
> >> This is where they are in 3.4.1. Are you talking about a change
> >> for 4.0 or som
On 3/25/13 3:36 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 07:04:53PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton
> wrote:
>> @Ariel,
>>
>> This is where they are in 3.4.1. Are you talking about a change
>> for 4.0 or something else?
>
> Yes, by "now" I meant right-now, on trunk (it would be helpf
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:34:52PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> The one directory structure issue that we do get complaints about is
> our placement of dictionaries. We've heard from admins some concern
> about the size of our per-user profile, with the argument that
> immutable files like dictionarie
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 07:04:53PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> @Ariel,
>
> This is where they are in 3.4.1. Are you talking about a change for 4.0 or
> something else?
Yes, by "now" I meant right-now, on trunk (it would be helpful if people
-reading this mailing list, not normal users-
-Original Message-
From: Ariel Constenla-Haile [mailto:arie...@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 16:27
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer office, part 1
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:59:07PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 01:59:07PM -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> * presentation-minimizer.oxt\ (2.2 MB), another folder, not the .oxt package.
>This is under ... share\prereg\bundled\
>
> * presenter-screen.oxt\ (3.2 MB), another folder, same place as the
> preceding one
These two are
to
bundled ones because of the license of dictionaries. And the whole extension
management is of course very complex, too complex and fragile. We have
definitely to do some redesign/ cleanup here. But as always the work has to be
done
Volunteers are welcome.
Juergen
>
> - Dennis
them. I am only observing their presence
in the code and user profile footprints.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:35
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: [CODE][PROPOSAL]: AOO 4.0 getting rid of the 3 layer off
Le 24/03/2013 18:34, Rob Weir a écrit :
What is the advantage to the user? I don't think users care about the
directory structure. This is an internal implementation detail. So
It doesn't change much for the user but it does bring more consistency for the
GNU/Linux platform as said at the b
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never)
> and makes more problems than it helps.
>
> I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the
> necessary rework. The main idea is to us
Am 03/22/2013 05:15 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
[...]
Still some work to do but from my point of view a useful move forward to
get rid of this complex and unnecessary 3layer stuff.
What do you think?
You are absolutely right with cleaning up the old 3-layer-office.
A big +1 to get rid of it.
On 22/03/2013 Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
Still some work to do but from my point of view a useful move forward to
get rid of this complex and unnecessary 3layer stuff.
What do you think?
Good news! So this will also mean that we get rid of the following
layout, right?
/opt/openoffice-341/
|-- ope
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Ian C wrote:
> Hi Jürgen,
>
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never)
> > and makes more problems than it helps.
> >
> > I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the
Hi Jürgen,
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never)
> and makes more problems than it helps.
>
> I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the
> necessary rework. The main i
This has win, win, win all over it!
Does this allow 4.0 to co-exist with 3.4.1 or LO?
Regards,
Dave
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On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
wrote:
>
> Great work Jürgen, I am impressed.
>
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Great work Jürgen, I am impressed.
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On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never)
> and makes more problems than it helps.
>
> I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the
> necessary rework. The main idea is to use
Sorry for top posting but:
+1 !!!
Groetjes,
Olaf
Am 22.03.2013 17:15, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
Hi,
the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never)
and makes more problems than it helps.
I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the
necessary
On 22 March 2013 17:15, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never)
> and makes more problems than it helps.
>
> I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the
> necessary rework. The main idea is to use a new s
Hi,
the so called 3layer office is not really useful anymore (it was never)
and makes more problems than it helps.
I thought that AOO 4.0 would be the best time to start at least with the
necessary rework. The main idea is to use a new simplified directory
layout and tweak the necessary config fi
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