Re: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-29 Thread Cor Nouws

Hubert Figuiere schreef:


On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 11:56 -0400, Allen Pulsifer wrote:

To all the OpenOffice users who might be interesting in trying out IBM
Lotus
Symphony (Beta):

   DO NOT INSTALL IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta) !!!



That was also feed back from the audience, during the IBM Presentation 
at OOoCon.
The IBM people took good notice of it. Seemed like they are gooing to 
change it.


Regards,


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Cor Nouws
Arnhem - Netherlands
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Re: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-29 Thread Hubert Figuiere

On Sat, 2007-09-29 at 08:54 +0200, Cor Nouws wrote:
 
 That was also feed back from the audience, during the IBM
 Presentation 
 at OOoCon.
 The IBM people took good notice of it. Seemed like they are gooing to 
 change it.

Because the community can't. Hint. Hint.


Hub

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Re: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-28 Thread Benjamin Huot
Its in the Symphony Program folder on your hard drive where the  
program is located at.


On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:34 AM, Allen Pulsifer wrote:


Well I tried it out on Windows too and I could install and
de-install it, using the Software option in the System
folder. However, some associations (I think ODT or ODS) did
not get restored correctly.


Hello Rony,

Kindly forgive my confusion.  What is the software option in the  
system
folder?  I looked in Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs and could  
not find
an entry for Symphony.  Then I tried rerunning the installer and it  
only
offered to install, as if it had never been installed.  It had no  
option for

repair or remove.

Allen

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RE: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-28 Thread Allen Pulsifer
 Well I tried it out on Windows too and I could install and 
 de-install it, using the Software option in the System 
 folder. However, some associations (I think ODT or ODS) did 
 not get restored correctly.

Hello Rony,

Kindly forgive my confusion.  What is the software option in the system
folder?  I looked in Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs and could not find
an entry for Symphony.  Then I tried rerunning the installer and it only
offered to install, as if it had never been installed.  It had no option for
repair or remove.

Allen

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Re: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-28 Thread Rony G. Flatscher

Allen Pulsifer wrote:
 To all the OpenOffice users who might be interesting in trying out IBM Lotus
 Symphony (Beta):

DO NOT INSTALL IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta) !!!

 I tried it out.  It took over all of my OpenDoc file associations, without
 warning, and installed itself into a handful of other file associations.  IT
 HAS NO UNINSTALLER, SO THESE CHANGES CANNOT BE EASILY REVERSED!

 Basically, it made a mess out of my registry.  Its taking me about an hour
 to fix it.

 WARNING: INSTALL IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta) AT YOUR OWN PERIL!
   
Well I tried it out on Windows too and I could install and de-install
it, using the Software option in the System folder. However, some
associations (I think ODT or ODS) did not get restored correctly.

Start-up times are abmysal in this beta drop, not sure whether IBM is
able to improve that.

---rony

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Re: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-28 Thread Benjamin Huot

go into the _uninst folder and launch uninstaller.bin

On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Allen Pulsifer wrote:


Its in the Symphony Program folder on your hard drive where the
program is located at.


I also looked for a Symphony folder under the Start menu (in case  
it had an
uninstaller) but Symphony does not install its Start items into a  
folder.


So I assume you mean I should have looked in

   C:\Program Files\IBM\Lotus\Symphony\ ?

What would I have been looking for, if I had not just spent the  
last hour

cleaning the registry by hand?

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Re: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-28 Thread Caio Tiago Oliveira

Allen Pulsifer, 28-09-2007 13:49:
Its in the Symphony Program folder on your hard drive where the  
program is located at.


I also looked for a Symphony folder under the Start menu (in case it had an
uninstaller) but Symphony does not install its Start items into a folder.

So I assume you mean I should have looked in

   C:\Program Files\IBM\Lotus\Symphony\ ?

What would I have been looking for, if I had not just spent the last hour
cleaning the registry by hand?


Even OOo won't restore the file associations to the older program...

the easier way to fix it is to repair the OOo setup or reinstall.



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RE: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-28 Thread Allen Pulsifer
 Even OOo won't restore the file associations to the older program...
 the easier way to fix it is to repair the OOo setup or reinstall.

Yes, I tried that.  OOo very politely respected the Symphony file
associations and did no repair.  The only way I got it to work was to delete
all traces of Symphony from the file associations.  If the file association
was Symphony-only or Symphony and OpenOffice, then I simply deleted it and
fixed it later with a reinstall of OOo.  For all other associations, I only
deleted the Symphony entry.  Hint for anyone suffering from the same
problem: I eventually figured they could be easily located by searching for
the partial string standalone_ (without quotes).  Better solution: don't
install Symphony until IBM gets its act together.  Its particularly
unforgivable IMO for beta software not to uninstall without a trace because
that's what its for: to install, try out, and then delete.

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Re: [dev] WARNING: Do Not Install IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta)

2007-09-28 Thread Hubert Figuiere

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 11:56 -0400, Allen Pulsifer wrote:
 To all the OpenOffice users who might be interesting in trying out IBM
 Lotus
 Symphony (Beta):
 
DO NOT INSTALL IBM Lotus Symphony (Beta) !!!

Here the TnstallShield crash and let a process running with a high CPU
load from /tmp

I'm not running Windows.

Hub

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