Re: Student volunteer Technical Writing

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Nicole,

sorry for the late answer. If you already found something it is fine.

I am not sure what technical documentation contains to your professor. 
Seems like a wide spread range of work with very different needs in 
skills if I check [1].



1. Product Manuals -> Our Product Manuals are equal to user guides. See 
below.


2. Repair Manuals -> not available

3. User Guide -> We have some update going on on our user guide. Maybe 
the documentation team can include you.


4. API Documentation -> Is created from code, should be accurate

5. SDK Documentation -> Unknown state, we could have something here. But 
needs preparation time.


6. Project Plans -> I am not sure if we could produce 30 pages on this  
This is more a windmill topic. Forexample we have have 10k+ of bug 
reports...


7. Business Standards -> I have no clue what this means

8. Test Schedules -> Maybe @Carl can give some info what state our test 
documentation is. Maybe we have needs here that fits to what your 
Professor wants.


9. Market Requirements Documentation -> I have no clue what these 
Documents are.


10. White Papers -> We have nothing prepared. Any Ideas? (We are not 
especially doing a lot of Marketing.)


11. Case Studies -> How about writing a Case Study how usable is 
OpenOffice for technical Document writing. What are the shortfalls, what 
can it do?


12. RFPs & Proposals -> At this point we have no offering in this 
section. If we improve on our code controll, this might change.



Not included in the list is Code Documentation, which we need, but this 
is difficult to produce since you need experience in reading code. And I 
am not sure if that is what your professor wants, since he expects 30+ 
Pages of paper. If you still searching. Please contact me. We figure 
something out on short notice. In this case please cc your professor. I 
would like to understand his requirements.



Another Idea is to ask the TDF. They do tons of marketing. I bet they 
have something nice.


All the best

Peter

[1] https://whatfix.com/blog/types-of-technical-documentation/

Am 13.09.22 um 19:02 schrieb Nicole:

I am a 4th year Technical Communications student in University. I am in a
group of 4 students tasked with completing a technical writing project. We
need to contribute to a 50+ page technical document revision. Or create a
new technical document that will be 30+ pages. This project would need to
be completed by November 19th 2022. Do you have any tasks available that
fit our course requirements?



Nicole D.



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Re: Student volunteer Technical Writing

[Keith N. McKenna]

Nicole wrote:

I am a 4th year Technical Communications student in University. I am in a
group of 4 students tasked with completing a technical writing project. We
need to contribute to a 50+ page technical document revision. Or create a
new technical document that will be 30+ pages. This project would need to
be completed by November 19th 2022. Do you have any tasks available that
fit our course requirements?



Nicole D.


Hi Nicole;

In fact we do. We are currently involved in a major revision of our user 
documentation. The User Guides have not been touched since Version 3.3 
of OpenOffice.org.


If you and your cohort are interested, subscribe to the documentation 
mailing list and we can discuss the particulars there.The requirements 
are that you have access to to the latest Apache OpenOffice®, currently 
it is Version 4.1.3,  and a GitHub account.


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check there for it if it is not in your inbox.
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4) You can now post to the list at d...@openoffice.apache.org.

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Student volunteer Technical Writing

[Nicole]

I am a 4th year Technical Communications student in University. I am in a
group of 4 students tasked with completing a technical writing project. We
need to contribute to a 50+ page technical document revision. Or create a
new technical document that will be 30+ pages. This project would need to
be completed by November 19th 2022. Do you have any tasks available that
fit our course requirements?



Nicole D.

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~Nicole

Re: Inquiry - volunteer

[口 海]

Stop spamming



From: Peter Kovacs 
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 5:55 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org ; Harish Pillai 

Subject: Re: Inquiry - volunteer

Hi Harish,

Am 05.09.22 um 16:22 schrieb Harish Pillai:
> HI there
>
> I wanted to inquire, are you guys looking for a UX person?

Pro-Bono volunteers are welcome.

We are looking for someone that could help create an dark theme Icon set.

If you can code we have various UX Issues that need to be solved.

All the best

Peter


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Re: Inquiry - volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Harish,

Am 05.09.22 um 16:22 schrieb Harish Pillai:

HI there

I wanted to inquire, are you guys looking for a UX person?


Pro-Bono volunteers are welcome.

We are looking for someone that could help create an dark theme Icon set.

If you can code we have various UX Issues that need to be solved.

All the best

Peter


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Inquiry - volunteer

[Harish Pillai]

HI there

I wanted to inquire, are you guys looking for a UX person?

Best,
Harish

Re: volunteer in contributing to Open Office

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi George,

Cool! Volunteers are very welcome. The time you spend is up to you. I am 
very happy if you can regular invest 3h a month.


Even you have no Experience beyond python, would you mind to test our 
build guide and try to build AOO?


We try to switch to SCONs, which is complete python based approach. A 
additional Volunteer who is looking into this field would be awesome.



If you want to look more into testing, I am not sure where we are there, 
but going through Bugzilla and test Issues if they still are accurate 
could be something worth doing.



All the best

Peter


On 15.01.22 15:56, George Bocianu wrote:
  
Hi Carl & Keith,

Sorry for the late reply.
My interest areas are, as I see them prioritised:- Python (beginner)- Data 
analysis (I have previous experience in SPSS)- I am a pretty skilled medium 
user of editing software (probably I would be fitted for user testing)
I`m very grateful for your follow up and looking forward for your reply.

Best regards,George Bocianu00447864190375

 On Saturday, 15 January 2022, 12:46:53 GMT, Keith N. McKenna 
 wrote:
  
  On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:01:54 +, George Bocianu wrote:



Good morning,
I`m George and I`m interested as a volunteer in contributing to Open
Office project.
My time budget is for start 2-3 hours per month, but according to things
to be done I an increase the time to that.

Best regards,George

Welcome George;

Are their any particular areas you are interested in contributing to?
Please reply only too dev@openoffice.apache.org

Regards
Keith N. McKenna
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Re: volunteer in contributing to Open Office

[George Bocianu]

 
Hi Carl & Keith,
Sorry for the late reply.
My interest areas are, as I see them prioritised:- Python (beginner)- Data 
analysis (I have previous experience in SPSS)- I am a pretty skilled medium 
user of editing software (probably I would be fitted for user testing)
I`m very grateful for your follow up and looking forward for your reply.

Best regards,George Bocianu00447864190375

On Saturday, 15 January 2022, 12:46:53 GMT, Keith N. McKenna 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:01:54 +, George Bocianu wrote:

> Good morning,
> I`m George and I`m interested as a volunteer in contributing to Open
> Office project.
> My time budget is for start 2-3 hours per month, but according to things
> to be done I an increase the time to that.
> 
> Best regards,George

Welcome George;

Are their any particular areas you are interested in contributing to?
Please reply only too dev@openoffice.apache.org

Regards
Keith N. McKenna
​  

Re: volunteer in contributing to Open Office

[Keith N. McKenna]

On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:01:54 +, George Bocianu wrote:

> Good morning,
> I`m George and I`m interested as a volunteer in contributing to Open
> Office project.
> My time budget is for start 2-3 hours per month, but according to things
> to be done I an increase the time to that.
> 
> Best regards,George

Welcome George;

Do you have any particular area that you are interested in working in? 

Regards
Keith N. McKenna


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Re: volunteer in contributing to Open Office

[Carl Marcum]

(adding George this time)

Hi George,

On 1/3/22 7:01 AM, George Bocianu wrote:

Good morning,
I`m George and I`m interested as a volunteer in contributing to Open Office 
project.
My time budget is for start 2-3 hours per month, but according to things to be 
done I an increase the time to that.

Best regards,George


Welcome, Do you have areas of interest you are thinking about?

If you haven't already, you may want to subscribe to the one of the 
mailing lists of your interest including this dev@ development mailing 
list [1].


[1] https://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html

Best regards,
Carl

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Re: volunteer in contributing to Open Office

[Carl Marcum]

Hi George,

On 1/3/22 7:01 AM, George Bocianu wrote:

Good morning,
I`m George and I`m interested as a volunteer in contributing to Open Office 
project.
My time budget is for start 2-3 hours per month, but according to things to be 
done I an increase the time to that.

Best regards,George

Welcome, Do you have areas of interest you are thinking about?

Best regards,
Carl

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volunteer in contributing to Open Office

[George Bocianu]

Good morning,
I`m George and I`m interested as a volunteer in contributing to Open Office 
project.
My time budget is for start 2-3 hours per month, but according to things to be 
done I an increase the time to that.

Best regards,George

Re: Volunteer to implement data mining functionality for OpenOffice

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Hao,


sorry for the late reply. I am not sure what you want to do. Data Mining 
/ analytics is a wide field.


OpenOffice can integrate python3. I think this is the way to go for all 
data analytics stuff. More about Python at [2].


I would recommend if you want to add features to start add them as 
extensions [1].




All the best

Peter

[1] 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/Extensions/Extensions


[2] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Python

On 25.11.21 03:34, Hao Wang wrote:

Dear Devs:

I noticed neither WPS nor OpenOffice have data mining functionality (Microsoft 
Office does have it). I'm proposing to implement data mining functionality for 
OpenOffice, but I need some help for integration.

Bravo!
Hao Wang


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Re: I want to volunteer.

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi Gabriel,

sorry for the late reply.

It is a good thinking to start of with submitting bug problem reports 
for starters. However I would like to improve on your idea.


Website Issues:

If you see an Issue on our website we would rather like you to send 
directly a proposal. Or in case of the wiki, just go and fix what you 
want to change. If the community does not agree, we can discuss it. 
Every change is tracked and we can role back in case of need. So in 
order to work on the website all you need is a github account. See our 
guide at [1] for further explainations


Bugzilla:

For working on Bugzilla [2], you need to request a Bugzilla Account. For 
this you write a mail to this list with your request, a prefered user 
name and a n email you own. You can of course still add further bugs to 
the over 10K open Bugs we have. In my opinion if you want to work on 
Bugzilla, it would be more helpfull top check if the reported ones are 
still valid. And in case there is no Test description add a comment how 
to test this case.


Bugzilla Example [3]

In this Bug we see it is on Accepted, which means the report is not only 
open but confirmed. Version it says 619, which is old...


Latest Confirmation is --- Which says we do not know if this is still 
valid. So if you test this one and find out it is still valid. then you 
select the version you have tested with (preferable 4.1.11)


If it is not valid anymore you can close it.


If you could think on my suggestion and provide feedback this would be 
awesome :-)



All the best

Peter


[1] https://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html

[2] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/

[3] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=595


On 03.12.21 01:57, Gabriel Borba wrote:

Hello, my name is Gabriel Borba, I’m 19, and I’m looking to volunteer to submit 
problem reports about the product or website(s).
I already read the guide “How to file a good Issue”, however I’m open to learn 
more about what I need to do, so I can perform a better job

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I want to volunteer.

[Gabriel Borba]

Hello, my name is Gabriel Borba, I’m 19, and I’m looking to volunteer to submit 
problem reports about the product or website(s).
I already read the guide “How to file a good Issue”, however I’m open to learn 
more about what I need to do, so I can perform a better job

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Re: Volunteer to implement data mining functionality for OpenOffice

[Hao Wang]

Microsoft could do clustering on Excel data, for example.

获取 Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>

From: juan francisco Minor 
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2021 1:39:33 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org 
Subject: Re: Volunteer to implement data mining functionality for OpenOffice

Data mining? Can you elaborate? Like mining used data?

Best,
Juan M.

> On Nov 24, 2021, at 8:34 PM, Hao Wang  wrote:
>
> Dear Devs:
>
> I noticed neither WPS nor OpenOffice have data mining functionality 
> (Microsoft Office does have it). I'm proposing to implement data mining 
> functionality for OpenOffice, but I need some help for integration.
>
> Bravo!
> Hao Wang

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Re: Volunteer to implement data mining functionality for OpenOffice

[juan francisco Minor]

Data mining? Can you elaborate? Like mining used data?

Best,
Juan M. 

> On Nov 24, 2021, at 8:34 PM, Hao Wang  wrote:
> 
> Dear Devs:
> 
> I noticed neither WPS nor OpenOffice have data mining functionality 
> (Microsoft Office does have it). I'm proposing to implement data mining 
> functionality for OpenOffice, but I need some help for integration.
> 
> Bravo!
> Hao Wang

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Volunteer as proofreader for English

[Edward Struber]

I am a retired person 72 years young. English is my native language, perro
leo y escribo Espanola y ich schreibe und lese Deutsch.   I earned A's and
B's in my computer science classes, and could read, write [code], and
understand COBOL, FORTRAN, PASCAL and ASSEMBLY before I took up C and C++.
The only one of those that I actually used at work was COBOL.
I am currently learning LINUX for Raspberry Pi as a hobby. I might have to
learn to use PYTHON so won't have to compile my 'C' or 'C++' programs for
use on the PI.

If you have need for a proofreader to review or edit work by a person
whose English is not his or her native language,  email the text for me
to check  at

  struberedwar...@gmail.com 
and I  will return the document with corrections if any corrections
are needed.
Thank you for your consideration,
Edward Struber
That is truthfully Edward Strieber, but only because immigration
 wrote 'ie' instead of 'u umlaut' when my great great grandparents
came ashore from Germany in 1858.  I like to keep any personal
information off the web so any data miner will need to work
harder to compromise my ID or bank accounts, therefore
I use Edward Struber for my email moniker.

Re: Volunteer

[Bidouille]

Hello Audrey

Welcome to the project

>I am > currently a Junior Web Developer student
Which programming language did you know?

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Volunteer

[Audrey Mollitt]

Hello!I saw the section that listed help was needed. I am currently a 
Junior Web Developer student, so I don't have much technical skill yet, but I 
would love to collaborate and help out in any way I can with this project, and 
I am also proficient in the English language.
Thank you very much for your consideration,
Audrey

Re: volunteer activity tracking

[Branko Čibej]

On 24.11.2019 13:19, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>  
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 11:28 AM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking
>>
>>
>> On 24.11.19 09:30, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>>>> Normally we discuss to get a consensus. Crucial votes are 
>>>> out-of-favour.
>>>> This is the only way to keep the community together.
>>> No, that is only a way of unification.
>> But if there is no unification, voices have not been taken 
>> sufficiently
>> into account.
>>
>> If this happens to often, people will go away, and the community is
>> diminished.
> That's not gonna happen. That's happened. 
>
> Lots and lots of former volunteers left the OpenOffice project and either 
> went to LO or turned away from free software.
> Doesn't it show the weakness of our project that we couldn't even stand up to 
> a newcomer like LO? (Nothing general against LO, only it is not our project. 
> Our task is to ensure the success of AOO.)
>
> The example of the ProOO-Box shows how wrong the procedure is in some cases.
> With OOo, the ProOO box was part of the project, with AOO it was suddenly no 
> longer part of the project, but was declared a "third party" without any 
> substantial reason.
> At the persistent request of the volunteers, it was explained that the ProOO 
> box could apply as a separate incubator project. 
> Does nobody understand how absurd this proposal was? Does no one understand 
> how it offended volunteers?


I don't know anything about this story, but in general terms: as far as
I'm aware, a software grant (or other kind of IP contribution) can go
directly to an existing PMC without having to pass through the
Incubator. If anyone said otherwise, they were simply wrong.

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RE: volunteer activity tracking

[Jörg Schmidt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 11:28 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking
> 
> 
> On 24.11.19 09:30, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
> >> Normally we discuss to get a consensus. Crucial votes are 
> >> out-of-favour.
> >> This is the only way to keep the community together.
> > No, that is only a way of unification.
> 
> But if there is no unification, voices have not been taken 
> sufficiently
> into account.
> 
> If this happens to often, people will go away, and the community is
> diminished.

That's not gonna happen. That's happened. 

Lots and lots of former volunteers left the OpenOffice project and either went 
to LO or turned away from free software.
Doesn't it show the weakness of our project that we couldn't even stand up to a 
newcomer like LO? (Nothing general against LO, only it is not our project. Our 
task is to ensure the success of AOO.)

The example of the ProOO-Box shows how wrong the procedure is in some cases.
With OOo, the ProOO box was part of the project, with AOO it was suddenly no 
longer part of the project, but was declared a "third party" without any 
substantial reason.
At the persistent request of the volunteers, it was explained that the ProOO 
box could apply as a separate incubator project. 
Does nobody understand how absurd this proposal was? Does no one understand how 
it offended volunteers?

Of course my answer to Michael is not about the dissent being better, but just 
about the fact that we have to be willing to learn from our own mistakes and to 
implement improvements.



greetings,
Jörg


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Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Peter Kovacs]

On 24.11.19 09:44, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>>> Thank you for this (imho) very important info. Not good 
>> that the community was not informed about it, but this info 
>> was apparently only known internally.
>>
>> It was informed and the discussion was started on September 
>> 1, 2016. [1]
>>
>> I am proud of the community’s progress since then.
> Maybe there are some things to be proud of, only the years go by and AOO is 
> only a shadow compared to the previous OOo.
>
> We haven't managed to become so attractive that more programmers, more 
> volunteers overall, find their way into the project. I'm afraid that's also a 
> consequence of bad project management.
> A self-critical analysis and discussion could improve that, not the kind of 
> talk I unfortunately just read from Michael.

I am open on any suggestion to improve recruitment.

My main problem is that people showing up want a quick easy access and
clear understamble tasks what to do.

I have no open PMC actions that would help me to improve current
situation. I am listening to your suggestions!

I have not seen any so far, but it is never to late to start.


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Re: volunteer activity tracking

[Peter Kovacs]

On 24.11.19 09:30, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>> Normally we discuss to get a consensus. Crucial votes are 
>> out-of-favour.
>> This is the only way to keep the community together.
> No, that is only a way of unification.

But if there is no unification, voices have not been taken sufficiently
into account.

If this happens to often, people will go away, and the community is
diminished.


A concent is that you accept the proposed resolution, even if you do not
agree with the others opinion on the vote.

A resolution is always an action, or a by-rule or a goal to achieve.


I do not see how your argument is not supporting Michaels argument.

So imho you argument needs to be: Yes, that is a way of unification.




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RE: volunteer activity tracking

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Branko Čibej [mailto:br...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 9:31 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking
 
> I'm not sure what you mean by "legally acquired merit."

I mean that community members became PMC members in the way the Apache rules 
dictate.

> > Or are members of the PMC not allowed to have different 
> opinions when voting?
> 
> 
> They surely are, but a healthy community will reach a 
> consensus through
> discussion, not by majority fiat through a vote. This is actually a
> crucial point and what the ASF is all about: and, if you find yourself
> making decisions by voting, rather than the vote being just a way to
> formally confirm prior consensus, then something has gone very wrong.

I think so as much as you do. 
Unfortunately, I also feel that some project or PMC members (not all) are not 
welcome to make critical remarks. So far, I still hope I'm wrong.

> Different opinions /should/ be ironed out through discussion. 
> If they're
> not, eventually the community will break up. If the community finds
> itself unable to form consensus about some topic, it's better to
> postpone any decision, or explore alternatives.
> 
> 
> > And if they may, may they not have different opinions in 
> the future than at the time when they became a PMC member?
> 
> 
> Of course they may. That's a normal consequence of learning, 
> after all.

Thank you. It's good to hear that there are people who see it that way.



greetings,
Jörg


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RE: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Jörg Schmidt]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:42 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back 
> in our PMC and developer circle)
> 
> 
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:11 AM, Jörg Schmidt 
>  wrote:
 
> > Thank you for this (imho) very important info. Not good 
> that the community was not informed about it, but this info 
> was apparently only known internally.
> 
> It was informed and the discussion was started on September 
> 1, 2016. [1]
> 
> I am proud of the community’s progress since then.

Maybe there are some things to be proud of, only the years go by and AOO is 
only a shadow compared to the previous OOo.

We haven't managed to become so attractive that more programmers, more 
volunteers overall, find their way into the project. I'm afraid that's also a 
consequence of bad project management.
A self-critical analysis and discussion could improve that, not the kind of 
talk I unfortunately just read from Michael.


greetings,
Jörg


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RE: volunteer activity tracking

[Jörg Schmidt]

> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:40 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Am 21.11.19 um 14:42 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> 
> > Or are members of the PMC not allowed to have different 
> opinions when voting? And if they may, may they not have 
> different opinions in the future than at the time when they 
> became a PMC member?
> > 
> 
> Normally we discuss to get a consensus. Crucial votes are 
> out-of-favour.
> This is the only way to keep the community together.

No, that is only a way of unification.


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Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Nov 21, 2019, at 1:41 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
> 
> I am proud of the community’s progress since then.
> 

FWIW, so am I. I think it was Good that we (the entire AOO community) took time 
to really decide what we wanted, and expected, from the project and out of the 
project and made sure that those decisions and expectations matched with 
reality.

Re: volunteer activity tracking

[Branko Čibej]

On 21.11.2019 14:42, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>  
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Branko Čibej [mailto:br...@apache.org] 
>> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:16 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking
>
>> I have not heard of a single instance in the history of the ASF where
>> merit was bought -- either through donations or through salaried
>> employees. I'm sure there have been attempts, we all know 
>> what nonsense
>> "smart" managers are capable of coming up with.
> And I didn't(!!!) say anyone intended to buy "merit". I was talking about 
> legally acquired merit.


I'm not sure what you mean by "legally acquired merit."


> Or are members of the PMC not allowed to have different opinions when voting?


They surely are, but a healthy community will reach a consensus through
discussion, not by majority fiat through a vote. This is actually a
crucial point and what the ASF is all about: and, if you find yourself
making decisions by voting, rather than the vote being just a way to
formally confirm prior consensus, then something has gone very wrong.

Different opinions /should/ be ironed out through discussion. If they're
not, eventually the community will break up. If the community finds
itself unable to form consensus about some topic, it's better to
postpone any decision, or explore alternatives.


> And if they may, may they not have different opinions in the future than at 
> the time when they became a PMC member?


Of course they may. That's a normal consequence of learning, after all.


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Re: volunteer activity tracking

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Hello,

Am 21.11.19 um 14:42 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

> Or are members of the PMC not allowed to have different opinions when voting? 
> And if they may, may they not have different opinions in the future than at 
> the time when they became a PMC member?
> 

Normally we discuss to get a consensus. Crucial votes are out-of-favour.
This is the only way to keep the community together.

Kind regards
Michael




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RE: volunteer activity tracking

[Jörg Schmidt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Branko Čibej [mailto:br...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 2:16 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking


> I have not heard of a single instance in the history of the ASF where
> merit was bought -- either through donations or through salaried
> employees. I'm sure there have been attempts, we all know 
> what nonsense
> "smart" managers are capable of coming up with.

And I didn't(!!!) say anyone intended to buy "merit". I was talking about 
legally acquired merit.

Or are members of the PMC not allowed to have different opinions when voting? 
And if they may, may they not have different opinions in the future than at the 
time when they became a PMC member?



greetings,
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Re: volunteer activity tracking

[Branko Čibej]

On 21.11.2019 13:35, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
> Hello, 
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Hagar Delest [mailto:delest.ha...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:29 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking
>>
>> Le 20/11/2019 à 09:33, Jörg Schmidt a écrit :
>>> for example: At first glance, activity is activity, but I 
>> think there 
>>> is a certain difference between the activity of people who 
>> only work 
>>> in the project because they are paid for it by companies and people 
>>> who work in the project out of their own interest.
>> I don't understand the point. If he someone is paid to work on the 
>> project, at least he produces something. Why would it be 
>> considered less 
>> than the energy put by someone contributing of his own? What 
>> if the guy 
>> is paid AND he likes what he does?
> My opinion is that "merit" is something specific other than "important" (Your 
> wording was: "Why would it be considered less..."). "merit" is something very 
> personal.
>
> For me, this is personal because each of us, with skill, effort and perhaps 
> also some luck, can earn and donate any amount of money.  On the other hand 
> the day has only 24 hours for each of us and nobody can increase this time.
>
> And please, don't get me wrong:
> the support by companies or other donors, I don't think is unimportant or of 
> less value in the core, but "merit" is something which for me also contains a 
> pinch of what one could call "honor". (Perhaps not the best choice of words, 
> but hopefully understandable)



I have not heard of a single instance in the history of the ASF where
merit was bought -- either through donations or through salaried
employees. I'm sure there have been attempts, we all know what nonsense
"smart" managers are capable of coming up with.

If you have evidence that specific people have a secret agenda to
undermine or otherwise steer this project in ways that are not in the
best interests of the users, then by all means bring it up, either here,
or on the private@ list, or to the Board. Open discussion is definitely
encouraged at the ASF.

But please be careful if you do: saying "I have a feeling" is not evidence.

-- Brane

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RE: volunteer activity tracking

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Hagar Delest [mailto:delest.ha...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:29 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking
> 
> Le 20/11/2019 à 09:33, Jörg Schmidt a écrit :
> > for example: At first glance, activity is activity, but I 
> think there 
> > is a certain difference between the activity of people who 
> only work 
> > in the project because they are paid for it by companies and people 
> > who work in the project out of their own interest.
> I don't understand the point. If he someone is paid to work on the 
> project, at least he produces something. Why would it be 
> considered less 
> than the energy put by someone contributing of his own? What 
> if the guy 
> is paid AND he likes what he does?

My opinion is that "merit" is something specific other than "important" (Your 
wording was: "Why would it be considered less..."). "merit" is something very 
personal.

For me, this is personal because each of us, with skill, effort and perhaps 
also some luck, can earn and donate any amount of money.  On the other hand the 
day has only 24 hours for each of us and nobody can increase this time.

And please, don't get me wrong:
the support by companies or other donors, I don't think is unimportant or of 
less value in the core, but "merit" is something which for me also contains a 
pinch of what one could call "honor". (Perhaps not the best choice of words, 
but hopefully understandable)


> If there was any 3rd party influence, that would mean that at least 
> someone is trying to steer the project with some agenda. According to 
> the development level of the project, I'm not sure we should 
> be afraid 
> about that, or should we?

The "development level of the project" is not a criterion for this.


greetings,
Jörg







> 
> If there was any 3rd party influence, that would mean that at least 
> someone is trying to steer the project with some agenda. According to 
> the development level of the project, I'm not sure we should 
> be afraid 
> about that, or should we?
> 
> Let's be realistic and work on the problems instead of preventing 
> hypothetical wrong use of the instances.
> 
> Hagar (EN Forum moderator)
> Not a developer, just admiring those remaining on the project.
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RE: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 8:32 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back 
> in our PMC and developer circle)
> 
> hi everyone,
> [...]

I did not complain about the dominance of a company!


I don't want to say anything more about the rest because I consider it 
pointless. I feel that an open discussion is not desired, I have to take note 
of that.

These statements do not concern you Peter, but others. You, Peter, have tried 
to help me several times, my thanks for that.



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RE: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Jörg Schmidt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:51 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back 
> in our PMC and developer circle)

> At the Foundation we expect that everyone working on a 
> project are doing so as individuals and any merit attained is 
> as an individual. [1] In the initial formation of a project 
> at The ASF the original PMC and Committers is often 
> determined in part by those entities who are bringing the 
> donation to the Foundation. Incubation is about helping 
> project communities to work in the “Apache Way”. [2] 
> OpenOffice.org’s proposal was unique in that the Initial 
> Committer list was made open for all those who were 
> interested. I signed up as interested as did some other 
> members of the Apache POI PMC (we were interested in MSFT 
> document compatibility). I took it upon myself to help with 
> Infrastructure like the websites, confluence wikis, and domain names.

Absolutely clear for me and absolutely no problem for me!

I had already made explicit reference to the ASF rules, and of course the usual 
procedures also belong to them for me.
 
> > For me, and this may be my personal opinion, one must not 
> put good agreement above success - you have to find a balance 
> between both things.
> > 
> >> The influence of enterprises were drastic in the 
> >> moment they stopped supporting us.
> > 
> > Exactly, and why are no consequences drawn? The problem was 
> not that the company stopped its support, but that one 
> company was doing it at absolutely the wrong time and under 
> the wrong circumstances.
> 
> When IBM withdrew support it did not mean that PMC Members 
> who were employed by IBM stopped contributing. They stopped 
> as individuals slowly over time.
> 
> We had one PMC Chair who seriously started a discussion about 
> shutting down the project.

Thank you for this (imho) very important info. Not good that the community was 
not informed about it, but this info was apparently only known internally.



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Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Peter Kovacs]

hi everyone,


Since I joined the Project I have the feeling that people who still feel
that they belong to the openoffice.org community do not understand how
the ASF operates.

I have the feeling Jörgs issues belongs to the same category.

We do not have the Issue of a company that dominates OpenOffice. And I
say every company has a hard time to do so, because of the people on the
project.

Lets take a minute, to take a look on the case. In my opinion a
dominating company dominates by development power. They can push through
development decision

on the dev list using their developers. The PMC in the sense of Project
domination is not that important.

The PMC decides:

1) trademark enforcement of the market name OpenOffice.

2) decides how our funds are spend. (we have less then you think ;) and
these funds are a special case left overs from Oracle )

3) organize funds from the foundation if we need money for a topic.
(like the trademark is paid from the funds.

4) It decides who can become a committer and who is invited to the PMC.
(this is the most obvious power to lock down a project, and the most
obvious.)

5) media / press communication

6) company / privat person inquery / complain address.

I think except for 4) all point are not meaning full from a domination
perspective.


Now the Foundation as such is aware that companies can dominate. So the
Foundation has some mechanism to control and act.

1) the board. Once a quarter the report is filed and reviewed by the board.

2) the mentors. When a project becomes a podling in the incubator
mentors are supervising the project and help teaching the ASF way.

After the incubator ends, the mentors remain in the projects. Our
mentors are very silent because of the very experienced people we have.

3) ASF Members. Every ASF Member has full access to the private List.


I hope this helps and my view is complete.

So Jörg, you are fine with the ASF is our Steward and nothing more as
the Steward?

We had this issue with the paid resources, where the ASF will not pay
for developers because they only Steward the projects.

So we still have this topic on building our own community organization
which can fills such a role. But this is OT. If we want to discuss this
topic, please make a seperate topic.

Also for companies or recruiting. Just discuss it in an own topic.


All the Best

Peter

On 20.11.19 12:12, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>  
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 10:14 AM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back 
>> in our PMC and developer circle)
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Am 20.11.19 um 09:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>>> Hello Peter, 
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:50 AM
>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> Subject: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in 
>>>> our PMC and developer circle)
>>>>
>>>> Hello Jörg,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is still unclear why you want to track activity. Can you 
>>>> elaborate on
>>>> this point maybe?
>>> First let me say: I don't think it is necessary to find out 
>> in real time who is active at the moment, it would probably 
>> be enough to publish it once a month.
>>> Why do I want to know who is active?
>>> For decisions of the PMC the majority principle applies 
>> (imho). The majority, however, depends on the votes 
>> (respectively the opinions) of the people who are currently active.
>>>
>>> And in the long run: Has no one really thought about the 
>> principle that no one can be excluded from the PMC and that 
>> third parties can install majorities there?
>>> for example: At first glance, activity is activity, but I 
>> think there is a certain difference between the activity of 
>> people who only work in the project because they are paid for 
>> it by companies and people who work in the project out of 
>> their own interest.
>> I do not remember any case, in which a permanent inactive PMC member
>> "jumps out of the box" to influence a voting.
> I have not mentioned any names (elsewhere) because I do not want to turn 
> against people, because I don't hold them responsible for what companies have 
> done.
> On the other hand, why is it merit for people if they have only done their 
> paid job...
>
> For me, and this may be my personal opinion, one must not put good agreement 
> above success - you have to find a balance between both things.
>
>> The influe

Re: volunteer activity tracking

[Hagar Delest]

Le 20/11/2019 à 09:33, Jörg Schmidt a écrit :
for example: At first glance, activity is activity, but I think there 
is a certain difference between the activity of people who only work 
in the project because they are paid for it by companies and people 
who work in the project out of their own interest.
I don't understand the point. If he someone is paid to work on the 
project, at least he produces something. Why would it be considered less 
than the energy put by someone contributing of his own? What if the guy 
is paid AND he likes what he does?


If there was any 3rd party influence, that would mean that at least 
someone is trying to steer the project with some agenda. According to 
the development level of the project, I'm not sure we should be afraid 
about that, or should we?


Let's be realistic and work on the problems instead of preventing 
hypothetical wrong use of the instances.


Hagar (EN Forum moderator)
Not a developer, just admiring those remaining on the project.

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Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Dave Fisher]

> On Nov 20, 2019, at 3:12 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 10:14 AM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back 
>> in our PMC and developer circle)
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Am 20.11.19 um 09:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
>>> Hello Peter, 
>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:50 AM
>>>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>>> Subject: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in 
>>>> our PMC and developer circle)
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Jörg,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It is still unclear why you want to track activity. Can you 
>>>> elaborate on
>>>> this point maybe?
>>> 
>>> First let me say: I don't think it is necessary to find out 
>> in real time who is active at the moment, it would probably 
>> be enough to publish it once a month.
>>> 
>>> Why do I want to know who is active?
>>> For decisions of the PMC the majority principle applies 
>> (imho). The majority, however, depends on the votes 
>> (respectively the opinions) of the people who are currently active.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And in the long run: Has no one really thought about the 
>> principle that no one can be excluded from the PMC and that 
>> third parties can install majorities there?
>>> 
>>> for example: At first glance, activity is activity, but I 
>> think there is a certain difference between the activity of 
>> people who only work in the project because they are paid for 
>> it by companies and people who work in the project out of 
>> their own interest.
>>> 
> 
>> I do not remember any case, in which a permanent inactive PMC member
>> "jumps out of the box" to influence a voting.
> 
> I have not mentioned any names (elsewhere) because I do not want to turn 
> against people, because I don't hold them responsible for what companies have 
> done.
> On the other hand, why is it merit for people if they have only done their 
> paid job...

At the Foundation we expect that everyone working on a project are doing so as 
individuals and any merit attained is as an individual. [1] In the initial 
formation of a project at The ASF the original PMC and Committers is often 
determined in part by those entities who are bringing the donation to the 
Foundation. Incubation is about helping project communities to work in the 
“Apache Way”. [2] OpenOffice.org’s proposal was unique in that the Initial 
Committer list was made open for all those who were interested. I signed up as 
interested as did some other members of the Apache POI PMC (we were interested 
in MSFT document compatibility). I took it upon myself to help with 
Infrastructure like the websites, confluence wikis, and domain names.


> 
> For me, and this may be my personal opinion, one must not put good agreement 
> above success - you have to find a balance between both things.
> 
>> The influence of enterprises were drastic in the 
>> moment they stopped supporting us.
> 
> Exactly, and why are no consequences drawn? The problem was not that the 
> company stopped its support, but that one company was doing it at absolutely 
> the wrong time and under the wrong circumstances.

When IBM withdrew support it did not mean that PMC Members who were employed by 
IBM stopped contributing. They stopped as individuals slowly over time.

We had one PMC Chair who seriously started a discussion about shutting down the 
project. Yet, we still continue. All as volunteers - as far as we know.

> 
> Where was the PMC in this situation? Where was the attempt to influence? 
> Where was the will to discuss things openly with the community?

Personally I was very busy elsewhere. IMO there was a lot of shock and it took 
some time for the project to recover and continue producing releases.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Enough for today, because I feel that any attempt at critical discussion here 
> is only perceived as disturbing. 

Not necessarily. It would be a little easier if you started a separate thread 
;-)

Regards,
Dave

[1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#hats
[2] https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html
[3] 
https://community.apache.org/projectIndependence.html#apache-projects-are-managed-independently

> 
> 
> 
> greetings,
> Jörg
> 
> 
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RE: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Jörg Schmidt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dr. Michael Stehmann [mailto:anw...@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 10:14 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back 
> in our PMC and developer circle)
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Am 20.11.19 um 09:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> > Hello Peter, 
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:50 AM
> >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in 
> >> our PMC and developer circle)
> >>
> >> Hello Jörg,
> >>
> >>
> >> It is still unclear why you want to track activity. Can you 
> >> elaborate on
> >> this point maybe?
> > 
> > First let me say: I don't think it is necessary to find out 
> in real time who is active at the moment, it would probably 
> be enough to publish it once a month.
> > 
> > Why do I want to know who is active?
> > For decisions of the PMC the majority principle applies 
> (imho). The majority, however, depends on the votes 
> (respectively the opinions) of the people who are currently active.
> > 
> > 
> > And in the long run: Has no one really thought about the 
> principle that no one can be excluded from the PMC and that 
> third parties can install majorities there?
> > 
> > for example: At first glance, activity is activity, but I 
> think there is a certain difference between the activity of 
> people who only work in the project because they are paid for 
> it by companies and people who work in the project out of 
> their own interest.
> > 

> I do not remember any case, in which a permanent inactive PMC member
> "jumps out of the box" to influence a voting.

I have not mentioned any names (elsewhere) because I do not want to turn 
against people, because I don't hold them responsible for what companies have 
done.
On the other hand, why is it merit for people if they have only done their paid 
job...

For me, and this may be my personal opinion, one must not put good agreement 
above success - you have to find a balance between both things.

> The influence of enterprises were drastic in the 
> moment they stopped supporting us.

Exactly, and why are no consequences drawn? The problem was not that the 
company stopped its support, but that one company was doing it at absolutely 
the wrong time and under the wrong circumstances.

Where was the PMC in this situation? Where was the attempt to influence? Where 
was the will to discuss things openly with the community?




Enough for today, because I feel that any attempt at critical discussion here 
is only perceived as disturbing. 



greetings,
Jörg



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Re: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Dr. Michael Stehmann]

Hello,

Am 20.11.19 um 09:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
> Hello Peter, 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 7:50 AM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in 
>> our PMC and developer circle)
>>
>> Hello Jörg,
>>
>>
>> It is still unclear why you want to track activity. Can you 
>> elaborate on
>> this point maybe?
> 
> First let me say: I don't think it is necessary to find out in real time who 
> is active at the moment, it would probably be enough to publish it once a 
> month.
> 
> Why do I want to know who is active?
> For decisions of the PMC the majority principle applies (imho). The majority, 
> however, depends on the votes (respectively the opinions) of the people who 
> are currently active.
> 
> 
> And in the long run: Has no one really thought about the principle that no 
> one can be excluded from the PMC and that third parties can install 
> majorities there?
> 
> for example: At first glance, activity is activity, but I think there is a 
> certain difference between the activity of people who only work in the 
> project because they are paid for it by companies and people who work in the 
> project out of their own interest.
> 

IMO the best way to improve a system is to solve its practical problems.

I do not remember any case, in which a permanent inactive PMC member
"jumps out of the box" to influence a voting.

I do not see any PMC member, which tries to undercut AOO in
collaboration with others.

IMO the influence of third parties, esp. enterprises is in AOO more
negligible than it is in other Apache projects.

The influence of enterprises were drastic in the moment they stopped
supporting us. And unfortunately I do not know any enterprise, who is
willing to support us substantially in future. That is one of our actual
problems.

So IMO we should focus our energy and resources to solve the practical
problems we really have.

As an example:
Let us reflect, how we can transact the proposals of Patricia to recruit
new developers.

And another one:
Let us reflect, how we get the infrastructure we need to work well.

Kind regards
Michael





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volunteer activity tracking (was: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle)

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Jörg,


It is still unclear why you want to track activity. Can you elaborate on
this point maybe?


Cheers,

Peter


On 19.11.19 21:52, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
>  
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:w...@apache.org] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 8:24 PM
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Ariel is back in our PMC and developer circle
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 19, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Jörg Schmidt 
>>  wrote:
>>> Can you please explain to me what "back in our PMC" means?
>> Better wording would be “has reengaged in OpenOffice development.
> Thank you. That's very interesting.
>
> Is it at all clear to the PMC members that this was the background to my 
> proposal, which was strongly rejected some time ago?
>
>
> Your answer today makes one thing clear:
> there are PMC members who are currently actively involved in OpenOffice 
> development and those who are not.
> And my whole concern was: Where can I see who is currently active? 
>
> Maybe now it's easier to understand that it wasn't my intention to remove 
> non-active people from the PMC, but only to clearly mark who is currently 
> active.
>
>
> And please: it is not enough to look up who is committing code, because we 
> also have committers who work elsewhere.
>
>
> greetings,
> Jörg
>
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Re: Technical Writing Volunteer

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 12/23/2018 11:12 PM, de...@mccluretechnicalwriting.com wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am just starting out as a technical writer, but I would like to help if 
> possible. Do you have anything I could help with?
> 
> Debra McClure
> McClure Technical Writing
> http://www.mccluretechnicalwriting.com
> 512.961.2852
> 
One area that could definitely need help is The Version 4.x User Guide
being done on our mwiki. For more information Please see the the
Documentation Orientation Module at
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-doc.html.
 Welcome to Apache OpenOffice and look forward to working with you.

Regards
Keith N. McKenna




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Technical Writing Volunteer

[debra]

Hello,

I am just starting out as a technical writer, but I would like to help if 
possible. Do you have anything I could help with?

Debra McClure
McClure Technical Writing
http://www.mccluretechnicalwriting.com
512.961.2852

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What can be done when interested in Quality Assurance. (was: QA Volunteer)

[Peter Kovacs]

Welcome Sharmistha,

I have noted following Tasks to do, from my own thoughts and what I am 
aware that had been called.


1) Bugzilla

1.1) uncomirmed Bug reports for evaluation.

Not sure if the List is accessible to anyone, but you can try this link.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed_id=236868=unconfirmed

1.2) recheck old Bugzilla reports if they still apply.

Dont know if someone has considered this, but we have a lot of confirmed 
Bugs. I am not sure if they are all really open.


2)We are still in the preparation of a new Maintenance Release 4.1.6. 
First builds are already done, so you could have a look and make 
familiar with testing OpenOffice.


There will be a call for testing.

2.1) The same is true for 4.2.0, but there some issues have to be fixed 
first before we can give this to testers. But then you are already aware 
that something is coming in the next month.


3)We have Test cases on the Wiki. I do not know in what completeness or 
shape they are. Maybe someone else can elaborate?


4) call for testing for the Icons on Windows (or ist this tested 
successfully? - I am unsure at the moment.)



(@ All) Anything more what can be done as interest QA?


All the Best

Peter


On 9/6/18 5:20 AM, sharmistha guha wrote:

Hi,

I am a QA engineer and would like to contribute to Apache projects. I have
4 years of QA experience.

Please let me know how I can be of help to Apache projects.

Thanks
Sharmistha Guha.


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From: Peter Kovacs 
Date: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: QA Volunteer
To: 


Welcome Sharmistha,

I am sorry am not sure if anyone is monitoring the QA List and we had some
summertime. Most QA Reqeust these days are done via the dev mailing list.
Maybe you want to introduce there.


On 2018/08/15 05:03:57, sharmistha guha  wrote:

Hi,

I am a QA engineer and would like to contribute to Apache projects. I have
4 years of QA experience.

Please let me know how I can be of help to Apache projects.

Thanks
Sharmistha


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QA Volunteer

[sharmistha guha]

Hi,

I am a QA engineer and would like to contribute to Apache projects. I have
4 years of QA experience.

Please let me know how I can be of help to Apache projects.

Thanks
Sharmistha Guha.


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From: Peter Kovacs 
Date: Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: QA Volunteer
To: 


Welcome Sharmistha,

I am sorry am not sure if anyone is monitoring the QA List and we had some
summertime. Most QA Reqeust these days are done via the dev mailing list.
Maybe you want to introduce there.


On 2018/08/15 05:03:57, sharmistha guha  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a QA engineer and would like to contribute to Apache projects. I have
> 4 years of QA experience.
>
> Please let me know how I can be of help to Apache projects.
>
> Thanks
> Sharmistha
>

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Re: Dev volunteer

[FR web forum]

Welcome on board
You will not need to be registered if you want to help fix bugs.
A good place to start is our page:
https://openoffice.apache.org/developer-faqs.html
If you are interested, I have a bugs list waiting :-)

- Mail original -
> De: "Alexander Demidenko" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Mercredi 22 Août 2018 13:55:28
> Objet: Dev volunteer
> 
> Good day, all.
> 
> My name is Alexander Demidenko.
> 
> I'm software engineer focused on C++/Qt stack. And I'd like to help
> with
> development of Open Office.
> 
> Requested  username: xseven
> 
> Cheers,
> Alexander
> 

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Re: Dev volunteer.

[FR web forum]

Welcome on board
You will not need to be registered if you want to help fix bugs.
A good place to start is our page:
https://openoffice.apache.org/developer-faqs.html
If you are interested, I have a bugs list waiting :-)

- Mail original -
> De: "Dean Van Greunen" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Mercredi 22 Août 2018 10:40:19
> Objet: Dev volunteer.
> 
> Hi
> I'm Dean Van Greunen a full stack software engineer.
> 
> I would like to help on the development side of OpenOffice.
> 
> Requested Username: deanvg9000
> 
> Thank you.
> PS Dean.
> 

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Dev volunteer

[Alexander Demidenko]

Good day, all.

My name is Alexander Demidenko.

I'm software engineer focused on C++/Qt stack. And I'd like to help with
development of Open Office.

Requested  username: xseven

Cheers,
Alexander

Dev volunteer.

[Dean Van Greunen]

Hi
I'm Dean Van Greunen a full stack software engineer.

I would like to help on the development side of OpenOffice.

Requested Username: deanvg9000

Thank you.
PS Dean.

Volunteer wanted: ApacheCon slide template

[Rich Bowen]

In past years, members of the OpenOffice community have stepped up to 
provide an ApacheCon slide template. Is there anyone willing to do that 
this year?


Event details here: https://apachecon.com/acna18

Past year templates: http://na11.apachecon.com/pages/speaker_resources

--Rich

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Re: Volunteer - Open Office - Technical Writing / Documentation

[Keith N. McKenna]

On 4/9/2018 11:40 AM, Brian Lynch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if you all still needed assistance with any of the
> technical writing / documentation for the OpenOffice project?
> 
> Best,
> Brian
> 
Brian;

We are in desperate need of help in the Technical Writing, Documentation
space. The User Guide effort has been stalled for quite some time do to
the lack of expertise in that area.

If you are interested please subscribe to and introduce yourself at the
documentation mailing list. To subscribe send a blank e-mail to
mailto:doc-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org and reply to the confirmation
e-mail you will receive. Once you are subscribed you can send
correspondence to mailto:d...@openoffice.apache.org.

You should also consider subscribing to the development list (this list)
also.

I look forward to speaking further with you on the documentation list.

Regards
Keith N. McKenna


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Volunteer - Open Office - Technical Writing / Documentation

[Brian Lynch]

Hi,

I was wondering if you all still needed assistance with any of the
technical writing / documentation for the OpenOffice project?

Best,
Brian

Fresh Volunteer for Converting arrays to containers conversion as a start.

[Peter kovacs]

Hi Patricia

I have a volunteer from recruitment list that would like to become involved in 
our lovely project. He has C++ and java experience.

He is currently building Open Office, and wanted to do bugfixig and code 
improvements for starters.

I told him as a possible first task of your idea for the array conversion. He 
showed interest as to do this for a start.

Do you have some time to help him getting started with this topic? That would 
be super cool!

All te best
Peter

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Re: Possible new Volunteer

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 12/02/2018 Peter Kovacs wrote:

Steve here is volunteering to help. See below.
Can someone guide him further?


Sure. For documentation see here: https://s.apache.org/bCco - help 
welcome, and refer to Keith's mail there for some pointers.



Also I am not sure about what the exact situation is on donations. What is the 
current situation here?


See https://www.openoffice.org/donations.html - donations welcome, and 
they go to the Apache Software Foundation, the main expenditure being on 
the infrastructure that OpenOffice shares with the other ASF projects.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Possible new Volunteer (was:Fwd: Re: I was told you guys don't often visit the forums and I still wanted to thank the developers)

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi all,

Steve here is volunteering to help. See below.
Can someone guide him further?

Also I am not sure about what the exact situation is on donations. What is the 
current situation here?

All the best
peter


 Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
Von: Steve <stev...@zoho.com>
Gesendet: 12. Februar 2018 06:05:29 MEZ
An: Peter Kovacs <peter.kov...@posteo.de>
Betreff: Re: I was told you guys don't often visit the forums and I still 
wanted to thank the developers

Hi Peter. Thanks for reaching out.  I definitely would like to see OpenOffice 
thrive.  I will try to help with documentation and reporting bugs/usability 
issues; I think this is really where you guys can have a big edge on 
LibreOffice as they seem fixated on chasing Microsoft instead of usability.   
Also, maybe I can donate some money. Is it possible to do this by check? 


> On Jan 25, 2018, at 12:09 AM, Peter Kovacs <peter.kov...@posteo.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> We are indeed a conservative Project. We want to ship a basic Office that you 
> as a user extend to your needs by using add-ons.
> Very similar to the idea Firefox uses.
> Despite this vision, openoffice is still a complex tool.
> 
> However we are also today a complete volunteer project. I like to ask if you 
> would consider to become involved.
> All that we do can be learned and not all project development that is needed 
> to be done has the required skill set of a programmer.
> We could also use people that do:
> User support
> Testing
> Documentation
> Translation
> 
> You need to bring following traits that are reqired:
> Openness, respect,  courage to the project. If you can add determination and 
> initiative that would be super cool. And sometimes patience is required.
> 
> What do you say?
> 
> Am 25. Januar 2018 03:48:59 MEZ schrieb Steve <stev...@zoho.com>:
>> <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/posting.php?mode=edit=106=437127>
>> <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/report.php?f=106=437127>
>> <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/posting.php?mode=quote=106=437127>
>> Thank you and CONGRATULATIONS!!
>> <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=106=92106=059b9ca72612edeb63ff1d201a6d9fad#p437127>
>> <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?p=437127#p437127>by
>> tanstaaf1
>> <https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile=95811>
>> » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:27 pm
>> 
>> I've just come back to Open Office after a multi-year fling with
>> LibreOffice. The arc of my document application history is basically
>> Wordstar/Lotus->MSOffice->OO->LIbre ... and now, I think, back to OO.
>> 
>> What brought me back and what have I noticed and what would I like your
>> developers/steering committee to keep in mind? Libre has, for me, gone
>> off the deep end in gratuitous feature creep and senselessly increasing
>> user interface complexity. Specifically? I was unable to reformat and
>> properly print text I had copied and pasted in; I was unable to find
>> what were once-upon-a-time pretty simple commands to see text
>> formatting and change it; I was unable to use the help system to find
>> help; I was unable to create an account on their website in a
>> reasonable period of time to even ask for help.
>> 
>> And it occurred to me -- after several hours of this roundabout with no
>> progress being made toward a really simple thing -- that I might take
>> another look at OpenOffice. And what I found was: OO installed much
>> more quickly and easily than recent LO updates; OO opened to a MUCH
>> simpler user interface; IN OO MY FORMATTING PROBLEM WENT AWAY!   And I
>> decided to post a thank you to the OO community and found how much
>> simpler it was to create an account and post my comment here! Your
>> software JUST WORKS.
>> 
>> My suggestion to the OO developers is to adopt as a motto something
>> Einstein supposedly said: "A scientific theory should be as simple as
>> possible, but no simpler.” Now, in this case we are talking software,
>> but I think this quote still is relevant.  Know the needs of your
>> target market and stop trying to add extra “features” that few people
>> in the key demographic actually value.
>> 
>> Lately it seems I'm living in an increasingly nightmarish dystopia.
>> With software this is especially the case.   Further, I suspect
>> spreading software complexity is driving most of the cancerous spread
>> of complexity and bugs into the bigger world. Remember the ORIGINAL
>> Mac? Remember how you could just sit down and click with a mouse and
>> pretty much figure out h

Re: Volunteer for building OpenOffice from source

[Andrea Pescetti]

On 03/01/2018 Ash Blade wrote:

I saw that you are looking for help with building Open Office from source and I 
think my current set of skills could be put to good use with this task.


Welcome, Ash! Yes, we can surely put your skills to good use here.

With your current experience I think you can just go ahead and try a 
local build on Linux; the process is challenging, or at least 
nonstandard, in all environments, but Linux tends to be smoother.


Start with a trunk checkout (your svn skills "from the past" will 
actually help here!):


$ svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk openoffice

then go ahead following
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
and tell us when you have any doubts.

What Linux distribution are you using?
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step
has some hints to help building on many distributions, and we'd surely 
appreciate if you can collect some notes while you build so that you can 
add them to the wiki (if you need an account, just ask here).


I'm CCing you explicitly in this first answer, but in case you are not 
subscribed please do so; or read the archives at 
https://lists.apache.org/list.html?dev@openoffice.apache.org


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Volunteer for building OpenOffice from source

[Ash Blade]

Hi

I saw that you are looking for help with building Open Office from source and I 
think my current set of skills could be put to good use with this task. 
I have been working as Build admin/DevOps for the past 7 years, mostly on 
Windows envs but recently (about 1 year now) I have switched to Linux. During 
this period I have worked on tools and scripts used to automate the build 
process and also by developers in their day to day job. Some of the languages 
I’ve worked with are C++, C#, a bit of Python and a bit of Perl. I have written 
scripts mostly in batch (as I said, most of my experience was acquired on 
Windows envs) but now I started working more in bash. When it comes to VCS, I 
have worked mostly with Mercurial and Gitlab, but I am also familiar with SVN 
and CVS (from way back in the days). 
I like working on automation and have a keen eye for spotting patterns and 
doing detective work. I am not a developer when it comes to writing complex 
code, but even so, given a task, I don’t ever back away from the challenge.
If you are interested in collaborating let me know and we can discuss more.

Best regards

Ash

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: Writing Volunteer

[Marcus]

Am 11/08/2016 05:01 PM, schrieb Peter Anton:

I am an experienced software developer (old school!) and I am interested in 
becoming a technical writer.

I would love to help with any writing tasks for your project.

I am very good at English, and I understand the SDLC.
I have written many User Guides and IT Procedures too.

I am also trying to volunteer to write API documentation and Readme files for 
other open source software projects.

I am becoming more and more familiar with HTML/CSS/Javascript and JQuery, 
having been on a few courses.
Please let me know how I can contribute.


Peter, welcome to the project.

@Keith:
Maybe you can take over this request as it's about technical writing. 
Eventually there is a topic that you both can work on.


Marcus

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Re: Writing Volunteer

[Peter Kovacs]

Hello Peter

Have you checked out http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-doc.html
?

All the best
:) Peter

Peter Anton <tech@gmail.com> schrieb am Di., 8. Nov. 2016, 19:54:

> Hi,
> I am an experienced software developer (old school!) and I am interested
> in becoming a technical writer.
>
> I would love to help with any writing tasks for your project.
>
> I am very good at English, and I understand the SDLC.
> I have written many User Guides and IT Procedures too.
>
> I am also trying to volunteer to write API documentation and Readme files
> for other open source software projects.
>
> I am becoming more and more familiar with HTML/CSS/Javascript and JQuery,
> having been on a few courses.
> Please let me know how I can contribute.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
> 07839 201 848
>
>
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Writing Volunteer

[Peter Anton]

Hi,
I am an experienced software developer (old school!) and I am interested in 
becoming a technical writer.

I would love to help with any writing tasks for your project.

I am very good at English, and I understand the SDLC. 
I have written many User Guides and IT Procedures too.

I am also trying to volunteer to write API documentation and Readme files for 
other open source software projects.

I am becoming more and more familiar with HTML/CSS/Javascript and JQuery, 
having been on a few courses.
Please let me know how I can contribute.

Regards,
Peter
07839 201 848

New Dev Volunteer

[Naeem Ansari]

Hi,

My self Naeem Ansari from India.
I'm completed Bachelor Degree in Computer (BE.Comp)  since 2011.
I have 4+ year of experience in various languages like java, php, c++, c#,
html5,  mssql, mysql, bootstrap, ajax, angularjs.
I have developed various web base application and standalone application.

please consider my application, i'm eager to development with you.

Regards,

Naeem Ansari
+91 9766531226

Fwd: New volunteer

[Thomas Seeley]

Hello All,

I have been referred to you to help with a startup issue for newbie
volunteers. The site literature makes reference to resources at a website
called googlecode.com, which no longer exists. Please read the email below
for further details. Do you know of a replacement website for googlecode.com
?

Thomas Seeley

-- Forwarded message --
From: Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org>
Date: Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: New volunteer
To: Thomas Seeley <thomas.e.see...@gmail.com>


I do seem to have apt-get installed, so the link probably worked when I was
setting up. Could you report this to the dev@openoffice.apache.org list?
Someone else may already know where to find it.

Meanwhile, please proceed using the alternative method described just below
the apt-get line, rerun setup.exe and select the listed packages.


On 9/6/2016 11:22 AM, Thomas Seeley wrote:

> Hi Patricia,
> I am having some difficulty with the startup info. One of the necessary
> websites (googlecode.com) no longer exists. For an example of this, see:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guid
> e_AOO/Step_by_step
> ,
> "wget http://apt-cyg.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/apt-cyg;
> Do you know whether there is an equivalent website to substitute for
> googlecode.com?
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote:
>
> Forgot to copy you on this.
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: New volunteer
>> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 10:59:53 -0700
>> From: Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org>
>> Reply-To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>> Welcome aboard!
>>
>> The first step is to build AOO on at least one computer. For windows, I
>> found the step-by-step guide at https://wiki.openoffice.org/wi
>> ki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step most useful.
>>
>> On 9/5/2016 8:42 AM, Thomas Seeley wrote:
>>
>> Hello All!
>>>
>>> My name is Thomas Seeley. I want to volunteer with OpenOffice to better
>>> familiarize myself with the framework of open source software. This will
>>> also give my something to do while I am convalescing.
>>>
>>> My background in programming began with building control systems and
>>> embedded control systems. In the meantime I became a tenured professor of
>>> Computer Science; I've taught many programming languages including C,
>>> C++,
>>> and SQL.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Thomas E. Seeley, PE
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
>


-- 
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Re: New volunteer

[Patricia Shanahan]

Welcome aboard!

The first step is to build AOO on at least one computer. For windows, I 
found the step-by-step guide at 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step 
most useful.


On 9/5/2016 8:42 AM, Thomas Seeley wrote:

Hello All!

My name is Thomas Seeley. I want to volunteer with OpenOffice to better
familiarize myself with the framework of open source software. This will
also give my something to do while I am convalescing.

My background in programming began with building control systems and
embedded control systems. In the meantime I became a tenured professor of
Computer Science; I've taught many programming languages including C, C++,
and SQL.

Regards,

Thomas E. Seeley, PE



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New volunteer

[Thomas Seeley]

Hello All!

My name is Thomas Seeley. I want to volunteer with OpenOffice to better
familiarize myself with the framework of open source software. This will
also give my something to do while I am convalescing.

My background in programming began with building control systems and
embedded control systems. In the meantime I became a tenured professor of
Computer Science; I've taught many programming languages including C, C++,
and SQL.

Regards,

Thomas E. Seeley, PE

Volunteer Introduction - Theodore Matula

[Buddy Matula]

Hello,

My name is Theodore Matula and I am a new volunteer in QA for the Open
Office Project. I am from Irvine, California and am interested in gaining
QA and testing experience. Thank you

Sincerely,
Theodore Matula

Re: New Volunteer

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi Chelsey

Sounds good. If you need anything just shout. I am more involved with
development.

Damjan

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Chelsey Foster <chelynnfos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Damjan,
>
> I would like to get a good feel for the program itself first. I was
> thinking of familiarizing myself with the software by looking through bug
> reports and/or user suggestions and trying to identify the issue for myself
> and report any additional bugs I find along the way (if I in fact find
> any). Do you think that is a good plan?
>
> Best,
>
> Chelsey
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <dam...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chelsey
>>
>> Welcome to Apache OpenOffice. You are most welcome to help. Any idea
>> of what you'd like to contribute?
>>
>> Feel free to email this list any time if you need any further help.
>>
>> Regards
>> Damjan
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Chelsey Foster <chelynnfos...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I would just like to introduce myself as a new volunteer. My name is
>> > Chelsey and I a graduate from the University of Victoria and am very
>> > interested in open source development! I hope I can be of some help!
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Chelsey Foster
>>
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Re: New Volunteer

[Chelsey Foster]

Hi Damjan,

I would like to get a good feel for the program itself first. I was
thinking of familiarizing myself with the software by looking through bug
reports and/or user suggestions and trying to identify the issue for myself
and report any additional bugs I find along the way (if I in fact find
any). Do you think that is a good plan?

Best,

Chelsey



On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Damjan Jovanovic <dam...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Chelsey
>
> Welcome to Apache OpenOffice. You are most welcome to help. Any idea
> of what you'd like to contribute?
>
> Feel free to email this list any time if you need any further help.
>
> Regards
> Damjan
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Chelsey Foster <chelynnfos...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would just like to introduce myself as a new volunteer. My name is
> > Chelsey and I a graduate from the University of Victoria and am very
> > interested in open source development! I hope I can be of some help!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Chelsey Foster
>
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Re: New Volunteer

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi Chelsey

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice. You are most welcome to help. Any idea
of what you'd like to contribute?

Feel free to email this list any time if you need any further help.

Regards
Damjan


On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Chelsey Foster <chelynnfos...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would just like to introduce myself as a new volunteer. My name is
> Chelsey and I a graduate from the University of Victoria and am very
> interested in open source development! I hope I can be of some help!
>
> Best,
>
> Chelsey Foster

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New Volunteer

[Chelsey Foster]

Hi,

I would just like to introduce myself as a new volunteer. My name is
Chelsey and I a graduate from the University of Victoria and am very
interested in open source development! I hope I can be of some help!

Best,

Chelsey Foster

Re: new volunteer J.Masa

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi Jakub

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice. We appreciate all contributions.

You should probably start by checking the source code out of SVN and
getting it to compile:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

There is some documentation on how Calc works on
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Calc

Feel free to post any questions to this list.

All the best
Damjan

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Jakub Máša  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My name is bc. Jakub Máša and I would like to contribute into this project.
>
> I'm a student at CTU (4th year) and I need to prove my skills by
> contributing to big open source project. I also work for 3 years in
> middle-size commercial company as .Net and C++ developer, therefore I am
> used to work within a small team. Big open source community is something
> new to me, tho.
>
> My goal is to implement scroll lock function like in Excel. Here are the
> bugzilla links for the tickets:
>
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46200
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=7179
>
> Thanks for any advice/information
>
> Jakub Máša
>
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new volunteer J.Masa

[Jakub Máša]

Hello,

My name is bc. Jakub Máša and I would like to contribute into this project.

I'm a student at CTU (4th year) and I need to prove my skills by
contributing to big open source project. I also work for 3 years in
middle-size commercial company as .Net and C++ developer, therefore I am
used to work within a small team. Big open source community is something
new to me, tho.

My goal is to implement scroll lock function like in Excel. Here are the
bugzilla links for the tickets:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46200
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=7179

Thanks for any advice/information

Jakub Máša

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RE: apache testing volunteer

[Dennis E. Hamilton]

Yes,

Rashida can subscribe to qa@, issues@, and create an account on the bugzilla at 
<https://bz.apache.org/ooo/>.

It is valuable to have external testing for confirmation and narrowing in, with 
the reporter and others, on the actual issue condition.  In this case it will 
also be important to become familiar with the product.

When we have a prospective release candidate, there can be testing against a 
new build to see if a reproducible failure has been cured or not, and there are 
no obvious regressions.

Kay Schenk can point to materials on QA activities.  (We could use help 
updating and expanding these too, especially on how we work through the 
bugzilla stages and are encouraging of user participation.)

 - Dennis 

> -Original Message-
> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:p...@acm.org]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 17:57
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: apache testing volunteer
> 
> Would it make sense to get Rashida working on characterizing and
> classifying some of the Bugzilla issues, including constructing
> additional tests around the reported bugs? Should Rashida subscribe to
> the qa mailing list?
> 
> Patricia
> 
> On 3/11/2016 9:20 AM, rashida m wrote:
> > hi
> >
> >
> > I would like to join the team to test projects.
> >
> > I work as a freelance tester. I came across this site and would like
> to volunteer for testing.
> >
> > I have tested client server as well as web based applications.
> >
> > I have done backend tetsing using oracle and DB2 to retrieve data fom
> the database.
> >
> > I have done smoke testing,functional testing, tested web services ,
> usability tests,performance and stress  tests etc.
> >
> >
> > Kindly send me projects for testing.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rashida
> >
> 
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Re: apache testing volunteer

[Patricia Shanahan]

Would it make sense to get Rashida working on characterizing and 
classifying some of the Bugzilla issues, including constructing 
additional tests around the reported bugs? Should Rashida subscribe to 
the qa mailing list?


Patricia

On 3/11/2016 9:20 AM, rashida m wrote:

hi


I would like to join the team to test projects.

I work as a freelance tester. I came across this site and would like to 
volunteer for testing.

I have tested client server as well as web based applications.

I have done backend tetsing using oracle and DB2 to retrieve data fom the 
database.

I have done smoke testing,functional testing, tested web services , usability 
tests,performance and stress  tests etc.


Kindly send me projects for testing.


Thanks

Rashida



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apache testing volunteer

[rashida m]

hi


I would like to join the team to test projects.

I work as a freelance tester. I came across this site and would like to 
volunteer for testing.

I have tested client server as well as web based applications.

I have done backend tetsing using oracle and DB2 to retrieve data fom the 
database.

I have done smoke testing,functional testing, tested web services , usability 
tests,performance and stress  tests etc.


Kindly send me projects for testing.


Thanks

Rashida

Re: New volunteer

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi Nolan

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice! We appreciate the offer and you are
welcome to help with development.

What is your previous experience? Do you need any help getting started?

Thank you
Damjan


On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Nolan  wrote:
> Hi I am Nolan i'm from NC and I want to help code!
>

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New volunteer

[Nolan]

Hi I am Nolan i'm from NC and I want to help code!

Re: New Dev Volunteer

[Mugdha Mohapatra]

Thank you so much for your help! I'm using Linux(Ubuntu 15.04).
I'm currently building the source code. I installed subversion as per
the instructions given in the file and the make check is showning
success, but when I type the command - svn --version, it shows
subversion not installed. I'm not able to figure out what is wrong.

I'll check all the links you have mentioned. Sorry but right now I
have no clue about my choice in bugs or features. I'll let you know
soon though.

On 08-Jan-2016, at 23:10, Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> Hi Mugdha
>
> Welcome to Apache OpenOffice! It's wonderful of you to want to contribute.
> Your C and C++ skills would be valuable here.
>
> If you wish to get started with development, you should probably first
> check out the source code and get it to compile (what platform are you on?):
> http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO
>
> and here's some helpful development links:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html.
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Hacking
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Source_code_directories
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Architecture/Process_Flow
>
> Do you have any idea of what bugs you'd like to fix or features you'd like
> to add?
>
> All the best, and please feel free to contact me with any questions.
>
> Regards
> Damjan
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Mugdha Mohapatra <
> mohapatramugdh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>   I'm Mugdha. I'm from India, doing BE(Hons.) in Computer Science from
>> Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani University. I really want
>> to contribute to this open source project. I know the basics in C and C++
>> language.  Any help would to get me started would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Regards
>> Mugdha Mohapatra.
>>

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New Dev Volunteer

[Mugdha Mohapatra]

Hello!
   I'm Mugdha. I'm from India, doing BE(Hons.) in Computer Science from
Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani University. I really want
to contribute to this open source project. I know the basics in C and C++
language.  Any help would to get me started would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Regards
Mugdha Mohapatra.

Re: New Dev Volunteer

[Damjan Jovanovic]

Hi Mugdha

Welcome to Apache OpenOffice! It's wonderful of you to want to contribute.
Your C and C++ skills would be valuable here.

If you wish to get started with development, you should probably first
check out the source code and get it to compile (what platform are you on?):
http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO

and here's some helpful development links:
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html.
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Hacking
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Source_code_directories
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Architecture/Process_Flow

Do you have any idea of what bugs you'd like to fix or features you'd like
to add?

All the best, and please feel free to contact me with any questions.

Regards
Damjan


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Mugdha Mohapatra <
mohapatramugdh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
>I'm Mugdha. I'm from India, doing BE(Hons.) in Computer Science from
> Birla Institute of Technology and Science, Pilani University. I really want
> to contribute to this open source project. I know the basics in C and C++
> language.  Any help would to get me started would be appreciated.
>
> Thank you,
> Regards
> Mugdha Mohapatra.
>

Re: Finished Fourth Volunteer Orientation Module

[Kay Schenk]

On 01/02/2016 12:02 PM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> Kay,
> 
> My main interests are C++ development and user support.
> I added an entry to the Directory of Volunteers on the wiki.  That
> has my full list of skills.
> 
> I already signed up for the user support forum.
> I also had a Bugzilla account using another e-mail address, but it's
> not letting me log in for some reason...

Your interests and skills are perfect for this project. Thanks for
adding your information to the volunteer page.

Can you please forward the email address you used for your BZ
account -- to me personally if you desire -- so we can troubleshoot
this. You will definitely need access to BZ to work on bugs.

> 
> On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com
> <mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 12/20/2015 11:54 AM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I know it's been a while since I started, but I finished the
> fourth
> > volunteer orientation module.
> > BTW, how much is IRC used in this project?
> >
> 
> Hi again Lilith --
> 
> Don't worry about the time it took you to get through the modules.
> We're just happy to hear from you.  :) You might need to remind us
> what your interests are again, though.
> 
> RE IRC. We don't really use this. We communicate exclusively through
> our mailing lists in more cases. So, you will need to subscribe to
> one or more depending on your interests.
> (Please see the mailing list page:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html)
> 
> The exception to this is if you're interested in helping users
> through the Forum, in which case you will need to apply for a Forum
> account -- https://forum.openoffice.org/.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> MzK
> 
> “I appreciate failure. Failure means that an
>  attempt was made,  and a lesson can be learned.
>  As long as we’re alive after the effort,
>  there is a chance for success the next time around.”
> -- George Tekai, "Oh Myyy!"
> 
> 

-- 

MzK

"Though no one can go back and make a brand new start,
 anyone can start from now and make a brand new ending."
-- Carl Bard

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Re: Finished Fourth Volunteer Orientation Module

[Lalith Ramesh]

Kay,

My main interests are C++ development and user support.
I added an entry to the Directory of Volunteers on the wiki.  That has my
full list of skills.

I already signed up for the user support forum.
I also had a Bugzilla account using another e-mail address, but it's not
letting me log in for some reason...

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 12/20/2015 11:54 AM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I know it's been a while since I started, but I finished the fourth
> > volunteer orientation module.
> > BTW, how much is IRC used in this project?
> >
>
> Hi again Lilith --
>
> Don't worry about the time it took you to get through the modules.
> We're just happy to hear from you.  :) You might need to remind us
> what your interests are again, though.
>
> RE IRC. We don't really use this. We communicate exclusively through
> our mailing lists in more cases. So, you will need to subscribe to
> one or more depending on your interests.
> (Please see the mailing list page:
> http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html)
>
> The exception to this is if you're interested in helping users
> through the Forum, in which case you will need to apply for a Forum
> account -- https://forum.openoffice.org/.
>
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> “I appreciate failure. Failure means that an
>  attempt was made,  and a lesson can be learned.
>  As long as we’re alive after the effort,
>  there is a chance for success the next time around.”
> -- George Tekai, "Oh Myyy!"
>
>

Re: Finished Fourth Volunteer Orientation Module

[Kay Schenk]

On 12/20/2015 11:54 AM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I know it's been a while since I started, but I finished the fourth
> volunteer orientation module.
> BTW, how much is IRC used in this project?
> 

Hi again Lilith --

Don't worry about the time it took you to get through the modules.
We're just happy to hear from you.  :) You might need to remind us
what your interests are again, though.

RE IRC. We don't really use this. We communicate exclusively through
our mailing lists in more cases. So, you will need to subscribe to
one or more depending on your interests.
(Please see the mailing list page:
http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html)

The exception to this is if you're interested in helping users
through the Forum, in which case you will need to apply for a Forum
account -- https://forum.openoffice.org/.


-- 

MzK

“I appreciate failure. Failure means that an
 attempt was made,  and a lesson can be learned.
 As long as we’re alive after the effort,
 there is a chance for success the next time around.”
-- George Tekai, "Oh Myyy!"


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Finished Fourth Volunteer Orientation Module

[Lalith Ramesh]

Hello,

I know it's been a while since I started, but I finished the fourth
volunteer orientation module.
BTW, how much is IRC used in this project?

Hi, i would like to help and be an volunteer

[Daniel Fernando Zamadei]

Hi, my name is Daniel Fernando Zamadei, I am a brazilian IT student and i would 
like to make my studies more interesting using what i am learning with 
something cool and usefull, helping and being an volunteer in open source 
programs.Now a days, I know C, and a just a little of Front-End.
 

New Volunteer - Dolores Zurdo

[Dolores Zurdo Consuegra]

Hello everybody.

I'm Dolores Zurdo, and i joined this morning to the community. I'm Spanish,
but now I live in Austria. I'm Industrial Engineer.

I've been working in Quality Assurance but not yet for testing... so my
experience in this field is null, but only for the moment :-). Currently
I'm also improving my programming knowledge (for the moment with Python),
my English and my German...

I'm a positive and proactive person. In the Quality sector i learnt, that
nothing is perfect, so there is always a possibility to improve it... so
let's do it  :) I am very motivated to collaborate, learn and then continue
collaborating more efficiently :) . I have been reading information and
blogs... but it is time for me to start with real problems :). So now I
only have one question: what can I do to help you? :). For the moment I'm
reading "INTRODUCTION TO QA" form your website.

Thanks,
Dolores Zurdo.

Re: New Volunteer - Dolores Zurdo

[JZA]

Hola dolores.

I am a long time contributor to OpenOffice community. I am glad you already
took steps to get in the QA project. We have just released our latest
version of AOO.

At the moment most of the QA job is the ongoing validation of bugs on our
bugzilla database, once they are approved, sending them to the developers
or testing the patches yourself should be the next stage of QA testing.

Please remember we have a QA mailing list for related jobs of those sort at
q...@openoffice.apache.org

Buena suerte.


On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:17 AM, Dolores Zurdo Consuegra <
dolores.zurdo.consue...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everybody.
>
> I'm Dolores Zurdo, and i joined this morning to the community. I'm Spanish,
> but now I live in Austria. I'm Industrial Engineer.
>
> I've been working in Quality Assurance but not yet for testing... so my
> experience in this field is null, but only for the moment :-). Currently
> I'm also improving my programming knowledge (for the moment with Python),
> my English and my German...
>
> I'm a positive and proactive person. In the Quality sector i learnt, that
> nothing is perfect, so there is always a possibility to improve it... so
> let's do it  :) I am very motivated to collaborate, learn and then continue
> collaborating more efficiently :) . I have been reading information and
> blogs... but it is time for me to start with real problems :). So now I
> only have one question: what can I do to help you? :). For the moment I'm
> reading "INTRODUCTION TO QA" form your website.
>
> Thanks,
> Dolores Zurdo.
>



-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
9060 55AB FFD2 2F02 0E1A  3409 599C 14FC 9450 D3CF

new volunteer

[Hemu Hemendra]

haii apache open office team,

This hemendra i'm from Andhra Pradesh, India. I completed my B.tech in
Computer Science and Engineering from JNTU ananataput. During this i did a
project on neural network learning over arbitrarily partitioned data by
privacy preserving , i did this along with my friends . In my project also
i find some bugs and rectified at final submission.
am an enthusiast in finding the bugs. Though you
people were developed and released successfully OO there are some minor
bugs in the previous versions. i want to submit some bugs related to spread
sheet in open office.
 I am interested in working with the talented QA
TEAM OF OPENOFFICE , for finding and fixing some bugs, waiting for your
company in QA.



with regards.
hemendra

Re: Starting Second Volunteer Orientation Module

[Lalith Ramesh]

I just finished this module.  I also updated the wiki to include the tasks
I can perform on this project.

On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the progress updates, Lalith!
>
> On 10/03/2015 12:00 PM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> > I'm done with the first new volunteer orientation module, and now I'm
> > starting the second one:  How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works.
> >
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> “The journey of a thousand miles begins
>  with a single step.”
>   --Lao Tzu
>
>
>

Starting Second Volunteer Orientation Module

[Lalith Ramesh]

I'm done with the first new volunteer orientation module, and now I'm
starting the second one:  How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works.

Re: Starting Second Volunteer Orientation Module

[Kay Schenk]

Thanks for the progress updates, Lalith!

On 10/03/2015 12:00 PM, Lalith Ramesh wrote:
> I'm done with the first new volunteer orientation module, and now I'm
> starting the second one:  How the Apache OpenOffice Project Works.
> 

-- 

MzK

“The journey of a thousand miles begins
 with a single step.”
  --Lao Tzu



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New Dev Volunteer

[aarn.wong]

Hi,


My name is Aaron. I am from Brooklyn, NY. I just graduated from the Ohio State 
University with a bachelor’s degree in mathematics. Working on programming 
projects has been a hobby of mine since I started college. Most of what I know 
is self taught. I hope to learn a lot more by participating in open office.


Thanks,


Aaron Wong

Completed Level 1 New Volunteer Module

[Nhien Le]

Hello,

Just wanted to let you know that I've completed the first orientation
module.

Best,

Nhien Le

New Volunteer Introduction

[Nhien Le]

Hello all,

My name is Nhien Le, and I'm from Dallas, Texas, and just starting out with
volunteering for OpenOffice. I'm eager to help out with writing technical
documentation for the project, and I'm looking forward to working alongside
my fellow volunteers.

Best,

Nhien Le

RE: Volunteer -- Documentation Editing / Proofreading

[Casey Valk]

Hi All,
I received management approval at Esri to be able to volunteer with no 
restrictions.

If my log in details contain IBM info (cv...@us.ibm.com), will you please reset 
them to casey.v...@gmail.com for now?

Regards,
Casey

Cassandra L. Valk
Contracts and Legal Services Department
Environmental Systems Research Institute, Inc.
Esri | 380 New York Street | Redlands, CA 92373 | USA
Phone: 909.793.2853 ext. 3840 | Fax: 909.307.3020 |
Email: cv...@esri.com | www.esri.com 


-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 1:57 PM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: Casey Valk
Subject: RE: Volunteer -- Documentation Editing / Proofreading

There is one additional consideration.  That is whether your new employer has a 
claim on concerning your work.

That is, do you have the right to make the contributions you wish to make or 
does your employment agreement limit your ability to contribute?

This will depend on your own circumstances.  Only contribute what you are free 
to contribute.  If necessary, obtain any employer permission.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 23:06
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Cc: cv...@esri.com
Subject: Re: Volunteer -- Documentation Editing / Proofreading

Casey Valk wrote:
 What steps do I need to take to start volunteering in light of changing 
 companies?

The company you are working for is irrelevant. Or had you registered for our 
wiki(s) using your old company accounts? In that case we can adjust login 
details for you, just let us know.

As for actual contributions, you can read about the process at 
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-doc.html and the two things you 
need to do are: subscribing to the doc list and registering for the wikis.

Then I suggest that you join the recent discussions that you find archived at 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-doc/
where we are seeing how to move forward with the current documentation efforts. 
Your input and availability to help will surely be welcome!

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Volunteer -- Documentation Editing / Proofreading

[Andrea Pescetti]

Casey Valk wrote:

What steps do I need to take to start volunteering in light of changing 
companies?


The company you are working for is irrelevant. Or had you registered for 
our wiki(s) using your old company accounts? In that case we can adjust 
login details for you, just let us know.


As for actual contributions, you can read about the process at 
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-doc.html and the two 
things you need to do are: subscribing to the doc list and registering 
for the wikis.


Then I suggest that you join the recent discussions that you find 
archived at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-doc/ 
where we are seeing how to move forward with the current documentation 
efforts. Your input and availability to help will surely be welcome!


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Subscription to mailing list from a QA volunteer

[Keith N. McKenna]

Lalitha Ramprasad wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I joined openoffice QA list a few months back. I was asked to subscribe to
 dev@openoffice.apache.org to get posts on issues. I'm new to QA and it
 would be helpful if you could add me into this group.
 
 Thankyou,
 Lalitha
 
Hi Lalitha;

To Subscribe to the dev list you need to send an e-mail to the following
address: mailto:dev-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org. You will receive a
reply with instructions on how to confirm your subscription. Follow
those instructions and you will be subscribed. If you do not see the
confirmation e-mail, be sure to check your spam/junk folder as some mail
programs will route them to junk mail.

As a courtesy I have cc'd your e-mail address. Please reply only to the
list address and not to me personally.

Regards and Welcome
Keith



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Subscription to mailing list from a QA volunteer

[Lalitha Ramprasad]

Hi,

I joined openoffice QA list a few months back. I was asked to subscribe to
dev@openoffice.apache.org to get posts on issues. I'm new to QA and it
would be helpful if you could add me into this group.

Thankyou,
Lalitha

Volunteer -- Documentation Editing / Proofreading

[Casey Valk]

Hello,
Some time back I expressed interest in volunteering to edit / proofread 
documentation.  At that time I was with IBM and corresponded with Rob Weir, a 
fellow IBMer.  I have since left IBM and now work for Esri (contact info below).

What steps do I need to take to start volunteering in light of changing 
companies?

Regards,
Casey

Cassandra L. Valk
Contracts and Legal Services Department
Environmental Systems Research Institute, Inc.
Esri | 380 New York Street | Redlands, CA 92373 | USA
Phone: 909.793.2853 ext. 3840 | Fax: 909.307.3020 |
Email: cv...@esri.commailto:cv...@esri.com | 
www.esri.comhttp://www.esri.com/

Re: Tech Writing Volunteer

[Keith N. McKenna]

Rania Hanna wrote:
 To whom it may concern:
 
 How do I get involved in tech writing volunteer opportunities?
 
 Thank you,
 Rania Hanna
 
Greetings Rania;

Thank you for your interest in tech writing opportunities. The firs two
(2) things to do would be to read the documentation orientation page at
http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-doc.html, and to
subscribe to the documentation mailing list by sending a blank e-mail to
doc-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org and following the instructions in
the reply you will receive.

I look forward to hearing more from you on the doc mailing list.

Regards
Keith McKenna




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Tech Writing Volunteer

[Rania Hanna]

To whom it may concern:

How do I get involved in tech writing volunteer opportunities?

Thank you,
Rania Hanna