Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:20 AM, m*sh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lauri Hahne wrote: >> [...] >> >> 1. Ways >> >> - There are one kind of ways in the database. Ways can have attributes >> (tags) but aren't required. >> - The tagging scheme suggest

Re: [OSM-dev] md5sums

2008-07-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 09:59 +0100, Andy Allan wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Would it be possible to add md5sums alongside the files on >> planet.openstreetmap.org? Especially for the planet files where having >> osm2pgsql bail a few

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Dave Stubbs wrote: >Sent: 04 July 2008 9:14 AM >To: m*sh >Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: >OpenStreetMap > >On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:20 AM, m*sh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Lauri Hahne

Re: [OSM-dev] md5sums

2008-07-04 Thread Chris Jones
Dave Stubbs wrote: > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I got the impression that sha1sum is now preferred over md5sum, do we >> want to use that instead? >> > Only if you're aiming for security. If you're just trying to figure > out whether the file

[OSM-dev] Osmosis diffs: "delete" shows the wrong user?

2008-07-04 Thread Hakan Tandogan
Hi, I'm watching the areas I'm interested in by downloading daily excerpts from osmxapi and building a diff via osmosis. For the delete actions, the diffs show the wrong user. In one example node, the user "djanda" deleted a node, but the diffs show the last user that manipulated node, in this c

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread hy
> But kudos to you, most people try to normalise the data model onto > relations, but normalising to nodes is thinking outside the box. I didn't say that we do not need relations. > Of > course it's basically a tag version of segments which were ditched due > to the extra processing requirements

Re: [josm-dev] Translation into german

2008-07-04 Thread Till Amma
>> "Freizeiteinrichtungen" > > To me, that translates back to English as "Leisure Amenities", making > it overspecific. Think of courthouses, fire stations, fuel stations, > none of which are strictly related to leisure. > > Dermot True! What about "Öffentliche Einrichtungen"? :) ___

Re: [OSM-dev] Osmosis diffs: "delete" shows the wrong user?

2008-07-04 Thread Brett Henderson
Hakan Tandogan wrote: > Hi, > > > I'm watching the areas I'm interested in by downloading daily excerpts > from osmxapi and building a diff via osmosis. > > For the delete actions, the diffs show the wrong user. In one example > node, the user "djanda" deleted a node, but the diffs show the last us

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread m*sh
Am Fr, 4.07.2008, 12:39, schrieb Erik Johansson: > This has come up before, in different ways each time. I know started > thinking that any editor would first let you choose the type, and then > let you draw it, like in Google Map Maker. But since we had the > segments untagged in the beginning I

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
m*sh wrote: >Sent: 04 July 2008 3:05 PM >To: dev@openstreetmap.org >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: >OpenStreetMap > > >Am Fr, 4.07.2008, 12:39, schrieb Erik Johansson: >> This has come up before, in different ways each time. I know started >> thinking that any editor

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 4 de Julio de 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) escribió: > m*sh wrote: > >Why should there be any order at all? [...] > > If its not ordered logically, how would you route over it? Easy: http://xkcd.com/407/ Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega <

Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap

2008-07-04 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:05 PM, m*sh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Fr, 4.07.2008, 12:39, schrieb Erik Johansson: >> This has come up before, in different ways each time. I know started >> thinking that any editor would first let you choose the type, and then >> let you draw it, like in Google M

[OSM-dev] New Osmosis Release (v0.29)

2008-07-04 Thread Brett Henderson
Hi All, I've just released osmosis 0.29. It has some new features which might interest people: * Plugin support. It is now possible to register a plugin which allows new tasks to be used within osmosis without requiring a full osmosis recompile. * Lazy string parsing. For processing xml files

[OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap]

2008-07-04 Thread m*sh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Stubbs wrote: > Yeah, there's no really good reason why you need to edit in that > order, other than it's easier to program, and probably more how most > people think. No it's not. > Our dynamic ontology, and largely tag ambivalent editors are w

Re: [OSM-dev] When mental models go wrong: OpenStreetMap]]

2008-07-04 Thread m*sh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave Stubbs wrote: > Yeah, there's no really good reason why you need to edit in that > order, other than it's easier to program, and probably more how most > people think. No it's not. > Our dynamic ontology, and largely tag ambivalent editors are w

[OSM-dev] New mapping Application for mobile devices: Help wanted

2008-07-04 Thread Mickey Leroy
Hello, I've written a program called Open CityMap. It is programmed in Qt for Qtopia compatible devices. (unfortunately this wasn't accepted as GSOC application) Some of the features: * GPLv2 license. * Can display OSM data (XML) * Can display OSM tiles (thanks to QMapControl) * C

Re: [OSM-dev] New mapping Application for mobile devices: Help wanted

2008-07-04 Thread Chris Browet
Very interesting. I'm one if the contributor to Merkaartor, which is QT based also. Furthermore, we are using QMapcontrol for tiles , too. As I always wanted to develop a PDA based application, I'm pretty sure we'll find synergies, here. My target is clearly WinCE, but QT working on CE, now, this