[dev] [OT] Re: Re: Now available: Apache OpenOffice Announcement List

2011-12-27 Thread eric b

Hi,


Le 27 déc. 11 à 10:33, Davide Dozza a écrit :


Il 27/12/2011 10.09, Clemens Eisserer ha scritto:

Why doesn't apache simply contribute to LibreOffice?
I don't see the reasioning behind spliting the scarce resources  
any further.
I can simply invert the question: why doesn't TDF simply contribute  
to Apache OpenOffice.org?


There is not a simple answer: it's a long story of copyleft.

In the future, I'm sure Apache, and TDF will find a way to  
collaborate actively.



Be sure EducOOo never will (or will be without me), and the day  
Apache project will do that, I'll have no reason to continue to  
contribute.



Just a reminder:

TDF and LibreOffice have been decided in the background, without  
public discussion, without even inform the OpenOffice.org project  
leads, by people who autoproclamed themselves as founding members.


Exactly the opposite of what should be a community project.



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[dev] Re: How to rebuild types.rdb ?

2011-08-18 Thread eric b

Hi Mathias,


Apologies for the mail posted twice : I didn't see it arrive on the  
dev@ooo, so I supposed the list was no longer active ...


Le 18 août 11 à 07:13, Mathias Bauer a écrit :


On 16.08.2011 00:17, eric b wrote:

Can someone explain me :

- why a binary blob is directly provided in OpenOffice.org  
sources ? (

OOO320_m1x  for instance)


This is just a reference file for the API compatibility check.



I see now.



- how to create a new types.rdb (and what are the mandatory tools) ?


It is a delivery of each build. The reference file was updated at  
times

by Jürgen Schmidt, using the current types.rdb of the latest release.



Thanks for your answer, I got all the informatio :-)


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[dev] How to rebuild types.rdb ?

2011-08-17 Thread eric b

Hi,

Doing some performance tests, I just figured out the types.rdb file  
is a binary file, just provided in the sources.



Can someone explain me :

- why a binary blob is directly provided in OpenOffice.org sources ?  
( OOO320_m1x  for instance)


- how to create a new types.rdb (and what are the mandatory tools) ?


Thanks in advance,
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[dev] simple ideas

2011-06-28 Thread Eric Kindig
Hi,

I've just begun using the spreadsheet program in Open Office, and I've found
a few little things I wish it could do.  I might even be able to write some
of it in C++.  These don't necessarily have to be in everyone's version of
the software, I just wish it were available to me.  But these are simple:

Icon for number format: time: There are icon sets at the tops of the
screen, some of which apply number formats to your cells: one for currency
(you can set this to your local default, it seems), one for percent, one for
dates, etc.  I wanted one for time, so found it in the customize icon sets
menu, but it had no icon associated with it.  So I chose modify  change
icon... and searched around to find a little clock, and it's perfect.
 Maybe you should make the clock a default instead of the words number
format: time.
Choose default date and time formats: The above-mentioned icons for date
and time formats automatically change numbers into dates or times, which is
great, but it always does it in the same format: 08/29/09 or 12:34:56 PM
(respectively).  I want to be able to choose the default formats, which are
not those ones.
Option to remove or hide extraneous options: What prompts this for me
specifically was that I was scrolling through the available date formats to
find my favorite, and I had to scroll past all of these Jewish date formats
to discover that my favorite was not on your list.  I was able to create my
own format to use, which is great, but it now appears at the very bottom of
the list, so every time I want to choose it, I have to scroll past all those
Jewish dates again.  Now, I have no problem with Jewish dates (or any other
calendars, for that matter), but I'm almost certainly never going to use
them, so I wish I could just remove them from the list, or hide them
somewhere out of the way.  Or re-arrange the list to my liking, so I don't
have to keep scrolling past them.
Change date codes: In writing my own date code, I was happily impressed
with the options available to me, and I went to your help file to see what
all of my choices were.  However, I encountered an interesting decision by
whomever wrote the codes for what would appear when you made dates.
 Specifically:

D -- Day as 2

DD -- Day as 02

NN or DDD -- Day as Sun-Sat

NNN or  -- Day as Sunday to Saturday

 -- Day followed by comma, as in Sunday,


Now, I like that typing either 'N's or 'D's will get you the day of the
week, but who decided that 3 D's is the same as 2 N's?  Sometimes it's very
important to know the day of the week, and not just the calendar date, so
I'm happy we have the option of showing the day of the week within the date.
 However, in the spirit of minimizing space, it's good to be able to
abbreviate, showing Sat instead of Saturday, for instance.  But this can
be further abbreviated, as I'm sure you've seen on office calendars and
schedules and such:

M - Monday

T - Tuesday

W - Wednesday

R or H - Thursday

F - Friday

Obviously, this is not an ideal system, since there are several days
containing an R, and this system doesn't do much for the non-work days of
Saturday and Sunday.  Nevertheless, this is a system in use by some people,
so I believe it should be represented by typing one N.

Another alternative to this one-letter abbreviation system is a two-letter
system which is far more understandable: Mo, Tu, We, Th, Fr, Sa, Su.  This
is what I like to use, because it clearly shows the day of the week while
using the smallest space possible.  So I would like 2 N's to show this
format, rather than 2 N's giving you a 3-letter day of the week.  It seems
far more sensible that one N give you a one-letter day-name, 2 N's give you
a two-letter name, 3 N's give you a three-letter name, and 4 N's give you a
long name.



Again, I could easily write some of this into C++, but I mostly wish I could
just make it work this way on my computer so I don't have to bother all of
the other millions of users if they don't want these changes.  So please let
me know how I can help, or how you can help me.  Oh, and also let me know
where the best repository is for these types of requests: I searched around
on your web-site and this was the best thing I came up with.



Thanks so much!


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[dev] Education Project at Libre Software meeting (Strasbourg 2011)

2011-05-30 Thread eric b

Hi,

For the record, the OpenOffice.org Education Project will be  
represented à LibreSoftware Meeting Strasbourg (France) 2011 :
http://2011.rmll.info/Developpement-du-module-d-annotation-dans- 
Office-Impress-Development-of-the-annotation-module-in


Thanks to the students frome Ecole Centrale Nantes.

... and see you !

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[dev] Re: Mac OS X Snow Leopard and 64bit...

2011-04-01 Thread eric b


Le 1 avr. 11 à 09:21, Pavel Janík a écrit :


Hi,




Hi Pavel,



do we have a plan to support building OOo on Mac OS X Snow Leopard?




Unfortunaly, not me :  I have no machine running it (nor 10.5  
either), and I'll stick to Tiger as long as possible.



Just a wild guess, but if things continue the current way, it is not  
ridiculous to imagine Apple switching to ARM architecture (like MS  
will do)



It has 64bit kernel, ie. platform is x86_64, by default doesn't  
come with 10.4u SDK (you have to install it, it is optional in  
Xcode optional install ;-), has 32bit and 64bit producing gccs (gcc  
4.0 is producing 32bit and gcc 4.2.1 is producing 64bit binaries.  
The default one is 4.2.1, but OOo is not ready for 64bit on Mac OS  
X yet) etc.



Do you have a list of what has to be done ?  Probably at least a new  
bridge, but maybe something else ?






I put a rough hacks which I use to build 32bit OOo on Snow Leopard to

http://tmp.janik.cz/OOo/snowleopard/snowleopard.diff




Indeed you should install the missing 10.4 SDK  :-)



In addition to this, I build with:

export CC=ccache /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
export CXX=ccache /usr/bin/g++-4.0




Regards,
Eric





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Re: [dev] EducOOo donated code for ARM Linux port

2011-02-19 Thread eric b


Le 19 févr. 11 à 13:51, Rene Engelhard a écrit :


On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 08:41:43AM +0100, eric b wrote:

Hi,




Hi René,



For your information :
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=117017


EducOOo donated code for ARM Linux port makes it sound you did  
the port.

Wrong.



What is wrong ?

Yes, a code for the ARM port has been donated, and I added, by  
EducOOo, because I mostly work for EducOOo.



But the important fact, is I'm proud to donate code to  
OpenOffice.org : since years, Sun engineers, never refused to help  
me, and I honestly think what I propose will help.
And I never wrote I did the port. But writing the assembler part does  
really concern porting.



Anyway, the current port is sub-optimal, and I wonder why you react  
so violently ?




Stop your propaganda, please.



Wow ..  :-)


This is not propaganda : I spent 3 weeks to discover the BeagleBoard,  
and several day to learn how things work, the most critical part  
being the current interlock part, I wrote in asembler.
Since I do not want to spend my time with useless discussion, I'll  
copy-paste the IRC discussion we had, to inform people, and show I'm  
not what you described.



To avoid spamming the list with the discussion, please read (in the  
case you are interested :


http://eric.bachard.free.fr/patches/OOo4Kids/linux_arm/ 
log_irc_saturday19feb2011_EducOOo_donated_code.txt




Intreresting you even dropped the correct list from your CCs  
(dev@porting). What does

marketing to do here instead?




Because I'd like to inform people the ARM port is extremely  
important.  Like I did when I explained Mac OS X port was a 15  
millions of potential users port, some years ago.


And I was right.


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[dev] EducOOo donated code for ARM Linux port

2011-02-18 Thread eric b

Hi,

For your information : http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi? 
id=117017


Linux ARM is extremely promising for the future, and imho it worth to  
improve it asap.



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Re: [dev] Re: OOo Pivoting Code Extraction

2011-02-16 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 16 févr. 11 à 14:24, Alexander Thurgood a écrit :

but your question would probably be best asked on the developer  
mailing list.





??

This list is OpenOffice.org development mailing list.



You could have a look in the source code here :

git/libo/clone/calc/sc/qa/complex/dataPilot



Wrong place.  LibreOffice is not OpenOffice.org



A nice tool you can use, to travel in OOo source code, is OpenGrok.   
See : http://svn.services.openoffice.org/opengrok/


And if you are searching in recent code, select DEV300_m99 and  
ScDatabaseDPData  or the keywords Nicklas proposed.



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[dev] ARM port

2011-02-15 Thread eric b

[Please FU2 d...@education.openoffice.org ]


Hello,


Anybody working on ARM port ? Or interested to try ?

As experimental test, I did the native OOo4Kids  build on OMAP3, and  
work on new features (to be backported in OOo) could constitute a  
good study case for beginners in OOo source code.




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Re: [dev] ARM port

2011-02-15 Thread eric b

Hi Caolan,

Le 15 févr. 11 à 10:26, Caolán McNamara a écrit :


On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 10:15 +0100, eric b wrote:

Anybody working on ARM port ?


OpenOffice.org is already ported to Linux ARM, oabi and eabi, le and
be.



Sure. But the current port is generic and needs some improvements at  
several places anyway, plus, the current OpenOffice.org is unusable  
on such machines.


To be honest, only a stripped down version like OOoLight or OOo4Kids  
is today - sort of- correct to my eyes.



But even if it works, other issues jump, and  my question was more  
about innovate and search new ideas. Working with students would be  
even better :)



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[dev] Re: [dev-educ] Re: [dev] ARM port

2011-02-15 Thread eric b

Hi Ian


Looks like I had to moderate your mail (probably not subscribed ?)

Le 15 févr. 11 à 10:47, Ian Lynch a écrit :

Certainly a version of OOo that works well on ARM technologies is  
very important for the future.



That's one role of the OpenOffice.org Education Project to innovate,  
and try new tracks.


Unfortunaly, we didn't receive too much of support, including lot of  
promises, but nothing serious ...




Regards,
Eric


P.S. : OO4Kids (not optimized ) is available as pre-installed version  
for OMAP3 + Angstrom Linux here : http://ftp.educoo.org/home/OOo4Kids/ 
Linux_ARM/OMAP3/

(provided as it, as experimental try, and you use it at your own risk )

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Re: [dev] ARM port

2011-02-15 Thread eric b


Le 15 févr. 11 à 11:54, Rene Engelhard a écrit :


Hi,




Hi René,



On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:38:15AM +0100, eric b wrote:

OpenOffice.org is already ported to Linux ARM, oabi and eabi, le and
be.



Sure. But the current port is generic and needs some improvements  
at several places anyway, plus, the current OpenOffice.org is  
unusable on such machines.


Wrong.



Sorry, but I tend to disagree : can you please tell me the arm  
version choosen by default in OOo source code ? I'm just working at  
the optimization and what I see, tells me it's not optimized at all.


But I can be wrong, and you'll tell me then ...


It is obvious, that the current OpenOffice.org can run (I know) on  
current ARM, but will be slow as hell on the machine anybody can buy,  
today. Nobody will use that, and a lot of work is mandatory.



Of course, you can acceed experimental boards, or not-public  
machines, what is different.





To be honest, only a stripped down version like OOoLight or OOo4Kids
is today - sort of- correct to my eyes.


No, there's powerful multi-core ARMs. And there's armhf even  
mitigating the floating point thing.



Yes, but where do you buy such machines *today* ? And so far, the  
only multi-core ARM I'm aware is the OMAP5 : scheduled somewhere in 2012


The reality, today says : you can buy development boards, including  
OMAP4 (like Pandaboard), and is not multi-core.



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Re: [dev] ARM port

2011-02-15 Thread eric b

Hi,

Apologies ...


Le 15 févr. 11 à 12:08, eric b a écrit :


The reality, today says : you can buy development boards, including  
OMAP4 (like Pandaboard), and is not multi-core.




... I was too fast : PandaBoard is multi core. I have some doubts OOo  
will use both, but worth a try.


Anyway, this will not solve the performance issue at launching time


Regards,
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Re: [dev] ARM port

2011-02-15 Thread eric b

Hi Rene,

Le 15 févr. 11 à 13:19, Rene Engelhard a écrit :


On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 12:08:47PM +0100, eric b wrote:

Sorry, but I tend to disagree : can you please tell me the arm
version choosen by default in OOo source code ? I'm just working at


Whatever default your compiler does.

$ file /usr/lib/ure/lib/libuno_sal.so.3
/usr/lib/ure/lib/libuno_sal.so.3: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object,  
ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped





Yes : armv1 is default


Nothing per default, yes, though. (Debioan armel targets armv4t  
anyway,

afaicr)




Indeed : I read that recently when I searched what could be installed  
on my BeaglBoard.




the optimization and what I see, tells me it's not optimized at all.

But I can be wrong, and you'll tell me then ...


Even if you were right, how does it matter? OOo also is optimized  
only for pentiumpro on i386.





And if you wished, you can optimize for whatever ARM you see fit.



What I want to say, is :

- provide OOo for arm version prior to v6 does not really make sense,  
because too slow, not enough or embedded ram and so on.

- starting v6, or even v7, is a good compromise

More precisely, starting armv6 version, the efficiency improved a lot.

To provide some figures, doing the test myself, using armv7 flags,  
decreased the binary size from 3 to 5% (average value). Now that bad,  
when we know OOo size on the disk.






It is obvious, that the current OpenOffice.org can run (I know) on
current ARM, but will be slow as hell on the machine anybody can
buy, today. Nobody will use that, and a lot of work is mandatory.


Wrong. I tried it on my SheevaPlug, and it's quite usable.



Is it me, or there is no monitor output ?

The BeagleBoard is not that powerfull, but is hdmi capable.  thanks a  
lot for the link though.



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[dev] [long] Integrate an extension in the code at buildtime : what do with bitmaps ?

2011-01-03 Thread eric b

Hi,

Happy New Year to all of you, and the best for 2011 !  :-)


I'm currently working on integrate a nice and existing C++ extension,  
but directly in the code, means at buildtime. To summarize, if I  
integrate the lib (written in C++) in the scp2 .. and so on system,  
there is no problem at all, the packaging is ok and it works fine in  
the install set.


In fact, everything works fine, but the icons are not seen, because  
simply not found  :-/



To explain more, the first point is, after tracing a bit, that the  
NormalFileName property is used to retrieve the right bitmap  
(please correct me if I'm wrong). As example, looking at the original  
name, we have (in the .xcu) :


node oor:name=Background
  prop oor:name=NormalFileName
valuebitmaps/Background.png/value
  /prop

And in the extension, it appears that the relative path is used,  
means the library is in :

extension/random_name/libThing.${DLL_EXTENSION}

... while the .png are in :
extension/random_name/bitmaps/*.png

This happens to work ok, of course. Am I correct to suppose that the  
relative path is used, or did I miss something ?



My tries now : using the other existing .xcu as example and trying to  
respect the schema ( .xcs file), I did the what follows:


node oor:name=Background
  prop oor:name=NormalFileName
value$(insturl)/share/config/bitmaps/Background.png/value
  /prop
... and so on

It does not work, but the idea is

1) put the library using those icons in  $(insturl)/program (like all  
the other libs in fact ...)

2) use the path above to retrieve the icons.

I must say I tested absolute and relative paths, without success.

For example :
valuexlink:href=$(insturl)/share/config/bitmaps/Background.png/ 
value


or :
valuexlink:href=../share/config/bitmaps/Background.png/value


Last, the documentation I have read is :

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/ 
Extensions/Checklist_for_Writing_Extensions
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/ 
Extensions/Example

+  a lot of .xcs / .xcu shipped in the OOO3.2.1 code base

Feel free to ask me if I forgot some information, and thanks in  
advance for any help  :-)


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[dev] [SOLVED] Re: [dev] [long] Integrate an extension in the code at buildtime : what do with bitmaps ?

2011-01-03 Thread eric b

Hi Jürgen,


Le 3 janv. 11 à 12:03, Jürgen Schmidt a écrit :


Hi,

mmh, if you want to use the extension as it is see
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide/ 
Extensions/Packaging_Notes






If you prefer to integrate the extension as a fix part of OOo you  
probably have to tweak a little bit more.




That's what I did. More precisely, I

But keep in mind that the configuration changed and we don't have  
the many xcu/xcs files anymore. They are combined in *.xcd files, for

example brand.xcd



Ah, yes, I'll have a look at the new scheme.


Images are often provided in a zip container but also as single  
image files,


In this case as single image files (was my need).




The remaining problem would be how to address such an image from a
config file. $(insturl) is expanded some where in the framework.



It was the case +   a bad path (yes, a typo )

I solved the problem using Bootstrap. More precisely :


#if defined( OOo4Kids ) || defined( OOoLight )
OUString aConfigPath( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM 
($OOO_BASE_DIR/share/config/) );

::rtl::Bootstrap::expandMacros( aConfigPath );


And the expandMacros did it  : the feature works now :-)



It
seems that we are missing a macro that can be used here and that  
can be expanded with the macro expander. Or maybe a special UCP  
like the one
for extensions (using the the extension identifier). But this UCP  
don't work in this case.





Yes, doing that, I discovered the UCP world, and I think I'll learn  
more in the future about this great idea.



Sorry i have no real solution for you at the moment or at least i  
don't know one.





Thanks anyway :  I solved all the issues (the interation is done  
now), and I'm glad to see fast answers.



Regards,
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Re: [dev] Re: [long] Integrate an extension in the code at buildtime : what do with bitmaps ?

2011-01-03 Thread eric b

Hi Christian,

Le 3 janv. 11 à 20:58, Christian Lippka a écrit :


Hi Eric,

just to clearify. Do you still want to keep it as an extension or  
do you like to 'dissolve' the extensions functionality in

native OOo code?


I wanted to dissolve the extension functionnality in the code, and I  
discovered new ideas :)


In fact, what I did was more for the principle, a proof of concept,  
and the result is what I expected.  If you are interested to know  
more, we could discuss about that on IRC ?



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[dev] Fw: [discuss] adding my company's label templates to OO

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Teng

hi developers,

Ill like to know how to add label templates to OO just like avery and 
sigel. we are a labels supplier located in singapore.


thanks and regards
eric



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hi OO,


Ill like to know how to add label templates to OO just like avery and 
sigel. we are a labels supplier located in singapore.


thanks and regards
eric



Wrong place to ask, you would need to talk to the developers, start at 
http://contributing.openoffice.org/programming.html .


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[dev] Fw: [discuss] adding my company's label templates to OO

2010-11-16 Thread Eric Teng



hi OO,


Ill like to know how to add label templates to OO just like avery and 
sigel. we are a labels supplier located in singapore.


thanks and regards
eric
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hi OO,


Ill like to know how to add label templates to OO just like avery and 
sigel. we are a labels supplier located in singapore.


thanks and regards
eric



Wrong place to ask, you would need to talk to the developers, start at 
http://contributing.openoffice.org/programming.html .


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[dev] Re: [qa-dev] Lecture at Nara Institute of Science and Technology

2010-11-16 Thread eric b

Hi Maho,


Mostly source code oriented, and as reminder, there is the Education  
Project.


The principle is to welcome and mentor students, associated with  
schools, including a professor, or any representative people, as  
contact.
The goal is to work on simple pieces of code, and write, invent,  
simply have Fun with OpenOffice.org style of code.


As recent example, the Education Project contributed to improve the  
Equation editor (see tlmath01, and the famous issue 972).
Everything is hosted at EducOOo (non profit association  
OpenOffice.org dedicated) wiki, but everything is free  :)



Thanks,
Eric Bachard



IRC : #education.openoffice.org  (server is freenode.irc.net)

Important links :

http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/ImproveMathEquationEditor/ 
Baseline_AlignmentEquations


Some entry points : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Education_Project


Other link: http://education.openoffice.org/



Le 17 nov. 10 à 01:29, Maho NAKATA a écrit :


Hi Joost and Caio and all
(Cc: Ihara-san)

On 2010/11/15, I did a lecture at NAIST (Nara Institute of Science  
and Technology),
titled How academia can participate to OpenOffice.org, slide is  
uploaded
too (in Japanese). Students are really enthusiastic and motivative.  
Really

wonderful.

I discussed with Ihara-san, who is a PhD candidate and two students
of Prof. Matsumoto-lab. They are interested in FLOSS development  
process,

and of course, QA process.





I'm wondering how we collaborate, and improve our process.

[BTW: I have long been waiting and looking for such collaboration.
and thanks for Dr. Komachi-san for invitation.]

Thanks,
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http://blog.goo.ne.jp/nakatamaho/ ,GPG: http://accc.riken.jp/maho/ 
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Re: [dev] Contribution Ideas

2010-10-18 Thread eric b

Hello,


FYI, there is the OpenOffice.org Education Project, welcoming  
students, and proposing applications (but not extensions, see Ariel  
answer in this case). The idea is to work with students and profs  
from a given school, and solve a problem discovering OpenOffice.org  
source code.


Our communication is based on IRC and mailing lists + weekly IRC  
meetings and project reviews.


If you are interested, please have a look at:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project/Effort

One of our projects is OOo4Kids, and we have a lot of Fun with that :
http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/WelcomeStudents

And if you want to discuss directly online with us, there is  
#education.openoffice.org channel, on irc.freenode.net server.



Regards,
Eric Bachard


Le 19 oct. 10 à 02:52, Patrick W. McDonald a écrit :


Hey,

My name is Patrick McDonald, I'm a student at Longwood University,  
and for my software engineering class the professor has assigned us  
a project that requires us to make a contribution to an open source  
project of our choice. I decided to work on OpenOffice, since I'm  
fairly familiar with the software. He suggested I do something  
simple, such as adding functionality to the Writer's formula bar or  
something along those lines.


With that in mind, I'd like to ask if there's any particular  
formulas you would like to see supported by the formula bar, or  
barring that if there are any other ideas that you have that would  
be at around the same level of difficulty to implement. Thanks for  
any responses, and I look forward to helping improve OpenOffice.


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Re: [dev] Students that want to contribute to openoffice.

2010-09-13 Thread eric b

Hi,


Le 12 sept. 10 à 21:11, Dellomo, Matthew a écrit :


Dear open office organization,



OpenOffice.org you mean ?  :-)



I am a student at Worcester State University, studying object oriented
software as part a group of 3 other students.




Great :)

OpenOffice.org is mostly written in C++ , so it should be ok :)


Is there any way that we could contribute to maybe an open office  
extension?





Well, the OOo wiki has a lot of entries about that :

See http://wiki.services.openoffice.org a lot of links are waiting  
your read :)



We have less than 3 months together to help out in any way that we  
can.




If you are interested, instead of writing  an extension, the  
OpenOffice.org Education Project does student mentoring, in  
collaboration with schools.


So you could work on little issues, or features improvement with the  
Education Project ? See:  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Education_Project/Effort . There are plenty of proposals, you can wor  
on, one or several students, mentored by us.


And the EducOOo non profit assocation can participate to the  
application validation with your school / University ( like we  
already do with Epitech Paris, Ecole Centrale Nantes .. and so on)


Just in case you are interested, of course.



How can we get started with the current methods used to generate  
open source software?
Could we be assigned someone to consult with, about questions and  
issues?




If you want to know more, we use a lot the IRC channel for  
discussions, development, includig ClassRooms .


Channel :  #education.openoffice.org
Server : irc.freenode.net



Thank you



You're welcome :-)

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Re: [dev] Newbe

2010-09-05 Thread eric b


Le 4 sept. 10 à 20:11, Alan Griffiths a écrit :


Hi,




Hi,



Have some programming background from way back yonder (Fortran, C,
Pascal, C++, VBA) and would like to help - although very rusty!



So far, C++ is ~ 90% of OOo source code.


Have just built OpenOffice under Ubuntu, but have run out of  
knowledge in how to install it (not a Linux guru).



You'll find everything in instsetoo_native

cd instsetoo_native
find . -name *.tar.gz

= there will be one archive containing all the .deb

1) create a folder
2) put the .tar.gz inside
3) decompress the archive
4) cd in the dir containing all the .deb

cp desktop-integration/*  .# notice the .

sudo dpkg -i  *.deb

And you should be done





Will continue to peruse the docs out there..

May take some time for me to get up to speed, although I have  
plenty time at the moment..




If you are interested to dive into OOo code, and fix some bugs, or  
implement new features, I invite you to have a look on the OOo wiki.


Search for education project (see the links below)


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[dev] pb sending mails to the list

2010-08-21 Thread eric b

Hi,

Just a test : I tried to answer somebody recently, and my mail is  
seen as spam.




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[dev] [OT] Re: [dev] pb sending mails to the list

2010-08-21 Thread eric b


Le 21 août 10 à 09:42, Alexandro Colorado a écrit :


not here... email went through just fine.



I don't know what contained the previous mail, but sure it is refused  
everywhere : even sending it directly to me does not work, because  
seen as spam everytime by my provider :-/


Regards,
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Re: [dev] Re: building openoffice problem

2010-08-20 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 20 août 10 à 15:54, Santiago Bosio a écrit :



Perhaps, you don't set the environment correctly.



+1

Source the LinuxX86Env.Set.sh (or LinuxX86_64Env.Set.sh on 64 bits  
Linux) is correct, and probably the reason, but not bootstrap, needed  
only once.



Before cd'ing into the module you wish to build, always execute ./ 
bootstrap



... bootstrap is used to build dmake. Located somewhere in solenv/bin

Of course, if -for some reason- you delete dmake (the binary one in  
solenv), then ./bootstrap is usefull to rebuild a new one.



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Re: [dev] Re: building openoffice problem

2010-08-20 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 20 août 10 à 20:34, Soohong Min a écrit :


I tried to set the environment correctly.
After ./bootstrap - source LinuxX86Env.Set.sh -
cd module
build

I got this message
perl: warning: Setting locale failed
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
 LANGUAGE = (unset),
 LC_ALL = (unset),
 LANG = en_US.UTF-8
 are supported and installed on your system
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C)



Maybe locale can help you ?

= man locale



Can't open perl script
/home/vaio/Downloads/ooo-build-3.2.1.4/build/ooo320-m19/solenv/bin/ 
build.pl:

No such file or directory



What is the right path ?




My issue is
/home/vaio/Downloads/ooo-build-3.2.1.4/build/ooo320-m19/solenv/bin/ 
build.pl:

No such file or directory



Means : something has been modified, since configure, and no longer  
matches with the environment variables contained in the  
LinuxX86Env.Set.sh




this path is wrong path. So I'd like to know how to fix it.
Please let me know.




Did you move the sources or modified the directories names since the  
first time you did configure ?





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Re: [dev] Re: building openoffice problem

2010-08-20 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 20 août 10 à 20:54, Soohong Min a écrit :





Did you move the sources or modified the directories names since  
the first

time you did configure ?


Yes. I moved the sources to other computer.
If so, how can I match with the environment variables contained in the
LinuxX86Env.Set.sh?




Redo configure (using the same options as the first time), will  
regenerate a new LinuxX86Env.Set.sh





Thanks




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Re: [dev] building DEV300-m83 problem

2010-07-30 Thread eric b


Le 30 juil. 10 à 01:02, Michal Spisiak a écrit :


Hello,




Hello Michal,



to disable everything that might cause problems. Building vcl I got  
first

error:

...

Entering /home/miko/new_OOo/local_DEV300/vcl/unx/source/fontmanager

Making:all_fontman.dpslo
Compiling: vcl/unx/source/fontmanager/fontmanager.cxx
Compiling: vcl/unx/source/fontmanager/fontcache.cxx
Compiling: vcl/unx/source/fontmanager/fontconfig.cxx



[..cut...]



rtl::OUString, const rtl::OString, psp::italic::type,
psp::weight::type, psp::width::type, psp::pitch::type) const
dmake:  Error code 1, while making '../../../unxlngi6.pro/slo/ 
fontconfig.obj'


here I just added references to the implementation of the method as  
they

were in the header

but then I got second error:





...

Entering /home/miko/new_OOo/local_DEV300/vcl/util

Compiling: vcl/unxlngi6.pro/misc/vcl_dflt_version.c
Compiling: vcl/unxlngi6.pro/misc/vclplug_gen_dflt_version.c
Compiling: vcl/unxlngi6.pro/misc/desktop_detector_dflt_version.c



[...cut...]




../unxlngi6.pro/slo/salgdi3.o: In function `.L389':
salgdi3.cxx:(.text+0xdee): undefined reference to  
`psp::PrintFontManager::getFontOptions(psp::FastPrintFontInfo const,





Looking in the .o, it is exactly defined once (as expected)



int, void (*)(void*), ImplFontOptions) const'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
dmake:  Error code 1, while making '../unxlngi6.pro/lib/ 
libvclplug_genli.so'


and I have no idea what happens here, I just checked that the  
method is not overloaded and it's not...





Same for me. We searched together with Michal, I confirm we searched  
a long while what could happen with fontconfig and co.


Is there any existing issue open around that ? (we didn't find one) ?  
Or is it a specific Ubuntu issue ?



Thanks,
Eric






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Re: [dev] building DEV300-m83 problem

2010-07-30 Thread eric b


Le 30 juil. 10 à 13:49, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :


Hi Michael,




Hi,

I'm not Michal, but I worked with him when we were stuck with this  
issue, and I'll try to add some info.





On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Michal Spisiak
michal.spis...@gmail.com wrote:


I have a problem building OOo DEV300-m83 on ubuntu 9.10. I  
downloaded the

bundle, updated, ran configure with:

$ ./configure --enable-cups --disable-crashdump --disable-fontconfig
--with-epm=internal --disable-gtk --disable-gnome-vfs --with- 
system-curl
--with-stlport=no --disable-build-mozilla --disable-binfilter -- 
disable-odk
--disable-vba --disable-mozilla --enable-crashdump=no --with-use- 
shell=bash

--enable-presenter-extra-ui --without-junit --disable-graphite
--disable-kde4 --disable-layout --enable-cairo

to disable everything that might cause problems.


Specifying random configure flags is /asking for problems/,



Those flags are not random : everything disabled helps to build  
faster. In our situation, only OOo is not buildable, while Go-OO,  
OOo4Kids are, without one glitch, and we are searching why.




not avoiding them. Unless you know what the flags do, don't specify  
them.





This is the case, I built OOo on my machine using similar flags, and  
the build was successfull (but was on Mac OS X10.4, not Linux, Ubuntu  
-if I remember corretly -).


So, I provided Michal the same flags, and the point was to build OOo,  
a minimalistic way. Of course, the mozilla flags are not correct, and  
that's a good catch. Both --disable-mozilla and --disabl-build- 
mozilla as just an error, but frankly,  I really doubt those flags  
could cause the issue who occurs  in vcl (since the time I build OOo,  
I don't remember such issue).





configure with as few options as possible is the way to go.
--disable-binfilter, --disable-odk being the exception as they
completely disable *independent* parts and thus can accellerate the  
build without side-effects.





Our need is to verify / trace and debug in starmath and sw. IMHO,  
could be Michal striked a strange issue.


In this case, I'd better vote for something wrong with system  
fontconfig , cairo or something around that.



here I just added references to the implementation of the method  
as they

were in the header


So you patched your code, apparently in an area that is sensitive  
to fontconfig (enabled/disabled),




IMHO no : the patch is about starmath, sfx2, and sw (mostly), nothing  
directly concerning vcl.





- so why not just try with fontconfig
enabled?



Whatever flag helping to build OOo is welcome  :-)


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Re: [dev] Cannot find the Internship archives

2010-05-27 Thread eric b

Le 26 mai 10 à 09:20, Juergen Schmidt a écrit :


Hi Eric,




Hi Jürgen,


it was indeed not easy to find, i used and modified the Url from an  
existing archive. I don't know why the mailing lists  
under @openoffice.org are handled this way.


Anyway i assume you looked for the archive of the mailing list  
interns...@openoffice.org


http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/SummarizeList?listName=internship



Thanks.

I received a lot of private mails, form students, who asked me to  
mentor them, about the subjects I proposed.


So, before to continue, I'd like to be sure I'm able to mentor one  
student or not, because I read : .. The Programme is open to  
(student-)developers who can work full-time for a period of about 3  
months on a project .. My problem is I got a day job, and I'm  
obviously *not* able to work full-time helping student.


And since this is rule number one, I'd like someone confirms I have  
to resign. Can someone confirm ?  Thanks in advance.




But there are only 2 mails so far. This does not mean that there is  
no interest, we have already 18 applications that we have started  
to review. Mentors will be informed soon to get in contact with the  
students and to work on the next steps ...



I'd prefer see everything public. e.g. discuss on IRC.


Regards,
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[dev] Cannot find the Internship archives

2010-05-21 Thread eric b

Hi,

Can someone tell me the URL of the OpenOffice.org Internship  
archives ? Strange, I cannot retrieve it ?



Thanks in advance,
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Re: [dev] Can application work well in the system without installing OOo !

2010-05-15 Thread eric b


Le 15 mai 10 à 19:23, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :



I think that if you want to stick to c ++ you may find more  
resources here: http://www.odftoolkit.org ; otherwise I'll coin in  
the project I'm working on:

http://www.lpod-project.org  :-)




Can we see your code ?

/me curious

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Re: [dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development

2010-04-02 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 1 avr. 10 à 18:57, Martin Hollmichel a écrit :


eric.bach...@free.fr wrote:

[...] the most important is to see whether there is or not a real
democracy inside OpenOffice.org.


requesting democracy is quite striking request and and issue where  
people might have different understandings:
do you mean the meritocratic way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
Meritocracy) or the egalitaristic (is this an English word ?) way  
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egalitarianism).
or as others [1] say: We are not voting on every decision. Good  
feedback, good data are welcome. I don't know if I'm that far  
going as Mark saying This is not a democracy since I think  
meritocracy is an established pattern in many Open Source projects.  
And I consider meritocracy as democratic shape.





Thanks for the good catch : Democracy was not precise nor correct,  
and the closest sense I had in mind was meritocracy.



Regards,
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Re: [dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development

2010-04-02 Thread eric b

Hi,


I'm not Matthias, but since Sophie Gautier reposted ... I'll answer  
Sophie Gautier again.



Le 31 mars 10 à 22:10, Sophie a écrit :


The unbalanced was between the mail and the disclaimer on the wiki.  
Sorry that I didn't explain myself better adding confusion on  
something I found important.
(BTW I never read Eric Bachard mails since almost 2 years or really  
by accident, this is irrelevant to my eyes).



Well, when I propose patches, not everybody thinks what I write is  
irrelevant :-)


...  and I could return you the politness : for a lot of reasons,  
everything you write is irrelevant to me too  ;-)


Back to the topic, the most important is to see whether there is or  
not a real Meritocracy inside OpenOffice.org.




Have a nice day,
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[dev] Re: OpenOffice.org Product Development

2010-03-31 Thread eric . bachard
Hi,

Le 31 mars 10 à 22:10, Sophie a écrit :

 The unbalanced was between the mail and the disclaimer on the wiki.
 Sorry that I didn't explain myself better adding confusion on something
 I found important.
(BTW I never read Eric Bachard mails since almost 2 years or really by
 accident, this is irrelevant to my eyes).


Well, when I propose patches, not everybody thinks what I write is irrelevant
:-) ...  and I could return you the politness : for a lot of reasons, everything
you write is irrelevant to me too  ;-)

Back to the topic, the most important is to see whether there is or not a real
democracy inside OpenOffice.org.


Have a nice day,
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[dev] Re: [dev-educ] Re: [tools-dev] Re: [dev-educ] Wiki Cleanup: Mission Accomplished (Mostly)

2010-03-30 Thread eric

Hi Bjorn,

bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany a écrit :

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:31:21 +0200
eric eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: 





Why yet another war against Education Project  ?


No need for paranoia.



Yes, sure, since I read that I alienate developers and that people 
wrote reports about me, I really wonder ...


For the one who want to understand, the essential is there : 
http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=29398




I won't : this is an important IRC meeting, made with students, and
it *must* be kept : this is the history of the project that you want
to delete.


Please read again what I wrote: I do not want to delete those pages,


If so, do not write they will be deleted.



Best Regards and thanks to all who helped out,


If you remove the IRC meeting, I'll stop immediately to contribute to 
the OpenOffice.org Wiki, and  I'll publically explain what happened.


Is it really that hard to add [[Category:Education/Minutes]] to the
text that you copy-pasted? I dont think so. You probably could have
done that on all Education Minutes currently on the Wiki in less time
it took you to write this mail.


Sure, if presented/asked differently, this would have been no problem at 
all.



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[dev] [OT] Re: [dev-educ] Wiki Cleanup: Mission Accomplished (Mostly)

2010-03-30 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 30 mars 10 à 08:45, Cor Nouws a écrit :

eric wrote (31-03-10 10:18)

bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany a écrit :

eric eric.bach...@free.fr wrote:



Why yet another war against Education Project  ?

No need for paranoia.
Yes, sure, since I read that I alienate developers and that  
people wrote reports about me, I really wonder ...
For the one who want to understand, the essential is there :  
http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=devmsgNo=29398


Pls be brave here Eric, and point to your lacking response on the  
reply to that mail.




Please explain me who wrote reports about me, and point me the  
content of these reports.



Thanks,
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Re: [dev] Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) build problems with OOO320

2010-03-25 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 25 mars 10 à 11:31, Ben Staveley-Taylor a écrit :

I'm trying to build on Mac OS X and having difficulties. I have  
followed the instructions on http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/ 
wiki/AquaBuild as best I can but I'm not sure how up to date they  
are. Does anyone have experience of doing this successfully?





Some time ago, I was -something like- the main maintainer of this  
page, I don't have even one machine running Snow Leopard, nor even  
Leopard (all my machines, including PowerPC, run Tiger), so I no  
longer maintain the AquaBuild page.


This explains why you will face some build issues, but I hope someone  
will answer you.




The build kicks off and runs for a couple of minutes but then fail.  
Snippet from the end of the build log:


  gcc -o out/Darwin_SINGLE_SHLIB/drbg.o -c -O2 -fPIC -Di386 -Wmost - 
fpascal-strings -fno-common -pipe -DDARWIN -DHAVE_STRERROR - 
DHAVE_BSD_FLOCK  -DXP_UNIX -DSHLIB_SUFFIX=\dylib\ -DSHLIB_PREFIX= 
\lib\ -DSHLIB_VERSION=\3\ -DSOFTOKEN_SHLIB_VERSION=\3\ - 
DRIJNDAEL_INCLUDE_TABLES -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -DUSE_UTIL_DIRECTLY - 
DMP_API_COMPATIBLE -I../../../../dist/out/include -I../../../../ 
dist/public/nss -I../../../../dist/private/nss -Impi -Iecl  drbg.c

  drbg.c: In function 'RNG_RandomUpdate':
  drbg.c:516: error: size of array 'arg' is negative



I guess you are building mozilla seamonkey when the build broke ?





  make[3]: *** [out/Darwin_SINGLE_SHLIB/drbg.o] Error 1
  make[2]: *** [libs] Error 2
  make[1]: *** [libs] Error 2
  make: *** [libs] Error 2
  dmake:  Error code 2, while making './unxmacxi.pro/misc/build/ 
so_built_nss'



drbg.c:516 is:
PR_STATIC_ASSERT(sizeof(size_t) = 4);

Comment in file says:

* if 'sizeof(size_t) = 4' is triggered, it means that we were  
expecting
 *   sizeof(size_t) to be less than or equal to 4, but it  
wasn't. Setting

 *   NS_PTR_GT_32 will correct that mistake.

Then I tried
  export NS_PTR_GT_32=1
but get the same error on retrying the build.




Yes, probably because this constant has probably to be set in the  
configure, not in the environment.





So far I have done the following:
- Obtained source for v3.2.0 (using svn: svn checkout svn:// 
svn.services.openoffice.org/ooo/tags/OpenOffice_3_2_0/) into  
directory OOO320
- [patch --dry-run -p0  moz2seamonkey_connectivity.diff reported  
the patch was already installed, so I skipped that]



Good idea. Was the patch I used all the time, until seamonkey01 cws  
was integrated. But since, it is completely useless, and we should  
remove that too :)





- copied:
  http://tools.openoffice.org/moz_prebuild/OOo3.2/MACOSXGCCIinc.zip
  http://tools.openoffice.org/moz_prebuild/OOo3.2/MACOSXGCCIlib.zip
  http://tools.openoffice.org/moz_prebuild/OOo3.2/ 
MACOSXGCCIruntime.zip

into OOO320/moz/zipped




If you use that, you need to use  --disable-build-mozilla option (or  
someting similar, that ./configure --help | grep mozilla will tell  
you) at configure time, if I remember correctly, (and if things have  
not been changed since).




- Created build.sh as http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
AquaBuild instructs and run it


- Run:
  ./bootstrap
  source MacOSXX86Env.Set.sh
  cd instsetoo_native
  export TMP=/tmp
  export SYSTEM_OPENSSL=YES
  build --all -P4 --dlv_switch -link --dontgraboutput --html -- 
html_path /Users/$USER/Sites








My system:
  - Mac OS X 10.6.2
  - Xcode 3.2.1


Many thanks for any help you can give.




HTH :)

Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] Trying to build and hack efficiently

2010-03-21 Thread eric b


Le 21 mars 10 à 01:45, Rémy Roy a écrit :


Hello,



Hello,

I'm quite new with developing Open Office, but what I want to do  
ultimatly is to solve issue 100709. I want to be able to quickly
build, run, test, modify the code and do it again so I can hack  
efficiently.






I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 with the DEV300 branch. I've having some  
troubles building with the PKGFORMAT=installed option. I can build
successfully but in the end my LOCALINSTALLDIR only contains an  
openoffice.org directory. It seems like it is missing the
openoffice.org3 directoy where I should be able to find the  
executables.




Did you try :

cd $ROOT_SRC/instsetoo_native

find . -name soffice

- if the build is correct, you should have the exact location of the  
script soffice to be run to launch OpenOffice.org



Please note that you can receive help this way :

install, an IRC client

join the #education.openoffice.org IRC channel ( server is  
irc.freenode.net )


ask directly : if somebody is present, you should receive help  ;-)



I've been checking what happens during the build process. Towards  
the ends of the build, I get an $LOCALINSTALLDIR_inprogress dir that
contains 2 directories: openoffice.org and openoffice.org3 which  
seems fine, but than in the last part of the build process, some  
script
kicks in and removes the openoffice.org3 directory. Have you got  
any clue as to why this is happening and how I can solve this?


I've been reading the various wiki pages for how to build this  
including the ErAck/Workflow but I cannot get this working right.


Any help will be apreciated. I'll also try to hang in
#dev.openoffice.org for a while.



Or try with #education.openoffice.org  ;-)
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Re: [dev] Was : problem building comphelper on MIPS

2010-03-19 Thread eric

Hi Felix,


Sorry for the long delay, but I'm back to the issue, because I need to 
fix it.


Please ignore what I wrote if you already fixed the issue, and if so, 
please tell me how (I di't fix it correctly yet).



Zhang Xiaofei a écrit :


For people who don't know, I'm colleague of the author of the original


message, we build on Fuloong Minis, which has same processors as Gdium
machines has.

I observed the build output and found the switch still in use. The -fpic
switch may have been moved to soleenv/inc/unxlng.mk in the fix of i89237
Unify the linux .mk files. If that's the case I guess there's other issues
causing the breakage.


Maybe, maybe not.

About optimisation, what I have remarked, that the default value is
CDEFAULTOPT*=-O2  in solenv/inc/unxlngx.mk

And in solenv/inc/unxlngmips.mk, there is :
CDEFAULTOPT=-Os

Like Caolan explained.

Now, reading gcc documentation, I found that the last value passed wins. 
So we can consider the CDEFAULTOPT*=-O2 wins, because  -Os is written 
before the include unxlng.mk (if I'm not wrong) in unxlngmips.mk.


This could explain the new behavior too.


Till now we have tested DEV300_m58 and DEV300_m60, the breakage took place
in the latter but not the former one.


Confirmed.


By the way we tried the following workaround: adding -mips2 (or -mips3) for
gcc globally, the build could continue but office will crash with SIGBUS,


Yes, I confirm the build work for me in comphelper too using -mips3, but 
use -mips3 is imho not the right option, because (yet reading the 
documentation) mips3 is for 64 bits, and we do 32 bits chroot with linux32.


In fact, to save time, I started the build using mips3 and I started 
reading the documentation in meantime ( bad move  ;-) , but once I'll 
have verified the build is ok, I'll restart one using


-march=mips32

Did you try that one ? (I didn't saw it in the build, but maybe I was 
blind). Or maybe thre is a better one ?




this can be solved by using configure --with-alloc=system as another
workaround.


Yes, but the root is imho elsewhere, and it really worth to read the 
full gcc documentation, because mips(el there) seems to have a *lot* of 
possiblities (really nice proc imho).


As conclusion, for me, some gcc option has been modified, and since 
there is an optimisation issue, or maybe we simply hit a missing 
parameter ( like -march=aValue )


To be continued

Thanks,
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[dev] Next Education Project IRC meeting : monday 15th March 2010

2010-03-11 Thread eric b

Hello,


... and if no change occurs, the hour will be :  19h30 ( UTC) i.e.  
20h30  (CET)


For the Agenda, please see : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Education_Project/communicate/IRC#Next_Meeting


Channel : #education.openoffice.org
Server : irc.freenode.net


See you !

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Re: [dev] Was : problem building comphelper on MIPS

2010-02-05 Thread eric b


Le 5 févr. 10 à 09:03, Zhang Xiaofei a écrit :


Hi Eric and all,



Hi Felix,



For people who don't know, I'm colleague of the author of the  
original

message, we build on Fuloong Minis, which has same processors as Gdium
machines has.




Ok.

I observed the build output and found the switch still in use. The - 
fpic
switch may have been moved to soleenv/inc/unxlng.mk in the fix of  
i89237
Unify the linux .mk files. If that's the case I guess there's  
other issues

causing the breakage.



Yes you are right. In fact, after some investigations, solenv was  
heavily modified, and we'll have to track everything.



Till now we have tested DEV300_m58 and DEV300_m60, the breakage  
took place in the latter but not the former one.




m59 has dv14 (serious candidate for something interesting), and some  
other tracks. I'll continue to search what is causing the breakage.  
Looks like a default environment variable (mips port is maybe not  
complete) or something not mips adapted (to be hones, I have no clear  
idea in fact).



By the way we tried the following workaround: adding -mips2 (or - 
mips3) for gcc globally, the build could continue but office will  
crash with SIGBUS,
this can be solved by using configure --with-alloc=system as  
another workaround.




This has to be investigated. Whet change(s) introduce -mips2 /  - 
mips3  flags btw ?  Is there a link where all this is described ?  
Thanks in advance  :-)


From my side, I'll continue to analyze the differences in solenv.  
Let's cross the fingers :)



Eric


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Re: [dev] Was : problem building comphelper on MIPS

2010-02-05 Thread eric b

Hi Caolan,

Le 5 févr. 10 à 10:05, Caolán McNamara a écrit :


On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 07:48 +0100, eric b wrote:

The first thing I found was a missing -fpic flag in the solenv/inc/
unxlngmips.mk


-fpic is not missing from unxlngmips.mk. unxlngmips.mk inherits  
from unxlng.mk and unxlng.mk defaults to -fpic for PICSWITCH so  
unless it
needs to use e.g. -fPIC then PICSWITCH doesn't need to be  
overridden in




Exact. My mistake:  I missed it, when I compared the build in both  
cases.


Another difference I noticed (if I'm not wrong) is , in m57 we use  - 
DC300 ( -DC341 in OOO320 ) , and -DCVER300 (nothing similar in the  
OOO320), but I can be wrong.


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Re: [dev] Was : problem building comphelper on MIPS

2010-02-05 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 5 févr. 10 à 10:15, Caolán McNamara a écrit :


On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 09:19 +0100, eric b wrote:

Till now we have tested DEV300_m58 and DEV300_m60, the breakage
took place in the latter but not the former one.


And it was *definitely* the same compiler and tool chain used in  
both cases right ? And the error in question is ...




Exactly  :  both tree on the same machine : rebuild comphelper with  
DEV300_m57, and DEV300_m58 is ok.


Starting m60 - you have the issue below


comphelper/source/container/enumerablemap.cxx
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:714: Error: opcode not supported on this  
processor: mips1

(mips1) `ll $3,8($4)'

This massively looks like a toolchain issue to me



To me too

and not an OOo one. e.g. binutils/gcc target mismatch or some foo  
like that.


Well, this must be investigated anyway. I'd better vote for one  
option like all linux by default or something like that. But again,  
I can be wrong : I work on that just a little time per day, in my  
free time.



I imagine that we're talking about the normal mips o32 abi  
right ?, the one that gcc defaults to out of the box for mips-linux-.




Yes, we are. I do the chroot (linux32) like you suggested, and it was  
working fine. Until one change I ignore.




There shouldn't be anything really different about mips during the  
build until bridges and the bridge test in testtools. e.g. there is

nothing in comphelper that has any mips specific stuff in there.



The issue occurs in compheelper, but we agree the root is not in  
comphelper. A t least, this is obvious for me.



Thanks for your time :)

Eric


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[dev] Was : problem building comphelper on MIPS

2010-02-03 Thread eric b

Hi,


Sorry, I missed the original message, but I'll try to answer to the  
original message, who is : http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg? 
listName=devmsgNo=26295


First, I got the same issue, and I'm working on it too :  
OpenOffice.org can no longer be built on it, and the breakage occured  
between DEV300_m57 and OOO320_m12, but was very probably introduced  
in m58 or m59.



Some details about the background now :

Gdium foundation donated me a machine running a loongson processor.  
Since this machine is not powerfull, I prefered to port OOo4Kids on  
it, instead of OpenOffice.org. (but everything is similar in the  
build process, just more simple for OOo4Kids than OpenOffice.org).


What I know is the (obsolete) OOo4Kids based on DEV300_m57 ( before  
important changes for 3.2.0 ) builds, and works perfectly.
Since OOo4Kids has been rebased with DEV300_m12, and the build is  
broken (only on Mips, curiously).



The first thing I found was a missing -fpic flag in the solenv/inc/ 
unxlngmips.mk, but I fear little other issues like that could cause  
the breakage.
So, I can imagine  the issue could be caused by some performance  
changes (good candidate, integration started around mDEV300_m58),  
probably applied by default to all Linux or something like that  
(just a wild guess). Investigating.


Of course, anybody is welcome to help us, and any information will  
help too  :-)



Thanks in advance,
Eric Bachard

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Re: [dev] Change the cursor's size (all office)

2010-02-02 Thread eric b

Hi Philipp,


Le 30 janv. 10 à 13:16, Philipp Lohmann a écrit :

Actually you should change the cursor width setting in vcl/source/ 
app/settings.cxx line 421; exhange

mnCursorSize = 2;

by a larger value.



With my first try, just after your mail, it was not, and I thought to  
retry later. So, I retried today, before to answer you -with the idea  
to say it was not working - , and ... it's ok now :-)


So it was certainly my fault.

Indeed, this is more clean, and it works as expected.


Thank you very much !



Be advised, that on Windows this setting will be overwritten by the  
system setting from DEV300m71 on.





Thanks again for the information, I'll take care.



Kind regards,
Eric



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Re: [dev] Change the cursor's size (all office)

2010-01-30 Thread eric b

Answering to myself,

Le 30 janv. 10 à 08:39, eric b a écrit :


Hello,
For children, I'd like to have the cursor bigger (only the cursor),  
for all platform and in the whole application.
Something like  ( 2 x height ) by ( 2 x width ) would be perfect. I  
found some tracks in vcl, but I'm unsure.


What I need is just some indications, and if one could tell me  
globally what has to be done, it would be perfect. Thaks in advance !!



... in meantime, I found : svtools/source/edit/textview.cxx

Looks promising :)


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[dev] Change the cursor's size (all office)

2010-01-30 Thread eric b

Answering me again

Le 30 janv. 10 à 09:24, eric b a écrit :

... in meantime, I found : svtools/source/edit/textview.cxx

Looks promising :)



After more investigation  (OpenGrok is great btw ! ), I  was plain  
wrong and a better place was in vcl/source/window/cursor.cxx
The code below solved the cursor in the text editor, but in fact, the  
cursors I'd like to modify are the system one. e.g. the classical  
arrow, or the pen with Impress .. and so on.


So my new question is : Is the only way to use bigger cursors (all  
platforms),  provide new bigger .png .. or ?



Thanks,
Eric Bachard


Index: vcl/source/window/cursor.cxx
===
--- vcl/source/window/cursor.cxx(revision 384)
+++ vcl/source/window/cursor.cxx(working copy)
@@ -57,6 +57,7 @@

 //  
===


+
 static void ImplCursorInvert( ImplCursorData* pData )
 {
Window* pWindow  = pData-mpWindow;
@@ -67,8 +68,14 @@
nInvertStyle = INVERT_50;
else
nInvertStyle = 0;
-
+#ifdef OOo4Kids
+   Size aNewPixSize;
+   aNewPixSize.setWidth(  2 * pData-maPixSize.getWidth() );
+   aNewPixSize.setHeight ( pData-maPixSize.getHeight() ); //  
increase height is a bad idea

+   Rectangle aRect( pData-maPixPos, aNewPixSize );
+#else
Rectangle aRect( pData-maPixPos, pData-maPixSize );
+#endif
if ( pData-mnDirection || pData-mnOrientation || pData- 
mnPixSlant )

{
Polygon aPoly( aRect );


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[dev] Change the cursor's size (all office)

2010-01-29 Thread eric b

Hello,


For children, I'd like to have the cursor bigger (only the cursor),  
for all platform and in the whole application.


Something like  ( 2 x height ) by ( 2 x width ) would be perfect. I  
found some tracks in vcl, but I'm unsure.



What I need is just some indications, and if one could tell me  
globally what has to be done, it would be perfect. Thaks in advance !!



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Re: [dev] How to build the openoffice from the src?

2010-01-12 Thread eric b

Le 12 janv. 10 à 09:07, 周文斌 a écrit :


Hello,



Hello,

  I am a student, I want to know how to build the openoffice from  
the src file? I have downloaded the src files, and I executed the  
command ./configure, successful,



Ok


but execute the command make , lots of errors appeared.


Currently, we use dmake tool, and there is another step before to  
build OOo : 1) ./bootstrap  (will buiild dmake) 2) source the  
environment file, built during configure


But to help you more efficiently, can you please paste some of them ?



Can you tell me the step of build the openoffice or give a  
reference guide? My Linux OS is Fedora 10. Thank you very much.


Before, it is important to provide us more information : from where  
you downloaded the sources e.g.


ELse, you'll find a lof of information on the OpenOffice.org wiki :  
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org




   I am looking forward to hearing form you.


FYI, there is a place where we welcome beginners, mostly students :  
this is the Education Project. The fisrt sthing you'll have to do, is  
to subscribe to the d...@education.openoffice.org ( just send a dev- 
subscr...@education.openoffice.org and confirm will be enough).


Once done : send a mail and ask : we'll answer you, even very simple  
questions (this is one of the purpose of the list, avoiding to  
disturb the dev@ one with repeated questions).


Other possibility is IRC :  server is irc.freenode.net  channel :  
#education.openoffice.org



See you !!

Eric Bachard



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Re: [dev] --enable-crashdump=STATIC

2010-01-06 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 6 janv. 10 à 10:42, Caolán McNamara a écrit :


Also presumably the -lXext -lX11 for MacosX is bogus as well etc.



You're right : it was correct in the X11 times. Today, everything X11  
is completely obsolete in the sources.



Regards,
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[dev] [Announce] Education Project : reactivation of the us...@education mailing list

2009-12-29 Thread eric b

Hello,


After two years of an intense activity of the french part of the  
education.openoffice.org project, we are ready to reactivate this  
international list : this is one of our objectives for 2010 !!


To subscribe, just send a mail at  : users-subscr...@openoffice.org   
confirm, and that's all : you can start contributing to the Education  
Project !!
To become a member, please follow the instructions provided there :  
http://education.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMemberList



Education Project aims to create a bridge between Educational World  
and OpenOffice.org Project, following 3 axes :


- create a network of teachers, using OpenOffice.org
- provide a sharing area
- provide new developers, and spread OpenOffice.org source code

Currently, this project counts around 110 members, but everybody is  
welcome, and there is so much to do, that any contribution is wamrly  
welcome too !!


Everybody is welcome : teachers, students, just curious :)

For the one willing to help us, we need people able to help us for  
the website, translate, manage the wiki, but not only (the list is  
not limited).
Other need is to compare, work together (collaborative work), and  
concatenate informations providing from several educational systems,  
and of course, share our knowledge.


Be welcome, and Seasonal Greatings to all of you !!

Eric Bachard
Lead,
OpenOffice.org Education Project


Below, several links, will help you to understand what we do, and more :

Official OpenOffice.org Education Project website : http:// 
education.openoffice.org
Education Project Wiki page : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/ 
wiki/Education_Project


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[dev] Re: [users] Re: [Announce] Education Project : reactivation of the us...@education mailing list

2009-12-29 Thread eric b

Le 29 déc. 09 à 19:47, Larry Gusaas a écrit :


To subscribe, just send a mail at  : users- 
subscr...@openoffice.org  confirm, and that's all : you can start  
contributing to the Education Project !!


Don't you mean users-subscr...@education.openoffice.org ?




OOops, my bad : the right address is indeed :  users- 
subscr...@education.openoffice.org


Thank you very much for your help !!


Seasonal Greatings to all of you !!


Eric Bachard
Lead,
OpenOffice.org Education Project

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Re: [dev] dmake: Error: -- Configuration file /usr/local/share/startup/startup.mk not found

2009-11-19 Thread eric b


Le 18 nov. 09 à 20:55, Albretch Mueller a écrit :


 Hi

 I finished running configure and bootstrap, but dmake is stumbing on:

dmake:  Error: -- Configuration file
`/usr/local/share/startup/startup.mk' not found

 startup.mk seems to be there:




Just a wild guess ... did you do  source LinuxX86Set.Env.sh  (or a  
name close of that ) in the $SRC dir ?   Note :  use only the one  
with the end is .sh if your shell is bash


If you forgot, the build environment the configure helped to create,  
will not be used (all the usefull environment variables are in the  
file above).



Regards,
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Re: [dev] configure: error: Failed to find some (perl) modules

2009-11-15 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 15 nov. 09 à 01:17, Albretch Mueller a écrit :


checking for required Perl modules... Can't locate Archive/Zip.pm in
@INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8



[...cut..]


BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1.
configure: error: Failed to find some modules

 I thought --enable-verbosity was going to give me more information



Not sure this will help


 but there are a lot of packages here: http://packages.debian.org/ 
stable/perl/

 which ones do I need to install in order to configure OO?




I'd suggest you to install libarchive-zip-perl

( at least that's what apt-cache search answered me )




 Thank you


You're welcome

Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] [ClassRoom] mercurial ClassRoom

2009-11-11 Thread eric b

Hi Marcus,


Le 11 nov. 09 à 14:46, Marcus Silva a écrit :


date=11/11/2009
time?



Sorry for the missing hour.

The ClassRoom will be at 17:00 CET ( Paris Hamburg hour ),   UTC/GMT  
-4 hours  (will be at 12:00 for Rio hour if I'm not wrong)



See : http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/ 
cet.html



Regards,
Eric Bachard
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[dev] Re: [council-discuss] election machinery (was Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Election)

2009-10-31 Thread eric b

Hi,

just a question :

In the first pahsis of the process, Alexandro Colorado nominateed me,  
for the Code representative seat. What I refused, for good personal  
reasons, i.e. I'm not candidate.


And in the list Louis published, I don't see I was nominated at all.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I see a difference between a  
nominee (can be proposed without being informed if not subscribed the  
right list) , and a candidate, who activaly accepted.



I think what will be retained is not what really happened, and I  
think this is not respecftull for Alexandro and me, and worse, does  
not provide a good image ot your 'elections process'.



Thanks in advance for the clarification


Eric Bachard
Lead
OpenOffice.org Education Project



Le 31 oct. 09 à 09:54, Stefan Taxhet a écrit :


Hi,

Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:

On 2009-10-30, at 16:07 , Stefan Taxhet wrote:

The 3 surveys are now ready to be started.
I would like to create accounts and/or grant access for the  
observers and you so that you can follow the progress.

Thanks.
Go ahead and send a message to the lists notifying people that  
the 2 weeks voting period starts. Then I'll immediately initiate  
that voters get the invitations with the URL.
But do we agree then that we must follow, for this election, the 2  
week period? It is codified in the Process and so I'd say, yes.


Let's go with the given timeframe. For observers there is always  
the chance to see whether the election is decided...



But do the Council members agree?


At least I do ;-)

Greetings
Stefan

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Re: [dev] Re: [council-discuss] election machinery (was Re: [council-discuss] Call for Nominations for Community Council Election)

2009-10-31 Thread eric b

Hi Andre,


Le 31 oct. 09 à 10:19, André Schnabel a écrit :


I think what will be retained is not what really happened, and I  
think this is not respecftull for Alexandro and me, and worse,  
does not provide a good image ot your 'elections process'.


I don't get your point - really. Interested people already know the  
story,


You always disagree with my point of view, I know, but that's not the  
point. The point is the process must respect people, and my feeling  
is, this is not the case.
But you are right to talk about a story, when I see how many time it  
took to organize these elections :-)


Anyway, thanks for the explanation, and good luck to the new CC.

Eric Bachard


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[dev] Re: [council-discuss] Preparing the council elections

2009-10-29 Thread eric b

Hi Martin,

Reading the list, I no longer see my name ?


Shall I consider I'm no longer considered as an active contributor  
of the OpenOffice.org Project ?



Thanks,
Eric Bachard


Le 29 oct. 09 à 09:37, Martin Hollmichel a écrit :

Here's the list of active contributors for the time between  
29.4.2009 and 29.10.2009:


1. Andre Fisher (af)
2. Andreas Bregas (ab)
3. Armin Le Grand (aw)
4. Bjoern Michaelsen (b_michaelsen)
5. Carsten Driesner (cd)
6. Cedric (cedricbosdo)
7. Christian Lippka (cl)
8. Christian Lohmeyer (cloph)
9. Caolan McNamara (cmc)
10. Daniel Rentz (dr)
11. Dirk Voelzke (dv)
12. Eike Rathke (er)
13. Florian Heckl (fheckl)
14. Frank Schoeheit (fs)
15. Fredrik Haegg (fha)
16. Hans-Joachim (Ause) Lankenau (hjs)
17. Herbert Duerr (hdu)
18. Helge Delfs (hde)
19. Henning Brinkmann (hbrinkm)
20. Ingo Schmidt (is)
21. Ingrid Halama (iha)
22. Ivo Hinkelmann (ihi)
23. Jens-Heiner Rechtien (hr)
24. Joachim Lingner (jl)
25. Joerg Skottke (jsk)
26. Juergen Schmidt (jsc)
27. Kai Ahrens (ka)
28. Kai Sommerfeld (kso)
29. Jan Holešovský (kendy)
30. Kohei Yoshida (kohei)
31. Kurt Zenker (kz)
32. Lars Langhans (lla)
33. Malte Timmermann (mt)
34. Marc Neumann (msc)
35. Marcus Lange (mla)
36. Martin Hollmichel (mh)
37. Mathias Bauer (mba)
38. Matthias Huetsch (mhu)
39. Michael E. Bohn (mbn)
40. Mihaela Kedikova (misheto)
41. Mikhail Voytenko (mav)
42. Max Odendahl (mod)
43. Mox Soini (mox)
44. Michael Stahl (mst)
45. Niklas Nebel (nn)
46. Nikolai Pretzell (np)
47. Ocke Janssen (oj)
48. Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (od)
49. Oliver Bolte (obo)
50. Oliver Craemer (oc)
51. Oliver Specht (os)
52. Pierre Pasteau (pastea_p)
53. Philipp Lohmann (pl)
54. Rene Engelhard (rene)
55. Ruediger Timm (rt)
56. Stefan Baltzer (sba)
57. Steffen Grund (sg)
58. Stephan Bergmann (sb)
59. Sven Jacobi (sj)
60. Thorsten Bosbach (tbo)
61. Thomas Lange (tl)
62. Tobias Krause (tkr)
63. Takashi Ono (tono)
64. Uwe Fischer (ufi)
65. Vladimir Glazounov (vg)
66. Wolfram Garten (wg)
67. Yan Wu(wuy)
68. Yuri Dario(ydario)

Martin

Martin Hollmichel wrote:

Hi,

I just did the query in EIS for the owners of intergrated child
workspaces after October 30th 2008 and before May 1st 2009, here's my
list, I'm happy if there are volunteers for review,


Volker Ahrendt (va)
Eric Bachard (ericb)
Mathias Bauer (mba)
Thorsten Behrens (thb)
Stephan Bergmann (sb)
Thomas Benisch (tbe)
Andreas Bregas (ab)
Henning Brinkmann (hbrinkm)
Oliver Bolte (obo)
Thorsten Bosbach (tbo)
Joerg Budischewski (jbu)
Hans-Peter Burow (pb)
Oliver Craemer (oc)
Yuri Dario (ydario)
Helge Delfs (hde)
Carsten Driesner (cd)
Herber Duerr (hdu)
Bernd Eilers (bei)
Rene Engelhard (rene)
Andre Fischer (af)
Uwe Fischer (ufi)
Wolfram Garten (wg)
Vladimir Glazounov (vg)
Frederik Haegg (fha)
Ingrid Halama (iha)
Florian Heckl (fheckl)
Ivo Hinkelmann (ihi)
Martin Hollmichel (mh)
Jan Holešovský (kendy)
Matthias Huetsch (mhu)
Karl Hong (khong)
Sven Jacobi (sj)
Ocke Janssen (oj)
Tobias Krause (tkr)
Lars Langhans (lla)
Németh László (nemeth)
Thomas Lange (tl)
Hans-Joachim Lankenau (hjs)
Armin LeGrand (aw)
Joachim Lingner (jl)
Christian Lippka (cl)
Christian Lins (christianlins)
Philipp Lohmann (pl)
Christian Lohmeyer (cloph)
Nakata Maho (maho)
Andreas Martens (ama)
Caolán McNamara (cmc)
Frank Meies (fme)
Bjoern Michaelsen (b_michaelsen)
Niklas Nebel (nn)
Christoph Neumann (cn)
Marc Neumann (msc)
Maximilian Odendahl (mod)
Takashi Ono (tono)
Noel Power (npower)
Eike Rathke (er)
Jens-Heiner Rechtien (hr)
Daniel Rentz (dr)
Hennes Rohling (hro)
Andreas Schluens (as)
Ingo Schmidt (is)
Juergen Schmidt (jsc)
Frank Schoenheit (fs)
Joerg Skottke (jsk)
Mox Soini (mox)
Kai Sommerfeld (kso)
Oliver Specht (os)
Michael Stahl (mst)
Ruediger Timm (rt)
Malte Timmermann (mt)
Dirk Voelzke (dv)
Mikhail Voitenko (mav)
Robert Vojta (rvojta)
Jim Watson (sparzmoz)
Oliver Rainer Wittmann (od)
Kohei Yoshida (kohei)
Kurt Zenker (kz)


Martin


Andre Schnabel wrote:

Hi,

to prepare the council elections I set up a wiki page at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Community_Council/ 
Elections/200904



Before we can start with the announcement, we still have some  
things to do:


- define the commisionaries for each election
In the wiki I proposed Sophie, Louis and me. Sophie already  
agreed to be available, I can surely do it, Louis did not respond  
yet. Any volunteers on this? (I think, I can also do 2 elections)


- define the observers
for each election we need to have two observers. I'd like to ask  
the community to help with this. If no one objects I'm going to  
send a call for help to some lists later this week.


- get the list of active developers
For the code contributor election we need to get the list of  
active developers. I hope, Martin (or someone else?) can provide  
this. I don't know, if we can get this list from EIS.


- verify list of project leads
We need the current list of project leads. Unless no one else can  
confirm, that the current web pages are up to date, I'm going to  
ask the project

Re: [dev] OpenOffice.org Wiki Categories

2009-10-28 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 28 oct. 09 à 15:04, Cor Nouws a écrit :


Hi Bjoern,

bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany wrote  
(26-10-2009 12:59)

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:MainIndex
Comments?


Good job :-)

Taking profit from your discussion with Juergen, I would suggest as  
main categories:

- Development of OpenOffice.org
- Development with OpenOffice.org
- Marketing
- NLC
- Project
- Wiki

Few remarks:
- currently, Documentation is both main category and sub category  
of Project.

- currently Performance is both under Development and Project.
- API, Extensions should be under Development with OpenOffice.org
- ODFToolkit maybe as main category (after all it is http:// 
odftoolkit.org/ as very main ;-) )




And Education ?

Regards,
Eric


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[dev] Re: [OOoCon 2009] OOo4Kids and Education Project : presentations canceled

2009-10-27 Thread eric b

Le 27 oct. 09 à 10:28, Davide Dozza a écrit :


Eric,



Hello Davide,



eric.bachard ha scritto:

Hi John,

John McCreesh a écrit :
There is still time to apply for the Euro 300 bursary if that is  
any help

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OOoCon2009_Bursaries


Thanks a lot for your concern, but I won't apply.

Please help other people, who certainly need more than me.


from your post it seemed you needed funds for participating.



Indeed. One week ago (the 20th October), on my blog, I invited people  
to donate, to avoid the cancelation : http://download.ooo4kids.org/en/ 
Donate  (all funds go to the EducOOo association, dedicated to the  
OpenOffice.org Education Project)


In fact, it was -probably- already too late, and I should have posted  
before (too busy, my fault). Since, I verified yesterday : the  
EducOOo (our non profit association) received less than 300 euros.  
The fact is, the npa received not enough to help me, so my  
participation is canceled.


That's completely normal.



Moreover your presentations were rather interesting.



Thank you very much :-)

Nevertheless, my absence is not that important : if you have  
questions, or whatever, you can use the d...@education.openoffice.org  
list, or ask us directly on IRC, and I'll be glad to answer you  
anything I can.




It's really a pity you don't want to come.




I'm not sure to well understand what you wrote -probably my bad  
english- but I assume I do not want to pay for contribute : more than  
310 days over 365 a year counts, you can reach me on IRC, where I  
help students, discuss code, work on the Education Project, and do my  
best to contribute, and share.


That's enough for me.


Now, if we (the association) did not receive anything (I mean  
donations) in return, it simply means that what we do is wrong, or  
not what the people expect, and maybe it's time to stop.


For the one who have the memory, it was exactly the same last year  
( OOoCon 2008, Beijin), with the difference I didn't apply. Strange,  
nobody considered I had some important role to play (while I was  
doing exactly the same). Yet another reason to not consider this  
annulation as something important. Just sad, nothing more.


At least this will make some students who will inherit of the slots  
happy :)


End of topic for me.


Regards,
Eric Bachard

Lead,
OpenOffice.org Education Project

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[dev] Next Education Projeect IRC meeting : thursday 15th October

2009-10-14 Thread eric b

Hello,

This is a reminder,

The next IRC meeting will occur tomorrow, thursday 15th of October,  
16:00 ( UTC),  or 18:00 ( CEST hour, i.e. Paris Hamburg hour)



Everybody is welcome and can attend at : Channel :  
#education.openoffice.org , server : irc.freenode.net


For further information, please have a look at the agenda : http:// 
wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_IRC_meetings



See you tomorrow !
Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] boostrap issue with Bootstrap::getFrom()

2009-10-03 Thread eric b

Hi Stephan,

Sorry for the delay,

Le 1 oct. 09 à 09:33, Stephan Bergmann a écrit :


On 10/01/09 00:46, eric b wrote:

rtl::OUString aUserConfigFile;
rtl::OUString aIniPath;
// read the content of bootstraprc is necessary to find the  
path to the user configuration file

// ~/.ooo4kids/0.6/user/OOo4Kidsrc.txt
Bootstrap::get( rtl::OUString( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM 
( BRAND_BASE_DIR) ), aIniPath );
aIniPath += rtl::OUString( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM( / 
program/ SAL_CONFIGFILE( bootstrap ) ) );

Bootstrap aBootstrap(aIniPath);
aBootstrap.getFrom( rtl::OUString( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM 
(OOo4KidsIntegrationUserFile) ), aUserConfigFile );


Yes, and you can condense that to

rtl::OUString aUserConfigFile(
  RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM(
${$BRAND_BASE_DIR/program/ SAL_CONFIGFILE(bootstrap)
:OOo4KidsIntegrationUserFile}));
Bootstrap::expandMacros(aUserConfigFile);




Ok, I'll give it a try asap (got a Linux PowerPC at hand). I'll  
confirm it's ok too.




(my previous attempt at writing that down had a number of typos)



Well, I do myself lot of typos, and didn't care too much : what  
helped me was not in the code itself, but in the explanation ;)



Regards,
Eric

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[dev] boostrap issue with Bootstrap::getFrom()

2009-09-30 Thread eric b

Hi,

To customize the UI on powerless machines (like XO), I adapted a  
change I did on Mac OS X some years ago. The idea is to provide  
configuration files, to allow the customization (we'll probably have  
one dedicated for the XO). If the user config file is not found,  
we'll use one in presets ( $OOO_BASE_DIR/presets ).


But I got a problem with Bootstrap::getFrom() and I wonder what  
exactly happens ... Here is what I do :



1) in bootstraprc, I added the entries (Linux and OOo4Kids only)  
taken from scp2 patch :


+Key = OOo4KidsIntegrationUserFile;
+Value = $UserInstallation/user/ooo4kidsrc.txt;

+Key = OOo4KidsIntegrationDefaultFile;
+Value = ${OOO_BASE_DIR}/presets/ooo4kidsrc.txt;

- verified ok, the boostraprc file does contain both after the  
installation. Means if the first entry is wrong, the fallback is ok  
(and tested ok)



2) And in vcl/unx/gdi/ooo4kidsint.cxx I do :

rtl::OUString aUserConfigFile;
rtl::OUString aDefaultConfigFile;
rtl::OUString aTryFiles[2];

// read the content of bootstraprc is necessary to find the path  
to the user configuration file ~/.ooo4kids/0.6/user/OOo4kidsrc.txt
rtl::Bootstrap aBootstrap( rtl::OUString 
( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM(bootstraprc) ) );


   // retrieve the config files
if( aBootstrap.getFrom( rtl::OUString 
( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM(OOo4KidsIntegrationUserFile) ),  
aUserConfigFile  ) )

osl::FileBase::getSystemPathFromFileURL(aUserConfigFile, aTryFiles[0]);

// Use that means OOo4Kidsrc.txt is not found in user install  
dir, and we fallback to the second OOo4Kidsrc.txt (with default values)
if( aBootstrap.getFrom( rtl::OUString 
( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM(OOo4KidsIntegrationDefaultFile) ),  
aDefaultConfigFile ) )
osl::FileBase::getSystemPathFromFileURL(aDefaultConfigFile,  
aTryFiles[1]);



No problem at build nor at install times : the config files are  
copied at the right place, and the install dir is ok (else the binary  
does not launch)


But it does not work:
- tracing the lines say that the string do not appear, means  
something is wrong perhaps with Bootstrap_Impl somewhere ...
- or can this be some STRINGPARAM / USTRINGPARAM mismatch who caused  
the issue ? (boostrap.cxx  uses both USTRINGPARAM and STRINGPARAM,  
maibe some issue with that)
- worse:  adding symbols in sal told me everything is pushed ok early  
at launch, but tracing in vcl, the strings are empty ? hmmm ... :-/



More odd, I found a way to make it (artificialy) work : using  
Midnight Commander, that's ok, and everything is found, and works as  
expected, and I can customize what I want.


.. that's all for now in my investigations.


Last but not least:  maybe there is a better way to implement such  
feature ? Thanks in advance for any help :-)



Eric Bachard



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Re: [dev] boostrap issue with Bootstrap::getFrom()

2009-09-30 Thread eric b

Hi Stephan,


Le 30 sept. 09 à 14:54, Stephan Bergmann a écrit :


I guess rtl::Bootstrap needs an absolute file URL for the bootstrap  
ini-file (if your Midnight Commander has OOo's brand program dir as  
current working dir, that might explain why this relative URL  
magically happens to work then).



Yes, you're right : I had something like that in mind, but you find  
the right words. To add information, I think I simply did not  
intialize things as expected. Proceeeding differently helped me to  
solve the issue.




  Also note that ini-files have different names on different  
platforms (boostraprc vs. bootstrap.ini).



Sorry, I forgot : only Linux is concerned : on Mac OS X, I keep the  
Aqua look, same on Windows.


But Linux depends on Gnome or KDE, and this is too heavy to add  
that : that's the reason why I searched -sort of- compromise look/perf




What you want to do should be something like the following  
(untested, just hacked this in from memory!):


rtl::OUString aUserConfigFile(RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM 
({$BRAND_BASE_DIR/program SAL_INIFILENAME(bootstrap)  
:OOo4KidsIntegrationUserFile}));

rtl::Bootstrap::expand(aUserConfigFile);



Yes, that was the idea. In fact, was my fault (see the code I used  
below).


I didn't find expand, but expandMacro instead ( who givers  the  
file:///... bla result )



if (aUserConfigFile.getLength() != 0)  
osl::FileBase::getSystemPathFromFileURL(aUserConfigFile, aTryFiles 
[0]);




Yes this test is better imho than the previous one I used.


Here is what I did (woks perfectly on Linux PowerPC, so on most of  
the m IMHO :).


The trick was to get the bootstrap file first and then to instantiate  
the Bootstrap, using it. Once that was working, I completed the rest  
easely.



rtl::OUString aUserConfigFile;
rtl::OUString aDefaultConfigFile;
rtl::OUString aTryFiles[2];
rtl::OUString aIniPath;

// read the content of bootstraprc is necessary to find the path  
to the user configuration file

// ~/.ooo4kids/0.6/user/OOo4Kidsrc.txt
Bootstrap::get( rtl::OUString( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM 
( BRAND_BASE_DIR) ), aIniPath );
aIniPath += rtl::OUString( 	RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM( / 
program/ SAL_CONFIGFILE( bootstrap ) ) );


Bootstrap aBootstrap(aIniPath);
aBootstrap.getFrom( rtl::OUString( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM 
(OOo4KidsIntegrationUserFile) ), aUserConfigFile );


if (aUserConfigFile.getLength() != 0)
	osl::FileBase::getSystemPathFromFileURL( aUserConfigFile, aTryFiles 
[0]);


// if OOo4Kidsrc.txt is not found in user install dir, fallback  
to the second OOo4Kidsrc.txt (with default values), located in  
install_dir/presets
aBootstrap.getFrom( rtl::OUString( RTL_CONSTASCII_USTRINGPARAM 
(OOo4KidsIntegrationDefaultFile) ), aDefaultConfigFile );
osl::FileBase::getSystemPathFromFileURL(aDefaultConfigFile,  
aTryFiles[1]);








and similarly for the DefaultFile.



So did I :)


Thanks a lot for your help, that I really appreciated !!

Eric

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Re: [dev] Dropping tcsh support for Mac (all?) / changing configure's default

2009-09-25 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 25 sept. 09 à 13:42, Christian Lohmaier a écrit :


The default login shell for Mac OS X is bash, so it definitely is
available and it is proven to work without problems (Pavel builds with
bash for years, so do I on all systems)



FYI there were other people building OOo on Mac OS X before you :-)


And yes, the tcsh was a nightmare.


+1 for dropping tcsh support, at least on Mac OS X ( IIRC, only Mac  
OS X is concerned, isn't it ?)



Eric


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[dev] Re: [project leads] Re: [dev] Proposal : OOo4Kids as official part of OpenOffice.org Project

2009-08-10 Thread eric b
 need to tell you more, to convince you there is nothing  
distracting he OOo4Kids from it's original goal ?


Of course, we are far from something perfect, and what is missing, is  
volunteers (including people taking responsabilities), money, and a  
better involvement from the OpenOffice.org developers (more would  
really help), to help the Education Project. A good track could be to  
continue the ClassRooms, and so on, but that's another debate ..



Regards,

Eric Bachard
Lead,
OpenOffice.org Education Project

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Re: [dev] Interested in helping with development

2009-07-16 Thread eric b

Hi Terence,

Le 16 juil. 09 à 18:02, Terrence Miller a écrit :

I was laid-off from Sun's C++ compiler team last year and have not  
yet found a new job.
To avoid going crazy with nothing to do I would like to become  
involved with Open Office.


Low level C++ issues such as exception handling is the area I know  
the most about. I have

access to systems running Windows XP and Ubuntu Linux.




If you are not affraid with IRC, you can contact us on IRC, on  
#education.openoffice.org channel (server is irc.freenode.net ). I'm  
there until tomorrow, and we'll be glad to answer your questions, but  
waiting I'll be back from hollidays, other will certainly be glad to  
help you.


FYI, we can help you to build OOo on all OS (Windows, Mac OS X and  
Linux), discover how things work, and start with debugging (using gdb).


See you :)
Eric Bachard

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Re: [dev] Consolidating build instructions for the community

2009-07-15 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 15 juil. 09 à 22:43, Per Eriksson a écrit :




I have another view there, which is why founded this initiative.
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Development/ 
Simplifying_entry_for_new_developers



FYI, one of the goals of the Education Project, is to welcome  
newcomers (mainly students), and simplify the entry for new developers.


Are you aware ?

Eric Bachard

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[dev] Cannot modify a wiki page

2009-07-06 Thread eric b

Hi,

The problem : I'm currently logged in on the OpenOffice.org wiki, but  
it does appear the link I put in a page I myself created do *not*  
appear ?



The wiki page is :  http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Education_Project/Effort/Various_adaptations_on_Sugar


What is strange, is, when editing, the content is there ...


What happens ? Is it intended  ?


Thanks in advance
Eric Bachard

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Re: [dev] Cannot modify a wiki page

2009-07-06 Thread eric b

Hi,


Le 6 juil. 09 à 10:30, Per Eriksson a écrit :


Hi Eric,

Try with finishing the /font tag. Then I get a lot of extra  
content ;-)

font color=red '''Draft''' /font



Uff .. indeed, I was stupid there.


Thanks a lot !

Eric Bachard

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[dev] Re: [project leads] On Modularization ...

2009-04-30 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 30 avr. 09 à 10:29, Kay Ramme a écrit :



And this is what we want to do first:
- Create a build helper, responsible for
 - getting the source,
 - getting prerequisites and pre-builds,
 - configuring the sources, taking care of dependencies ...,
 - and (optionally) building it.
- Add missing/useful configuration switches (e.g. for headless  
support).

- Re-factor according to needs (e.g. writer only etc.).

This build helper may be compared to the Linux kernels menuconfig /
xconfig, first configure it extensively, ideally in a graphical  
way, than build it.



Glad to see the idea of menuconfig like I proposed several times  
(on IRC, discussing), and long time ago, has finaly found some  
echo ... :-)



For the rest, I already thought on that for the 7-12 version of OOo  
for children I'm working on, but I think simplify the code in the  
sense you proposed before to improve performance, and fix bugs we  
have since stone age, or even know better how to load more  
efficiently all the libs, and so on is maybe not the best. But I can  
be wrong.


Though, all the best for your project :)


Have a nice day.
Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] More Build Problems

2009-01-21 Thread eric b

Hi Albert,

Le 21 janv. 09 à 16:41, Albert Law a écrit :





In your configure command line, I read you used the options :



./configure --disable-build-mozilla --disable-mozilla


... and so on.


AFAIK, --disable-mozilla options means build without use mozilla  
zipped archives nor mozilla sources. Thus, libxmlsec will not be  
built, nor delivered of course. Now, If you need this lib and  
includes, maybe you modified the environment afterwards, or did  
something wrong in meantime ? (like configure with mozilla disabled  
and modify the environment variable or something like that .. )


Can you please tell us what your environment file does contain around  
MOZILLA (the one you source before the build, if I'm not too wrong  
with windows buld)


On unix, we simply do :  set | grep MOZILLA   , and I hope it will  
work for you too, or try to read the WinNT... .sh file (sorry, I  
really never built on Windows)


FYI, the problem stands in the hack OpenOffice.org does use with  
mozilla : xmlsec and libxmlsec use some little part of mozilla  
( libnss exactly) to be built, but the dependancies are a bit  
complicated. To understand better, I'd suggest you to have a look at  
what is written in libxmlsec/makefile.mk or (quite the same topic)  
xmlsesecurity/util/makefile.mk  about Mozilla  ;)



HTH
Eric Bachard

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Re: [dev] More Build Problems

2009-01-21 Thread eric b

Hi Albert,

Le 21 janv. 09 à 17:28, Albert Law a écrit :


Hi Eric,

WITH_MOZILLA=NO



Ok, then things are clear, and either you have something wrong in  
your build or you hit a build issue (I'm surprised, because Windows  
build is well known )


Someone better than me with Windows will probably complete my answer :-)

Regards,
Eric

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Re: [dev] Qt as a valid replacement for VCL

2009-01-16 Thread eric b

Hello Eric :-)

Happy new year btw  :-)


Le 16 janv. 09 à 16:01, Éric Bischoff a écrit :


Hi everyone,
Nokia recently relicensed the Qt library under a triple license :  
GPL, LGPL, and commercial.



Wow, LGPL ?  awesome :)


Qt is cute, modern, C++, easy to program with, and multiplatform.  
Wouldn't it  be the ideal replacement for VCL, now that LGPL is an  
option?



I don't know the API, but I got several questions :

- I know the Linux/ Mac side could be ok, but how does it work on  
windows ?


- vcl has a lot of deep roots in OOo, land this will be a long and  
difficult task to change.





Ref: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/121695



Thanks for the link, I'll read  :)

Kind regards,
Eric

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Re: [dev] moving psprint into vcl

2009-01-08 Thread eric b

Hi Philipp,

Le 8 janv. 09 à 10:47, Philipp Lohmann a écrit :


Hi all,

for various reasons we (hdu and me in this case) would like to move  
the code now residing in psprint into vcl.




That's a good idea.


reasons to do so:
- font subsetting code is in psprint and on many platforms linked  
statically into vcl anyway.
- future CUPS versions will migrate from PostScript to PDF as their  
primary spool file format. moving psprint to vcl will make it  
easier to do this migration in OOo, too.

- vcl is psprint's only customer anyway.
- there is code duplication between psprint and vcl currently that  
can be removed after this changed.




All are good reasons, and simplify cannot be bad.



However this will mean there will be a CWS that will make this  
migration and changes to psprint in other CWS will be moot (see the  
discussion about svn not warning about committing to moved files).  
So consider yourself warned that we will announce a time at which  
no changes to psprint should be made until a certain CWS is  
integrated (not that there are that many people doing that  
anyway :-) )




Noticed :)


At the same time we could do a little cleanup and first thing  
coming to mind is the MACOSX specific code which could be removed.
That would however mean that the old MacOSX X11 port would not  
really work anymore (at least WRT to printing). So I want to ask:  
do we really continue to have the X11 Mac port in the 3.0 line ?  
Are there any compelling arguments for this ?




AFAIK, nobody works on maintain X11 (not only printing) version on  
Mac, and nobody will complain. And to be honest, I think 2.4.3 (I  
still continue to believe maxleofix4x11 will be integrated a day) is  
the very last version to have X11 working, and I agree to no longer  
support it in 3.x line.


So :  +1 from me for your proposal


Kind regards,
Eric


P.S. : any news for an ATSUI replacement ? IMHO, Apple should provide  
something soon, no ?



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Re: [dev] Patch for mozilla

2009-01-05 Thread eric b

Hi,

This is a common answer :

Mozilla 1.7.5 is obsolete, and its sources should *no longer* to be  
used for building OpenOffice.org. FYI, there is an effort in  
progress, to migrate from mozilla to seamonkey (1.1.13 currently).
The cwsname is moz2seamonkey01: Frank Schonheit did the Windows part,  
Pierre Pasteau the Linux one, and me the Mac OS X one. I'll give a  
try on Solaris soon too.


For lack of time reasons, this cws is not aligned with m38  (I've  
planned to resync it today or tomorrow), and waiting, you have two  
solutions :


1) not building Seamonkey (means use the existing zipped archives)

For Windows, this is Frank area. I bet some Seamonkey zipped  
archives, are probably downloadable somewhere on the web, but I'm  
sorry, only Frank knows, and unfortunaly, frank is probably on  
vacancy at the moment. Worse, I have no clue where to find them :-/


Just in case you can find them, just use the --disable-build-mozilla  
option in your configure command line + use the patch I do provide  
for connectivity (else you'll have breakages) thus, the zipped  
archives will directly be used at buildtime.


The only patch you need (else connectivity will break) is : http:// 
eric.bachard.free.fr/mac/aquavcl/patches/aqua_January_2009/5th_january/

Just ask me if ever you have problems.

2) building seamonkey (not trivial ) :

You'll need to extract all moz2seamonkey changes in the existing cws,  
and adapt them to the milestone you are using, and follow all  
instructions Frank wrote below. To add you a maximum of information,  
I think the links above should help you :


- Frank log about building the Seamonkey1.1.X sources : http:// 
wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Mozilla2Seamonkey/Problem_Log/Windows
- The current status of the migration : http:// 
wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project/ 
Effort#Mozilla_1.7.5_-.3E_Seamonkey_1.1.x_migration_.28click_me.29
- Mozilla information : https://developer.mozilla.org/en/ 
Windows_Build_Prerequisites


Hope this helps :-)


Happy New Year to all of you !
Eric Bachard


Le 5 janv. 09 à 12:58, KAMI911 KAMI911 a écrit :


I do not know about your env. but:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Windows#Visual_C.2B. 
2B_Express_2005

http://tools.openoffice.org/moz_prebuild/680/


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Re: [dev] cws sync m38 problems.

2009-01-05 Thread eric b

Hello Kohei,

Le 5 janv. 09 à 16:17, Kohei Yoshida a écrit :


On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 15:14 +, Caolán McNamara wrote:

i.e.



[...cut...]



svn: File '/cws/WORKSPACE/svx/uiconfig/layout/delzip' is out of date

cws: ERROR: The subversion command line client failed with exit  
status

'1'
FAILURE: cws aborted.





Ok.  Now I'm getting this while rebasing kohei02 cws to m38.  The  
funny thing is, I've successfully rebased several other CWSes to  
m38 and this is the first time I've got this problem.


I had it 3 times, and had to work on that the week end. Fortunaly,  
Christian Lohmaier (alias cloph on IRC ) saved me.





Any known workaround on this?  As Caolan already said, running 'svn  
up' does not seem to fix it.





Same issue, for 2 cws's. I don't have the solution, since I had to  
rebase manually, but don't remove the faulty module, else, the resync  
will not work for him (see my recent commits on CIA and you'll  
understand what will happen ;-)


So I'm sorry, I prefer not give you a bad advice, but I'd be glad to  
read how to solve that too. Maybe better wait ..




Regards,
Eric

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[dev] Project Educ à Educatice : appel à volontaire s

2008-11-21 Thread eric b

Bonjour,

La semaine prochaine, se tient le salon Educatice ( http:// 
www.educatice.com/ ) , et le projet OpenOffice.org Education est  
invité par le SCEREN . Au passage, un grand merci à Jean-Pierre  
Archambault de nous avoir invités.


Si vous souhaitez venir aider à tenir le stand, nos plages  
d'occupation (voir ci-dessous) sont les vendredi et samedi -  merci  
de me contacter directement pour qu'on puisse s'organiser.


... et si vous souhaitez simplement venir nous rencontrer, ce sera  
avec plaisir :-)



À bientôt,
Eric Bachard



Le planning de notre présence :

vendredi 28 matin :
les CRDP d'Aix-Marseille, Lyon et Paris
Ecole et Nature, OpenOffice Education, Lycée Léonard de Vinci de Melun

vendredi 28 après-midi :
les CRDP d'Aix-Marseille, Lyon et Paris
Ecole et Nature, OpenOffice Education, Lycée Léonard de Vinci de  
Melun, Wikimédia


samedi 29 matin :
les CRDP d'Aix-Marseille, Lyon et Paris
Ecole et Nature, OpenOffice Education, Wikimédia

samedi 29 après-midi :
les CRDP d'Aix-Marseille, Lyon et Paris
Ecole et Nature, OpenOffice Education, Lycée Léonard de Vinci de  
Melun, Wikimédia



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Re: [dev] Hey

2008-11-13 Thread eric b

Hello,


Le 12 nov. 08 à 03:37, Ramanujan Iyengar a écrit :


Hey OpenOffice.org Team,
I am a grad student at Northeastern University and am interested in  
contributing to openoffice.org in the capacity of a programmer /  
in the

arts field too. Can you please help me get started?



There is a dedicated wiki page about that : http:// 
wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Main_Page#Getting_started_with_OOo_development


Another good way to start is to join the #education.openoffice.org  
channel : we welcome beginners, and try to orient them in the right  
direction.


Last, I'd invite you to have a look at Education Project. Our main  
wiki page is : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Education_Project


e.g. the ClassRoom : : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Education_ClassRoom


or the Effort : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Education_Project/Effort


Be welcome in OpenOffice.org Project :)


Regards,
Eric Bachard


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[dev] [Ann] Education Project ClassRoom today 13 november ( 17:00 - 18:00 CET )

2008-11-13 Thread eric b

Hello,

As reminder, there is a ClasRoom today, on the  
#education.openoffice.org channel (server irc.freenode.net ).
The topic is :  OpenOffice.org COding Guidelines , and the  
presentation will be made by Thorsten Behrens.


Please note everyone interested is welcome.

For further information, please look at the agenda : http:// 
wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_ClassRoom/Agenda



See you !
Eric Bachard

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[dev] [OT] Re: [project leads] Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Community Mapping Project

2008-11-02 Thread eric b

Hello Eike,


I have put the OT flag, because my answer  does no longer match the  
initial subject


Le 2 nov. 08 à 12:22, Eike Rathke a écrit :


See http://www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg? 
listName=devmsgNo=15654





Sure, I read it, but my concern is about code core developers. What  
I'd like to see, is a map showing the people writing regular code for  
OOo, to have sort of photo, where such devs are not mixed with all  
the other, or maybe using another color, or something else but clear,  
showing easely how many are doing that, compared to the other.


And yes, I think, be listed this way, is IMHO a minimum the project  
could do for regular volunteers or profesionall writing code for  
OpenOffice.org.


This is even very easy to count them :)





For me developers are the one who fix bugs, add new features ..


The map is about OOo development, certainly there are not only core  
code developers involved in development, no?




Yes, sure, the map... but I don't like how people play with the word  
development. My conviction is, if you want to fix bugs and add new  
features, the role of core code developers is essential, and should  
be the first line fight of every day in the project. The rest is  
important of course, and you can add zillions of people helping, and  
contributing, but I think like some other people, that OpenOffice.org  
future can be compromised if we don't care.  Even with millions of   
meta  developers around.


That's what I wanted to say.


EOT for me.

Regards,
Eric Bachard



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[dev] Re: [project leads] Re: [discuss] Re: OpenOffice.org Community Mapping Project

2008-10-30 Thread eric b

Hi Andre,


Just a question : what does mean Developer for you exactly ?

Looking at your map, I didn't found too much of people who commited  
anything, and I seriously doubt this is a correct description of the  
OpenOffice.org developers, but maybe I misunderstood the sense of the  
word ...


For me developers are the one who fix bugs, add new features ..



Regards,
Eric Bachard


Le 30 oct. 08 à 12:57, André Schnabel a écrit :


Hi,

Zaheda Bhorat schrieb:


:-(  We have only six community entries so far in our attempt to  
create an OpenOffice.org community map. None of the entries  
include developers. Our goal was to get off to a great start to  
this project with many entries in time for OOoCon 2008 in Beijing  
next week.


Sometimes it might be better to use the resources that are already  
there instead of creating new ones:


http://www.frappr.com/ooodev/map

This has many of our developers and contributors.SOmewith short  
statements what they do here in the project. (Unfortunately most of  
the recent entries are spam)


The curious thing about communities is that they grow where they  
like - and not when and where we like them to grow.


André

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[dev] getting started hacking openoffice.org

2008-10-27 Thread Eric Anopolsky
Hi,

I've noticed that OpenOffice.org Calc doesn't support a feature that
Excel does. I'd like to fix this, but I've never hacked on
OpenOffice.org before so I started with the Building and Hacking
instructions in the wiki.

When I tried to follow the My first hack instructions in
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Hacking I ran into problems.
(Building and running OpenOffice.org according to the Building page went
relatively smoothly.)

Here is what happens when I modify the menu.cxx file and rebuild OOO:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl$ build debug=true
build -- version: 1.171

=
Building module vcl
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/inc
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/aqua/source/a11y
Nothing to build for GUIBASE unx
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/aqua/source/app
Nothing to build for GUIBASE unx
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/aqua/source/gdi
Nothing to build for GUIBASE unx
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/aqua/source/window
Nothing to build for GUIBASE unx
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/app
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/components
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/control
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/gdi
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/glyphs
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/helper
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/salmain
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/src
-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/window
--
Making: ../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/menu.obj
g++  -Wreturn-type -fmessage-length=0 -c -g -O0   -fvisibility=hidden
-I.  -I../../unxlngx6.pro/inc/win -I../inc -I../../inc/pch -I../../inc
-I../../unx/inc -I../../unxlngx6.pro/inc -I.
-I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solver/300/unxlngx6.pro/inc/stl 
-I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solver/300/unxlngx6.pro/inc/external
 -I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solver/300/unxlngx6.pro/inc 
-I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solenv/unxlngx6/inc 
-I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solenv/inc 
-I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/res 
-I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solver/300/unxlngx6.pro/inc/stl 
-I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solenv/inc/Xp31 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/include -I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/include/linux 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/include/native_threads/include -I/usr/include  
-I/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solver/300/unxlngx6.pro/inc/offuh 
-I. -I../../res -I. -pipe  -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -fno-use-cxa-atexit 
-fvisibility-inlines-hidden -Wall -Wextra -Wendif-labels -Wshadow 
-Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor   -fpic -DLINUX -DUNX -DVCL 
-DGCC -DC341 -DX86_64 -DCVER=C341 -DNPTL -DGLIBC=2 -DX86_64 -D_PTHREADS 
-D_REENTRANT -DNEW_SOLAR -D_USE_NAMESPACE=1 -DSTLPORT_VERSION=400 
-DHAVE_GCC_VISIBILITY_FEATURE -D__DMAKE -DUNIX -DCPPU_ENV=gcc3 
-DGXX_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/c++/4.2 -DSUPD=300 -DDEBUG -DPRODUCT -DNDEBUG 
-DPRODUCT_FULL -DOSL_DEBUG_LEVEL=2 -DCUI -DSOLAR_JAVA -DUSE_BUILTIN_RASTERIZER  
-DVCL_DLLIMPLEMENTATION -DSHAREDLIB -D_DLL_   -fexceptions 
-fno-enforce-eh-specs -DEXCEPTIONS_ON  -o ../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/menu.o 
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/source/window/menu.cxx 
if ( -e ../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/menu.o )
touch ../../unxlngx6.pro/slo/menu.obj 
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solver/300/unxlngx6.pro/bin/makedepend
 @/tmp/mk5Ud5YQ  ../../unxlngx6.pro/misc/s_menu.dpcc
--
Making: ../../unxlngx6.pro/slb/win.lib
echo unxlngx6.pro/slo/abstdlg.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/accel.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/accmgr.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/brdwin.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/btndlg.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/cmdevt.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/cursor.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/decoview.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/dialog.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/dlgctrl.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/dndevdis.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/dndlcon.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/dockingarea.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/dockmgr.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/dockwin.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/floatwin.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/introwin.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/keycod.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/keyevent.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/mouseevent.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/menu.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/mnemonic.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/mnemonicengine.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/msgbox.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/scrwnd.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/seleng.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/split.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/splitwin.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/status.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/syschild.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/javachild.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/syswin.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/tabdlg.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/tabpage.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/taskpanelist.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/toolbox.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/toolbox2.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/window.o
unxlngx6.pro/slo/winproc.o unxlngx6.pro/slo/window2.o
unxlngx6.pro

Re: [dev] getting started hacking openoffice.org

2008-10-27 Thread eric b

Hi,


Le 25 oct. 08 à 06:45, Eric Anopolsky a écrit :


Hi,

I've noticed that OpenOffice.org Calc doesn't support a feature  
that Excel does. I'd like to fix this, but I've never hacked on
OpenOffice.org before so I started with the Building and Hacking  
instructions in the wiki.




Ok


When I tried to follow the My first hack instructions in
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Hacking I ran into  
problems. (Building and running OpenOffice.org according to the  
Building page went

relatively smoothly.)



Thanks for the information.



Here is what happens when I modify the menu.cxx file and rebuild OOO:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl$ build debug=true
build -- version: 1.171




After a quick look, I see nothing bad during the build.



-
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl/workben
-
rmdir /tmp/7738



What did you in the middle ?  Did you replace the old lib in the  
install set .. or  ?   FYI, symlink no longer work (excepted some  
rare cases)




[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl$ soffice -writer
/home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/solver/300/unxlngx6.pro/ 
bin/soffice: 125: /home/eric/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/ 
solver/300/unxlngx6.pro/bin/../basis-link/program/pagein: not found


^^

Something is indeed not found.

Missing vcl resource. This indicates that files vital to  
localization are missing. You might have a corrupt installation.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/openoffice.org/OOO300_m9/vcl$



I know a possible cause: services.rdb can be corrupted (e.g. when  
trying to register a new lib, while OOo is alive).




Am I doing something wrong?



I think the change and the build do not cause trouble, but only the  
final step. Did you deliver the lib, repackage new archives ... or ?   
I think we need more info about the end of your hack.


FYI, there are IRC channels existing, where you can find alive  
information, and discuss synchronously can help a lot.


We do #education.openoffice.org ( server is irc.freenode.net ) , but  
you can try on #dev.openoffice.org first. It is up to you.



Regards,
Eric Bachard


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[dev] Re: [project leads] Re: [discuss] [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Becoming an (Incubator) Project

2008-10-05 Thread eric b

Hi Martin,

Le 5 oct. 08 à 15:53, Martin Hollmichel a écrit :

Reading :

I think we need to revisit these guidelines and may invent a new  
category like OOo related projects.


and


Candidates for this project might be the [EMAIL PROTECTED] but also the  
Extensions or the Education project.


and


To encourage the creation of such projects I would like to see the  
conditions for those project at a low level. At the same time this  
also would mean that these project are also not in the scope of the  
Community Council Charter (http://council.openoffice.org/ 
CouncilProposal.html).




Can you please explain me more about the consequences for the  
OpenOffice.org Education Project ( and for the other mentionned of  
course ) of such a change ?
Means no longer be considered as OOo Project (even an incubator  
one) , but sort of new category nobody knows anything, named OOo  
related project ?


For me , Out of scope  sounds something like dropped out of  
OpenOffice.org Project, or  we don't want to manage that  or worse.


Please explain me.

Thanks,
Eric


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Re: [dev] Initial SSH Key Installation (was Re: Migration to Subversion)

2008-09-17 Thread eric b

Hi Stefan,

Le 17 sept. 08 à 21:13, Stefan Taxhet a écrit :


Hi,
The OpenOffice.org code repository moves from CVS to SVN.
Please query IssueZilla for your issue with the attachment holding  
your key and add it as a dependency to issue 94002.

http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=94002



I already uploaded my key via EIS, does it matter ?


We will then install those keys for DomainDevelopers for read/write  
access to the repository.




Ok

Up to now only few code committers made use of the ssh key upload  
for the OpenOffice.org SVN repository. Please note that your key  
will not be migrated without your intervention as described above.


Please note that access to the main site CVS repository is not  
affected. For further info see
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
OOo_and_Subversion#Create_a_OOo_repository_mirror


Thanks a lot :)  Will have a look

Eric Bachard

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Re: [dev] Research Project

2008-09-12 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 12 sept. 08 à 17:48, Baytiyeh, Hoda a écrit :


Hello,

I am a Ph.D. student in Instructional Technology at the University  
of Tennessee.


Be welcome !

I am conducting research about what motivates people to contribute  
to Open Source Software for free.


Interesting  :)



OpenOffice is one of the applications I am targeting in my research.


Just a detail: OpenOffice.org is the right name of both the project  
and the application (the software).



I would like to send my survey to people who are involved in the  
development and not to the users.


I'd suggest you to try with the Education Project.


Is there any mailinglist for all the contributors in OpenOffice  
that I can use?



The most relevant list is IMHO the [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Project mailing list.


And if you want further information, feel free to contact us  
directly, or on #education.openoffice.org IRC channel ( server is  
irc.freenode.net )





Your help is highly appreciated.




You're welcome !

Eric Bachard

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Re: [dev] SDK on Mac OS X 10.4

2008-08-21 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 21 août 08 à 13:47, Juergen Schmidt a écrit :


Pierre Doyon wrote:

Hi all,
I tried to generate a UNO Component on PPC Mac OS X 10.4 with the  
SDK of OpenOffice.org 3.0 and I had somes problems during the link  
of the objects files. I got a list Undefined symbols like this  
one: _osl_acquireMutex referenced from  
@__URELIB/ 
libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.dylib.3 expected to be defined in  
@loader_path/libuno_sal.dylib.3

I would like to know if you .
I would like to know if you have succeeded the generatation of the  
UNO Component. If yes, how do you perform it?
yes i have tested the SDK examples on an Intel based Mac and it  
worked for me. I still got some warnings like

ld: warning, duplicate dylib
/local/develop/cws/vcl30stop2/StarOffice.app/Contents/basis-link/ 
ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.dylib.3

when i compile C++ and i don't know why but the examples work.



Maybe the lib in the solver differs from the one in the current  
module (does deliver help ?) Seems to be the first sentence of the  
log, but I can be wrong.


Other issues (the one Pierre Doyon triggered above e.g.)  can be:   
duplicate includes, or bad order of the includes declaration,  
including some #undef , and generally causing big troubles.
But other reasons can do that .. difficult to solve when not in front  
of the machine :/



Regards,
Eric Bachard

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Re: [dev] about the native print error on Mac AquaBuild

2008-06-20 Thread eric b

Hello Debin,



Le 20 juin 08 à 03:52, debin lei a écrit :


hi All

  I am interested in developing Mac AquaBuild. And i found a pb  
on the build.


Thanks for your feedback.


  I got the sources (DEV_m12) and build it fellow the guild
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/AquaBuild
  It works fine. But in my iMac 10.5.2, if the Preview app was not



[...cut...]



 Can anyone help me ?



I'd suggest you to build a more recent milestone, like DEV300_m20

If you need other information, you can join #ooo_macport IRC channel,  
and we would be vrey glad to help and you advices :-)



Regards,
Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] about the native print error on Mac AquaBuild

2008-06-20 Thread eric b

Hi,

Le 20 juin 08 à 08:52, debin lei a écrit :

Thank you for your answers. I did't try the DEV300_m20, but from  
the web cvs, i have checked the file salprn.cxx in vcl\aqua\source 
\gdi\, it seem

nothing change to print opertions.



If I'm not wrong, Philipp Lohmann commited some changes in vcl/ aqua/  
source/ gdi/ salprn.cxx in aquavcl08, not integrated yet.


and if you need to add it in your build, we'll explain you how proceed.


I will ask the question to openoffice.porting.mac


Yes, good idea.



and i will ooo_macport IRC channel soon.



Ok, see you soon !



Thank you very much.



You're welcome :-)

Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] about the native print error on Mac AquaBuild

2008-06-20 Thread eric b

Hi,


Le 20 juin 08 à 10:18, debin lei a écrit :

Can you tell me what is the e-mail address for   
openoffice.porting.mac?




You just have to sen a mail to :

[EMAIL PROTECTED] , then confirm ... and once  
done, you'll be able to post on [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing  
list :-)



Regards,
Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] fixing warnings in binfilter?

2008-06-17 Thread eric b

Hi Stephan,

Le 16 juin 08 à 13:47, Stephan Bergmann a écrit :


We here loosely means the group of people inside Sun that started  
to get the warning-free thing going back then.


:-)

Ok, I had in mind some ESC meeting or something. In fact, searching  
in the archives, I found your -impressive- original mail (http:// 
www.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?listName=devmsgNo=14653 )


and for the record, I found it very interesting and I mentionned it  
on the Education Project wiki page ( http:// 
wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project/Effort#.5B. 
5BEducation_Project.2FEffort.2FFixing_warning_.7C_Fixing_warnings_. 
28click_me.29.5D.5D )



I remember having discussed the binfilter issue in some face-to- 
face setting, but do not remember any further details, and also did  
not find anything written down regarding this.  My comment was not  
meant to imply an officiality, I just wanted to give background  
information.


My question was just informative, nothing more. Mail is not the best  
sometimes, and without the context, the intention can easely be  
misunderstood. Sorry.




Don't get me wrong;


I don't :-)


I do not say you must not change binfilter (how could I?).


You are right to point us to not spend resources for useless work  
(e.g. for the one who will QA the changes), and from our side, we  
promise to be as efficient as possible, starting following kendy's  
advice, for example, but not only. With Rakesh, we have the  
enthousiasm, and you have the expertise :-)




If you think it is a good idea, go ahead.


Ok, and if you have other ideas, please don't hesitate to tell us.

I think another important work we could start working on for  
Education Project is explain the bridges. I remember Daniel Boelzle  
wrote a great document explaining how works the proxy between UNO,  
Java and C++ APIs, and this could be an interesting theorical point  
about OpenOffice.org for beginners. The bad thing is I lost the  
document somewhere, but I'm confident I'll retrieve one copy soon.


Of course, if you think this is a wrong idea, don't hesitate to tell me.


Regards,
Eric


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Re: [dev] DEV300_m16: lingucomponent build error

2008-06-05 Thread eric b

Hello,

Le 5 juin 08 à 19:28, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :


Hi there,

building DEV300_m16 th following error happens wile making  
hyphenimp.obj


/build/openoffice/DEV300_m16/lingucomponent/source/hyphenator/ 
altlinuxhyph/hyphen/hyphenimp.cxx
/build/openoffice/DEV300_m16/lingucomponent/source/hyphenator/ 
altlinuxhyph/hyphen/hyphenimp.cxx:48:20: error: hyphen.h: No existe  
el fichero o el directorio [==No such file or directory]




cvs co -r DEV300_m16 hyphen

... should help.

If I remember correctly, the alias could be missing.



Regards,
Eric Bachard

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Re: [dev] Select high contrast icons

2008-04-21 Thread eric b

Hi Stella,

Le 21 avr. 08 à 14:07, Stella Schulze a écrit :


I think this feature should be changed to:

Proposal B:
* Rename HiContrast to High Contrast
and
* Move the high contrast theme to the bottom of the list
and
* Add a separation line between the last normal theme and  
accessibility theme





I vote for Proposal B : better keep the possibility to change for  
High Contrast + add a separation for accessibility theme.


Hope this helps :)


Regards,
Eric Bachard


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Re: [dev] Scanner dialog and screen aspect ratio: how to get info?

2008-03-17 Thread eric b

Hello,



Le 17 mars 08 à 18:18, Carlo Scarfoglio a écrit :


Hi all,
I started with fixing a problem with my HP OfficeJet scanner



Which Operating System ?


and now I'm having a look at several issues that I found checking  
the code of the scanner dialog used in writer and draw. The  
functionality is there, but it looks like old, unmantained code.



Not exactly. Just resources are missing to rewrite a brand new  
interface.


FYI, all the relevant code is in extensions/source/scanner, and there  
is an effort to implement something more usefull on Mac OS X.


There is a Doxygen generated documentation available here : http:// 
eric.bachard.free.fr/Education/Documentation/AquaScanner/html/



For further information, please look at : http:// 
wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Education_Project/Effort


More precisely here : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ 
Education_Project/Effort#Improve_Scanner_Use_.28click_me.29


IMPORTANT:  my mailer adds extra spaces in the URL, please take care.



Bugs fixed so far:
1) The dialog offered two resolution selections for the OfficeJet:  
75 and 1200 DPI, the minimum and maximum. The OfficeJet can scan at  
any DPI value between 75 and 1200, but the edit box was not  
editable. I inserted some additional DPI values in the listbox and  
made the edit box editable.
This should work for any scanner that can scan at any DPI value  
between min and max.
2) Tested with a Canon Lide scanner, the listbox offered several  
DPI values, but again only the min and max values were selectable,  
The code wrongly set the min and max listbox range: the min DPI  
value as max and viceversa. This happened because the Lide can scan  
at fixed DPI values, but the driver returns the values in the  
opposite order to what the code expected it to be. The resolution  
edit box is not editable.




...


I reworked the user interface. The changes so far.
3) Moved controls around to make the dialog more compact.
4) Added a listbox to choose the scan mode (Color, Grey and  
Lineart) directly, without accessing the advanced options treebox.  
Several mouse clicks saved. And
5) removed the Advanced options checkbox. The treebox is always in  
advanced mode.

6) Increased the size of the preview rectangle.

The preview rectangle poses a problem. The X and Y sizes are  
constants set in the .hrc file


Exact. This is awfull and there is work in progress for a new layouting.



. I can turn them into variables, and set them at runtime according  
to the width and height of the scan area (the OfficeJet has 220x381  
mm, the Lide 215x300 mm, for instance) and within the bounds of the  
dialog box.


Are you sure all scanners have the same values ?  ;-)


But the preview image is always vertically squashed because the  
screen aspect ratio is not taken into account.
Aspect ratio is usually 1,25 (for 1280x1024) or 1,33 (for  
1024z768), but new LCD screens can have other ratios.




Looks like a layout side effect. Needs to be discussed.



I couldn't find a way to determine this ratio. There are private  
variables in the Window class that (my guess) should hold these  
values. I think that some functions, such as PixelToLogic, etc  
should provide help, but I couldn't find any documentation.





I'm interested to see the changes you did. Do you have patches ?



Can anybody provide help or a hint?




Yes, sure, but I'd like to understand what you exactly did first.  
AFAIK, there is a TWAIN Handler on Windows, or a SANE one on Mac OS  
X, and the values should be correct without modify what you described.




If anybody with a build system and a working scanner is keen to  
test the beast, I will send another email witih the relevant files  
attached.




You're welcome !

Looking forward to reading you :)






P.S. : do you use IRC ?  you'll see me on Education channel: server:  
irc.freenode.net  channel : #education.openoffice.org

my nickname is ericb2

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[dev] Fwd: dev Digest of: get.21764_21780

2008-02-04 Thread Eric Burke
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Date: Feb 4, 2008 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: dev Digest of: get.21764_21780
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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 From: Volker Quetschke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: dev@openoffice.org
 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:58:37 -0500
 Subject: Re: [dev] Build configure problem.
 Details please!

 Eric Burke wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am currently configuring my computer to build Open Office.
 Which version, what exactly?

  I am building
  on Windows XP. I am encountering the following error:
  mscoree.lib (.NET Framework) not found. Make sure you use
 --with-frame-home.
 
  I have put one location (of three) on the Path, and I have also put the
  location on the command line with the '--with-frame-home' option, (which
  solved similar problems with other files) but it still can't 'find'
  mscoree.lib.

 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Debug_Build_Problems

 
  Any help appreciated, thanks,
  Eric.
 


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I am running Windows XP on a Dell GX240, Pentium 4. I am trying to build
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[dev] Build configure problem.

2008-01-30 Thread Eric Burke
Hi,

I am currently configuring my computer to build Open Office. I am building
on Windows XP. I am encountering the following error:
mscoree.lib (.NET Framework) not found. Make sure you use --with-frame-home.

I have put one location (of three) on the Path, and I have also put the
location on the command line with the '--with-frame-home' option, (which
solved similar problems with other files) but it still can't 'find'
mscoree.lib.

Any help appreciated, thanks,
Eric.


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