Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
+1 (binding) just in case.. not sure if this vote is still running) Best regards, Carl On 9/8/20 1:10 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: Hi Matthias, all On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? I call for a vote on the usage of this image https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th Anniversary celebration) I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location main/default_images/introabout to replace the current about.png Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
+1 (binding, if that matters) Kind regards Michael Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias, all > >> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >> >> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png > > on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th > Anniversary celebration) > > I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location > main/default_images/introabout > to replace the current about.png > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? I call for a vote on the usage of this image https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th Anniversary celebration) I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location main/default_images/introabout to replace the current about.png +1 Maybe Matthias has the time to delete the dash if it's really wrong. If not then it's also OK for me. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
+1 - this logo fits the current layout of the About box and can be properly adapted for the Startup Screen. Personally I prefer “open source” to “open-source”, but I don’t care to disrupt. A three line version would be: free and open-source for 20 years Regards, Dave > On Sep 9, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Mechtilde wrote: > > +1 for all points (binding) > > Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: >> Hi Matthias, all >> >>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> >>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >>> >>> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? >> >> I call for a vote on the usage of this image >> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png >> >> on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th >> Anniversary celebration) >> >> I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location >> main/default_images/introabout >> to replace the current about.png >> >> Regards, >> Pedro >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > > -- > Mechtilde Stehmann > ## Apache OpenOffice > ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows und OS/2 > ## Debian Developer > ## PGP encryption welcome > ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Mechtilde [mailto:o...@mechtilde.de] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 8:52 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > +1 for all points (binding) You think this is a vote for PMC members? Or what else do you want to express _at this point_ with "binding"? I think we are here, in this specific case, in a vote where all votes have the same weight. Yes, I think that this remark is necessary, because it would be possible to insist on "binding", but this was not announced and should not be done during the vote. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
+1 for all points (binding) Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias, all > >> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >> >> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png > > on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th > Anniversary celebration) > > I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location > main/default_images/introabout > to replace the current about.png > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Mechtilde Stehmann ## Apache OpenOffice ## Freie Office Suite für Linux, MacOSX, Windows und OS/2 ## Debian Developer ## PGP encryption welcome ## F0E3 7F3D C87A 4998 2899 39E7 F287 7BBA 141A AD7F signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Due to some current statements of Mathias in the thread "Proposals" I want to change my vote from +-0 to: -0.9 Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Proposals (was: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans])
Hi, Please do not hijack a VOTE. You can answer +1, abstain or -1 (giving your reason) Proposals could (and should) have been made months ago. Even "open source" vs. "open-source" has already been discussed in June. And to answer Czesław: The font is of course "Source Sans Pro", not "Arial". Regards, Matthias Am 09.09.20 um 11:33 schrieb Bidouille: > Another suggestion: > https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png > > - Mail original - >> De: "Jörg Schmidt" >> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44 >> Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th >> anniversary plans] >> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM >>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >>> Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: >>> About 20th anniversary plans] >>> >>> Hi Matthias, all >>> >>>> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >>>> >>>> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? >>> I call for a vote on the usage of this image >>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png >> +-0 >> >> Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am >> not a graphics expert to improve it. >> >> I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open >> source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative";) should be >> called "open source", because this is about English and not German). >> Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example >> https://www.apache.org/ or >> http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html >> >> >> >> Jörg >> >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Hi Pedro, See below Am 08.09.20 um 19:10 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias, all > >> On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? >> >> The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png > > on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th > Anniversary celebration) > > I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location > main/default_images/introabout > to replace the current about.png +1 Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:48 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png > > For me, if a sentence must be used, it should be translated > for localized version. > So, I think a logotype is better. first of all: I don't know if my suggestion is better, in any case I did _not_ say so. But I find your reasoning unlogical, because: why should it be a question of _a sentence_? Either it's a question of a general translation, in which case the logo should only contain a "20" (and not "20 years"), or it's not a question of translation. (Yes, I am of the opinion that "20" alone is _not_ to be misunderstood.) Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:ofarr...@iol.ie] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 2:31 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Maybe the spelling would be too: > > > > "Open. For all. Since 20 years" > > In terms of better English grammar and punctuation, it should be > > Open, for all, for 20 years. Absolutely correct, only less advertising psychologically. Not without reason I had pointed out the missing point (in: "Since 20 years") and I hope that you believe me that I know that the grammar was formally wrong. Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png For me, if a sentence must be used, it should be translated for localized version. So, I think a logotype is better. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 13:56:56 +0200 Jörg Schmidt wrote: > Hello Czesław, *, > > > -Original Message- > > From: Czesław Wolański [mailto:czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:11 PM > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > > About 20th anniversary plans] > > > > Hi Jörg, all > > > > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > > > > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png > > > > Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8" > > based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part). > > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsN > > L1s/view?usp=sharing > > In my opinion, the proposal with the text to the right of the existing logo > looks similarly unfavorable as the original proposal (i mean: > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png) > > > BTW: > > What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"? > > Arial italic > > > > I still don't feel my own proposal is optimal, although I had already varied > a lot. > It is important to find an optimum between content and design of the text and > the use of elements of the actual logo. > > e.g. I first tried to write "Open" and "20 years" in blue and "for all since" > in dark grey, but that seemed to distort the content. > > Maybe the spelling would be too: > > "Open. For all. Since 20 years" In terms of better English grammar and punctuation, it should be Open, for all, for 20 years. or better yet Open for all, for 20 years. Rory > (at the end, without dot) > > feasible, because in the de-OOo-Community we (i think it was Eric H.) once > invented a very public slogan : > > "Open. For Business" > (at the end, without dot) > > > > > Jörg > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > -- Rory O'Farrell - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Hello Czesław, *, > -Original Message- > From: Czesław Wolański [mailto:czeslaw.wolan...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 1:11 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Hi Jörg, all > > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png > > Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8" > based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part). > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsN > L1s/view?usp=sharing In my opinion, the proposal with the text to the right of the existing logo looks similarly unfavorable as the original proposal (i mean: https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png) > BTW: > What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"? Arial italic I still don't feel my own proposal is optimal, although I had already varied a lot. It is important to find an optimum between content and design of the text and the use of elements of the actual logo. e.g. I first tried to write "Open" and "20 years" in blue and "for all since" in dark grey, but that seemed to distort the content. Maybe the spelling would be too: "Open. For all. Since 20 years" (at the end, without dot) feasible, because in the de-OOo-Community we (i think it was Eric H.) once invented a very public slogan : "Open. For Business" (at the end, without dot) Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Hi Jörg, all > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png Just a little variation on the theme "Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8" based upon your suggestion (and minor/cosmetic alteration on my part). https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UPed2jyIhHEp9ST49q0uNgqFDWJsNL1s/view?usp=sharing BTW: What font is used for: "Open for all / since 20 years"? Regards, Czesław ср, 9 сент. 2020 г. в 12:22, Jörg Schmidt : > > -Original Message- > > From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:34 AM > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > > About 20th anniversary plans] > > > > Another suggestion: > > https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png > > If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: > > http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png > > > > Jörg > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Bidouille [mailto:ooofo...@free.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:34 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Another suggestion: > https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png If there is still time for suggestions, here is mine: http://calc-info.de/files/AOO_20years.png Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Another suggestion: https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIjjGPLiU5s_about-20yrs.png - Mail original - > De: "Jörg Schmidt" > À: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Envoyé: Mercredi 9 Septembre 2020 08:24:44 > Objet: RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th > anniversary plans] > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM > > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > > Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > > About 20th anniversary plans] > > > > Hi Matthias, all > > > > > On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel > > wrote: > > > > > I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? > > > > > > The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > > > > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png > > +-0 > > Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am > not a graphics expert to improve it. > > I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open > source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative";) should be > called "open source", because this is about English and not German). > Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example > https://www.apache.org/ or > http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html > > > > Jörg > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
> -Original Message- > From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2020 7:10 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: [vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: > About 20th anniversary plans] > > Hi Matthias, all > > > On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel > wrote: > > > I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? > > > > The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? > > I call for a vote on the usage of this image > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png +-0 Sorry, but I don't like the picture optically, but unfortunately I am not a graphics expert to improve it. I would also like to point out that "open-source" might be "open source" (as in : "Open Source Initiative - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Source_Initiative";) should be called "open source", because this is about English and not German). Also the ASF itself normally writes "open source", see for example https://www.apache.org/ or http://www.apache.org/theapacheway/index.html Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
[vote] Logo for About dialog in 4.1.8 [was: Re: About 20th anniversary plans]
Hi Matthias, all > On 09/08/2020 3:11 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? > > The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? I call for a vote on the usage of this image https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/about_20yrs.png on the About dialog of version 4.1.8 (to be released during the 20th Anniversary celebration) I propose that it is committed to branch 4.1.8 in location main/default_images/introabout to replace the current about.png Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Proposal: https://www.cjoint.com/doc/20_09/JIioC4iLvJp_aoo-20th-anniversary.odg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Pedro, Am 07.09.20 um 22:35 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Czeslaw, all > >> Pedro's proposal >> seems to me sort of "embarras de richesses" (in French: "confusing >> abundance"). > I warned in advance that I am not a designer. In any case, without a vector > version there is little that can be done... > >> "Open-source for 20 years" does the job properly. > Fine by me. Can I move forward with this option? > Any votes against? I am still not sure what I should vote for/against? The graphic (which one)? Or committing it to branch 418? Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Pedro, Am 08.09.20 um 14:03 schrieb Pedro Lino: >> On 09/08/2020 12:34 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> You can fork the branch on GitHub and create a Pull Request. >> I am no expert in Git, a lot of (bad) things can be done with commands. ;-) > That is exactly why I was asking on this mailing list before doing > anything... :) That's why we prefer people to do Pull Requests... ;-) > >> If you don't already have write access, you can do that with self service: >> >> https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/ > Thank you for the link. Almost there! > >> Yes, I would rather refer to the graphic in configure (as I always did). > That would mean that anybody wanting to compile would have to change their > configure command instead of simply compiling after downloading the branch... > Isn't it easier for everybody just changing the logo on the source for this > branch? If we do a backup of the original graphic that we can restore for 419 that would work. But I am not the one to decide. > >> Remember, Lazy Consensus has to last for 72 hours. I am not sure when >> your "vote" has begun. > Yesterday at 9:35 (I'm sorry I did not comment on your email back in June...) And don't mix up Lazy Consensus with a vote. Two separate things. But both must be easy to be recognized, no "stealth mode" ;-) Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
> On 09/08/2020 12:34 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > You can fork the branch on GitHub and create a Pull Request. > I am no expert in Git, a lot of (bad) things can be done with commands. ;-) That is exactly why I was asking on this mailing list before doing anything... :) > If you don't already have write access, you can do that with self service: > > https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/ Thank you for the link. Almost there! > Yes, I would rather refer to the graphic in configure (as I always did). That would mean that anybody wanting to compile would have to change their configure command instead of simply compiling after downloading the branch... Isn't it easier for everybody just changing the logo on the source for this branch? > Remember, Lazy Consensus has to last for 72 hours. I am not sure when > your "vote" has begun. Yesterday at 9:35 (I'm sorry I did not comment on your email back in June...) Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Pedro, All, Am 08.09.20 um 13:21 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 09/08/2020 11:48 AM Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> I didn't mean github, but the git command in Linux... >>> I can switch the logo in my local copy and compile with it. The question is >>> how to commit that change... >> You can't if you don't have write access to our Git repo. >> That's what Pull Requests are for! > Ok. I assumed doing it through the git command would also submit my changes > so that they would be evaluated and merged if accepted. > Is there any way to fork the 418 branch only or do I need to fork the whole > openoffice project? What I forgot: "Normally" only the Release Manager merges commits into a (to be released) branch. However, I did a lot of small commits over the past year. Don Lewis did highly appreciated code commits recently. @Jim: Would you be available as Release Manager once more? Regards, Matthias > >> The question still is if we want to overwrite the graphic. > We do. At least we have 2 votes for (mine and Czeslaw's, I'm not counting you > :)) and none against. So in my view by lazy consensus this was already > approved... > Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is "ready" >>> I think the plan is to release 4.1.8 next month for the 20th Aniversary so >>> it would be good that there is a consensus that it is ready before that? >> A plan is a plan. And we can only release it when it is ready. So hurry >> up, people! ;-) > +1 > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Am 08.09.20 um 13:21 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 09/08/2020 11:48 AM Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> I didn't mean github, but the git command in Linux... >>> I can switch the logo in my local copy and compile with it. The question is >>> how to commit that change... >> You can't if you don't have write access to our Git repo. >> That's what Pull Requests are for! > Ok. I assumed doing it through the git command would also submit my changes > so that they would be evaluated and merged if accepted. > Is there any way to fork the 418 branch only or do I need to fork the whole > openoffice project? You can fork the branch on GitHub and create a Pull Request. I am no expert in Git, a lot of (bad) things can be done with commands. ;-) If you don't already have write access, you can do that with self service: https://gitbox.apache.org/setup/ > >> The question still is if we want to overwrite the graphic. > We do. At least we have 2 votes for (mine and Czeslaw's, I'm not counting you > :)) and none against. So in my view by lazy consensus this was already > approved... Yes, I would rather refer to the graphic in configure (as I always did). Remember, Lazy Consensus has to last for 72 hours. I am not sure when your "vote" has begun. Regards, Matthias > Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is "ready" >>> I think the plan is to release 4.1.8 next month for the 20th Aniversary so >>> it would be good that there is a consensus that it is ready before that? >> A plan is a plan. And we can only release it when it is ready. So hurry >> up, people! ;-) > +1 > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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Hi Matthias > On 09/08/2020 11:48 AM Matthias Seidel wrote: > > I didn't mean github, but the git command in Linux... > > I can switch the logo in my local copy and compile with it. The question is > > how to commit that change... > > You can't if you don't have write access to our Git repo. > That's what Pull Requests are for! Ok. I assumed doing it through the git command would also submit my changes so that they would be evaluated and merged if accepted. Is there any way to fork the 418 branch only or do I need to fork the whole openoffice project? > The question still is if we want to overwrite the graphic. We do. At least we have 2 votes for (mine and Czeslaw's, I'm not counting you :)) and none against. So in my view by lazy consensus this was already approved... > >> Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is > >> "ready" > > I think the plan is to release 4.1.8 next month for the 20th Aniversary so > > it would be good that there is a consensus that it is ready before that? > > A plan is a plan. And we can only release it when it is ready. So hurry > up, people! ;-) +1 Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Hi Pedro, Am 08.09.20 um 12:39 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias, all > >> On 09/06/2020 11:16 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > A Pull Request cannot break stuff. It is easy to do on GitHub. >>> Pull? Shouldn't it be Push? I'm not sure if I won't break stuff and it's >>> less than a month for release... >> Git calls it Pull requests: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls >> > I didn't mean github, but the git command in Linux... > I can switch the logo in my local copy and compile with it. The question is > how to commit that change... You can't if you don't have write access to our Git repo. That's what Pull Requests are for! The question still is if we want to overwrite the graphic. > >> Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is >> "ready" > I think the plan is to release 4.1.8 next month for the 20th Aniversary so it > would be good that there is a consensus that it is ready before that? A plan is a plan. And we can only release it when it is ready. So hurry up, people! ;-) Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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Hi Matthias, all > On 09/06/2020 11:16 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > >> A Pull Request cannot break stuff. It is easy to do on GitHub. > > Pull? Shouldn't it be Push? I'm not sure if I won't break stuff and it's > > less than a month for release... > > Git calls it Pull requests: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls > I didn't mean github, but the git command in Linux... I can switch the logo in my local copy and compile with it. The question is how to commit that change... > Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is > "ready" I think the plan is to release 4.1.8 next month for the 20th Aniversary so it would be good that there is a consensus that it is ready before that? Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Hi Keith > On 09/08/2020 3:34 AM Keith N. McKenna wrote: > On 9/7/2020 5:52 AM, Pedro Lino wrote: > > This raises another question: in some versions of the AOO logos there is a > > TM and in others a R. Which is correct? > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_OpenOffice_logo_and_wordmark_(2014).svg > ® is the preferred as OpenOffice is now a registered TM in the United States Thank you for the clarification. I had already researched and found the following article (in case someone else is curious) https://www.upcounsel.com/trademark-vs-registered Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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On 9/7/2020 5:52 AM, Pedro Lino wrote: > Hi Jörg > >> On 09/07/2020 9:24 AM Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >> I had recently suggested replacing the yellow (at 20 years) with a color >> that would be more recognizable. >> >> I mentioned orange as an alternative color, but I can't say if this would be >> the best choice. >> Maybe you should just use the red-brown of the Apache lettering? > > I agree. Maybe some colour from the Apache feather > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Apache_Feather_Logo.svg > >> Unfortunately it is not so easy to create an example directly because "20 >> years" contains antialiasing. > > Yes, this requires that the original author does that (or shares a vector > version of the original) > > This raises another question: in some versions of the AOO logos there is a TM > and in others a R. Which is correct? > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_OpenOffice_logo_and_wordmark_(2014).svg > > Regards, > Pedro > Pedro ® is the preferred as OpenOffice is now a registered TM in the United States Regards Keith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Hi Czeslaw, all > Pedro's proposal > seems to me sort of "embarras de richesses" (in French: "confusing > abundance"). I warned in advance that I am not a designer. In any case, without a vector version there is little that can be done... > "Open-source for 20 years" does the job properly. Fine by me. Can I move forward with this option? Any votes against? Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Hi all, @ Matthias > While I like the graphic from the French list > I don't see it > in the context of AOO dialogs. +1 Additional remark: As I already pointed out (dev@ subject "OpenOffice 20 years event", 29 August) I like the idea of combining the "O/0" character and the seagull logo. Image provided by the French volunteer is a self-standing entity and Pedro's proposal seems to me sort of "embarras de richesses" (in French: "confusing abundance"). I see the bigger seagull logo on the one side of "Apache/OpenOffice 4" and its reduced copy on the other. That doesn't look very appealing and IMHO strains one's eyes - no matter what colour "20 years" would take. "Open-source for 20 years" does the job properly. Regards, Czesław Wolański пн, 7 сент. 2020 г. в 16:12, Matthias Seidel : > Hi Pedro, > > Am 07.09.20 um 11:52 schrieb Pedro Lino: > > Hi Jörg > > > >> On 09/07/2020 9:24 AM Jörg Schmidt wrote: > >> I had recently suggested replacing the yellow (at 20 years) with a > color that would be more recognizable. > >> > >> I mentioned orange as an alternative color, but I can't say if this > would be the best choice. > >> Maybe you should just use the red-brown of the Apache lettering? > > I agree. Maybe some colour from the Apache feather > > > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Apache_Feather_Logo.svg > > > >> Unfortunately it is not so easy to create an example directly because > "20 years" contains antialiasing. > > Yes, this requires that the original author does that (or shares a > vector version of the original) > > > > This raises another question: in some versions of the AOO logos there is > a TM and in others a R. Which is correct? > > There is only one source for the logos: > > https://www.apache.org/logos/?#openoffice > > As you might have noticed graphics were changed in the source and on the > homepages recently. > But as only one person (guess who?) does this it can take a while until > everything is up to date. > > > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_OpenOffice_logo_and_wordmark_(2014).svg > > This should be updated. The artwork is the same, except for the > registered trademark. > > Regards, > > Matthias > > > > > Regards, > > Pedro > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > >
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Pedro, Am 07.09.20 um 11:52 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Jörg > >> On 09/07/2020 9:24 AM Jörg Schmidt wrote: >> I had recently suggested replacing the yellow (at 20 years) with a color >> that would be more recognizable. >> >> I mentioned orange as an alternative color, but I can't say if this would be >> the best choice. >> Maybe you should just use the red-brown of the Apache lettering? > I agree. Maybe some colour from the Apache feather > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Apache_Feather_Logo.svg > >> Unfortunately it is not so easy to create an example directly because "20 >> years" contains antialiasing. > Yes, this requires that the original author does that (or shares a vector > version of the original) > > This raises another question: in some versions of the AOO logos there is a TM > and in others a R. Which is correct? There is only one source for the logos: https://www.apache.org/logos/?#openoffice As you might have noticed graphics were changed in the source and on the homepages recently. But as only one person (guess who?) does this it can take a while until everything is up to date. > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_OpenOffice_logo_and_wordmark_(2014).svg This should be updated. The artwork is the same, except for the registered trademark. Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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Hi Peter, Am 07.09.20 um 01:47 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > I am +1, if not Matthias is the one who does everything. Over the last years I've created templates for most of our graphics, so there is no technical reason that prevents doing another one. BUT: - Some weeks ago, I proposed a graphic for the About dialog and got minimal feedback. - Now Pedro likes to add the Intro graphic. - Maybe next week someone wants to add the StartCenter (which I am totally against) So, basically we must first come to a conclusion and then start to work... > > It should be a community thing. We got some pictures from the french > List. > > If i.e. Pedro can create a patch to add them in, I think it is great. While I like the graphic from the French list I don't see it in the context of AOO dialogs. Have we ever got a reply or a vector based version? > > I am kind of negative if in the End Matthias has to do it all alone. > > We have to get more people get involved in such stuff. There were always only a handful (literally) of people doing all the work for a release. It would be great if that situation could be improved. Regards, Matthias > > > I hope I could make myself clear on the constraints I see ;) > > > All the Best > > Peter > > Am 07.09.20 um 00:16 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> Hi Pedro, >> >> Am 07.09.20 um 00:00 schrieb Pedro Lino: >>> Hi Matthias >>> On 09/06/2020 5:44 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: Well, I didn't create a graphic for the Intro because I really think it is not needed. If others want one, this should be discussed. >>> Then let's discuss :) >>> I think that for a matter of consistency both screens should be kept >>> similar. Is it not what is done for a Test build or a Developer build? >> I do it for my personal Test Builds and we did it for Dev Builds. But >> there is no rule for it. >> >> AOO 4.1.8 being a "normal" build (just happening around the 20th >> anniversary) only needs a modified About graphic (IMO). >> >> But I will step back, since I would be the one to do the work (as I >> already did) and wait what others think of it. >> >> So, which would be the proper folder and why don't you crate a Pull >> Request? ;-) > I would say main/default_images/introabout? Yes, but that would override our "original" graphic. >>> But only for branch 4.1.8 which will not be further developed? >> Of course we can restore the old graphic in branch 419 when it is >> branched off 418. >> >> But I will not decide that, since it is easier for me to specify it in >> configure. >> >>> I assume this does not affect the other branches. If it does, then >>> it should be somewhere else >>> A Pull Request cannot break stuff. It is easy to do on GitHub. >>> Pull? Shouldn't it be Push? I'm not sure if I won't break stuff and >>> it's less than a month for release... >> Git calls it Pull requests: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls >> >> Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is >> "ready" >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias >> >>> Regards >>> Pedro >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
RE: About 20th anniversary plans
Hello Pedro, > -Original Message- > From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2020 11:53 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: RE: About 20th anniversary plans > > Hi Jörg > > > On 09/07/2020 9:24 AM Jörg Schmidt wrote: > > > I had recently suggested replacing the yellow (at 20 years) > with a color that would be more recognizable. > > > > I mentioned orange as an alternative color, but I can't say > if this would be the best choice. > > Maybe you should just use the red-brown of the Apache lettering? > > I agree. Maybe some colour from the Apache feather > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Apache_Fea > ther_Logo.svg Yes. Basically, all colors of the feather are suitable, my personal taste would be the 'upper' colors from about #F69923 to #D43831. greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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Hi Jörg > On 09/07/2020 9:24 AM Jörg Schmidt wrote: > I had recently suggested replacing the yellow (at 20 years) with a color that > would be more recognizable. > > I mentioned orange as an alternative color, but I can't say if this would be > the best choice. > Maybe you should just use the red-brown of the Apache lettering? I agree. Maybe some colour from the Apache feather https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Apache_Feather_Logo.svg > Unfortunately it is not so easy to create an example directly because "20 > years" contains antialiasing. Yes, this requires that the original author does that (or shares a vector version of the original) This raises another question: in some versions of the AOO logos there is a TM and in others a R. Which is correct? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apache_OpenOffice_logo_and_wordmark_(2014).svg Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: About 20th anniversary plans
Hello, > -Original Message- > From: Pedro Lino [mailto:pedro.l...@mailbox.org] > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2020 9:05 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: About 20th anniversary plans > > Hi Peter, all > > I'm not a designer but can hack stuff using Gimp :) > > I adapted the idea submitted by the french volunteer (we can > not use the images as they are because they must have the > exact same pixel size to fit in the dialogs) > > In the Intro screen the white space below the word OpenOffice > can not be used because it is where the progress bar is > displayed during loading. > > https://imgur.com/a/ZNYjwDq > > Comments/suggestions? I had recently suggested replacing the yellow (at 20 years) with a color that would be more recognizable. I mentioned orange as an alternative color, but I can't say if this would be the best choice. Maybe you should just use the red-brown of the Apache lettering? Unfortunately it is not so easy to create an example directly because "20 years" contains antialiasing. greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Peter, all I'm not a designer but can hack stuff using Gimp :) I adapted the idea submitted by the french volunteer (we can not use the images as they are because they must have the exact same pixel size to fit in the dialogs) In the Intro screen the white space below the word OpenOffice can not be used because it is where the progress bar is displayed during loading. https://imgur.com/a/ZNYjwDq Comments/suggestions? > On 09/07/2020 12:47 AM Peter Kovacs wrote: > > > I am +1, if not Matthias is the one who does everything. > > It should be a community thing. We got some pictures from the french List. > > If i.e. Pedro can create a patch to add them in, I think it is great. > > I am kind of negative if in the End Matthias has to do it all alone. > > We have to get more people get involved in such stuff. > > > I hope I could make myself clear on the constraints I see ;) > > > All the Best > > Peter > > Am 07.09.20 um 00:16 schrieb Matthias Seidel: > > Hi Pedro, > > > > Am 07.09.20 um 00:00 schrieb Pedro Lino: > >> Hi Matthias > >> > >>> On 09/06/2020 5:44 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > >>> Well, I didn't create a graphic for the Intro because I really think it > >>> is not needed. > >>> > >>> If others want one, this should be discussed. > >> > >> Then let's discuss :) > >> I think that for a matter of consistency both screens should be kept > >> similar. Is it not what is done for a Test build or a Developer build? > > I do it for my personal Test Builds and we did it for Dev Builds. But > > there is no rule for it. > > > > AOO 4.1.8 being a "normal" build (just happening around the 20th > > anniversary) only needs a modified About graphic (IMO). > > > > But I will step back, since I would be the one to do the work (as I > > already did) and wait what others think of it. > > > > So, which would be the proper folder and why don't you crate a Pull > > Request? ;-) > I would say main/default_images/introabout? > >>> Yes, but that would override our "original" graphic. > >> But only for branch 4.1.8 which will not be further developed? > > Of course we can restore the old graphic in branch 419 when it is > > branched off 418. > > > > But I will not decide that, since it is easier for me to specify it in > > configure. > > > >> I assume this does not affect the other branches. If it does, then it > >> should be somewhere else > >> > >>> A Pull Request cannot break stuff. It is easy to do on GitHub. > >> Pull? Shouldn't it be Push? I'm not sure if I won't break stuff and it's > >> less than a month for release... > > Git calls it Pull requests: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls > > > > Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is > > "ready" > > > > Regards, > > > > Matthias > > > >> Regards > >> Pedro > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: About 20th anniversary plans
Hello, > -Original Message- > From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Monday, September 07, 2020 1:48 AM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: About 20th anniversary plans > > I am +1, if not Matthias is the one who does everything. This is not an argument. When technical issues are discussed, ONLY technical arguments should count. > It should be a community thing. We got some pictures from the > french List. > > If i.e. Pedro can create a patch to add them in, I think it is great. > > I am kind of negative if in the End Matthias has to do it all alone. > > We have to get more people get involved in such stuff. Whose fault is it that people vote with their feet? greetings, Jörg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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I am +1, if not Matthias is the one who does everything. It should be a community thing. We got some pictures from the french List. If i.e. Pedro can create a patch to add them in, I think it is great. I am kind of negative if in the End Matthias has to do it all alone. We have to get more people get involved in such stuff. I hope I could make myself clear on the constraints I see ;) All the Best Peter Am 07.09.20 um 00:16 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Hi Pedro, Am 07.09.20 um 00:00 schrieb Pedro Lino: Hi Matthias On 09/06/2020 5:44 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: Well, I didn't create a graphic for the Intro because I really think it is not needed. If others want one, this should be discussed. Then let's discuss :) I think that for a matter of consistency both screens should be kept similar. Is it not what is done for a Test build or a Developer build? I do it for my personal Test Builds and we did it for Dev Builds. But there is no rule for it. AOO 4.1.8 being a "normal" build (just happening around the 20th anniversary) only needs a modified About graphic (IMO). But I will step back, since I would be the one to do the work (as I already did) and wait what others think of it. So, which would be the proper folder and why don't you crate a Pull Request? ;-) I would say main/default_images/introabout? Yes, but that would override our "original" graphic. But only for branch 4.1.8 which will not be further developed? Of course we can restore the old graphic in branch 419 when it is branched off 418. But I will not decide that, since it is easier for me to specify it in configure. I assume this does not affect the other branches. If it does, then it should be somewhere else A Pull Request cannot break stuff. It is easy to do on GitHub. Pull? Shouldn't it be Push? I'm not sure if I won't break stuff and it's less than a month for release... Git calls it Pull requests: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is "ready" Regards, Matthias Regards Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Pedro, Am 07.09.20 um 00:00 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 09/06/2020 5:44 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Well, I didn't create a graphic for the Intro because I really think it >> is not needed. >> >> If others want one, this should be discussed. > > Then let's discuss :) > I think that for a matter of consistency both screens should be kept similar. > Is it not what is done for a Test build or a Developer build? I do it for my personal Test Builds and we did it for Dev Builds. But there is no rule for it. AOO 4.1.8 being a "normal" build (just happening around the 20th anniversary) only needs a modified About graphic (IMO). But I will step back, since I would be the one to do the work (as I already did) and wait what others think of it. > So, which would be the proper folder and why don't you crate a Pull Request? ;-) >>> I would say main/default_images/introabout? >> Yes, but that would override our "original" graphic. > But only for branch 4.1.8 which will not be further developed? Of course we can restore the old graphic in branch 419 when it is branched off 418. But I will not decide that, since it is easier for me to specify it in configure. > I assume this does not affect the other branches. If it does, then it should > be somewhere else > >> A Pull Request cannot break stuff. It is easy to do on GitHub. > Pull? Shouldn't it be Push? I'm not sure if I won't break stuff and it's less > than a month for release... Git calls it Pull requests: https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls Branch 418 is almost 12 month old. And it will be released when it is "ready" Regards, Matthias > > Regards > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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Hi Matthias > On 09/06/2020 5:44 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Well, I didn't create a graphic for the Intro because I really think it > is not needed. > > If others want one, this should be discussed. Then let's discuss :) I think that for a matter of consistency both screens should be kept similar. Is it not what is done for a Test build or a Developer build? > >> So, which would be the proper folder and why don't you crate a Pull > >> Request? ;-) > > I would say main/default_images/introabout? > > Yes, but that would override our "original" graphic. But only for branch 4.1.8 which will not be further developed? I assume this does not affect the other branches. If it does, then it should be somewhere else > A Pull Request cannot break stuff. It is easy to do on GitHub. Pull? Shouldn't it be Push? I'm not sure if I won't break stuff and it's less than a month for release... Regards Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Pedro, Am 06.09.20 um 16:59 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 09/06/2020 1:50 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >>> I can hack the Intro screen with the same text >> We shouldn't do any "hacking" here... > Hacking is what we do when we change things. It has been wrongly associated > with evil things. You are a white hat hacker ;) > Unless I misunderstood your comment and you disagree on changing the Intro > screen? Well, I didn't create a graphic for the Intro because I really think it is not needed. If others want one, this should be discussed. > >> So, which would be the proper folder and why don't you crate a Pull >> Request? ;-) > I would say main/default_images/introabout? Yes, but that would override our "original" graphic. I would rather refer to the graphic in ./configure. But again, if others want it to be that way, we should discuss. > This is what I'm doing by email :) I don't know how to do that in git :) > I assume a combination of commit and/or push but I don't want to break stuff! A Pull Request cannot break stuff. It is easy to do on GitHub. Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Matthias > On 09/06/2020 1:50 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > > I can hack the Intro screen with the same text > > We shouldn't do any "hacking" here... Hacking is what we do when we change things. It has been wrongly associated with evil things. You are a white hat hacker ;) Unless I misunderstood your comment and you disagree on changing the Intro screen? > So, which would be the proper folder and why don't you crate a Pull > Request? ;-) I would say main/default_images/introabout? This is what I'm doing by email :) I don't know how to do that in git :) I assume a combination of commit and/or push but I don't want to break stuff! Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Pedro, Am 06.09.20 um 14:47 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias > >> On 09/06/2020 1:21 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: >> Am 06.09.20 um 14:17 schrieb Pedro Lino: >>> Hi Matthias, all >>> >>> I assumed it was approved by lazy consensus that version 4.1.8 would use >>> the "open-source for 20 years" message both in the Intro and in the About >>> dialogs? >> No, only for the About dialog. > I think it would make sense to add it to the Intro as well. > +1 vote > I can hack the Intro screen with the same text We shouldn't do any "hacking" here... > >> You can find it here: >> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/4.1.8/ > I already had the image. My point was that it should be added to the proper > folder in github so that it is included when I do a git pull origin AOO418 So, which would be the proper folder and why don't you crate a Pull Request? ;-) Regards, Matthias > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Matthias > On 09/06/2020 1:21 PM Matthias Seidel wrote: > Am 06.09.20 um 14:17 schrieb Pedro Lino: > > Hi Matthias, all > > > > I assumed it was approved by lazy consensus that version 4.1.8 would use > > the "open-source for 20 years" message both in the Intro and in the About > > dialogs? > No, only for the About dialog. I think it would make sense to add it to the Intro as well. +1 vote I can hack the Intro screen with the same text > You can find it here: > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/4.1.8/ I already had the image. My point was that it should be added to the proper folder in github so that it is included when I do a git pull origin AOO418 Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Pedro, Am 06.09.20 um 14:17 schrieb Pedro Lino: > Hi Matthias, all > > I assumed it was approved by lazy consensus that version 4.1.8 would use the > "open-source for 20 years" message both in the Intro and in the About dialogs? No, only for the About dialog. > > Can these images be committed to the 4.1.8 branch for testing (not that it > could break something but just to check if it looks good)? You can find it here: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/build-scripts/4.1.8/ Regards, Matthias > > Thanks! > > Regards, > Pedro > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Matthias, all I assumed it was approved by lazy consensus that version 4.1.8 would use the "open-source for 20 years" message both in the Intro and in the About dialogs? Can these images be committed to the 4.1.8 branch for testing (not that it could break something but just to check if it looks good)? Thanks! Regards, Pedro - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: About 20th anniversary plans
Hi Hyeon, Am 01.09.20 um 16:16 schrieb Hyeon Lee: > Hi, > > Is there any webpage about the volunteering and participating on the 20th > anniversary? I was off from the dev mailing list for a while and I would be > happy if there is any plans in written form, so that I could have a look. (or > about 4.1.8 too!) I can't say anything regarding a 20th anniversary event but for AOO 4.1.8 we are trying to document as much as possible. See [1] for the Release Schedule See [2] for the Release Notes (Draft) See [3] for the differences (compared to 4.1.7) on GitHub Feel free to ask if you have any specific question. Regards, Matthias [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.8 [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.8+Release+Notes [3] https://github.com/apache/openoffice/compare/AOO417...AOO418 > > Thanks. > > Regards, > Hyeon > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
About 20th anniversary plans
Hi, Is there any webpage about the volunteering and participating on the 20th anniversary? I was off from the dev mailing list for a while and I would be happy if there is any plans in written form, so that I could have a look. (or about 4.1.8 too!) Thanks. Regards, Hyeon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
