[dev] Re: About OpenOffice.org

2011-03-18 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


18.03.2011, 08:24, Mapper720.Ru Admin ad...@mapper720.ru:
 Hello!

 I like OpenOffice, but it has one rather serious weak point - it works
 (especially OO.o Calc) more slowly, then ms excel. It would be very good
 to make it more fast, if you can.

Out of curiosity, have you tried Gnumeric?

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Re: [dev] Need help with Open Office

2011-01-30 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


28.01.2011, 23:30, Yashavant Kulkarni yashav...@cox.net:
 Hello,

 I am importing several documents that were prepared in Micorsoft Office
 2000. They have password protection both for opening and changing.

 I am trying to use those documents in Open Office.  I can open them by
 entering open password. However Open Office does not ask for write
 password. When I try to make changes to the documents, it does not allow
 changes.

 What can I do ?

Post a bug report

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Re: [dev] contribute

2010-12-17 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

 Really, though I admire Tono for his heroic effort to build OOo with gcc
 on Windows, it's not what I would recommend for beginners. It requires a
 patched version of mingw that usually only works for a limited number of
 OOo versions and it is even slower than the VC++ based build (that
 already is much slower than gcc on Linux on the same hardware).

 So my recommendation is: if the VC++ compiler should be avoided, avoid
 Windows too.

And non-optimized build with GCC 3.4.6 on Linux should be faster than
with GCC 4.x


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Re: [dev] Re: Installing OpenOffice SDK and configuring NetBeans IDE

2010-12-06 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


06.12.2010, 13:14, Michael Stahl michael.x.st...@oracle.com:
 On 06/12/2010 02:25, Harsha Ravnikar wrote:

  I downloaded SDK version 3.2.1 for the first time from
  http://download.openoffice.org/sdk/index.html and extracted it.

  When I run the update script that comes with the SDK, I get a message
  Skipping deselected package for (I think) all the packages within the DEBS
  directory.

  Seems like SDK installation is not working.

  Do I have to manually install all the .deb files? What will it do to my
  existing OpenOffice installation that Ubuntu has installed?

 i guess the OpenOffice.org SDK as distributed by the OpenOffice.org
 project does not work together with distro OpenOffice.org builds, which
 use a different directory layout.

 you can use the upstream OpenOffice.org SDK with the upstream
 OpenOffice.org binary packages, or you can use the distro-provided
 OpenOffice.org SDK packages together with the distro-provided
 OpenOffice.org binary packages.

 it seems the SDK package on Ubuntu is this one:
 openoffice.org-dev

I had an experience of successful usage of vanilla SDK with Ubuntu's OOo, but
I've had to install SDK files manually to get it working (i.e., copy them into 
correct
subdirectories inside Ubuntu's OOo installation). But I wouldn't recommended to
use this way :)


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Re: [dev] Importing Filter fixes from Symphony

2010-12-02 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
 Hi all

 any response to camille's response regarding calc filters bugs ?

 These bugs are stoppers regarding Calc use in many migration
 as an example, we just migrated my city, Voreppe (France) 200 users, to
 OOo but theses specific bugs lead to a growing unsatisfaction regarding
 the migration among all the calc users. The process is much harder now
 to make OOo accepted

Hi Laurent,

You could try to use Gnumeric - it's free from many of Calc's bugs and runs
much faster

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Re: [dev] OOo starts working after installing VS 2008 C++ Express

2010-11-26 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


26.11.2010, 14:29, Knut Olav Bøhmer boh...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 I had a problem with OOo, that when you start OOo it opens a
 restore-document-window, and crashes. When I use the -norestore option
 it just crashed. I tried several users on the same computer, and they
 (includeing Administrator) all failed. I tried removing the user
 profile, but still the same. Reinstalling OOo has also been tried,
 with no luck.

 Then I installed Visual Studio C++ 2008 Express to debug this. When
 VSC2008 was installed, OOo started working as it should.  (for all
 users on the computer)
 So, the problem is probably some DLL files that's not good on this
 system. There are more computers and users that have this problem. How
 can I find out what the problem is and which DLL files should be
 installed?

I think this can help you:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=9b2da534-3e03-4391-8a4d-074b9f2bc1bfdisplaylang=en

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Re: [dev] Newbe

2010-09-05 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Have just built OpenOffice under Ubuntu, but have run out of knowledgein how 
to install it (not a Linux guru).

make install doesn't work for you?
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Re: Re: [dev] OOo installation packages for Linux, a few (easy) questions

2010-08-16 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


16.08.10, 18:55, Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@googlemail.com:

  Isn't it just enough to go into the directory and use the command
  
  dpkg -i *.deb (or something similar, I've never had a Debian-based system).

This command works fine, I can prove it.


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Re: [dev] OpenOffice.org Performance Analysis - to improve responsiveness for older PC

2010-07-05 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


02.07.10, 08:58, Samphan Raruenrom samp...@osdev.co.th:

 http://www.slideshare.net/untsamphan/o-oo-perfanalysis41
  
  OOo users usually complain about 2 types of OOo performance problems - 
  program-start time and open-file time. OOo developers focus on improving 
  program-start time so it is getting better. However, open-file time is 
  more serious for PC with low RAM, e.g. several minutes to open a few 
  megabytes spreadsheets.
  
  For PC with low RAM (256M), Calc will have difficulties open typical 
  spreadsheets larger than a few megabytes because Calc use memory to hold 
  the document much less efficient than MS Office. See slide 21 for the 
  comparison.  This seems hard/impossible to improve so my typical advice 
  to users is to add more RAM if they want to open larger files.
  
  

[off-topic]
Just an advice: if you're really interested in working with spreadsheets on old 
PCs, forget about Calc. Gnumeric is much faster, especially with low RAM and 
large documents. Sometimes it opens Excel files better, and it has a lot of 
features that Calc lacks
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[dev] CMake module for finding OpenOffice.org SDK installation

2010-05-25 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Hi all!
I've written cmake module which finds installation of OpenOffice.org
SDK. Both distribution-supplied and official OOo installation are
supported. Script will choose first OOo installation where SDK is
present. It sets paths to different directories of OOo, which could be
easily used in CMake project

Personally I use CMake as configurator for my extension in Java (built
with ant) to simplify building on different machines/Linux distros

File is attached. License is BSD. Any fixes/addition are welcomed.

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Re: Re: [dev] CMake module for finding OpenOffice.org SDK installation

2010-05-25 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
  Actually, no, I disagree. As it's just a data file, we can just include
  it in the SDK.

Actually, this script is not OOo side integration. It's intended to be 
included into projects using CMake, it will not work from from SDK location 
(as, for example, pkg-config files work). Alternatively, it could be submitted 
to CMake, placed in its directory it will be available without copying to 
project.

Of course, I can provide an example of usage, but if you want to include CMake 
integration into SDK, it will require a bit more effort. Maybe I'll take it 
later.

Also, I'd like to add that this file could be potentially used not only for 
extensions, but for any project which needs OpenOffice.org files for any 
purpose (but it may require some improvements in it).

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Re: Re: Re: [dev] CMake module for finding OpenOffice.org SDK installation

2010-05-25 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
   Actually, this script is not OOo side integration.
  
  Wrong. It is. It is a file for loooking where OOos SDK is.

Yes, but it couldn't be called OOo side integration now because it needs to 
be included into client's project, and it searches for OOo installations in the 
system, not belonging to any of it. Proper OOo side integration should 
include some information for CMake what files to include

  Err., last I looked cmake had a dir where it looked for .cmake files:

Yes, but it's not fair to install files into other project's prefix :)

Alternatively, it could be submitted to CMake, placed in its directory it
   will be available without copying to project.
  
  I don't think that's a good idea. Such stuff belongs to the project
  wheere it#s supposed to check for (so it can be adapted there for changes)
  Like stuff for the  3 SDKs won't work with = 3 SDKs.

It was just an idea. Actually, CMake already contains Find modules for lots 
of libraries and other software. My script is already able to extract OOo 
version (build number and other info could be extracted similarly)
  

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Re: [dev] cannot install java extension on ubuntu 10.04 (oo 3.2)

2010-05-23 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
On Sun, 23 May 2010 13:55:43 +0200
Oliver Brinzing oliver.brinz...@gmx.de wrote: 

 Hi,
 
 i tried to install some of my java extensions on ubuntu 10.04 (oo
 3.2) but failed, it seems all extensions with *.jar files refuse to
 install ...
 
 any hints ?

Have you installed openoffice.org-java-common package?

 
 Oliver
 
 u...@notebook:/usr/lib/openoffice/program$ sudo unopkg add
 ./../share/uno_packages/sun-report-builder.oxt --shared --verbose
 Copying: sun-report-builder.oxt
 Enabling: Sun Report Builder
  Enabling: DbReportWindowState.xcs
  Enabling: ReportCommands.xcs
  Enabling: ReportDesign.xcs
  Enabling: sun-report-builder.jar
 
 ERROR: (com.sun.star.deployment.DeploymentException) { { Message =
 An error occurred while enabling: sun-report-builder.jar, Context =
 (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @9f37998 }, Cause = (any)
 { (com.sun.star.registry.CannotRegisterImplementationException)
 { { Message = , Context = (com.sun.star.uno.XInterface) @0 } } } }
 rollback... Disabling: ReportDesign.xcs
   Disabling: ReportCommands.xcs
   Disabling: DbReportWindowState.xcs
   rollback finished.
 An error occurred while enabling: sun-report-builder.jar
 


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Re: [dev] Regarding how to start with openoffice extension development in JAVA

2010-05-16 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
On Sun, 16 May 2010 10:14:41 +0530
peeush agarwal agarwal.pee...@hotmail.com wrote: 

 
 SirI am a B.Tech (C.S.E.),3rd year student from National Institute of
 Technology,Durgapur,India.I do have a good programming skills in
 Java(J2SE,J2EE) and I would like to contribute in open source
 technology starting with OpenOffice. Actually I am looking for a
 project on development of extensions in OpenOffice as it is a good,
 emerging office , so I would be greatly admired if I can contribute
 in this office using Java programming language.Hope I'll get reply as
 soon as possible with some project on OpenOffice. Thanking you Yours
 sincerely

Are you interested in creation of your own extension, or would like to
help somebody else?
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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

 CMake - Minus
 
 The major drawback of CMake is that we couldn't find a way to do the 
 conversion in separate steps. We had to write the CMake makefiles in 
 parallel to the existing ones and so had to maintain two build
 systems for several months.

Your conclusion is wrong. See add_custom_target function in manual -
you can run any external build system from cmake. I even use it as
configurer which founds OOo binaries and jars for ant :)

As for me, major advantages of CMake are:
* speed of initial configuration step, fast re-configuration because of
  caching;
* easy setting up of build parameters through ccmake - much more
  convenient than those --long-keys;
* more intelligent tracking of source dependencies - less files require
  rebuild if something changes than autotools think;
* possibility of parallel build of several directories;
* much faster installation - up-to-date binaries are not updated
Also:
* it's easy to determine operating system of build host and do custom
  actions for each platform (e.g., build bundle for Mac)

 CMake does not overcome the other inherent faults of a recursive, 
 segmented build system that are explained in the wiki.

Again wrong. You can use add_custom_dependencies for each module and
configure build oreder as fine as you need

 We also need a solution for builds from more than one code
 repository. I explained that in the wiki. The one project, one
 workdir approach of CMake does not offer enough flexibility to make
 that possible without headaches.

Wrong. You can add paths from underlaying dirs into CMakeLists.txt, or
even use ../ to get higher... Nobody forces you to have CMakeLists.txt
in every directory, and you can run external build systems for
sub-directories with passing them correct parameters

 CMake requires tedious procedures or extra scripting to easily build 
 single modules of OOo, something that is still important for many OOo 
 developers.

Sometimes it's true - non-trivial actions which aren't related to
compilation/linking are often simplier to do from shell script. But if
you choose autotools, you also have to require shell! You can run shell
scripts as external program from build system though. You can run shell
script for unix, or bat for Windows.


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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

 
 As for me, major advantages of CMake are:
 * speed of initial configuration step, fast re-configuration because
 of caching;
 * easy setting up of build parameters through ccmake - much more
   convenient than those --long-keys;
 * more intelligent tracking of source dependencies - less files
 require rebuild if something changes than autotools think;
 * possibility of parallel build of several directories;
 * much faster installation - up-to-date binaries are not updated
 Also:
 * it's easy to determine operating system of build host and do custom
   actions for each platform (e.g., build bundle for Mac)
 

Also, with autotools you'll depend on their version. With CMake, you'll
set version number, and newer CMake versions will run in compatibility
mode with that version. 
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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Also, with Autotools developer needs to run autogen if something in the
project/gtk headers/something else changed to re-generate configure
script, or build will fail in the middle. With CMake you don't need it -
build system automatically detects if something's changed when you run
make, and reconfigure before building.

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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Sorry, I didn't investigate all materials carefully. But, since CMake
also uses GNU make as backend, I decided you're planning to use whole
GNU build system.

Yes, I know there're some large projects that use GNU make as build
system, e.g. commercial quantum package Molpro. But it's the way of
developing your own build system instead of using/improving existing
one (I don't call GNU make itself a build system because it has too
few built-in facilities comparing to CMake or autotools)

 That is not a migration in steps because it would require to make
 CMake the master build system and integrate our currently build
 system in it. 

No, it wouldn't. You can use CMake for subprojects and call it from
build system with appropriate parameters. CMake can do in-tree build

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Re: [dev] New build system

2010-05-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

 Please read the wiki article, it seems you don't know which other 
 inherent faults I'm talking about. Recursive systems have *inherent* 
 disadvantages and overcoming them needs to switch to a non-recursive 
 system. This is not related to dependencies. CMake has a
 non-recursive element (the export to the backends), so everything
 that can be evaluated here (dependencies) can be done without the
 disadvantages of a recursive build system. But the build itself is
 recursive, so everything that happens at build time shows the usual
 disadvantages as described in the wiki.
...
 The goal is to have makefiles of sub units that can be combined with 
 each other so that they produce output in the same workdir. In our 
 GNUMake based approach all you have to do for that is include the 
 makefiles of the parts you want to combine, whereever they reside. In 
 CMake we couldn't find a way to achieve that without changing the
 CMake makefiles each time we wanted to combine them in a different
 way and this is unacceptable for us.

In CMake you can also include other cmake sources into CMakeLists.txt,
just as in GNU make

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Re: [dev] Help Download Source

2010-05-06 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
On Thu, 6 May 2010 13:25:15 -0300
Romildo Ferreira romildo...@gmail.com wrote: 

 Hi, my friends!
 I kown that this list is only to OpenOffice developer, but I would
 like to download the source code to undestand the implementation of
 goalSeek function.
 Unfortantly when I try this path in my TortoiseCVS:
 :pserver:anon...@anoncvs.services.openoffice.org:/cvs i get a fail
 message.
 Could some one help me?
 Thanks a lot,

You can find latest master sources here:
http://download.openoffice.org/next/other.html

3.2.0 here: http://download.openoffice.org/source/index.html

trunk here: http://hg.services.openoffice.org/

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[dev] How to add icon theme?

2010-05-03 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
How to install new modified icon theme into OpenOffice.org?

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Re: [dev] OOo's Toolbar Icons - Saving Space

2010-04-24 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
I also propose to remove star wars game from Calc to save space (or at least 
move it to separate package if there are lots of fans)

24.04.10, 21:31, Ivan M i2initiati...@gmail.com:

 Hello all,
  
  Recently I have explored one specific area where we could easily
  reduce the hard disk footprint of OpenOffice.org. The vast
  majority of reductions would be passed on to the size of the OOo
  installer, which makes this all the more attractive (less bandwidth
  costs, people download OOo quicker and they have a little more hard
  drive space for all their documents :P).
  
  The area in question is found in a bunch of zip files in OOo's
  /Basis/share/config folder. These are the toolbar icon sets that are
  bundled with OOo, and there are 6 of them (galaxy, high contrast,
  industrial, tango, crystal and classic). I have written a discussion
  about how OOo could be smarter with these icon sets and save space [1].
  
  In summary, what it comes down to is:
  
  1) Get rid of old icon sets. Industrial and Classic are two good candidates 
 IMO.
  
  2) Run PNGOUT [2] on all icon sets to reduce the size of each PNG file.
  Small reductions across many files add up substantially.
  
  3) Reduce the duplication of images in each icon set. The high contrast icons
  also appear to be duplicated in the Galaxy icon set - does anyone know why?
  
  4) Increase/decrease the compression of each icon set depending on the
  performance impact (i.e., we can reduce compression if it will make
  OOo load faster, or we can increase it if the extra memory use is
  inconsequential).
  
  #2 alone could save a few megabytes and would require no code
  modifications whatsoever. At the very, very least we should do this,
  and it could be done in time for OOo 3.3 (maybe even 3.2.1?)
  
  My discussion/proposal is based on what I have been able to gather by
  myself, so this may not actually be as simple as I believe. That's why
  a discussion can't just be between one person. I have had some positive
  responses to this on the UX and Branding list [3] and I'm hoping this email
  to the dev list will help make this proposal more concrete.
  
  I do have a couple of questions as well (I'm not sure who I should ask?):
  1) Why do the high contrast icons appear to be duplicated in the
  Galaxy set AND in the high contrast icon set?
  2) What happened to the icon sets between OOo 3.2 and 3.2.1? Their
  size decreased considerably - was this just the new ODF icons or is
  some kind of space saving effort underway?
  
  Regards,
  Ivan.
  
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 http://www.patentpending.co.nz/soapbox/index.php/reducing-the-footprint-of-openoffice-org-toolbar-icons/
  [2] http://advsys.net/ken/utils.htm
  [3] 
 http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/BrowseList?list=brandingby=threadfrom=2359419
  
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Re: Re: [dev] Transforming the Hyperlink bar in a websearch toolbar

2010-04-06 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

  What do we expect a user to enter into an OOo search bar? Help content?
  File names? In what folders? Document content? Web searches? UI commands
  in the menu? etc. etc.

AI to determine what user means :)

  
  So while a multi search tool would be a nice idea, we have to solve the
  possible ambiguities.
  
  Regards,
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

 personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked, what
 do you think about ?

I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to change font? 
or make birds' color slightly different from text

 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti 
  what do you think/suggest about this ?
 
  2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews) 
 
  Hi Andrea,
 
  You may want to join the Branding Initiative
   http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
 
  Greetings
  Stefan
 
 
  Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
 
  Hi Stefan,
  do we have an svg for the text logo.
 
  If not which fonts are used ?
 
  I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy
 
  Ciao,
  kiuma
 
  2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet 
 
   All,
 
  During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite large
  project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
  productivity suite market. Together with our product the OpenOffice.org
  brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of quality and
  it remains faithful to its origins.
 
  For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo and a
  symbol - have a look at
   http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
 
  Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it seems
  always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key components
  and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
  confidence.
 
  These elements will find their way into the next version of our product
  together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
  acquisition as announced earlier.
 
  The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
  enabling
  us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the continuation
  of
  this effort in this environment.
 
  Greetings
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Re: [dev] A Brand Refresh for OpenOffice.org (was Re: Changes to Site/Product Elements due to Oracle Acquisition)

2010-03-08 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
N 08.03.10, 18:00, Andrea Chiumenti kium...@gmail.com: 
 what about this one ?

Nice work! much better than it was before

 
 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti kium...@gmail.com
  For the font I used the one provided with original svg, (personally I'd 
  prefer it a bit more round). I'll try to make gulls more glossy
  
  2010/3/8 Konstantin Tokarev annu...@yandex.ru
  
   
 personally I think that the two gulls (my version) should be reworked, 
   what
 do you think about ?

I also think they should be reworked (IMHO). Maybe it's worth to change 
   font? or make birds' color slightly different from text
   
 2010/3/8 Andrea Chiumenti
 what do you think/suggest about this ?
 
  2010/3/8 Stefan Taxhet (sonews)
 
 Hi Andrea,
 
  You may want to join the Branding Initiative
   http://marketing.openoffice.org/brand
 
  Greetings
  Stefan
 
 
  Andrea Chiumenti wrote:
 
  Hi Stefan,
  do we have an svg for the text logo.
 
  If not which fonts are used ?
 
  I'd like to make the text logo a bit more sexy
 
  Ciao,
  kiuma
 
  2010/3/4 Stefan Taxhet
 
  All,
 
  During the last 10 years OpenOffice.org has evolved to a quite 
   large
  project in the FLOSS world and a successful product in the office
  productivity suite market. Together with our product the 
   OpenOffice.org
  brand spread over the world. This brand has a tradition of 
   quality and
  it remains faithful to its origins.
 
  For an impression of the first two rebrushed elements - the logo 
   and a
  symbol - have a look at
   http://www.openoffice.org/trademark/brandrefresh.html
 
  Instead of a complete new design we started a refresh. While it 
   seems
  always hard to adapt all input the changes point out the key 
   components
  and improves the overall impression to gain even more strength and
  confidence.
 
  These elements will find their way into the next version of our 
   product
  together with the changes that are necessary due to the Oracle
  acquisition as announced earlier.
 
  The just founded Branding Initiative will be the home for the work
  enabling
  us to use a consistent design. Your are welcome to join the 
   continuation
  of
  this effort in this environment.
 
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Re: [dev] OpenOffice Google soc

2010-02-26 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


26.02.10, 13:38, Ян Программист webautoma...@gmail.com:

 Hi people. I have some ideas about OpenOffice improvements and I wanted to
 know: how do those fit for Google summer of code this year? Do those appear
 in development priorities?
1. Smart zoom (additional controls would be shown rather font resize)
2. Gnash movie support for OpenOffice
3. Multimedia add-ons support for Adobe Reader targeted export
4. MathML formula editor with Ribbon interface + exporting a MS Word doc
with Word compatible formula editor format [MathML to OLE binary converter]

There is a new born project of math editor for OOo (GUI is in development). 
 http://fi-library.h16.ru

5. Document review services threw OpenOffice tools  email/NFS/Samba
share(s)
6. OpenOffice collaboration support with replication against project
management tool (Redmine with openoffice web preview plug-in?)
7. Provide a translation command in Writer menu:
   1. Using Lingvo web site
   2. Using offline dictionary (not multilingual!)

Why not to use external GoldenDict program instead of bloating OOo?

8. Note: translation results should appear in (a set of) dialog based
window(s) - to ensure that nested occurrences are separated
9. In-place translation of word in Impress without exiting presentation
mode:
   1. Word itself is targeted threw mouse cursor (or any external
   pointing device - perhaps slides are showed in wide screen) ( + hotkey?)
   2. Hands-free facility: voice recognition initiation
10. Organize Writer preferences for mode center customization, e.g.
educational/reading mode, document forming/preparation mode, etc.
11. IEEE standard driven document populating facility - smart editing
tools for forming technical documents under rules' pressure
12. Getting stated point is the same panel as File-Templates and
documents
   1. Document formation rules could be activated threw IEEE on-line
   services at back-end
   2. When document generated from template - activate facilities for
   interactive add-ins in case of PDF exporting:
   3. Unnecessary performance could be lost in case if user will not
   decide to export to PDF
13. Provide collaboration facilities with use of contacts of co-workers
and reading/conversation rights threw LDAP (OpenDS?)
14. Provide technical task forming tools to Writer
 Thanks. John

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Re: [dev] Text area in OOo Math

2010-02-12 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
 Hi Konstantin,
  Where to find code that displays text description of formula in OOo Math?
 What do you mean by 'text description'? Do you mean the text in the
 editing window?

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Re: [dev] Text area in OOo Math

2010-02-12 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

 I'm still not sure, what you exactly mean. If you talk about the code
 that displays say:
 1
 -  
 4
 this would be {1} over {4}. 
 You'll find more and more detailed descriptions here: 
 http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/userguide3/0200WG3-WriterGuide.pdf
 or
 http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/writer3/WG3_published

Yes, I'm talking about text area which displays {1} over {4}. I'm wondering 
where is source code that updates it's content (to be more concrete, what 
function does it). I'm sure this question is not for user's list :)
Maybe you can point me to some manual which describes that part of code?

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[dev] Text area in OOo Math

2010-02-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Where to find code that displays text description of formula in OOo Math?
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[dev] Syntax highlighting in OO Math

2010-02-10 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Doesn't anybody work on syntax highlighting in OO Math currently?
I'd like to try to use Colorer library (used, for example, in Midnight 
Commander) for this purpose. It's LGPL, so can be included in OOo without 
license problems
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Re: [dev] drop tcsh support?

2010-01-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
 Two questions remain:
 For one, the to-be-sourced scripts currently ensure that USE_SHELL's 
 path is in PATH, but I see no reason for that?
 For another, are there any relevant configurations where bash is not at 
 /bin/bash?  

Yes, in FreeBSD it's /usr/local/bin/bash (but there's /bin/sh if POSIX shell is 
enough)



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Re: [dev] OpenOffice Integration

2009-12-28 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Hi, Kirill

 OpenOffile under Linux can be started only if it was installed as a package.
 How it is possible to run OpenOffice using UNO without installing (merely
 copied OO to specified folder, for example)?  What about having several
 instances of Open Office at one time in the system? Thank you very much!

In case of deployment on Linux you can build a package with dependency on 
appropriate OOo package from distribution repositories. In this case user will 
not have two instances of OOo installed simultaneously
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Re: [dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-19 Thread Konstantin Tokarev


13.08.09, 04:20, Ariel Constenla-Haile ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com:

 Hello Konstantin,
 On Tuesday 11 August 2009, 08:06, Konstantin Tokarev wrote:
  Hello!
 
  I think every chemist which wants to use Linux faces with one serious
  problem: structural formulae cannot be inserted into the text in editable
  way. Also I think that only OpenOffice.org can provide this functionality
  today.
 
  In MS Windows there are many GUI based editors, which can be used to create
  and edit formulae incorporated into documents. In *nix-like systems there
  are no OLE-like interfaces. Only possibilities for user are to insert
  formula as image, SVG, or use OLE objects, incorporated in files which were
  created in Windows, Objects, created by external software and inserted into
  document cannot be edited after incorporation.
 
  On the other hand, there is an extension for OpenOffice.org called 'quick
  formule', which provides a language for textual description of chemical
  structural formulae. It constructs formula as OOo Draw object from text
  string. But created object cannot be edited as chemical structure. If a
  possibility to store this text string alongside with drawing, it could be
  used for further edit, and required functionality would be achieved.
 
  I see solution of this problem in creating new OOo application working the
  same way as OOo Math and based on its code. Using simple GUI (probably
  jchempaint), user will actually change text string with formula
  description, and when string changes, drawing object will be
  re-constructed. This complex document may be incorporated using OOo OLE
  implementation like OO Math objects are incorporated.
 
  My question for OOo developers: is it the simplest way to achieve such
  functionality? Or it is simpler to realize through OOo extension?
 I think that Jürgen gave you the best advice: develop your own embedded 
 object.
 I once developed a propotype following the SDK example, embedding JMol: 
 inside the document I stored the pdb file, and as replacement graphic one 
 generated by JMol from this pdb together with some JMol specific data in 
 order 
 to store Jmol's state. When the user activated the embedded object I opened 
 Jmol's frame, etc.
 The prototype worked fine (until  - I guess - the changes in OOo classpath 
 policy) but didn't have time to play with this again.
 But this shows the big potential of the embedded object API.
 You could do something similar with JChemPaint (and of course you're free to 
 take the Jmol idea and create two embedded object types, this may make OOo 
 very popular among scholars)
  I'm C++ developer, 
 well, both JMol and JChemPaint are Java applications, you could benefit of 
 the 
 Netbeans OOo API plug-in 
  but I've never worked with OpenOffice.org API. 
 the embedded API is rather undocumented (by documented I mean there is 
 nothing 
 AFAIK in the Developer's Guide), though you have the abstract API 
 specification, and the SDK example (it's helpful but hard to follow, I 
 remember 
 it took me a 2 weeks winter holiday to understand this stuff)
 Regards

Could you provide me with this code? I think this example can help me to learn 
OOo API

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Re: [dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-13 Thread Konstantin Tokarev

I'd like to thank everyone who pays attention to this problem. 
I've created project oochemistry on Sourceforge 
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/oochemistry). I there is anyone who wants to 
help me with implementation, you are welcome to join!

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Re: [dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-13 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Juergen Schmidt wrote:
 Ariel is right the documentation is currently very pure but
 d...@api.openoffice.org will be the best place to ask further questions
 and get support.
 
 We should maybe create a more complex example and should document it in
 the wiki in a tutorial style. Some volunteers?

If somebody helped me to realize embedded object I would help to describe it in 
tutorial. I think embedded chemical formula is a good example for API tutorial

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Re: [dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-13 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
12.08.09, 23:30, Eike Rathke e...@sun.com:

 Not sure if it would suit your needs, e.g. once exported to a graphics
 document a formula lost its structural information, but you might want
 to take a look at BKChem, http://bkchem.zirael.org/
 I could imagine an extension that used BKChem to feed it one of the
 formats it imports and let it render the graphics file. Just a quick
 idea..  There's also the OASA library on the same site that could
 provide the necessary functionality.
   Eike

I've tried to use BKchem, but it has some disadvantages.
BKchem can export to ODG, but this ODG can't be reimorted as formula. BKchem is 
written in Python (I don't know this language properly), also its sources are 
poorly commented. OASA library lacks support of ODG

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[dev] Using OpenOffice.org for Chemistry on Linux

2009-08-11 Thread Konstantin Tokarev
Hello!

I think every chemist which wants to use Linux faces with one serious problem: 
structural formulae cannot be inserted into the text in editable way. Also I 
think that only OpenOffice.org can provide this functionality today.

In MS Windows there are many GUI based editors, which can be used to create and 
edit formulae incorporated into documents. In *nix-like systems there are no 
OLE-like interfaces. Only possibilities for user are to insert formula as 
image, SVG, or use OLE objects, incorporated in files which were created in 
Windows, Objects, created by external software and inserted into document 
cannot be edited after incorporation.

On the other hand, there is an extension for OpenOffice.org called 'quick 
formule', which provides a language for textual description of chemical 
structural formulae. It constructs formula as OOo Draw object from text string. 
But created object cannot be edited as chemical structure. If a possibility to 
store this text string alongside with drawing, it could be used for further 
edit, and required functionality would be achieved.

I see solution of this problem in creating new OOo application working the same 
way as OOo Math and based on its code. Using simple GUI (probably jchempaint), 
user will actually change text string with formula description, and when string 
changes, drawing object will be re-constructed. This complex document may be 
incorporated using OOo OLE implementation like OO Math objects are incorporated.

My question for OOo developers: is it the simplest way to achieve such 
functionality? Or it is simpler to realize through OOo extension? I'm C++ 
developer, but I've never worked with OpenOffice.org API.
Is there anyone interested in chemistry or one who would like to help chemists 
running Linux? If yes, please reply. If not, just help me to choose direction

Thanks in advance,
Konstantin





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