Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-20 Thread Donald Harbison
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds a bit like the Marcons for marketing in the original OO.o project. Right. But I hope it is clear to everyone that the main difference between

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-14 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi, On 14 Jan 2015, at 07:17, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 14/01/2015 jan i wrote: I decline my nomination for personal reasons and are not voteable. Copy-pasting the same remark I sent on this list about the other four, I respect your choices and your reasons not to

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 14/01/2015 jan i wrote: I decline my nomination for personal reasons and are not voteable. Copy-pasting the same remark I sent on this list about the other four, I respect your choices and your reasons not to run, but I would like to acknowledge you (and all nominees, and a couple more

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all, I am a PMC member and inactive here, I am very sorry. But I am very active in everyday life :) I changed my job 16 months ago. Now I am a member of Marumitsu Seimen Co., Ltd, http://marumitsu-seimen.com/ which produces and sells several kinds of noodle (wheat noodle, buckwheat noodle,

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread Ian Lynch
Sounds a bit like the Marcons for marketing in the original OO.o project. On 13 January 2015 at 09:45, RA Stehmann anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de wrote: On 12.01.2015 23:22, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Of course, the community could create such roles—Marketing Leads, say. Done that before,

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread RA Stehmann
On 12.01.2015 23:22, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Of course, the community could create such roles—Marketing Leads, say. Done that before, and it works fine. But I’m also keen—and I think others are, too—in keeping to a minimum bureaucratic structures. (Not because I dislike bureaucracy—I

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds a bit like the Marcons for marketing in the original OO.o project. Right. But I hope it is clear to everyone that the main difference between OOo and AOO is not the lack of titles. The main difference is the lack

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2015-01-13 17:44 GMT+01:00 Rob Weir r...@robweir.com: On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:03 AM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds a bit like the Marcons for marketing in the original OO.o project. Right. But I hope it is clear to everyone that the main difference between OOo and AOO is

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 13/01/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: I think, it might be a first step, if some of the PMC members would tell, for what topic they can be a contact person. I believe you understood quite well the spirit of this discussion. Nobody cares about the titles here, it is assumption of responsibility.

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread Marcus
Am 01/13/2015 12:23 PM, schrieb Kazunari Hirano: I am a PMC member and inactive here, I am very sorry. great to see (read) you back here again. :-) Our Apache OpenOffice Japanese community members are few. I think in Japan there are many Apache OpenOffice users and a few developers. Maho

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 13 Jan 2015, at 18:15, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Don't wait for the (old|new) chair to take action. ;-) Start now yourself with stating your problems and attempts you have already done. Then we can reply to this. Yes! louis

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread jan i
Hi Andrea asked me to wait until the discussions was ending before making a final decision, but now its time to decide. I accepted to run for chair and thereby rejoin the PMC, because I was told that the PMC had changed behavior..the discussions have made me sure that my ways of getting things

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 Jan 2015, at 14:02, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 11/01/2015 Marcus wrote: IMHO this PMC is more quite than others inside Apache projects. So, I wouldn't see this as a sign that they won't follow you. Only direct talkings can help to judge this. It is important that

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/01/2015 Marcus wrote: IMHO this PMC is more quite than others inside Apache projects. So, I wouldn't see this as a sign that they won't follow you. Only direct talkings can help to judge this. It is important that the PMC understands that, according to both candidates, the way the

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread jan i
On Monday, January 12, 2015, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 11/01/2015 Marcus wrote: IMHO this PMC is more quite than others inside Apache projects. So, I wouldn't see this as a sign that they won't follow you. Only direct talkings can help to judge this. It is important

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Marcus
Am 01/12/2015 08:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 11/01/2015 Marcus wrote: IMHO this PMC is more quite than others inside Apache projects. So, I wouldn't see this as a sign that they won't follow you. Only direct talkings can help to judge this. It is important that the PMC understands

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/12/2015 08:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 11/01/2015 Marcus wrote: IMHO this PMC is more quite than others inside Apache projects. So, I wouldn't see this as a sign that they won't follow you.

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 Jan 2015, at 17:02, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: So, what about to let both try to realize this as kind of dual chair? Since the Chair at Apache is more ceremonial than THE lead in the best case then there should be nothing to preclude both Jan and Louis from

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Marcus
Am 01/12/2015 11:22 PM, schrieb Louis Suárez-Potts: On 12 Jan 2015, at 17:02, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Asking inactive PMC to go emeritus can be done in any case. The merit does not expire and if willing to be active one can be restored. Right. I was going over the PMC list

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:00, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/12/2015 11:22 PM, schrieb Louis Suárez-Potts: On 12 Jan 2015, at 17:02, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Asking inactive PMC to go emeritus can be done in any case. The merit does not expire and if willing to

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread jan i
On 13 January 2015 at 00:03, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:00, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/12/2015 11:22 PM, schrieb Louis Suárez-Potts: On 12 Jan 2015, at 17:02, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Asking inactive PMC to go

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 12/01/2015 Marcus wrote: I think both are close to each other as both want to strengthen the community. Louis seems to focus on marketing (and to improve the look other have from the outside) and Jan is focusing more on resource improvements inside of the project. For realizing both ideas we

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:20, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Remark, whoever ends up getting elected (maybe we should really open up for new nominations), I will continue to work as usual. Likewise I’ll work as … well, actually, as more than usual. :-) Also: we make what we do with what we get

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/12/2015 03:32 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 12/01/2015 Marcus wrote: I think both are close to each other as both want to strengthen the community. Louis seems to focus on marketing (and to improve the look other have from the outside) and Jan is focusing more on resource improvements

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
jan i wrote: he world as such do not always understand the apache way and to some the chair is more important. Since I am not into marketing (where the title chair matters) I have no need to be chair. I prefer to avoid expressing personal points of view in this discussion, but I can reply to

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-11 Thread Marcus
Am 01/11/2015 07:00 PM, schrieb Roberto Galoppini: 2015-01-11 8:50 GMT+01:00 jan ij...@apache.org: I have during the last days had discussions with multiple PMC members, because I am puzzled or even scared about the level of engagement from the PMC in this nomination. As I wrote in my

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-10 Thread jan i
Hi I have during the last days had discussions with multiple PMC members, because I am puzzled or even scared about the level of engagement from the PMC in this nomination. As I wrote in my introduction, I need the backing of the PMC to carry out changes. my talks have convinced me that the PMC

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-08 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 06/01/15 19:33, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 01/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with nominations. We have 6 nominees so far, very good since all of them

Fwd: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 01/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with nominations. We have 6 nominees so

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-07 Thread Marcus
Am 01/06/2015 07:33 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 01/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with nominations. 1) Whether he/she is available to run for election;

Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-07 Thread jan i
Hi Yes I am available for election excellent chair and helped make the transition to apache go smoothly, now its time we focus on outfacing matters. I am (again) managing our servers as well as pootle. I am planning some major changes in the server setup to make maintenance semi-automatic. I

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-06 Thread jan i
I hereby nominate Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) He has been involved in every major openoffice development for a decade or more. He was my mentor when I joined AOO, and without his mentoring I would not have been here. Jürgen has been involved in all aspects of openoffice and later Apache OpenOffice

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/06/2015 10:33 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 01/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with nominations. We have 6 nominees so far, very good since all of

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 01/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Let's take several days, until 10 January, to receive nominations (or self-nominations) for the next PMC Chair. Just reply to this e-mail with nominations. We have 6 nominees so far, very good since all of them would be excellent choices. I'm now asking

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 02/01/2015 Michal Hriň wrote: So here I chose some people, to make this election easier. This is indeed the aim of this phase (until 10 January): nominating people and knowing if they are available for election. The actual vote will happen later. All people named so far would be good

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-02 Thread jan i
On 2 January 2015 at 15:37, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote: Dňa 01.01.2015 o 23:16 jan i napísal(a): On 1 January 2015 at 22:57, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: As I wrote yesterday, it's time to start looking for a new PMC Chair that can replace me (only for these specific

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-02 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote: Dňa 01.01.2015 o 23:16 jan i napísal(a): On 1 January 2015 at 22:57, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: As I wrote yesterday, it's time to start looking for a new PMC Chair that can replace me (only for these

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-01 Thread jan i
On 1 January 2015 at 22:57, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: As I wrote yesterday, it's time to start looking for a new PMC Chair that can replace me (only for these specific duties; I'll of course continue with all my other activities, that are the vast majority) when applicable.

Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-01 Thread Andrea Pescetti
As I wrote yesterday, it's time to start looking for a new PMC Chair that can replace me (only for these specific duties; I'll of course continue with all my other activities, that are the vast majority) when applicable. We are not in a hurry as I will take care of the January Board report,