Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On 27 Sep 2009, at 21:45, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:14:31 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: is a bit expensive to compute, and the bounding box offered by the API is just meant to be a quick index that gives you an idea of which changesets could be relevant to the bbox you are looking at. I thought about one more thing, ok, so to check if somebody is editing in my area it is expensive to check... so I had one other idea. Could you somehow add the size of the bounding box in RSS feed? And also that I can choose only to see edits of certain size when looking at OSM.org site. The size of the bbox is already part of the Atom feeds via the GeoRSS extension. It'll look like this: georss:box48.003869 7.8216504 48.0079714 7.8301403/georss:box From that you can calculate the big on your own client (e.g. Yahoo pipes): http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/sites/rails_port/app/models/changeset.rb#L93 http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/sites/rails_port/app/views/changeset/_changeset.html.erb#L48 Shaun ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
Hi, there have been some talk about hiding big edits in changeset history, is there a plan to implement this feature soon? Thank you very much for your excellent work. Cheers from Croatia, Valent. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there have been some talk about hiding big edits in changeset history, is there a plan to implement this feature soon? Thank you very much for your excellent work. Cheers from Croatia, Valent. I don't think it is a good idea. If you do so, we will not see anymore some potential issues like bots (see another thread) or vandalism. Pieren ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On 27 Sep 2009, at 17:49, Pieren wrote: On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, there have been some talk about hiding big edits in changeset history, is there a plan to implement this feature soon? Thank you very much for your excellent work. Cheers from Croatia, Valent. I don't think it is a good idea. If you do so, we will not see anymore some potential issues like bots (see another thread) or vandalism. At some point, when there is time, it may be implemented as a toggle, i.e. you can hide the big routes as an option. Shaun ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On 27/09/09 17:37, Valent Turkovic wrote: there have been some talk about hiding big edits in changeset history, is there a plan to implement this feature soon? People have suggested it but I'm not really sure about it - the problem is that it isn't really big changesets you want to hide, it is changesets which don't really change the area you're looking at. The trouble is it is hard/expensive to work out whether a changeset changes a given area or not. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:49:26 +0200, Pieren wrote: I don't think it is a good idea. If you do so, we will not see anymore some potential issues like bots (see another thread) or vandalism. The area size is irrelevant and should be completely ignored. What I would like to know if anybody edited any node or way in area I'm watching, no matter how big the edited area is. Currently I see edits in my city area [1] even if somebody adds a weather station in Antartica and his area is whole world. This is implemented completely wrong. I shouldn't see anything that is not edited in area I'm watching, no matter what is the size of area of other persons that edit. And other issue is that RSS feed [2] has no Area (big) string. If it had I could as a temporary hack use Yahoo pipes to exclude big areas, but there are also some valid big areas that actually have edited points in area that I'm watching so that is not the real solution. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=18.5866%2C45.5177%2C18.7716% 2C45.5863 [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/history/feed?bbox=18.5866%2C45.5177% 2C18.7716%2C45.5863 -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
Hi, Valent Turkovic wrote: What I would like to know if anybody edited any node or way in area I'm watching, no matter how big the edited area is. Yes. This would be a good service for an *external* service to offer. It is a bit expensive to compute, and the bounding box offered by the API is just meant to be a quick index that gives you an idea of which changesets could be relevant to the bbox you are looking at. Anyone who is interested could analyse the change feeds coming from the API and tell you exactly which changesets affect any area of interest, and could also handle e-mail notifications etc. - this is not something that needs to, or indeed should, be in the central database. Bye Frederik ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:14:31 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Yes. This would be a good service for an *external* service to offer. It Why only for external service? I believe that this is crucial for monitoring because of vandalism and for watching newbies that usually make lots of mistakes. Is it possible at least add area (big) in RSS feeds of changesets so it is filterable via external services (yahoo pipes)? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On 27 Sep 2009, at 20:10, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:14:31 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Yes. This would be a good service for an *external* service to offer. It Why only for external service? I believe that this is crucial for monitoring because of vandalism and for watching newbies that usually make lots of mistakes. Have you tried the ITOWorld OSMapper service? Shaun ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
2009/9/27 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:14:31 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: Yes. This would be a good service for an *external* service to offer. It Why only for external service? I believe that this is crucial for monitoring because of vandalism and for watching newbies that usually make lots of mistakes. Is it possible at least add area (big) in RSS feeds of changesets so it is filterable via external services (yahoo pipes)? do you know ito? It is a proprietary service but subscribing is free and it offers this feature you are requesting (see all changes in a certain area). cheers, Martin ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:14:31 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: is a bit expensive to compute, and the bounding box offered by the API is just meant to be a quick index that gives you an idea of which changesets could be relevant to the bbox you are looking at. I thought about one more thing, ok, so to check if somebody is editing in my area it is expensive to check... so I had one other idea. Could you somehow add the size of the bounding box in RSS feed? And also that I can choose only to see edits of certain size when looking at OSM.org site. I would like to see on OSM.org changeset page info how big bounding box is, and not only Area (big) if it is bigger that some arbitrary size. Could there be some rough categories, like; under 100km2, under 500km2, under 1000km2, under 5000km2, under 1km2, etc... And that this value is also visible in RSS freed so I can filter it via yahoo pipes. That this suggestion makes sense or am I talking rubbish? -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:39:35 +0100, Shaun McDonald wrote: Have you tried the ITOWorld OSMapper service? Yes I have, the issue is that OSMapper has a delay of on week ;( If that would be live data than it would be great! As you can see here: http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/feed? area=1291:1show=sessionstoken=35c4bfb22021f7d459c5c6f2aea021cduser=1291 -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Changeset history - hide 'big' edits?
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:14:31 +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: is a bit expensive to compute, and the bounding box offered by the API is just meant to be a quick index that gives you an idea of which changesets could be relevant to the bbox you are looking at. I thought about one more thing, ok, so to check if somebody is editing in my area it is expensive to check... so I had one other idea. Could you somehow add the size of the bounding box in RSS feed? And also that I can choose only to see edits of certain size when looking at OSM.org site. The size of the bbox is already part of the Atom feeds via the GeoRSS extension. It'll look like this: georss:box48.003869 7.8216504 48.0079714 7.8301403/georss:box ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
