Hi Aryaman,
Always nice to see new contributors :-)
What do you have in mind regarding moderation queue? Do you mean
moderating edits, diary entries or something else?
Paweł
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015, at 22:27, Aryaman Gupta wrote:
Dear Developers,
I am a beginner and want to conribute for
(Launcher.java:47)
*Adityo Dwijananto S. Si*
**Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team**
Email*:*
**_adityo.dwijananto@hotosm.org_**
Phone:
+62812 8654 7434
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm wrote:
--read-xml-change produces changes so you need to use
--write-pgsql
--read-xml-change produces changes so you need to use
--write-pgsql-change not --write-pgsql to write them to the database.
Paweł
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015, at 09:01, Adityo Dwijananto wrote:
Hi All,
i'm trying to using osmosis to update my database with osm changeset. But
when i try to run
Playing devil's advocate for a minute, honestly I'm not sure I would be
as content with the current OSM data storage and processing
architecture. Main central server with a single multi-TB-sized database
somehow screams single point of failure to me... Add to that the growth
rate (which is pretty
Hi Stephen,
I read your document - it sounds like an interesting project! Even more
so that, as you can see, not much has been done in this area so far.
Pretty much every approach to OSM data storage/handling I've seen is
Postgres + some variation of a database schema optimized towards a
specific
In the Polish community there is a person who has access to a lot of GPS
tracks from trucks and he set up a great service:
http://masstracks.media-lab.com.pl/
It is very useful for Polish mappers.
Paweł
On 05/23/2013 02:48 PM, Jingmin Chen wrote:
Dear all,
I currently have access to 2
Andy,
And what I can tell you is that people in OSM (I mean admins here)
are very supportive and open to changes.
I'm glad to hear that! Many people say they have a different
experience, but we try to be helpful.
Well, I don't know about other people, but I got everything I needed
(and
On 05/21/2013 04:08 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
This is why the org needs a structural change, to give someone the
authority and resources to oversee projects like this.
Without this, the OWG is stuck ordering more hardware.
Reluctant +1 from me though I am sure this is not a popular view (we
of how to make massive changesets
browsable in rev chronological order on a map is unsolved. I must be
missing something, I don't think you have explained this anywhere.
I'd realy like to understand, where can I read up?
On Friday, May 3, 2013, Paweł Paprota wrote:
IMHO people really should
Sorry, I did not finish one of the sentences properly - about knn in
Postgres:
* PostgreSQL now supports k nearest neighbors indexing[1][2] - the
distance function/operator could be defined for OSM changesets so that a
query for given tile (or tile range) uses the knn index and at the same
time
Actually, my fork of the openstreetmap-website repository only contains
the UI part of the new history tab.
Heavy lifting (including creating and indexing geometry) is done by OWL
which is here:
https://github.com/ppawel/openstreetmap-watch-list
Paweł
On Fri, May 3, 2013, at 22:23, Eugene
IMHO people really should put their minds to fixing *the* problem of
Querying all changesets that actually modified data in an arbitrary
bounding box of the world and displaying them in reverse chronological
order is computationally expensive instead of coming up with yet
another half way
Good idea but I think you will find that this is much harder task to
tackle from technical perspective and most people would rather work on
random projects like live viewers, mappers nearby and endless stream of
other gadges based on the basic replication stream...
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013, at 19:28,
On 04/12/2013 10:01 PM, Matt Amos wrote:
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm wrote:
Please either fix it or take it down so I know what to do in my code.
apologies, should be working again now.
Thanks.
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Since April 1st it's not been updated:
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/replication/changesets/
Any plans to get it back up and running?
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Since April 1st it's not been updated:
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/replication/changesets/
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On 02/11/2013 01:55 AM, Stefan Keller wrote:
Ho Pawel
2013/2/10 Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm:
...
In OWL geometry is clipped to tile boundary using the standard
ST_Intersection operation. (...)
So, if an area (say this [ ]) is covered by two tiles it get's clipped:
Is it (1) shown
On 02/11/2013 07:53 PM, Кирилл Бестужев wrote:
Errors running test:functionals! #RuntimeError: Command failed with
status (1): [ruby -Ilib:test
-I/var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/rake-10.0.2/lib
/var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/rake-10.0.2/lib/rake/rake_test_loader.rb
test/functional/**/*_test.rb ]
Try running
Hi Stefan,
So you mean given a tile location like this
http://c.tile.openstreetmap.org/16/34372/22990.png
return a vector tile set of GeoJSON features?
Yes, that is the plan.
What makes me wondering is this: When entering
http://owl.osm.org/api/0.1/changesets/16/34372/22990.geojson
On 02/10/2013 12:13 PM, Stefan Keller wrote:
To Pavel:
Nice work. But I'm still not sure if OWL API is a solution to the question here:
The doc says Returns a list of changesets that affect given tile.
But what we are after here is a set of regular GeoJSON objects (point,
linestring, polygon).
Hi Ander,
Probably not exactly what you are looking for but at least it's OSM data
in GeoJSON format :-) - OwL API serves GeoJSON for changeset data:
http://owl.osm.org/api/0.1/changesets/15/18076/11129/18080/11131.geojson
In the future (whether near or far, hard to say) there should be
Great, thanks! Been waiting for that bugger this week!
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013, at 19:25, Matt Amos wrote:
now available from:
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet/full-history/
get it while it's hot :-) and please let me know if you find any errors
with it.
cheers,
matt
On 01/22/2013 10:53 AM, Paul Norman wrote:
On case where it's a clear winner is where*all* queries involve both a
spatial and tag component and there isn't a need for a separate gin index if
the composite index is used.
This sounds like a big win for WMS servers that use OpenStreetMap data.
Hi Jukka,
Thanks for the links, I will take a look.
I've done some performance testing and all three (ST_Buffer,
ST_SnapToGrid, ST_Distance minimax) solutions incur a significant
performance penalty with the massive amount of data that OWL needs to
process, i.e.:
Without this heuristic I get
Hi all,
Here's an interesting problem I'm trying to tackle now in OWL...
You have two linestrings and the task is to determine if they are
similar or not. Similar means spatially the same as looked at by
human eye at zoom level 18 on a slippy map :-)
Note that the two geometries are not
Hi Jochen,
On 01/04/2013 02:50 PM, Jochen Topf wrote:
You can create a buffer (with ST_Buffer) around one geometry and then see
whether the other geometry is inside this buffer or not. Unfortunately that
is a rather expensive operation, so it might be too slow for your use.
Yeah, Kompza on
Hi Andrzej
On 01/04/2013 03:37 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
If the number of nodes in a way didn't change you could optimize by just
comparing them coordinate by coordinate.
I was thinking you could take the maximum of every node's distance
from the other way. It should yield the same
On 01/04/2013 03:47 PM, David Prime wrote:
Construct a polygon from the two lines and calculate the area inside?
Have some magic number denoting an acceptable length/area ratio that
scales the limit appropriately. There's a few nasty edge cases, though.
Those linestrings can be polygons
On 01/04/2013 07:44 PM, Tom MacWright wrote:
How about rendering the lines at z16 in black with no antialiasing
and comparing the results? After that, you can cache the hash of the
image and compare it to additional lines. If you want to get really
fancy, you could even pack them into bits and
Hi all,
Just by accident during my work on OWL I encountered couple of
changesets done by the woodpeck_repair account that are reverting some
automated changes which removed deprecated tags. For example:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14236131
which reverts
On 01/02/2013 02:44 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 01/02/2013 02:31 PM, Paweł Paprota wrote:
For me such reverts just introduce unneeded clutter in the history
database - thousands of new versions in the history.
Yes, that's sad, and I'd surely prefer not having to do such reverts
Hi,
You make some good points but I still can't help but think that there
has to be a more efficient way of preventing such things. It seems to me
that changing and then reverting stuff back in this manner is a
lose-lose situation for everyone.
I see two problems here - one is the inability to
Hi Grant,
On a not-so-unrelated note - when is the next full history dump planned?
Paweł
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Hi Toby,
On 12/14/2012 03:40 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
Sure but in this case I would suggest naming this option
differently because setting keepInvalidWays to false implies that
there will be no invalid ways in the database which may not be true
with the current implementation of this option.
On 12/13/2012 03:48 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
SELECT ST_IsValid('LINESTRING(1 1, 1 1, 1 1, 1 1, 1 1)'::geometry)
This was touched on in the previous thread a little. The problem is
that there is no direct interaction with the database at this level.
When doing an import, no connection to the
On 12/13/2012 11:11 AM, Brett Henderson wrote:
Excellent. I hope it didn't hurt too much :-)
To the contrary - now I know that instead of Ant I will be using Gradle
where Maven doesn't fit :-)
Paweł
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Hi Andy,
openstreetmap-carto is a project to re-implement the standard
OpenStreetMap mapnik style, in CartoCSS[1]. At the OpenStreetMap Hack
Weekend in London last Sunday I released v1.0 of project, and went to
the pub before telling anyone!
This is an amazing effort. For a couple of weeks
Looks good. I only wish that other topics would get as much attention,
meetings and talk (and also - code :-) as iD. Unfortunately digging
through database schemas, parsing billions of entities and fighting for
production-quality scalability does not seem as sexy as CSS3 transforms
:-P :-)
In any
Hi,
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London_Hack_Weekend_Dec_2012
Sounds cool. I won't be able to travel to London but I should be
available on IRC to collaborate on some OWL- or activity stream-related
things (I've seen this topic on your hack list).
Paweł
Hi Andy,
This looks like a great initiative!
I don't know much about styling but if there's any way I can help with
more technical/coding stuff, let me know!
Paweł
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On 11/15/2012 09:46 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Whether or not we use git or svn for the Mapnik stylesheet is a question,
but not one which I think will have much bearing on the willingness of
people with cartography nous to contribute. More important are:
- moving from something that
On 11/14/2012 12:04 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Point 1 is purely a matter of taste; people are just doing it with
trac as well (and suffering from 2/3 there too).
Surely you cannot deny the fact that Github has extremely positive
effects on development?
Why Trac has nowhere near such an
On 11/14/2012 01:09 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I fully agree that GitHub is popular, but it is a pet peeve of mine
to point out that alternatives exist, just like other people will
complain if an Open Source project runs its mailing list on Google or
so. With GitHub in the hands of a commercial
On 11/14/2012 01:10 PM, Simon Legner wrote:
Hi all,
On 14/11/12 12:57, Paweł Paprota wrote:
Surely you cannot deny the fact that Github has extremely positive
effects on development?
I don't see the point in discussing SVN/Trac vs. Git/GitHub as both
systems are already in place
On 11/14/2012 05:34 PM, Michal Migurski wrote:
Why Trac has nowhere near such an effect I couldn't say but it is
just the truth that once you put something on Github, people are
*much* more likely to contribute.
[citation needed]
My statement was based on my own experience with open source
On 11/13/2012 03:48 PM, Simon Legner wrote:
Hi all,
I'd like to find out what the current status of the Mapnik stylesheets
for www.osm.org is. The most recent changes are from June 2012 [1], and
the number of open tickets in TRAC is 400 [2].
Indeed... I looked at the same thing 2-3 weeks ago
On 11/13/2012 09:46 PM, Lennard wrote:
On 13-11-2012 15:58, Paweł Paprota wrote:
I'd say the priority should be bringing the main style onto the
pretty side...
If you take a look at the amount of open tickets, pretty clashes
heavily with I want $feature rendered, where $feature ranges from
On 11/13/2012 11:13 PM, Derick Rethans wrote:
I would rather see as much useful things rendered that make sense for
*mappers*. Pretty tiles should also be made, but as far as I know, the
default style that is on openstreetmap.org is for *us* - the people who
add data.
Well, that's the usual
On 11/13/2012 11:32 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
I share Derick's view, but maybe what we need is someone to just do it and
split the problem in two maps.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors_functionalities_wishlist#Backgound_map_with_the_most_possible_objects
Sure,
On 11/09/2012 06:57 AM, Paul Norman wrote:
You should be able to create a linestring where the first and last point
are the same. This would be better than a phantom node.
No, because this is not a valid geometry (in ST_IsValid terms).
Paweł
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Hi all,
On Friday I have implemented a simple validation in the OWL plugin that
checks whether given entity action (create/modify/delete) can be applied
to the current database state. See implementation: [1].
By invalid action I mean a situation when there is a delete action
in the pipeline
Hi Stephan,
Do you have --simplify-change or --sort-change in your pipeline? I
have not fully thought about it, but it might introduce funny effects
if you rely on a special order of actions.
No. The exact pipeline is:
osmosis -v --rri --lpc --write-owldb-change authFile=~/authFile
Hi Chris,
I can confirm this strange behavior on my Android phone. I have not
tried other OpenLayers sites so I can't say whether this is
osm.org-specific.
In any case, there is currently work going on porting osm.org site to
Leaflet. See here:
http://leaflet.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/
On 11/07/2012 05:53 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
Is there any plan to provide something like augmented changeset diff ?
(ie : diffs with the content of the changeset in osmchange format when closed
in addition to the changeset itself )
At the last OWL hack weekend there was an idea to
Hi all,
As I mentioned yesterday, I've been preparing a tool that would allow to
analyze changes in OSM data. This work is based on OWL although it
includes major alterations to the original code so it is not certain
that it should be called OWL anymore (Matt's opinion pending)...
Anyway,
Hi,
Just as a heads-up - for the past week or so I've been doing some OWL
resurrecting myself and I hope to launch a demo instance in a day or two.
Current status:
* I tried to work with the C++ part of OWL, failed.
* I rewrote the database operations part as an Osmosis plugin[1]. As a
Couple of additional things:
* I'm not sure what to do with the duplicate nodes plugin - is/was it
actively used in OWL? Does it belong in core OWL? Should be discussed I
think.
* I pushed what I had locally, so the resurrection is now happening in
the open :-)
Hi all,
I want to implement a new plugin for Osmosis which would allow
populating a specific schema. I described the idea briefly on the dev@
list last week[1].
I see this as an extension to the pgsnapshot schema so I would largely
reuse the existing code. Major addition to the pgsnapshot
On 10/19/2012 04:02 AM, Alex Barth wrote:
On Oct 8, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm
wrote:
On today's EWG meeting we briefly discussed the OWL-powered
activity/history tab Top Ten Task.
I want to loop back to the history tab on openstreetmap.org and the
ability to only
On 10/19/2012 03:06 PM, Roland Olbricht wrote:
If you are C++ averse, the good news is that you may resolve the real
bottleneck independent of the programming language.
I'm OK with C++ when it is justified. I personally am more productive in
Java/Ruby/Python than C++.
I've written down
On 10/19/2012 05:00 PM, Alex Barth wrote:
On Oct 19, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm
wrote:
I just simply don't have server resources to work with anything
larger than a Europe dump which already is crawling on the hardware
I've got available.
Did you try to get a dev
Hi Matt/Ian,
I'd like to continue this thread as since yesterday I have been looking
into OWL code (specifically the C++ and the database parts) and I have
some thoughts.
One major difference in our approach is how we process OSC files.
Correct me if I'm wrong but OWL goes through an OSC
On 10/18/2012 05:04 AM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
I do, but as you said, alone isn't gone be an easy task, that's why I'll soon
be proposing this on talk, with the hope to get the help of everyone. I have
just no ideas if something usefull could get out of this, if that won't just
turn to
On 10/17/2012 07:43 AM, Paweł Paprota wrote:
I agree. I will add changeset comments to changeset descriptions on the
demo instance and let's see how this turns out.
I said that but then I remembered that changeset metadata is not
available in the replication feed - only through public API
On 10/17/2012 03:30 PM, Andy Allan wrote:
Basically, I see no need to worry about the extent of bounding boxes,
and no need to move to having bboxes on uploads instead of changesets
or other complications. No matter what we do, if your interest in a
changeset extends beyond the details of its
On 10/17/2012 06:20 PM, Alex Barth wrote:
It seems that OWL and Activity Streams have the exact same problem here...
I have been talking with Matt today on IRC and to me it looks like we
have been asking ourselves the same questions and overall I think that
replacing a big chunk of the
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 11:09, Frederik Ramm wrote:
- How could the Mapnik style be more open to improvements? We
definitely need to get it on GitHub.
I don't think the version control system used makes a difference - I
doubt the 400+ issues filed against the current style would be
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012, at 01:03, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote:
If you propose to change it by creating a community-driven
(instead of admin-driven as you put it) wishlist, by any means - do
it. The operative word being do.
I'll be glad to do so, and will start it. Unless the MapBox team
On 10/17/2012 01:04 AM, Alex Barth wrote:
I really like how activity streams shows easy-to-understand changes
on the map using changemonger [1,2]. At the same time it creates an
alternative break down of changes that is more granular than
changesets.
This diverts attention from _comments on
/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks/Progress/Support_for_multiple_languages_on_help.osm.org#Update_.28October_2012.29
Paweł
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 12:41, Paweł Paprota wrote:
Hi all,
During the EWG meeting last week I volunteered to research migration
feasibility for the help.osm.org platform migration due
top ten tasks is These are the Top Ten Tasks that the OSM System
Administrators
What about the community ? This only is a todo list by the admins, for
the
admins coded by the admins. So far so good, but that's not a wishlist,
or, at
least, not a wishlist of the community.
Hi all,
During the EWG meeting last week I volunteered to research migration
feasibility for the help.osm.org platform migration due to i18n problems
with current software (OSQA).
I have started putting together some content on the wiki (see [1]), if
you want to get involved, either by
Okay, so visual changeset tools, better history tools, and osmbugs.
OSMBugs or something like it will definitely get some love - early on
we've
just been battling confusion about wtf OSMBugs is, with all of the
versions. That's mostly cleared up now.
Anything else?
Have you read my
better osm.org usability and social-ability). And also it's great that
there are people who care about data, routing, search and all the
different stuff that makes this project whole.
Stepping back, the story of OSM *is* that things happen in other tools,
so I'm in agreement with Paweł Paprota
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012, at 23:28, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 12.10.2012 23:13, Paweł Paprota wrote:
* Social OSM: feh, don't care.
My take on social OSM is a combination of these views - feh because I
myself am really not interested in your friend Peter mapped a post box
yesterday
Hi Tom,
So, along with the big 'kicking off' blog post on MapBox[1], I posted
three
basic issues in the openstreetmap-website tracker - JSON support,
filtering
on the main api, and a tag api.
I think these are important, but there are far more important things.
And also, these issues seem
Hi Ian,
Thanks for the response. What you wrote about partitioning the data etc.
is exactly what concerns me with the Changeset Activity Publisher
implementation - it will get too big with time.
On the other hand, for social purposes I guess there is no need to
hold on to every single change
Hi again,
Just a small update... Tobias' message from the talk@ list made me
rethink some stuff about the activity server. I also came up with
another potential feature - activity stream for given location/bounding
box.
I think that all this affects how activities are stored in the server.
While
Hi all,
Back in August I made some noise on IRC and mailing lists about the
activity stream stuff. We had some discussions about technical approach
which were very useful to me. Since then I got side tracked with other
work, both OSM related and otherwise.
However, this weekend I've started
Sandor,
This is a very interesting topic for me. I have done some work in
exactly this area with similar goals in mind. See for example:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMonitor/Poland_Regional_Roads
This report helped a lot with remapping after redaction bot was finished
and left many
Hi,
It is trivial to do in PostGIS (ST_LineMerge) or anything that can deal
with standard (OGC) geospatial types, e.g. RGeo in Ruby.
However from my experience I can tell you that working with route
relation geometries is very tricky because of how they are mapped. At
least for road and bicycle
Hi Roland,
Overpass API now offers Augmented Minute Diffs. The idea goes back to a
talk
of Matt Amos at SOTM 2010. These diffs allow e.g. to keep a
geographically
limited database extract up to date.
This looks really good and may be useful for a project that I'm working
on.
Quick
Hi Serge,
We've been e-mailing about this project in private in the context of the
activity stream stuff that's slowly being developed for osm.org - I
think it would be perfect to have these descriptions in the stream,
certainly better than user X entered changeset XYZ or anything else I
can come
Hi Steve,
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012, at 10:34, Steve Coast wrote:
There have been multiple attempts to make this happen.
Basically you have to get Tom on board with your plans and few have
managed that.
Good to know ;-) I have got sidetracked with work on some data reporting
due to help our
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 11:07, David Earl wrote:
Yes, it was just an idea. Without buy in for this or something similar,
it won't make progress. It would be easy to implement at the server
side. I had intended to do a prototype, but I ended up with a large
contract to do something
Hi Eugene,
(...)
So using Wikipedia as an example, OSM actually already embodies the
wikiness of Wikipedia.
I agree and obviously it works well. However, what I meant with
citation needed for example is not only at the syntax level (FIXME tag
as you mention) but first and foremost at the
Hi Stefan,
I rather fancy a theme based transaction. The theme defines what
objects should be rendered to work on the specific theme.
This prevents the accidental alteration of stuff that is unrelated,
and gives a better focus on the task.
Sounds good. I am actually not sure what would
Hi all,
Just a quick (meaning: probably crazy) thought I had...
Do you think it would make sense to develop this project as a
replacement for the map viewer at osm.org front page? It sounds like
some features from the editor would give some viewer for free [1].
Also reusing one code base for
Hi all,
Today I have encountered a lot of bad data in my area - duplicated
nodes/ways. These probably stem from an inexperienced user or faulty
editor software when drawing building. I corrected a lot of this stuff,
see changesets:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12208202
is the current status, who to talk to etc. So please
excuse any oversimplifications and maybe some over eagerness on my side
- but I want to help with some, for now I just don't know where to start
:-)
Paweł
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012, at 20:11, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 13.07.2012 19:27, Paweł
can see these are pretty high level things that go against status
quo - that's why I want to make sure my time is well spent...
Paweł
regards
Peter
Am 13.07.2012 19:27, schrieb Paweł Paprota:
Hi all,
Today I have encountered a lot of bad data in my area - duplicated
nodes/ways
Hi Peter,
Thanks for taking the time to respond. There was a discussion on
#osm-dev around the whole validation thing, good points were made on
behalf of the free tagging and no validation approach.
My proposal would be some middle ground between current state where
anything goes and hard
Hi Roland,
You make some good points and also thanks for the link to the API ideas.
I would not make much sense. There are a lot of ideas what could be done
on
the API, please see
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.7
This section is interesting:
Hi Richard,
Great idea.
I have a quick thought performance/usability-wise - when there is a lot
of objects to render (like buildings in a large city), Potlach and JOSM
really struggle. I guess it's not a big problem since those editors are
for more patient users - geeks :-)
I wonder if for such
on the design side of things...) maybe we can do
something.
Paweł
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012, at 11:26, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 07/04/12 11:19, Paweł Paprota wrote:
I think a lot of things can be improved in terms of the OSM project
front page usability to bring it more on par with similar offerings
osm.org more usable or more web 2.0 I should say
:-)
Paweł
On Wed, Jul 4, 2012, at 10:45, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 04/07/12 10:19, Paweł Paprota wrote:
I think a lot of things can be improved in terms of the OSM project
front page usability to bring it more on par with similar offerings
/7/4 Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm:
Thanks for the response. By on par with Google/Bing Maps I meant more
polished, usable.
Actually we are already better than Bing ;-) even if we don't wan't to
compete with them, and even in a field that was for a long time one of
the most criticized
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